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Title: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 05, 2010, 01:18:42 PM
Your tax dollars at work.  

Title: Re: NYC spend $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Kazan on January 05, 2010, 01:20:08 PM
The fucking stupidity of government on all levels never ceases to amaze me.
Title: Re: NYC spend $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 05, 2010, 01:21:21 PM
Welcome to the era of Hope & Change we all are supposed to believe in. 

Title: Re: NYC spend $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Kazan on January 05, 2010, 01:24:23 PM
Welcome to the era of Hope & Change we all are supposed to believe in. 



I HOPE the next 3 years go by quickly with minimal damage, and their is a CHANGE in make up of the government
Title: Re: NYC spend $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 05, 2010, 01:25:08 PM
Welcome to the era of Hope & Change we all are supposed to believe in. 



Title: Re: NYC spend $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Kazan on January 05, 2010, 01:27:27 PM


This is exactly what is wrong with this country, we have a bunch of fucking enablers running things.

What should I give a fuck if some junkie knows the right way to shoot up, fuck them! These assclowns made the choice to use that shit, it is not a disease and I do not feel sorry for them.
Title: Re: NYC spend $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 05, 2010, 01:29:18 PM
This is liberalism on display in full bloom. 

Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: kcballer on January 05, 2010, 01:38:50 PM
If it saves health care money in the long run i'm all for it.

Fiscal responsibility remember? 
Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Kazan on January 05, 2010, 01:43:41 PM
If it saves health care money in the long run i'm all for it.

Fiscal responsibility remember?  


Huh? They are shooting up with Heroin or maybe you missed that part ::)

Maybe they can come up with a whole bunch of these "How to Snort Cocain", " The correct way to smoke crack", or my all time favorite " Free Basing, try it you might like it"
Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 05, 2010, 01:46:18 PM
If it saves health care money in the long run i'm all for it.

Fiscal responsibility remember? 

Unreal.  Than how about advising gay men not to have sex? 

That would save a lot of money too.  Are you for that? 
Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Fury on January 05, 2010, 01:48:43 PM
Or are they saving money by teaching these morons how to use it properly? I.e. police visits, hospital visits, etc, etc.
Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 05, 2010, 01:50:18 PM
Or are they saving money by teaching these morons how to use it properly? I.e. police visits, hospital visits, etc, etc.

Do you really think that junkies are going to pay attention when they are in their craze for heroin are going to say :

"Wait, the booklet told me not to share this needle, I think I'll pass"  ? ? 
Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Kazan on January 05, 2010, 01:50:59 PM
Or are they saving money by teaching these morons how to use it properly? I.e. police visits, hospital visits, etc, etc.

First of all I would have to care about these morons, I see no reason to waste our resources on the dregs of humanity.
Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Fury on January 05, 2010, 01:52:14 PM
I'm not saying I agree with it but I remember the Dutch doing something along the same lines a few years ago to combat their drug problem.
Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Kazan on January 05, 2010, 02:11:49 PM
I'm not saying I agree with it but I remember the Dutch doing something along the same lines a few years ago to combat their drug problem.

How does enabling the addict combat a drug problem?
Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: kcballer on January 05, 2010, 02:15:03 PM
Unreal.  Than how about advising gay men not to have sex? 

That would save a lot of money too.  Are you for that? 

I thought you were all for personal freedom? This is an example of allowing people to have freedom and advising them on how to stay safe exercising that.  In the long run it'll save money and i thought you were all for that too? 

Are you always against what you are for? Or is it only when 'liberals' do something that you are against it?
Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 05, 2010, 02:22:45 PM
I thought you were all for personal freedom? This is an example of allowing people to have freedom and advising them on how to stay safe exercising that.  In the long run it'll save money and i thought you were all for that too? 

Are you always against what you are for? Or is it only when 'liberals' do something that you are against it?

I was being facetious. 
Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Fury on January 05, 2010, 02:29:30 PM
How does enabling the addict combat a drug problem?

Helps to combat some of the health problems that result from misuse of drugs. Helps to prevent the spread of HIV, accidental overdoses and the like.
Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 05, 2010, 02:31:49 PM
Helps to combat some of the health problems that result from misuse of drugs. Helps to prevent the spread of HIV, accidental overdoses and the like.

How about the govt teaching drunks what to drink so as to be able to drive home from the bar?   

Title: Re: NYC spend $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: SAMSON123 on January 05, 2010, 02:33:16 PM
This is exactly what is wrong with this country, we have a bunch of fucking enablers running things.

What should I give a fuck if some junkie knows the right way to shoot up, fuck them! These assclowns made the choice to use that shit, it is not a disease and I do not feel sorry for them.

I said what I am about to say in a thread some time ago. The american government is about to unleash a massive amount of drugs into america at ridiculously cheap prices. They have long ago introduced CRACK, and CRYSTAL METH, ICE, CRUNK and soon HEROIN will be EVERYWHERE!!! It is another weapon they will use to pacify and take the fight out of the masses. Marijuana will be legal, coke will be legal, crack, meth etc will be available to everyone. So these programs you see in New York and I am sure are in every other big city are really getting people prepared for that time. They will give out syringes, show people how to shooot up, tell people about dosages and turn american society into a country of JUNKIES.... Get Ready!!!
Title: Re: NYC spend $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 05, 2010, 02:35:21 PM
I said what I am about to say in a thread some time ago. The american government is about to unleash a massive amount of drugs into america at ridiculously cheap prices. They have long ago introduced CRACK, and CRYSTAL METH, ICE, CRUNK and soon HEROIN will be EVERYWHERE!!! It is another weapon they will use to pacify and take the fight out of the masses. Marijuana will be legal, coke will be legal, crack, meth etc will be available to everyone. So these programs you see in New York and I am sure are in every other big city are really getting people prepared for that time. They will give out syringes, show people how to shooot up, tell people about dosages and turn american society into a country of JUNKIES.... Get Ready!!!

I remember the crack epidemic in the arly 1990's.  NYC was insane back then. 
Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Kazan on January 05, 2010, 02:40:07 PM
Helps to combat some of the health problems that result from misuse of drugs. Helps to prevent the spread of HIV, accidental overdoses and the like.

Again I don't give a shit about junkies, put a bullet between their eye's, bullets are cheap. Saves money and alot of suffering by the drug addict.
Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: MRDUMPLING on January 05, 2010, 02:43:46 PM
Don't some states have a needle exchange program?  How do you guys feel about that?

I wish my state had one when I was still a competitive bodybuilder.   ;D
Title: Re: NYC spend $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Option D on January 05, 2010, 02:45:37 PM
Welcome to the era of Hope & Change we all are supposed to believe in. 



OBAMA DID THAT ONE TOO... ::)
Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 05, 2010, 02:46:32 PM
Don't some states have a needle exchange program?  How do you guys feel about that?

I wish my state had one when I was still a competitive bodybuilder.   ;D

Ha ha.  I hate needles! 

As far as the pamphelts go, junkies are not going to follow it. 
Title: Re: NYC spend $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: SAMSON123 on January 05, 2010, 02:47:08 PM
I remember the crack epidemic in the arly 1990's.  NYC was insane back then. 

Well imagine what NYC will be like when drugs are cheap, plentiful and legal.....
Title: Re: NYC spend $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 05, 2010, 02:48:46 PM
Well imagine what NYC will be like when drugs are cheap, plentiful and legal.....

I know Samson.  The only difference now is that NYC has gentrified a lot and many people who could not even afford the bouroughs have left. 
Title: Re: NYC spend $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: SAMSON123 on January 05, 2010, 03:01:28 PM
I know Samson.  The only difference now is that NYC has gentrified a lot and many people who could not even afford the bouroughs have left. 

Gentrified????...Those are the BIGGEST DRUGGIES!!!!!
Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Tito24 on January 05, 2010, 03:26:22 PM
can you guys imagine the ROI on this investment...

I'm thinking this 32k investment could return a total of $ 3010 per dollar invested..

so 32,000 (dollars invested) X 3010= $96,320,000.00


 $96,320,000.00 saved for the state of NY over the next 25 years.*****Disclaimer at bottom



Numbers used for entertainment purposes only.
Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: 240 is Back on January 05, 2010, 03:33:37 PM
They could have gotten a smackhead to pen the steps for $8 and a pack of Newports.


And I wouldn't blame Obama, I would blame the NYC health dept.  They would have released this bullshiite if mccain had been in office too. 

To play devils advocate, (please no personal attacks) there are probably police officers and health officials who need to know this info to recognize users and those about to use.  Plus a lot of the book is about how to deal with OD's and HIV users.  Really, how many 22 year old fresh-from-college healthcare workers are going to know the diff between a person shooting H and injecting insulin for diabetes. If you're going to have the power to take away ppl's kids, etc, you need to know what drug use looks like.
Title: Re: NYC spend $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Tito24 on January 05, 2010, 03:34:08 PM
OBAMA DID THAT ONE TOO... ::)

Obama's is responsible for everything now, since he is president.. ;D

I was surprised that the thread lasted so long without someone blaming Obama for this program
Title: Re: NYC spend $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Option D on January 05, 2010, 04:02:09 PM
Obama's is responsible for everything now, since he is president.. ;D

I was surprised that the thread lasted so long without someone blaming Obama for this program

lol...right..oh shit i just got a headache...ill blame that on obama for that too
Title: Re: NYC spend $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Tito24 on January 05, 2010, 04:24:49 PM
lol...right..oh shit i just got a headache...ill blame that on obama for that too

Yes, it's an Obama induced headache

Title: Re: NYC spend $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 05, 2010, 07:05:00 PM
Yes, it's an Obama induced headache



I have had an Obama headaache since November 3, 2008.   ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Parker on January 06, 2010, 01:44:37 AM

Huh? They are shooting up with Heroin or maybe you missed that part ::)

Maybe they can come up with a whole bunch of these "How to Snort Cocain", " The correct way to smoke crack", or my all time favorite " Free Basing, try it you might like it"
Here's a thought, why and how is heroin and cocaine in this country. I agree that we shouldn't be telling people how to do illegal activities, but how about cutting off at the source?. And do you know why we don't do that? Well, because, it brings too much money in ;)
Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 06, 2010, 05:31:16 AM
Here's a thought, why and how is heroin and cocaine in this country. I agree that we shouldn't be telling people how to do illegal activities, but how about cutting off at the source?. And do you know why we don't do that? Well, because, it brings too much money in ;)

That too. 

My belief is always that where there is a demand for something, there will always be a supply one way or the other. 
Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Kazan on January 06, 2010, 07:31:23 AM
Here's a thought, why and how is heroin and cocaine in this country. I agree that we shouldn't be telling people how to do illegal activities, but how about cutting off at the source?. And do you know why we don't do that? Well, because, it brings too much money in ;)

The government will not cut off the source because they simply don't care, or are complicit in drug running.
Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 06, 2010, 07:34:05 AM
The government will not cut off the source because they simply don't care, or are complicit in drug running.

The govt loves drugs.  Think about the following who are employed mainly due to the drug "war" -

Cops
Corrections Officers
Parol Officers
Counselers
Judges
DA's
Social Workers
Court Officers
DEA
ATF

Think of the tax dollars they steal from us to keep those jobs going. 
Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Tito24 on January 06, 2010, 07:46:43 AM
The govt loves drugs.  Think about the following who are employed mainly due to the drug "war" -

Cops
Corrections Officers
Parol Officers
Counselers
Judges
DA's
Social Workers
Court Officers
DEA
ATF

Think of the tax dollars they steal from us to keep those jobs going. 

Perhaps we know the answer why drugs aren't legal..

Just imagine if we stopped the drug war how much could be saved.
Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: kcballer on January 06, 2010, 09:27:03 AM
Ha ha.  I hate needles! 

As far as the pamphelts go, junkies are not going to follow it. 

And you know this how? The needle exchange Insite in Vancouver, BC does a pretty good turn of business and is well known amongst all junkies.  Does it mean they will all go there? No, but if you can save money in the long run due to a lack of hospital care needed for those that use it. 
Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 06, 2010, 09:32:49 AM
And you know this how? The needle exchange Insite in Vancouver, BC does a pretty good turn of business and is well known amongst all junkies.  Does it mean they will all go there? No, but if you can save money in the long run due to a lack of hospital care needed for those that use it. 

I didnt know you were hooked into the junkie community.  That explains a lot KC.  ;D   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: kcballer on January 06, 2010, 10:09:25 AM
I didnt know you were hooked into the junkie community.  That explains a lot KC.  ;D   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

It's called being educated on a subject before commenting 333.  You might want to try it some time  ;D
Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 06, 2010, 10:13:31 AM
It's called being educated on a subject before commenting 333.  You might want to try it some time  ;D

I guess we all have different things we are interested in.  Knowing how the junkie community works never appealed to me, but thats cool. 
Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Kazan on January 06, 2010, 11:40:16 AM
And you know this how? The needle exchange Insite in Vancouver, BC does a pretty good turn of business and is well known amongst all junkies.  Does it mean they will all go there? No, but if you can save money in the long run due to a lack of hospital care needed for those that use it. 

A serious questions, why are you left wingers so fixated on the lowest common denominator, the dregs of humanity? I'm pretty sure everyone knows that heroin, cocain, crack...... is bad for you and most likely will lead to addiction. These people have done this to themselves, they stick the needle in their own arm, why should one red cent of tax payer money be spent on those who provide absolutly nothing to society? I don't feel sorry for junkies as a matter of fact the sooner the OD the better, less trash to clean up.
Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: kcballer on January 06, 2010, 12:38:59 PM
A serious questions, why are you left wingers so fixated on the lowest common denominator, the dregs of humanity? I'm pretty sure everyone knows that heroin, cocain, crack...... is bad for you and most likely will lead to addiction. These people have done this to themselves, they stick the needle in their own arm, why should one red cent of tax payer money be spent on those who provide absolutly nothing to society? I don't feel sorry for junkies as a matter of fact the sooner the OD the better, less trash to clean up.

Good points.  I guess for me personally it's because i believe everyone should have a chance at redemption.  I'm not for endless handouts but i am for harm reduction (especially as it can lead to lower costs).
Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Kazan on January 06, 2010, 12:46:11 PM
Good points.  I guess for me personally it's because i believe everyone should have a chance at redemption.  I'm not for endless handouts but i am for harm reduction (especially as it can lead to lower costs).

Well it's not like there aren't countless programs/detox/addiction clinics.... out there, we as a society have to face the fact that these people do not want to give up the drugs, if they did they could seek help. My point is if you care so little about yourself that you will lie/cheat/steal/kill to feed your habit then you are of no use to society and should be scrapped.
Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: BM OUT on January 06, 2010, 12:57:11 PM
Here's a thought, why and how is heroin and cocaine in this country. I agree that we shouldn't be telling people how to do illegal activities, but how about cutting off at the source?. And do you know why we don't do that? Well, because, it brings too much money in ;)

How about legalising them and stop dictating to adults what they can and cant do with their own bodies.We allow abortions but a grown man cant sniff cocain if he wants to.Utterly assanine.
Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: dario73 on January 06, 2010, 01:00:33 PM
Just because they are thought how to use a needle or even exchange for one doesn't mean these addicts won't overdose. It will not prevent an addict from breaking into someone's home, car, or business to get money or any private personal property they can sell in order to support their habit. It won't stop the prostitutes that are drugged out their mind.

So where are the savings again?
Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 07, 2010, 06:13:51 AM
Ha Ha.

Title: Re: NYC spent $32,000 to teach proper way to shoot up Heroin.
Post by: Parker on January 07, 2010, 06:46:24 AM
The govt loves drugs.  Think about the following who are employed mainly due to the drug "war" -

Cops
Corrections Officers
Parol Officers
Counselers
Judges
DA's
Social Workers
Court Officers
DEA
ATF

Think of the tax dollars they steal from us to keep those jobs going. 
there is money in misery. There is money in addiction. And it pays to keep a certain level of the population addicted. That program, someone(s) making a profit. Just like Al Gore is making a profit off of Global warming so too are politicians, dem and repub, make money off of addiction and crime. If Crime and addiction were down, what platforms would politicians run on? If there were less criminals, what would the jails be used for?