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Title: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: Tre on January 05, 2010, 11:30:02 PM
My kid is a kick-ass soccer player.  In addition to having great size and speed, she's got incredible ball skills and unbelievable offensive instincts...but she doesn't exactly enjoy playing defense. lol 

She's a really good player (not just being a proud dad here) and has been invited to try out for a select team, but I don't think she's ready yet. 

Here's the real issue, though - she's only 7-1/2 years old.  Development-wise, there's no denying that she'd progress quickly in that type of environment (if chosen), but isn't that a little young to be designating your young athlete as a soccer player?  She's got softball starting next month, too, and wants to continue taking 2-3 hours of futsal classes each week.  If she ends up opting for club level soccer, she would most likely have to pass on basketball next year and would also stop playing rec soccer, which she has a lot of fun with (she loves her team). 

The parents in my area are hyper-competitive when it comes to kids' soccer, so naturally, I do have some concern about mine keeping pace.  I don't want her to look back in 10 years and be mad at me for keeping her down.  To put it in perspective, I made her play 3 years of t-ball and she won't forgive me for that - she hated that season, because she was bored to death.

She's welcoming the challenge, but I'm afraid to put her in a position where she might miss out on other sports opportunities.  My thinking is that I should keep her in rec soccer (they're having a good indoor season), plus the futsal classes, for another couple of years and then see whether she wants to move up. 

Have any of you been through similar situations?  How did you handle it?  Thanks, guys.



Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: timfogarty on January 05, 2010, 11:47:44 PM
let her decide:  club soccer or rec soccer with other activities
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: Parker on January 05, 2010, 11:58:47 PM
My kid is a kick-ass soccer player.  In addition to having great size and speed, she's got incredible ball skills and unbelievable offensive instincts...but she doesn't exactly enjoy playing defense. lol 

She's a really good player (not just being a proud dad here) and has been invited to try out for a select team, but I don't think she's ready yet. 

Here's the real issue, though - she's only 7-1/2 years old.  Development-wise, there's no denying that she'd progress quickly in that type of environment (if chosen), but isn't that a little young to be designating your young athlete as a soccer player?  She's got softball starting next month, too, and wants to continue taking 2-3 hours of futsal classes each week.  If she ends up opting for club level soccer, she would most likely have to pass on basketball next year and would also stop playing rec soccer, which she has a lot of fun with (she loves her team). 

The parents in my area are hyper-competitive when it comes to kids' soccer, so naturally, I do have some concern about mine keeping pace.  I don't want her to look back in 10 years and be mad at me for keeping her down.  To put it in perspective, I made her play 3 years of t-ball and she won't forgive me for that - she hated that season, because she was bored to death.

She's welcoming the challenge, but I'm afraid to put her in a position where she might miss out on other sports opportunities.  My thinking is that I should keep her in rec soccer (they're having a good indoor season), plus the futsal classes, for another couple of years and then see whether she wants to move up. 

Have any of you been through similar situations?  How did you handle it?  Thanks, guys.




Hoepfully by the time she is 11, you won't have her in so many programs...that is the one of the many things that have broken down the family, and programs have replaced or usurped school's importance. And chicks who are in soccer, field hockey, track and field, lacrosse are popular, and somewhat softball, girls who do basketball and the other sports (somewhat softball, again) aren't.

A well rounded chick (or guy) in highschool will do a fall sport and a spring summer, usually useing the fall sport as primer for spring.
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: Tre on January 06, 2010, 12:36:33 AM
Hoepfully by the time she is 11, you won't have her in so many programs...that is the one of the many things that have broken down the family, and programs have replaced or usurped school's importance. And chicks who are in soccer, field hockey, track and field, lacrosse are popular, and somewhat softball, girls who do basketball and the other sports (somewhat softball, again) aren't.

A well rounded chick (or guy) in highschool will do a fall sport and a spring summer, usually using the fall sport as primer for spring.

The youth sports landscape has changed so much over the past 20 years in large part because of the cost of college.  The fact that you've got high school kids holding press conferences to announce where they're going to school is evidence of this new reality. 

Family time is still important, but my daughter's mother and I are already divorced and since there's no 'daily play' among the neighborhood kids, I have to keep her busy with activities.  If her mother had her way (which she does most of the time), she'd have the kid with Mormon kids every day talking Mormon shit and playing dolls, although baby mama does somewhat understand the importance of team sports now.   

I don't want her burned out on everything by the time she's 13, but she should be in the habit of having intense exercise/training several days a week.  Kids who have stuff to do tend to stay out of trouble and do better in school.  I'm choosing sports over more church shit.  She gets more than enough of that.

 
 

Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: Parker on January 06, 2010, 12:47:53 AM
The youth sports landscape has changed so much over the past 20 years in large part because of the cost of college.  The fact that you've got high school kids holding press conferences to announce where they're going to school is evidence of this new reality. 

Family time is still important, but my daughter's mother and I are already divorced and since there's no 'daily play' among the neighborhood kids, I have to keep her busy with activities.  If her mother had her way (which she does most of the time), she'd have the kid with Mormon kids every day talking Mormon shit and playing dolls, although baby mama does somewhat understand the importance of team sports now.   

I don't want her burned out on everything by the time she's 13, but she should be in the habit of having intense exercise/training several days a week.  Kids who have stuff to do tend to stay out of trouble and do better in school.  I'm choosing sports over more church shit.  She gets more than enough of that.

 
 


Yeah, true, but the money is made in men's sports. And they typically get shortchanged in the long run...parents, highschool coaches, colleges, they all pimp the kids.

But, think of the positive, a tired, busy girl, has a smaller chance of getting pregnant ;)

I saw something on TV once, I think it was NBC or ABC, it showed this mom taking her kid (mostly her son) to different things everyday of the week. And chances are he never got to do his homework. In schools today, even in middle school, parents will write notes saying that the children couldn't do their homework due to sports practice. Which one, takes priority. Most suburban kids in Maryland do soccer, lacrosse (a given), basketball or football. Most don't go on to the pros, and in lacrosse, if they are good go onto U of Maryland, Duke, UNC, NC St, or a Ivy league college up North.
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: Tre on January 06, 2010, 01:12:26 AM
Yeah, true, but the money is made in men's sports. And they typically get shortchanged in the long run...parents, highschool coaches, colleges, they all pimp the kids.

But, think of the positive, a tired, busy girl, has a smaller chance of getting pregnant ;)

I saw something on TV once, I think it was NBC or ABC, it showed this mom taking her kid (mostly her son) to different things everyday of the week. And chances are he never got to do his homework. In schools today, even in middle school, parents will write notes saying that the children couldn't do their homework due to sports practice. Which one, takes priority. Most suburban kids in Maryland do soccer, lacrosse (a given), basketball or football. Most don't go on to the pros, and in lacrosse, if they are good go onto U of Maryland, Duke, UNC, NC St, or a Ivy league college up North.

EXACTLY on the pregnancy thing.  Rarely did any female athlete have to 'move away for a while' where I was from.  I think I remember one and she played basketball, as I recall. 

The principle has instituted a homework policy out here that limits kids in 4th and 5th grades to no more than 1 hour of homework per night.  My kid is in 2nd grade, so she should have no more than 20-30 minutes per night.  I was never a big homework proponent anyway (hated that crap and never felt it had any value), so I'm fine with that. 

As for the money, it's not about going pro or appearing in a Gatorade commercial.  It's about saving $300-400,000 on a college education.    Tucked away, that can provide a nice little retirement bonus for most people...or can even help the kiddo purchase a home someday.

Sure, not every kid playing club soccer is going to go on to play for a major college program, but there's so much money at stake that it makes sense for the parents to work to help carve a slice of it for their kids. 

That said, the advanced training isn't free, nor does it come cheap.  I don't have an estimate on what it might cost to spend the next 10 years in the program, but by the time you add up all the fees and travel costs, hell, we could easily be looking at $125,000 conservatively.  Hmm, she'd better get that commercial. lol





Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: Method101 on January 06, 2010, 01:20:08 AM
If i had a daughter she would be forced to do gymnastics/jogging, if i had a son weightlifting.
end of discussion no arguements.
 :D

I played Rugby for 10 years from a very young age, i was lucky never to get a serious injury other than light concussion.
Somone on the same team as me, shortly after i stopped playing he took a hard bump(tackle lol) and now hes blind in one eye, others broke bones etc. it's just not worth it.

Even in soccer iv heard of people getting kicked in the head and having brain damage/dying. In rugby some assholes try to stamp on your head when you on the ground, i saw one fat fuck do that to my teammate once so i grabbed him and it started a riot, even the parents on the sideline were fighting.
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: Parker on January 06, 2010, 01:32:46 AM
If i had a daughter she would be forced to do gymnastics/jogging, if i had a son weightlifting.
end of discussion no arguements.
 :D

Depends. Starting a girl easy in gymnastics will stunt her growth. Start late, and if she is busty, it will throw off her balance. Jogging, eh, is good. But women have more injuries in in running sports than men, because women's legs are canted in more than men's are. So they have more leg, ankle and foot related injuries in terms of track and field sports. Again, if she is busty, she might be self conscious of her boobs bounding around. When I was in high school a girl I knew had that problem... She was fast as hell, but her D cup breasts were faster.   

I suggest you starting them off, but let them decide after a while. I did track and field, but I wanted to do lift weights more than I wanted to run.
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on January 06, 2010, 01:33:42 AM
my son has already chosen iron :-X ;D
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: Parker on January 06, 2010, 01:35:02 AM
my son has already chosen iron :-X ;D
What would happen if you had a daughter, that is the real question. Does Egypt have female Olympic competitors, in any sport?
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: Tre on January 06, 2010, 01:39:22 AM

My daughter loves the gym, but I won't let her lift, of course.  She likes being there in the kids area and wants to go as often as she can, because she looks forward to being able to lift someday. 

She drinks Muscle Milk and I think she even posts on GetBig from time-to-time.   ;D
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: Parker on January 06, 2010, 01:40:45 AM
My daughter loves the gym, but I won't let her lift, of course.  She likes being there in the kids area and wants to go as often as she can, because she looks forward to being able to lift someday. 


Your daughter may turn out like that lil Brazilian chick in the thread below, or like Cara Heads-Lane. Not too thick, but a dime.
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on January 06, 2010, 01:53:24 AM
What would happen if you had a daughter, that is the real question. Does Egypt have female Olympic competitors, in any sport?

sure and why not??!!.. even in weightlifting some egyptian girls won the world championship (under 21 years old).. but if i had a daughter i would never encourage her to be a weightlifter because i believe iron games are against the delicate nature of females!!..
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: Parker on January 06, 2010, 01:57:54 AM
sure and why not??!!.. even in weightlifting some egyptian girls won the world championship (under 21 years old).. but if i had a daughter i would never encourage her to be a weightlifter because i believe iron games are against the delicate nature of females!!..
Have you seen that Brazilian chick in the thread below? She lifts weights, mostly squats, and she is hot as hell.
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: Special Ed on January 06, 2010, 02:06:25 AM
Soccer and field hockey are both great sports for girls. I would encourage her to pursue whichever sport she enjoys more. If she has natural soccer talent and really likes to practice and play, I would suggest you have her play select. If she would rather be playing another sport, she's never going to want to work hard enough to be the best, so may as well let her play what she wants.

Btw Tre, they also have these things called academic scholarships and they give them out much easier to black A students than they do to black varsity students. Look into that!
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on January 06, 2010, 02:07:10 AM
Have you seen that Brazilian chick in the thread below? She lifts weights, mostly squats, and she is hot as hell.

cory everson was ms. olympia and she was hot as hell but still for me iron is not for women.. this is why her offseason pics. are hotter than he contests pics.,.. right??..
 
my wife sometimes does use 1 kg dumbbells in her fitness workouts but just to keep he muscles fit and not to build more size!!..
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: Parker on January 06, 2010, 02:27:33 AM
Soccer and field hockey are both great sports for girls. I would encourage her to pursue whichever sport she enjoys more. If she has natural soccer talent and really likes to practice and play, I would suggest you have her play select. If she would rather be playing another sport, she's never going to want to work hard enough to be the best, so may as well let her play what she wants.

Btw Tre, they also have these things called academic scholarships and they give them out much easier to black A students than they do to black varsity students. Look into that!
Now, a Scholar Athlete they get even more recognition!

Sherief, this is what I'm talking about. Brazilian chick with thighs from sqautting, and the typical Brazilian booty
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=313408.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=313408.0)
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: Azn Muscle on January 06, 2010, 02:31:09 AM
OP I don't doubt your kid would have "incredible ball skills".  :-\
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on January 06, 2010, 02:33:14 AM
Now, a Scholar student, they get even more recognition!

Sherief, this is what I'm talking about. Brazilian chick with thighs from sqauttting, and the typical Brazilian booty
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=313408.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=313408.0)

the girl is hot for sure but if she was doing leg extension and some light leg press only she would be hotter for me ;D
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: bigdumbbell on January 06, 2010, 02:38:26 AM
post pics of the 7 year old so WillPrant has J/O material. 
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: WillGrant on January 06, 2010, 02:40:47 AM
post pics of the 7 year old so WillPrant has J/O material. 
Dude you are a sick pedophile  :-X is it a surprise though being a fa66ot like you are  ::)
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: Tre on January 06, 2010, 09:02:47 AM
Soccer and field hockey are both great sports for girls. I would encourage her to pursue whichever sport she enjoys more. If she has natural soccer talent and really likes to practice and play, I would suggest you have her play select. If she would rather be playing another sport, she's never going to want to work hard enough to be the best, so may as well let her play what she wants.

Btw Tre, they also have these things called academic scholarships and they give them out much easier to black A students than they do to black varsity students. Look into that!

A's are expected in this house.  Granted, I grew up in a home where school was stressed from Day One and my daughter's mom grew up in a home where church was #1, but the rules of my upbringing still apply - academics are top priority.  Church is for Sundays - I don't want to hear that shit on other days of the week.  Adam was a prophet, my ass.  Anyway...

Prior to having a child, I always said that I'd make sure my kids learned how to play tennis and golf, because I felt those two activities could open doors that might otherwise be closed.  I grew up playing basketball and football almost every day and while I was decent in basketball, I wasn't a varsity-level player.  My sport was football, but my high school didn't have a team and I was unable to make the switch to soccer.  Back to golf, she's beaten me several times in chipping competitions at the country club.  We rarely play tennis, though.

She started playing t-ball when she was 4 and the kid has a big bat and a strong arm.  I was wrong to make her play t-ball again this past season, but I thought being in a leadership role on a team of young girls would be good for her.  All it did was make her dislike t-ball, so now she wants to quit.  Her mother is demanding that she play, though, and told me that kiddo is 7, so she 'doesn't have a say'.  I strongly disagree with that way of thinking, but do agree that she should continue with softball at least one more season. 

She's just a natural athlete and could star in almost anything.  I'm proud of her and consider us lucky to have such a talented kid, but I sometimes think it would be better if she was just great at one thing that she enjoyed.  :-\
 
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: dr.chimps on January 06, 2010, 09:09:14 AM
In addition to having great size and speed, she's got incredible ball skills and unbelievable offensive instincts...but she doesn't exactly enjoy playing defense.
May these words not come back and haunt you.  ;D
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: jaejonna on January 06, 2010, 10:06:06 AM
I started playing on the 'Select' team when I was in 5th Grade
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: uberman09 on January 06, 2010, 10:11:00 AM
looks like we have another "coach" father - worse, a SINGLE coach  father... Who prefers to get his daughter spend way too much time in sports activities instead of spending time with her. I bet youre quite not the very talkative guy.

Like she "decided" for anything you got her into until now. To me it seems YOU got her into all of this stuff... For personnal reasons and because of what happened in your own life. Does she do what she wants, or what you want her to do... does she know what she wants -man, she's fucking 7 y/ old...-, or does she do what she thinks you want her to do... Classical case of an adult believing his 7 y/o kid already knows what she wants when in fact she 's just conditionned by YOU to do something YOU wanted her to do.


brutal tip: talk with her and ask her what she wants / like... Dont ask us you dumbfuck. Chances are that if you didnt start communicating with her that way sooner, it's already too late.
Brutal 2nd tip: every single kid is (seems) " incredibly talented" at that age... not just yours.. Does it mean she/he will be that talented later in every aspect of her/his life? not at all. There s more to life and one's personality than just being good (or even very good) at some fucking sport. It's obvious you're overlooking a lot of things aside of sport.

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The parents in my area are hyper-competitive when it comes to kids' soccer, so naturally, I do have some concern about mine keeping pace.
chrystal clear proof you raise your kid not paying attention to her thoughts and feelings but comparing, evaluating, judging her and your own parenthood/fatherhood to those of your neighbours. Sad.
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: Tapeworm on January 06, 2010, 10:27:23 AM
Imo let a kid follow his/her natural inclinations.  They're born curious and active and you really can't go wrong unless the kid turns into a complete bookworm, jock bully, or video game addict (the biggest danger these days). 

Children are prone to lose interest in things fast but it's always replaced by a new fascination.  Parents often interpret this as fickleness or ADD but it seems perfectly healthy to me.  New discoveries is what childhood is all about and should be encouraged imo, although tempered with a sense of responsibility toward commitments like school, household responsibilities, and personal relationships.

But wtf do I know, I haven't had the chance to screw one up yet.  :D
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: uberman09 on January 06, 2010, 10:31:59 AM
my main concnern is the guy asks strangers on the internet for advices about raising his kid. It means he didnt find someone in his close "entourage" to answer his question. It's also obvious he's obsessed with sports and almost dont talk directly with his daughter which is a bad sign of poor communcation skills.
He prefers to find "ready to use/consume answers" that fit in the general mainstream TRENDS of society,  instead of building genuine and more adapted, suitable answers talking with his daughter, and teaching her to do the same later in her life with other people as a result.

And tre, dont even come here whining about how harsh we are cause you asked for it.
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: Tapeworm on January 06, 2010, 10:41:44 AM
People who have kids just love talking about them.  I'll probably be the same way.  Heaps of guys announce marriages/births/etc on here.  Tre probably figured he'd just throw it out there and see what he got, seeing as how we give eachother shit but there's a lot of family guys hereabouts.  If he gets a bunch of crap I'm sure he'll just disregard it. 
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 06, 2010, 10:44:57 AM
Stop wasting her time with a useless sport like soccer.  What are your hopes?  That she is 1 of maybe 20 girls that make it out of millions to play on the Olympic team?  Have her concentrate on studies and school and do something with her life via an education, maybe use soccer as a means to get her a scholarship but don't have her waste that opportunity worrying about sports.

Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: uberman09 on January 06, 2010, 10:47:47 AM
Stop wasting her time with a useless sport like soccer.  What are your hopes?  That she is 1 of maybe 20 girls that make it out of millions to play on the Olympic team?  Have her concentrate on studies and school and do something with her life via an education, maybe use soccer as a means to get her a scholarship but don't have her waste that opportunity worrying about sports.


qfmft.

he 's obviously puting way too much emphasis on the "sport" "physical" part of HER life (especially considering she's not a HE ...smells like a typical case of a father who wished he got a SON...)
If enjoying a sport that keeps her healthy and develops her social skills is obviously OK, being extreme about it or any other physical activity is Not. What about she just keep playing the sport she "chose" (  ::) ) and keep it that way. As simple as that.  More than 2/3 hours a week of physical activity for a 7 y/o GIRL ? please.

Like there' s nothing else in her education that requires as much emphasis from her father... Maybe he thinks that's all he has, and all he can give her...
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: Tapeworm on January 06, 2010, 10:54:01 AM
Have her 'use' soccer as a source of enjoyment and a chance to interact with friends.  This kid is 7, no?  Childhood is not an audition that you have to pass.  Everything is not a test, gentlemen.
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: Tapeworm on January 06, 2010, 10:57:00 AM
I can hear her in therapy in 20 years: "I had 87 dads!  And they were all Getbiggers!  Arrrrgh!"
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: uberman09 on January 06, 2010, 10:58:45 AM
I can hear her in therapy in 20 years: "I had 87 dads!  And they were all Getbiggers!  Arrrrgh!"
more like " if i didnt spend 20 hours a week in a locker with women since i'm 5, i wouldnt be enjoying licking clitorises as much as i do today and would even find some apeal into men's reproductive appendices instead"
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: 240 is Back on January 06, 2010, 11:05:41 AM
Sherief Shalaby: Cute pic!

Tre: I'd put her in the most advanced level you can.  She'll make friends and have fun at any level, and if she is talented, she will rise to top of the team quickly no matter what level she is at.

Getbig: My kid is 3.  he has clearly defined abs and some pretty good shoulder separation.  He drinks whey and eat a pile of fruit each day while his friends are eating cookies.  he pwns all the other kids at the kiddie pool.

[jk]I've looked all over for a youth bodybuilding program - I'd like to get him in a pair of posing thongs [no pedo] before he starts grade school.  Can anyone recommend a good youth BBing program?  Thanks in advance.[/jk]
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: Tre on January 06, 2010, 11:07:01 AM
my main concnern is the guy asks strangers on the internet for advices about raising his kid. It means he didnt find someone in his close "entourage" to answer his question. It's also obvious he's obsessed with sports and almost dont talk directly with his daughter which is a bad sign of poor communcation skills.

He prefers to find "ready to use/consume answers" that fit in the general mainstream TRENDS of society,  instead of building genuine and more adapted, suitable answers talking with his daughter, and teaching her to do the same later in her life with other people as a result.

And tre, dont even come here whining about how harsh we are cause you asked for it.

What makes an 'entourage' member's opinion or suggestion any more valid than a stranger's?  I know a lot of GetBiggers personally and despite how crazy we may all act on the site, there are a lot of really bright people here with a lot more experience than you or me in various things.  I wasn't an elite-level athlete myself and her mother never played sports at all, but there are guys on GetBig who can offer valuable advice, because they either were and know what their parents did right/wrong or because they've already raised star athletes. 

I do love sports and while I wanted her to play soccer to help develop her balance and footwork for other sports, I certainly did not come into this expecting to have a superstar on my hands.  So, her mom and I are not exactly equipped to make all the right parenting decisions without garnering more information from people who can bring more perspective.   

Kiddo and I talk about various things all the time, but she's 7.  She likes the challenge of possibly playing select, but doesn't want to leave her friends.  There is no one right answer that I'm hoping to get from GetBig and no matter what she/we choose(s) moving forward, she'll have to give something up.  That's an important life lesson, but knowing which route is best for her now vs long-term does create a dilemma and it's only natural to want to hash it out by discussing as many possibilities as we're aware of.

Imo let a kid follow his/her natural inclinations.  They're born curious and active and you really can't go wrong unless the kid turns into a complete bookworm, jock bully, or video game addict (the biggest danger these days). 

Children are prone to lose interest in things fast but it's always replaced by a new fascination.  Parents often interpret this as fickleness or ADD but it seems perfectly healthy to me.  New discoveries is what childhood is all about and should be encouraged imo, although tempered with a sense of responsibility toward commitments like school, household responsibilities, and personal relationships.

But wtf do I know, I haven't had the chance to screw one up yet.  :D

You're so right and thanks, man. 

Believe me, I knew a LOT more about raising kids before I actually had one.  ;D
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: leadhead on January 06, 2010, 11:20:14 AM
Let her play what and when she wants to, I see no future harm to the child if it's her decision. I have a 3 year old daughter that likes gymnastics, but when she gets older I will assure you that her education will come way before any sport. Children are too often taught sporting activities are more important than their education, and then they struggle throughout life without a decent educational background.

I have seen some of the pushy soccer parent types and I can't stand it (I hope you are not one of these people). A education will bring about many more opportunities  99.99% of the time...
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: Tre on January 06, 2010, 11:41:19 AM
Stop wasting her time with a useless sport like soccer.  What are your hopes?  That she is 1 of maybe 20 girls that make it out of millions to play on the Olympic team?  Have her concentrate on studies and school and do something with her life via an education, maybe use soccer as a means to get her a scholarship but don't have her waste that opportunity worrying about sports.

If she just did the standard one practice/one game per week deal, she'd be fine for now.  Looking ahead, she could probably coast along playing rec and then play for the high school just on pure talent alone.  But one thing I *do* know is that kids who have talents need to be taught that they still have to WORK HARD if they want to be the best...and this is true in athletics, just as it is in the classroom. 

qfmft.

he 's obviously puting way too much emphasis on the "sport" "physical" part of HER life (especially considering she's not a HE ...smells like a typical case of a father who wished he got a SON...)
If enjoying a sport that keeps her healthy and develops her social skills is obviously OK, being extreme about it or any other physical activity is Not. What about she just keep playing the sport she "chose" (  ::) ) and keep it that way. As simple as that.  More than 2/3 hours a week of physical activity for a 7 y/o GIRL ? please.

Like there' s nothing else in her education that requires as much emphasis from her father... Maybe he thinks that's all he has, and all he can give her...

We left a great situation in SoCal and chose to move here just prior to kindergarten because this area's schools were among the highest-rated in California.  I couldn't get her mother to leave CA and move to the east coast, so I had to go with the best possible compromise for our daughter. 

I really don't think you understand what I'm up against with the whole Mormonism thing.  TBMs want Mormonism to dominate your life from a very early age and learning how to combat that is a learning process for me that has required a great deal of adaptability.  If I wasn't proactive in getting her involved with sports (something she truly wants to do, not for me, but because it's more fun than other things), then she'd do the typical Mormon thing, by default and that's all she'd ever know, especially with regard to social stuff.  Her mother almost never allows her to play with non-Mormon kids after school, so I have to take her to practice or to the gym in order to broaden her social network.
 
Kids have to remain active.  I remember playing outside 15-20 hours a week as a child, regardless of the weather.  They don't do that here.  It's weird.  Lots of fat kids walking around with their hand-held video games...kids who'd be less fat if they played more.
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on January 06, 2010, 12:34:42 PM
Sherief Shalaby: Cute pic!


thank you!.. one day he will be uncrowned mr. olympia 3x (at least) ;)
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 06, 2010, 01:28:07 PM
Let her make her own decision, let her make the decision it to play a particular sport as long as it doesn't run into consecutive seasons. My son has played baseball since he was in Tee Ball and when he went to pony made the travel ball team as a starting catcher every year. Now I'm devistated this year because he said he wants to wrestle for his school team (they are #5 in our state with 4 National champions) but since I do all the S&C for the school I can't say no nor would....but it hurts....it was ultimately his decision!
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: uberman09 on January 06, 2010, 04:37:47 PM
Let her make her own decision, let her make the decision it to play a particular sport as long as it doesn't run into consecutive seasons. My son has played baseball since he was in Tee Ball and when he went to pony made the travel ball team as a starting catcher every year. Now I'm devistated this year because he said he wants to wrestle for his school team (they are #5 in our state with 4 National champions) but since I do all the S&C for the school I can't say no nor would....but it hurts....it was ultimately his decision LIFE !
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: Hulkotron on January 06, 2010, 04:53:22 PM
How about just asking the kid what she wants to do?
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 06, 2010, 04:56:25 PM
Push her like there is no tomorrow.  Follow the Earl Woods, Agassi's dad, school of thought.  Force her to practice so that you can have a nice early retirement built on her back and hard work.
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 06, 2010, 05:06:24 PM


No, I make his LIFE decisions, he can make the decision on what sport he want's to play.
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: che on January 06, 2010, 05:09:51 PM
How about just asking the kid what she wants to do?

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Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: Tre on January 06, 2010, 09:26:43 PM
How about just asking the kid what she wants to do?

She wants to try out for the select team, but I'm not in favor of it right now.  I did agree to take her to a tryout, though, to WATCH.  If she still wants to try out after seeing how serious it is, then I told her we'd discuss it with her mother and decide as a family.  Why? Because it requires a family commitment when the kid accepts an offer to play, because you're talking three practices per week, which is a significant time obligation, in addition to fundraising and other club-related activities.  Naturally, the point would be moot if she didn't make the team, but it's smarter to discuss the what-ifs in advance. 
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: polychronopolous on January 06, 2010, 09:32:49 PM
My kid is a kick-ass soccer player. 




 ::)

Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 06, 2010, 09:38:24 PM
Imo let a kid follow his/her natural inclinations.  They're born curious and active and you really can't go wrong unless the kid turns into a complete bookworm, jock bully, or video game addict (the biggest danger these days). 

Children are prone to lose interest in things fast but it's always replaced by a new fascination.  Parents often interpret this as fickleness or ADD but it seems perfectly healthy to me.  New discoveries is what childhood is all about and should be encouraged imo, although tempered with a sense of responsibility toward commitments like school, household responsibilities, and personal relationships.

But wtf do I know, I haven't had the chance to screw one up yet.  :D

Have her play a sport that isn't so hard on her knees. If she keeps playing throughout the years, her chances of getting Osgood Schlatter go up significantly and being a female her chances of an ACL injury are almost twice as great as a male. I personally try and talk parents out having their kid play soccer.
Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: Tre on January 06, 2010, 10:41:53 PM
Have her play a sport that isn't so hard on her knees. If she keeps playing throughout the years, her chances of getting Osgood Schlatter go up significantly and being a female her chances of an ACL injury are almost twice as great as a male. I personally try and talk parents out having their kid play soccer.

Don't more women get injured on antiquated hard turf fields than men? 

Would you agree that playing *any* sport hard is hard on the body?  (the reason swimming isn't a 'sport' ;) )  I cannot imagine American life without women's college soccer.

Title: Re: When did you guys let your kids start playing for 'select' teams?
Post by: saucetradomous on January 06, 2010, 10:57:17 PM
I commend you Tre for taking the time to allow your kid to play a variety of different sports.  It will help them develop goals for the future and teach them discipline and the value of hard work.