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Title: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 17, 2010, 09:44:47 AM
Bears' defensive end Gaines Adams died this morning after he was taken to the emergency room at Self Regional Hospital in Greenwood, S.C., according to Greenwood County Coroner James T. Coursey. He was 26.

It remains unclear how or why Adams, who was the fourth overall pick in the 2007 draft out of Clemson, died. An autopsy is expected.

The Bears' traded a second-round draft pick in the 2010 draft to the Buccaneers for Adams in October. He was expected to play a big role for the Bears next season.

Coursey said Adams appeared to be in perfect health. The Greenwood Sheriff's Office and the Greenwood County Coroner's Office.

The cause of death is believed to be a heart attack.


We will update this sad story throughout the day ...


http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2010/01/gaines_adams_dies_in_north_carolina.html
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Ursus on January 17, 2010, 09:48:06 AM
Steroids?
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: hazbin on January 17, 2010, 09:52:10 AM
Steroids?

steroids wouldn't kill a healthy 36 year old.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: JimmyJam1974 on January 17, 2010, 09:55:39 AM
steroids wouldn't kill a healthy 36 year old.
What about 46 y/o?
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: polychronopolous on January 17, 2010, 09:57:54 AM
It's too bad.....the man was a legend.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Ursus on January 17, 2010, 10:03:54 AM
Maybe he was not too healthy.

Was he a heavy guy?
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2010, 10:06:49 AM
Football=unhealthy
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 17, 2010, 10:07:48 AM
Maybe he was not too healthy.

Was he a heavy guy?


(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/GainesAdamsCombine.jpg)
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: 240 is Back on January 17, 2010, 10:09:20 AM
yeah, he wasn't one of those 330 pound guys that sweats in the shower.  Bucs drafted him, I remember how excited everyone was.

The circumstances will probably be a huge factor here.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 17, 2010, 10:09:37 AM
Football=unhealthy

It must be a bitch to wake up everyday knowing your brain is deteriorating by the day, right TA?
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: hazbin on January 17, 2010, 10:10:07 AM
What about 46 y/o?

i'll tell you in 2 years, lol
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Ursus on January 17, 2010, 10:11:04 AM
Wow he looks in great shape.

My 'steroids' comment was a joke like the GB meme.

Maybe something preexisting exaccerbated by a illness or bug etc.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 17, 2010, 10:12:19 AM
What about 46 y/o?

No, it helps.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2010, 10:14:06 AM
It must be a bitch to wake up everyday knowing your brain is deteriorating by the day, right TA?
Quite the opposite.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2313520
Compared to baseball, football players die younger

Professional football players are now more than twice as likely as Major League Baseball players to die before their 50th birthday, and medical experts say the culprit is probably differing body bulk.

As part of a study of early mortality within the National Football League, Scripps Howard News Service compared the lifespan of 3,850 deceased football players against that of 2,403 dead baseball players.

The study found that baseball players and football players born before 1955 were about equally likely to suffer an early death. But the mortality rates sharply differ among athletes born more recently.

The Complete Study
Scripps Howard News Service studied 3,850 professional-football players who have died in the last century. What they found, and some issues it raised, are chronicles here:

• Study: NFL players dying young at alarming rate
• Compared to baseball, football players die younger
• Bigger isn't better as far as health is concerned
• Evidence is clear: Preps are getting bigger, too
Among the 8,961 pro-football players born in the last 50 years, at least 130 are already dead. Among 4,382 professional baseball players, 31 are known to have died. That means 1 in every 69 football players is dead compared to 1 in every 154 baseball players.

Medical experts were quick to suspect body weight. Offensive and defensive linemen average at least 100 pounds more than most baseball players.

"There certainly seems to be a big difference between baseball players and football players, speaking just from what I see on TV,'' said Dr. Sherry Baron of the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health. "This comparison is very interesting.''

Baron said she plans to soon repeat her 1994 study of mortality rates within the NFL. She concluded 11 years ago that most NFL players were not dying prematurely, although she said linemen had a 52 percent greater risk of death from heart disease.

The most common causes of death among baseball players are accidents, especially auto accidents, the Scripps Howard study found. Only a third of the baseball players died of medical causes.

But a majority (52 percent) of the deceased football players succumbed to conditions such as coronary disease, stroke and cancer -- diseases known to be more common among obese people.

The deceased baseball players averaged 192 pounds during their athletic careers while the dead football players averaged 238 pounds. Football players who died of medical causes averaged 248 pounds.

"There seems to be a linear relationship between weight and the likelihood of cardiovascular disease,'' said Kevin Guskiewicz, director of the Sports Medicine Research Laboratory at the University of North Carolina.

Guskiewicz has found increased occurrences of hypertension and heart disease among 2,700 retired NFL players. "It's clearly higher than in the general population,'' he said.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2010, 10:17:05 AM
COMPARING LIFE EXPECTANCY

53-59

Average for an NFL retiree, depending on playing position, according to cardiologist Jeffrey Boone.


75

Average for U.S. men overall, according to the National Center for Health Statistics.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: 240 is Back on January 17, 2010, 10:17:56 AM
"Football players who died of medical causes averaged 248 pounds"

That's probably the key right there.  I don't care if you're 5% body fat... that's a lot of work for the heart.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 17, 2010, 10:18:24 AM
Quite the opposite.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2313520
Compared to baseball, football players die younger

Professional football players are now more than twice as likely as Major League Baseball players to die before their 50th birthday, and medical experts say the culprit is probably differing body bulk.

As part of a study of early mortality within the National Football League, Scripps Howard News Service compared the lifespan of 3,850 deceased football players against that of 2,403 dead baseball players.

The study found that baseball players and football players born before 1955 were about equally likely to suffer an early death. But the mortality rates sharply differ among athletes born more recently.

The Complete Study
Scripps Howard News Service studied 3,850 professional-football players who have died in the last century. What they found, and some issues it raised, are chronicles here:

• Study: NFL players dying young at alarming rate
• Compared to baseball, football players die younger
• Bigger isn't better as far as health is concerned
• Evidence is clear: Preps are getting bigger, too
Among the 8,961 pro-football players born in the last 50 years, at least 130 are already dead. Among 4,382 professional baseball players, 31 are known to have died. That means 1 in every 69 football players is dead compared to 1 in every 154 baseball players.

Medical experts were quick to suspect body weight. Offensive and defensive linemen average at least 100 pounds more than most baseball players.

"There certainly seems to be a big difference between baseball players and football players, speaking just from what I see on TV,'' said Dr. Sherry Baron of the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health. "This comparison is very interesting.''

Baron said she plans to soon repeat her 1994 study of mortality rates within the NFL. She concluded 11 years ago that most NFL players were not dying prematurely, although she said linemen had a 52 percent greater risk of death from heart disease.

The most common causes of death among baseball players are accidents, especially auto accidents, the Scripps Howard study found. Only a third of the baseball players died of medical causes.

But a majority (52 percent) of the deceased football players succumbed to conditions such as coronary disease, stroke and cancer -- diseases known to be more common among obese people.

The deceased baseball players averaged 192 pounds during their athletic careers while the dead football players averaged 238 pounds. Football players who died of medical causes averaged 248 pounds.

"There seems to be a linear relationship between weight and the likelihood of cardiovascular disease,'' said Kevin Guskiewicz, director of the Sports Medicine Research Laboratory at the University of North Carolina.

Guskiewicz has found increased occurrences of hypertension and heart disease among 2,700 retired NFL players. "It's clearly higher than in the general population,'' he said.

I stand by my comment. You're an idiot. If wasn't for sports childhood obesity would be twice the rate it is now. You need to define your terms of "unhealthy"
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Ursus on January 17, 2010, 10:18:47 AM
TA I replied in the Serge Nubret thread. Time for you to pony up.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2010, 10:19:06 AM
A 1994 study of 7,000 former players by the National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health found linemen had a 52 percent greater risk of dying from heart disease than the general population. While U.S. life expectancy is 77.6 years, recent studies suggest the average for NFL players is 55, 52 for linemen.

In March the Journal of the American Medical Association published a study that said 97 percent of NFL players during the 2003-04 season were overweight, including 56 percent with a body mass index (BMI) doctors consider obese.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Ursus on January 17, 2010, 10:20:55 AM
TA showing seething hatred for those with a BMI over 20.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 17, 2010, 10:21:20 AM
You could put 50 studies up there and it wouldn't make a difference.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on January 17, 2010, 10:22:21 AM
Bears' defensive end Gaines Adams died this morning after he was taken to the emergency room at Self Regional Hospital in Greenwood, S.C., according to Greenwood County Coroner James T. Coursey. He was 26.

It remains unclear how or why Adams, who was the fourth overall pick in the 2007 draft out of Clemson, died. An autopsy is expected.

The Bears' traded a second-round draft pick in the 2010 draft to the Buccaneers for Adams in October. He was expected to play a big role for the Bears next season.

Coursey said Adams appeared to be in perfect health. The Greenwood Sheriff's Office and the Greenwood County Coroner's Office.

The cause of death is believed to be a heart attack.


We will update this sad story throughout the day ...


http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2010/01/gaines_adams_dies_in_north_carolina.html



This guy was in great shape.  ????
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2010, 10:26:32 AM
You could put 50 studies up there and it wouldn't make a difference.
Facts are inconvenient to your baseless statements.  We already know you just like to make stuff up to fit your agenda.  I wouldn`t expect it any different.

Sports have had no effect on reducing Obesity.  We live in a time where there are more participants than ever in what you call "sports" and the trend of rising obesity amongst the youth is climbing.

In fact, Sports have done MORE harm to Obesity.  What are people watching on Television when they reach for their chips and dip with the only cue to stop is when the bag runs out because they are too stupid to limit themselves.

Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Dreadlifter on January 17, 2010, 10:28:42 AM
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In March the Journal of the American Medical Association published a study that said 97 percent of NFL players during the 2003-04 season were overweight, including 56 percent with a body mass index (BMI) doctors consider obese.

TA we all know BMI is bullshit and meaningless for muscular individuals.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2010, 10:29:41 AM
Pediatr Clin North Am. 2001 Aug;48(4):1017-25.
Television viewing and childhood obesity.
Robinson TN.


Division of General Pediatrics and Stanford Center for Research in Disease Prevention, Stanford University, Stanford, California, USA. tom.robinson@stanford.edu
Children spend a substantial portion of their lives watching television. Investigators have hypothesized that television viewing causes obesity by one or more of three mechanisms: (1) displacement of physical activity, (2) increased calorie consumption while watching or caused by the effects of advertising, and (3) reduced resting metabolism.  Most of these studies have not tested directly the effects of reducing television viewing behaviors alone, but their results support the suggestion that reducing television viewing may help to reduce the risk for obesity or help promote weight loss in obese children. Finally, one school-based, experimental study was designed specifically to test directly the causal relationship between television viewing behaviors and body fatness. The results of this randomized, controlled trial provide evidence that television viewing is a cause of increased body fatness and that reducing television viewing is a promising strategy for preventing childhood obesity
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2010, 10:31:59 AM
TA we all know BMI is bullshit and meaningless for muscular individuals.
It certainly is NOT bullshit.  250 lbs of muscle or 250 lbs of fat is going to be a lot of strain on a body structure not tall enough and with organs not big enough to compensate for the increased size. 
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: polychronopolous on January 17, 2010, 10:32:30 AM
Quite the opposite.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2313520
Compared to baseball, football players die younger



 ::)

Mind blowing revelation there.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2010, 10:35:10 AM
::)

Mind blowing revelation there.

Oh did I spoil your little Sunday male melodrama featuring closeted homosexuals chasing after balls?
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: polychronopolous on January 17, 2010, 10:39:46 AM
Oh did I spoil your little Sunday male melodrama featuring closeted homosexuals chasing after balls?

Well now that's a tad bit presumptuous don't you think?

You are the one who posted this statistic as if it was some incogitable dissemination, not I.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 17, 2010, 10:44:22 AM
Pediatr Clin North Am. 2001 Aug;48(4):1017-25.
Television viewing and childhood obesity.
Robinson TN.


Division of General Pediatrics and Stanford Center for Research in Disease Prevention, Stanford University, Stanford, California, USA. tom.robinson@stanford.edu
Children spend a substantial portion of their lives watching television. Investigators have hypothesized that television viewing causes obesity by one or more of three mechanisms: (1) displacement of physical activity, (2) increased calorie consumption while watching or caused by the effects of advertising, and (3) reduced resting metabolism.  Most of these studies have not tested directly the effects of reducing television viewing behaviors alone, but their results support the suggestion that reducing television viewing may help to reduce the risk for obesity or help promote weight loss in obese children. Finally, one school-based, experimental study was designed specifically to test directly the causal relationship between television viewing behaviors and body fatness. The results of this randomized, controlled trial provide evidence that television viewing is a cause of increased body fatness and that reducing television viewing is a promising strategy for preventing childhood obesity

Thanks for proving what I already said.



Nipping Childhood Obesity In the Bud



Obesity in children in the United States has been increasing at a shocking rate.  According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, obesity among children ages 6-11 has more than doubled in the last 20 years.  The rate among adolescents, ages 12-19, has more than tripled, growing from 5% to 16%. (CDC 2007)  There are various contributing factors that cause obesity.  Most experts agree that nutritional habits and physical activity patterns are major factors contributing to the increase of children who are overweight or obese.  Children who are overweight or obese face many challenges in their youth which can carry on into adulthood if they remain obese, including heart disease, diabetes, and hypertension.  The good news is that children who are overweight or obese can be helped and the problems related to them can be controlled and prevented. 

While genetics and hormones can play a factor in childhood obesity, what children eat and how much is
a huge contributor to excess weight gain but also inactivity plays a role and the lack of school exercise programs does not help.  Some of the best ways to help fight childhood obesity has to start with the support of the entire family by eliminating the high fat high sugar foods that may be kept and replacing them with fruits and vegetables along with balanced smaller portions and most of all being loving and positive. It has always been my belief that children should not be restricted to a regimented diet, to me that is a sure recipe for failure.


Also, instead of sitting in front of the TV, computer or playing video games, make it a family affair and learn to be physically active; go for walks, bike rides plan family outings that encourages physical activities. Remember, it all starts in the home!


Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2010, 10:44:42 AM
Well now that's a tad bit presumptuous don't you think?

You are the one who posted this statistic as if it was some incogitable dissemination, not I.
Well you know there are a lot of deluded individuals to whom this is news and surely this is their first time hearing of it.

I was just being facetious and I know you don`t care who wins the Super Series or whatever they call it.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2010, 10:47:02 AM
Thanks for proving what I already said.



Nipping Childhood Obesity In the Bud



Obesity in children in the United States has been increasing at a shocking rate.  According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, obesity among children ages 6-11 has more than doubled in the last 20 years.  The rate among adolescents, ages 12-19, has more than tripled, growing from 5% to 16%. (CDC 2007)  There are various contributing factors that cause obesity.  Most experts agree that nutritional habits and physical activity patterns are major factors contributing to the increase of children who are overweight or obese.  Children who are overweight or obese face many challenges in their youth which can carry on into adulthood if they remain obese, including heart disease, diabetes, and hypertension.  The good news is that children who are overweight or obese can be helped and the problems related to them can be controlled and prevented. 

While genetics and hormones can play a factor in childhood obesity, what children eat and how much is
a huge contributor to excess weight gain but also inactivity plays a role and the lack of school exercise programs does not help.  Some of the best ways to help fight childhood obesity has to start with the support of the entire family by eliminating the high fat high sugar foods that may be kept and replacing them with fruits and vegetables along with balanced smaller portions and most of all being loving and positive. It has always been my belief that children should not be restricted to a regimented diet, to me that is a sure recipe for failure.


Also, instead of sitting in front of the TV, computer or playing video games, make it a family affair and learn to be physically active; go for walks, bike rides plan family outings that encourages physical activities. Remember, it all starts in the home!



Oh please Coach.  ( I am going to call you by your real name)  What type of television events get the highest ratings every week?  I will give you a hint, its not Sean Hannity.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 17, 2010, 10:50:23 AM
Oh please Coach.  ( I am going to call you by your real name)  What type of television events get the highest ratings every week?  I will give you a hint, its not Sean Hannity.

What THEE fuck are you talking about?
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2010, 10:51:13 AM
Too bad he didn`t pay attention to the BMI.  Perhaps his heart would not have had to compensate for the increased body size.



Coursey later said an autopsy had been conducted in Anderson and concluded that Adams died of cardiac arrest. "They already opened him up and looked at it," Coursey said, saying the autopsy was completed just after 12.30 p.m. Coursey added that Adams had an enlarged heart.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2010, 10:52:40 AM
What THEE fuck are you talking about?
Television watching.  What type of programming is watched by the largest number of people any given week?
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 17, 2010, 10:56:40 AM
Bears' defensive end Gaines Adams died this morning after he was taken to the emergency room at Self Regional Hospital in Greenwood, S.C., according to Greenwood County Coroner James T. Coursey. He was 26.

It remains unclear how or why Adams, who was the fourth overall pick in the 2007 draft out of Clemson, died. An autopsy is expected.

The Bears' traded a second-round draft pick in the 2010 draft to the Buccaneers for Adams in October. He was expected to play a big role for the Bears next season.

Coursey said Adams appeared to be in perfect health. The Greenwood Sheriff's Office and the Greenwood County Coroner's Office.

The cause of death is believed to be a heart attack.


We will update this sad story throughout the day ...


http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2010/01/gaines_adams_dies_in_north_carolina.html

sounds like a cocaine overdose
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on January 17, 2010, 11:14:08 AM
Oh did I spoil your little Sunday male melodrama featuring closeted homosexuals chasing after balls?


Adonis, you've been a bit snippy over the past few days.  What gives???
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: George Whorewell on January 17, 2010, 11:14:37 AM
TA you are such a fucking moron you make my hair hurt.

Does Reggie Bush or Peyton Manning look unhealthy to you?

Football players die younger than baseball players because (a) Football is a more dangerous sport that is way more stressful, violent and taxing on the human body-- Concussions, broken bones, damaged joints and ligaments, etc. (b) Football players have to be physically stronger than baseball players to compete at a high level and to prevent injury--- this necessitates more time in the weight room and more calories to prevent breaking down. (c) Most NFL contracts are NOT guaranteed $, which means guys in the NFL have a much shorter timespan to cash in on their athletic ability-- This means that guys in the NFL are a lot more likely to play injured, ignore physical problems, etc. in order to make bank.

There are about 20 other reasons I can think of--But see if any of that sinks in.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Lion666 on January 17, 2010, 11:15:00 AM
EVERYTHING COMES WITH A PRICE!!!
no matter what,,, in any field, in any subject, sports, business, relationships,, what ever...

the only questions are...
how much???
and are you willing to pay it???
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Sam on January 17, 2010, 11:24:41 AM
TA = The master of the copy and paste to supplement his argument with much more academia than his own personal cerebral intelligencia would possibly allow.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2010, 11:30:19 AM

Adonis, you've been a bit snippy over the past few days.  What gives???
Just trying to stir things up a bit.  This place has been quite the bore for far too long.  Time to bring it back to its original glory.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2010, 11:36:18 AM
TA you are such a fucking moron you make my hair hurt.

Does Reggie Bush or Peyton Manning look unhealthy to you?

Football players die younger than baseball players because (a) Football is a more dangerous sport that is way more stressful, violent and taxing on the human body-- Concussions, broken bones, damaged joints and ligaments, etc. (b) Football players have to be physically stronger than baseball players to compete at a high level and to prevent injury--- this necessitates more time in the weight room and more calories to prevent breaking down. (c) Most NFL contracts are NOT guaranteed $, which means guys in the NFL have a much shorter timespan to cash in on their athletic ability-- This means that guys in the NFL are a lot more likely to play injured, ignore physical problems, etc. in order to make bank.

There are about 20 other reasons I can think of--But see if any of that sinks in.

I didn`t know the Bush family was good at football.  I just googled Peyton Manning and he is best known for competing in an Oreo Challenge. HAHAHA 

(http://www.ibj.com/ext/resources/blog/thescore/uploads/2009/01/oreo.jpg)
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Wiggs on January 17, 2010, 11:39:29 AM
He was 26 years old and it was apparently an ENGLARGED HEART.....Here we go :-X
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2010, 11:44:02 AM
He was 26 years old and it was apparently an ENGLARGED HEART.....Here we go :-X
If they did the autopsy correctly, they would probably also find an Engorged butthole.  Gayer than humming Karma Chameleon in the steam room while reading Guns and Ammo.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 17, 2010, 11:45:10 AM
He was 26 years old and it was apparently an ENGLARGED HEART.....Here we go :-X
All drugs wiggs all drugs
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2010, 11:47:25 AM
CHICAGO BEARS

(http://www.bearotic.com/img/2009/11/bear-party-chicago-elf-december-12.jpg)
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Wiggs on January 17, 2010, 11:49:21 AM
CHICAGO BEARS

(http://www.bearotic.com/img/2009/11/bear-party-chicago-elf-december-12.jpg)

What, THE HELL :o :-X
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on January 17, 2010, 11:51:21 AM
CHICAGO BEARS

(http://www.bearotic.com/img/2009/11/bear-party-chicago-elf-december-12.jpg)
;D
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2010, 11:51:49 AM
CHICAGO BEARS!!!


(http://thecompletebear.com/BearBones/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Bear-party-Chicago.jpg)
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 17, 2010, 11:52:07 AM
Too bad he didn`t pay attention to the BMI.  Perhaps his heart would not have had to compensate for the increased body size.



Coursey later said an autopsy had been conducted in Anderson and concluded that Adams died of cardiac arrest. "They already opened him up and looked at it," Coursey said, saying the autopsy was completed just after 12.30 p.m. Coursey added that Adams had an enlarged heart.

That tells me ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Just about everyone us on here who trains with weights, plays sports, does cardio with any intensity has an enlarged heart. By your theory we should all be dead. Just because an athlete goes through a successful physical (pro's tend to have the most extensive screening) doesn't mean there is not something underlying. I'm not saying this is the here because 26 is too young but you never know.

The studies you provided and from what little I've read IS NOT from the physical activity from the sport it self but rather from not controlling their weight and realizing the ramifications AFTER retirement. I have a good friend that played in the NFL for 6 years who was 6'1 260ish and we discussed this and basically came to the same conclusion that when retired they didn't really know how to take care of themselves in the way if staying healthy. They were healthy during their careers because they were kept in check by league guidlines, but when it was over it was over. It was ultimately up to them to stay healthy.

BTW, this friend of mine is now down to about 230-40lbs healthy and has an extremely successful organization helping kids.

http://www.californiasportshalloffame.org/induction-events/induction-golf/index.php

http://www.okoyefoundation.org/

One of these days TA, you will realize that athletics is a huge driving force in the success and development in kids.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2010, 11:52:38 AM
(http://www.bearotic.com/img/2009/08/bear-party-chicago-cowboy.jpg)
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Wiggs on January 17, 2010, 11:53:30 AM
Adam you're working overtime today.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 17, 2010, 11:55:32 AM
Television watching.  What type of programming is watched by the largest number of people any given week?

Any kid involved in a sport or multiple sports is NOT at home watching TV. During the week they are practicing and/or playing games and on the weekends it's games. If they are not, I blame the parents for letting their kids get like that. PERIOD!
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2010, 11:56:01 AM
Adam you're working overtime today.
Indeed.  Arm day is about an hour or so away.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on January 17, 2010, 11:56:55 AM
Just trying to stir things up a bit.  This place has been quite the bore for far too long.  Time to bring it back to its original glory.


Well you're doing a bang up job that's for sure.  Just don't destroy it like we did Mayhem...I actually like this place.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 17, 2010, 11:57:26 AM
What happened to these days?
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2010, 11:57:51 AM
Any kid involved in a sport or multiple sports is NOT at home watching TV. During the week they are practicing and/or playing games and on the weekends it's games. If they are not, I blame the parents for letting their kids get like that. PERIOD!
I feel sorry for those children.  At what time are they reading or doing anything where they have to think critically?
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 17, 2010, 11:58:45 AM
I feel sorry for those children.  At what time are they reading or doing anything where they have to think critically?

Academics always comes first, then play.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2010, 12:01:19 PM
Academics always comes first, then play.
Great.  At least you are reinforcing to them that the world is only 6000 years old and that Jesus got to third base with his apostles.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 17, 2010, 12:02:06 PM
Academics always comes first, then play.
In a perfect world coach but we know it doesnt exist in 2010
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 17, 2010, 12:08:08 PM
In a perfect world coach but we know it doesnt exist in 2010

Rediculous. Anyone who has should have a schedule when kids study and play, schools have certain grade point averages that the student must maintain to play a sport. I personally tells my athletes that they must maintain at least a 3.0 to be in our program. Schools vary, some 3.0. some 2.5 and some even as low 2.0. At my sons school he has to maintain a 3.0.

NCAA only allows 20hrs of practice including the S&C per week.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 17, 2010, 12:09:46 PM
Rediculous. Anyone who has should have a schedule when kids study and play, schools have certain grade point averages that the student must maintain to play a sport. I personally tells my athletes that they must maintain at least a 3.0 to be in our program. Schools vary, some 3.0. some 2.5 and some even as low 2.0. At my sons school he has to maintain a 3.0.

NCAA only allows 20hrs of practice including the S&C per week.
Is this at Florida State - Bowden is gone
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: bigdumbbell on January 17, 2010, 12:10:06 PM
i didnt read 3 pages but i suspect he was smoking pure crack and his heart blew up
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 17, 2010, 12:10:55 PM
Is this at Florida State - Bowden is gone

This applies to the entire NCAA.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2010, 12:13:24 PM
i didnt read 3 pages but i suspect he was smoking pure crack and his heart blew up
He surely isn`t the first gay man to have his heart explode after cheating on his boyfriend with another crack.  

BrokeBlack Mountain: Bear in the Woods
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 17, 2010, 12:22:37 PM
I love it when TA gets owned in threads he always blasts back with some retarded answer..hahaha.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: doison on January 17, 2010, 06:32:35 PM
HOCM/IHSS....unless it was drugs, that is.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Matt C on January 17, 2010, 08:47:37 PM
What about 46 y/o?

The_Coach?  ???
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Doug_Steele on January 17, 2010, 09:00:28 PM
I believe that he could have been saved if he was at Greenville Memorial.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Doug_Steele on January 17, 2010, 09:15:39 PM
i didnt read 3 pages but i suspect he was smoking pure crack and his heart blew up

He was a quiet kid in Class at Clemson but you never know. I would have a hard time believing that he would live the Lin Bias lifestyle.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: bigdumbbell on January 17, 2010, 09:18:46 PM
He was a quiet kid in Class at Clemson but you never know. I would have a hard time believing that he would live the Lin Bias lifestyle.
we'll see what the "topsy" reports
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Doug_Steele on January 17, 2010, 09:21:48 PM
If they did the autopsy correctly, they would probably also find an Engorged butthole.  Gayer than humming Karma Chameleon in the steam room while reading Guns and Ammo.

You sure do have a thing for the Male Butthole?? Hell, i guess track is also Gay.  :D Anything that involves Football, Baseball, Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, Etc,....is Gay.  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2010, 09:23:02 PM
You sure do have a thing for the Male Butthole?? Hell, i guess track is also Gay.  :D Anything that involves Football, Baseball, Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, Etc,....is Gay.  ::) ::)
Its only gay if you want it to be.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: marty31672 on January 17, 2010, 09:24:56 PM
this is such heartbreaking news  :-[

it just goes to show you that this isnt a fare world we live in
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: bigdumbbell on January 17, 2010, 09:30:05 PM
this is such heartbreaking news  :-[

it just goes to show you that this isnt a fare world we live in
what does your wife think of that?
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: The True Adonis on January 17, 2010, 09:33:38 PM
what does your wife think of that?
Probably jealous of his man-love and refuses to do the dishes instead gorging herself into obesity on Bon-Bons as she watches the Lifetime Network wishing for a life she will never ever have.
Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: Doug_Steele on January 17, 2010, 09:34:33 PM
what does your wife think of that?

She is thinking about a divorce.  :D

Title: Re: Chicago Bears Gains Adams dead @ 26
Post by: brent2741 on January 17, 2010, 09:36:21 PM
cardiomegaly is a condition you would never now you had until you had symptoms of one and they took a chest x-ray to confirm, unfortunetly chest x-rays arent standard when physicals are performed on NFL players and one of the main side effects of these things are cardiac arrest