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If any getbiggers were to throw around their spare pocket change which one would you get? The new BMW 335iS which is the touted as "the missing link" to the M3 or the M3.
http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/01/25/interview-dr-oetker-and-the-bmw-m3335is-dilemma/ (http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/01/25/interview-dr-oetker-and-the-bmw-m3335is-dilemma/)
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If any getbiggers were to throw around their spare pocket change which one would get. The new BMW 335iS which is the touted as "the missing link" to the M3 or the M3.
http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/01/25/interview-dr-oetker-and-the-bmw-m3335is-dilemma/ (http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/01/25/interview-dr-oetker-and-the-bmw-m3335is-dilemma/)
The M3..... it will have a better resale value ;D
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a jaguar with a spacious trunk.
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a jaguar with a spacious trunk.
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Titus approved
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If any getbiggers were to throw around their spare pocket change which one would you get? The new BMW 335iS which is the touted as "the missing link" to the M3 or the M3.
http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/01/25/interview-dr-oetker-and-the-bmw-m3335is-dilemma/ (http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/01/25/interview-dr-oetker-and-the-bmw-m3335is-dilemma/)
I love BMW but I would not buy an M3 (and I have a 3 series). As a practical matter, (in the USA) you are not going to have many opportunities to go all out in that car and really enjoy what it has to offer. So, in effect you spending a lot of money for something that you are not going to get to use. Better to get a regular 3 or a 3 with a DINAN upgrade and pocket the difference. You will still come out way ahead of buying a M3.
And don’t worry, the regular 3 has plenty of power. I used to drag race in mine and almost always won. I have gone 130mph in my 328ci.
I have driven the M3 and, yes, it is a super car, but in my view it makes more sense to get a 3 or 3 with a DINAN upgrade and use the difference to buy yourself another toy. Of course, if you literally have money to burn and are a serious 'car guy' then go ahead and get the M3. It's certainly a handsome car!
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I love BMW but I would not buy an M3 (and I have a 3 series). As a practical matter, (in the USA) you are not going to have many opportunities to go all out in that car and really enjoy what it has to offer. So, in effect you spending a lot of money for something that you are not going to get to use. Better to get a regular 3 or a 3 with a DINAN upgrade and pocket the difference. You will still come out way ahead of buying a M3.
And don’t worry, the regular 3 has plenty of power. I used to drag race in mine and almost always won. I have gone 130mph in my 328ci.
I have driven the M3 and, yes, it is a super car, but in my view it makes more sense to get a 3 or 3 with a DINAN upgrade and use the difference to buy yourself another toy. Of course, if you literally have money to burn and are a serious 'car guy' then go ahead and get the M3. It's certainly a handsome car!
So outside the USA there are more opportunities to go all out? Right....like everyone who has a high performance ride in Europe goes to Germany to drive on the autobahn.
I've ridden in a 3 series beemer and an M5. I'm assuming M3 has similar power to M3? I don't know if the main difference is that M3 is a coupe?
ANyways, M5 was a fucking beast. Go for the M3!
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Neither ;D
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Both are good options!!!
But I would go with IS-F. ;D
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I love BMW but I would not buy an M3 (and I have a 3 series). As a practical matter, (in the USA) you are not going to have many opportunities to go all out in that car and really enjoy what it has to offer. So, in effect you spending a lot of money for something that you are not going to get to use. Better to get a regular 3 or a 3 with a DINAN upgrade and pocket the difference. You will still come out way ahead of buying a M3.
And don’t worry, the regular 3 has plenty of power. I used to drag race in mine and almost always won. I have gone 130mph in my 328ci.
I have driven the M3 and, yes, it is a super car, but in my view it makes more sense to get a 3 or 3 with a DINAN upgrade and use the difference to buy yourself another toy. Of course, if you literally have money
to burn and are a serious 'car guy' then go ahead and get the M3. It's certainly a handsome car!
You and Pluck have good points to bring up
that is why they (BMW) have created the 335iS as a link or stepping stone to the M3. It is tuned by The M Division, whereas the M3 is built by The M Division---a direct product. The 335iS uses a turbo'd Inline 6, and the M3 a high revving 4.0 liter V8. Curiously the Inline has more torque than the M3.
Actually XFactor, you must remember than many of us don't have the funds to get a Lambo Gallardo. But there is a reason why many people take the M3 as a track day weapon or why the 24 hour Nurburgring race has hordes of race prepped M3s and Porsche Turbos, and a reason why BMW M Division has a test facility at that track. And that is becuase it is, when prepared, one of the best track cars, for the racer and everyday enthusiast. Far more so than the hyper Exotic Gallardo (except for the Balboni Edition).
Pretty much the E30 set the standard, and what you have now is basically a Ferrari with 4 seats, trunk, lux goodies, for over 1/3 the price. In fact the current m3 coupe is faster than the Ferrari 360 Modena, one of the most beautiful Ferraris (V8 or V12).
But, this was a question on which one you'd get so you did answer that. ;D
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Dont waste your money, get an American car like a Chevy Vet. More bang for your buck!
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BMWs should not have turbos, just pure power. They are like a combination of the old American muscle cars and the Japanese race cars, some torque and some top end, not just one of the 2 + they handle very well.
Straight 6 ftw
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Both are good options!!!
But I would go with IS-F. ;D
Between the two an M3 hands down - turbochargers on 335 and overheating issues are troubling to me. The M3 has more street cred and better resale plus cosmetically is better looking. Naturally aspirated wins over turbo'd most times IMO.
BUT - I agree with the above post. My money would buy the IS-F if only for superior reliability and less headache to live with on a day to day basis. I have read in several long term tests though that the IS-F has a brutal suspension that is punishing on anything less than perfect pavement.
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335i $42,200
335is $50,525
M3 $58,400
Like I said, get the 335i and use the $16,200 difference to treat yourself to another toy/vacation, etc.
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335i $42,200
335is $50,525
M3 $58,400
Like I said, get the 335i and use the $16,200 difference to treat yourself to another toy/vacation, etc.
yeah, get the biggest 3 series without a turbo, will definitely not be slow or boring.
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Here is some nice BMWs: http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/06/09/the-bmw-cruise-bike/
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Here is some nice BMWs: http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/06/09/the-bmw-cruise-bike/
terrible
(http://www.racmonolites.com/cars/3.jpg)
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s249/Driverx666/TK230.jpg)
(http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/velocity/vb3/easm3gmcsl_052707.jpg)
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yeah, get the biggest 3 series without a turbo, will definitely not be slow or boring.
The 328i and the M3 don't have turbos. The new 335i will have the single turbo engine, the 335iS will have the tt inline 6, the one with the HPFP problems.
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Ask Goatboy what he'd take for his used 5-series.
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2011 BMW 335is Coupe - First Drive Review
Minding the gap—between the 335i and the M3, that is.
To fill the gap in the 3-series lineup between the 300-hp 335i and 414-hp M3, BMW is introducing the 2011 335is coupe and convertible. We were unaware that said gap needed to be filled, but we’re told that the 335i is seen in the U.S. as just an ordinary 3-series, and as such, there’s room for something more exotic than a 335i but less outlandish than an M3. Now that we’ve been given the chance to drive the 335is coupe, we’re coming around to accepting this whole gap idea.
Conceptually similar to the 330i Performance package model that was available as part of the previous-generation 3-series lineup, the 335is doesn’t go so far as to threaten the M3’s supremacy, but it definitely ups the sportiness quotient. To that end, the 335is gets 320 hp and 332 lb-ft torque from the twin-turbo 3.0-liter inline-six engine, and an overboost function allows for seven-second blasts of 370 lb-ft of torque. Unlike the regular-grade 2011 335i, the 335is sticks with the older twin-turbo engine for the simple reason that BMW engineers had more experience tuning it. This same engine can also be found in the Z4 sDrive35is that was introduced at this month’s Detroit auto show. In the Z4, the engine makes 335 hp; a more restrictive intake on the 3-series accounts for the 15-hp difference.
To make the 335is a track-worthy vehicle, BMW upgrades the cooling system with an additional radiator and beefs up the engine mounts. Inside are standard sport seats, steel pedals, an M Sport steering wheel, and textured aluminum trim. Between the seats sits the familiar six-speed manual, but it’s modified here to have shorter throws. For those who prefer not to shift for themselves, BMW is offering its seven-speed dual-clutch gearbox. The DCT system is identical to the one in the M3 and comes with steering-wheel-mounted paddle-type shifters... http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/car/10q1/2011_bmw_335is_coupe-first_drive_review
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Get a 335i and a chip. My brother has that and his car is pretty damn quick. Nice overall car. I like it better then my Cayman S.
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For bodybuilding related purposes?... Escalade on dubs!
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Get a 335i and a chip. My brother has that and his car is pretty damn quick. Nice overall car. I like it better then my Cayman S.
Better if you put a Quaife LSD in it, along with the chip. Makes no sense to have 400 hp and One Wheel drive, the BMW Z8 had problems because it lacked a LSD.
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Better if you put a Quaife LSD in it, along with the chip. Makes no sense to have 400 hp and One Wheel drive, the BMW Z8 had problems because it lacked a LSD.
No sport(y) car should ever be sold without an LSD, it's retarded.
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No sport(y) car should ever be sold without an LSD, it's retarded.
Funny and odd, BMW does it with it's 3 and 5 series, even the 550i (Only The M models comes with a standard LSD--called M diff.),and Porsche did it with the Cayman S, but now they have given it a LSD. My IS300 comes standard with one.
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Better if you put a Quaife LSD in it, along with the chip. Makes no sense to have 400 hp and One Wheel drive, the BMW Z8 had problems because it lacked a LSD.
My bros never really had an issue. His car went 12.6 with just the chip. Not too shabby. My Cayman on the other hand sucks. Major wheelhop from the irs.
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Depends on what you want, an all out high rev V-8 without much torque or a car that is highly tunable, better on gas, and more torque. Not to mention cheaper.
Base prices don't mean shit as we know these cars pretty much loaded you are looking at 72K for the M3 and high 50's, low 60's for the 335IS. Plus you now get the DCT trans on the IS now.
Tough choice, but if I could go back I'll get the 335IS. No regrets though however.
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My bros never really had an issue. His car went 12.6 with just the chip. Not too shabby. My Cayman on the other hand sucks. Major wheelhop from the irs.
You know Porsche doesn't want the 911's baby brother to upstage it? The midengine placement is ideal, and Porsche knows this. Does yours have the LSD in it, or is it the one without it? But Purists want the Rear engine design, even though it hinders the car. I have driven the 911 before, and it is kinda odd, even with the driving aids.
A friend of mine has the 330i (E90), and does complain about the lack of LSD. Im guessing the lack of one with 400 hp, when doing spirited driving or track work will play havoc with the E-diff, like it did with the 135i I test drove (spiritedly :D).
Ryan, what do you think about the new 5 series.
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Never understood why Americans love the 3 series. M3's and 335's etc are pricey, not fast, small, ugly(to me and everyone I know at least), uncomfortable and cost more than they should with maintenance.
Buy an Evo or a Subaru.
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Never understood why Americans love the 3 series. M3's and 335's etc are pricey, not fast, small, ugly(to me and everyone I know at least), uncomfortable and cost more than they should with maintenance.
Buy an Evo or a Subaru.
It comes down to what you are used to as well. The M3, as you know is a lux based sports car, that has gotten fat over the years. It's still got a lot of lux. But it offers 911 pace and track performance for less money.
The 3 series itself (and 5 series) was the darling of the 1980's yuppies, it was the "made it" car. Those were the cars that yuppies that were doctors and lawyers got. And there it has stayed, and it has "snob appeal".
Plus, the Evo's have a bad maintenance history, the previous gens. I know of dudes with Evo 9's that complain about them. And they are too boy racer-ish. You don't look right taking your girlfriend to a nice restaurant with a bright blue or red four door sedan that has a huge wing on the back. But they handle like crazy due to that AWD. I like the Scoobies better, especially in matte black.
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You know Porsche doesn't want the 911's baby brother to upstage it? The midengine placement is ideal, and Porsche knows this. Does yours have the LSD in it, or is it the one without it? But Purists want the Rear engine design, even though it hinders the car. I have driven the 911 before, and it is kinda odd, even with the driving aids.
A friend of mine has the 330i (E90), and does complain about the lack of LSD. Im guessing the lack of one with 400 hp, when doing spirited driving or track work will play havoc with the E-diff, like it did with the 135i I test drove (spiritedly :D).
Ryan, what do you think about the new 5 series.
Overall I like the car, looks very good! My only gripe is that BMW's are starting to look the same now from 5 to 3 to 7. Just like how the Audis look from A4, A5, A6, A8, etc...
They use to look interesting, not that I like the Bangle era better, but I think it had originality,sure the looks were outrageous from the 02 7 series to the E60 5's, but they were "daring." Now I think BMW is playing it safe in terms of styling and entering a more conservative approach.
In terms of new cars are concerned I would say I like the styling of the Audis better overall. I love the A4, S4 styling and think the lights from the rear to the front LED strip to be brilliant. But at the same time IMO, they don't have the masculine look as say a Mercedes or a bimmer.
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Overall I like the car, looks very good! My only gripe is that BMW's are starting to look the same now from 5 to 3 to 7. Just like how the Audis look from A4, A5, A6, A8, etc...
They use to look interesting, not that I like the Bangle era better, but I think it had originality,sure the looks were outrageous from the 02 7 series to the E60 5's, but they were "daring." Now I think BMW is playing it safe in terms of styling and entering a more conservative approach.
In terms of new cars are concerned I would say I like the styling of the Audis better overall. I love the A4, S4 styling and think the lights from the rear to the front LED strip to be brilliant. But at the same time IMO, they don't have the masculine look as say a Mercedes or a bimmer.
So you think that the 5 is just a smaller sausage of the 7? :) Just like the Audi's, which all look the same, especially from the back (except the R8).
I too agree, BMW is playing it safe, especially after the outrage of the last gen 7 series, which was the best selling 7 series of all time.
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Dont waste your money, get an American car like a Chevy Vet. More bang for your buck!
qft. unless of course u have self esteem issues then go ahead and buy a foreign car
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The M3..... it will have a better resale value ;D
Man over here you can get M3's cheap enough now,second hand like
Was looking to buy one last November but I wouldnt get enough time to enjoy it
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qft. unless of course u have self esteem issues then go ahead and buy a foreign car
Vettes are good, but their interiors suck, and they smell like glue, especially on a hot day. But they are the best bang for your buck, especially the Z06 and ZR1.
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It comes down to what you are used to as well. The M3, as you know is a lux based sports car, that has gotten fat over the years. It's still got a lot of lux. But it offers 911 pace and track performance for less money.
The 3 series itself (and 5 series) was the darling of the 1980's yuppies, it was the "made it" car. Those were the cars that yuppies that were doctors and lawyers got. And there it has stayed, and it has "snob appeal".
Plus, the Evo's have a bad maintenance history, the previous gens. I know of dudes with Evo 9's that complain about them. And they are too boy racer-ish. You don't look right taking your girlfriend to a nice restaurant with a bright blue or red four door sedan that has a huge wing on the back. But they handle like crazy due to that AWD. I like the Scoobies better, especially in matte black.
Good assessment!! :D
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So you think that the 5 is just a smaller sausage of the 7? :) Just like the Audi's, which all look the same, especially from the back (except the R8).
I too agree, BMW is playing it safe, especially after the outrage of the last gen 7 series, which was the best selling 7 series of all time.
Exactly, doesn't mean they don't look good though, just the same, different lengths :)
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Exactly, doesn't mean they don't look good though, just the same, different lengths :)
That Audi S8 in "Taken" was the shit, I have to admit that.
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I found your car Parker 400HP ;D
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I found your car Parker 400HP ;D
Yes, I've always like the 135i. That is tight as hell. The rims and the matte grey paint scheme look well together, but at the same time it looks unpainted.
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Yes, I've always like the 135i. That is tight as hell. The rims and the matte grey paint scheme look well together, but at the same time it looks unpainted.
$35K http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/automobiles-sale/199929-bmw-135i-hre-jic-flat-gray-400hp-pocket-rocket.html
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$35K http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/automobiles-sale/199929-bmw-135i-hre-jic-flat-gray-400hp-pocket-rocket.html
They should have waited to buy this. It's the rumored 1 series M model. Performance equal or better to what that 135i is putting out. Plus, he's not gonna get 35k for that.
http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/10/13/could-this-be-a-bmw-1-series-supersport-prototype/ (http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/10/13/could-this-be-a-bmw-1-series-supersport-prototype/)
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They should have waited to buy this. It's the rumored 1 series M model. Performance equal or better to what that 135i is putting out. Plus, he's not gonna get 35k for that.
http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/10/13/could-this-be-a-bmw-1-series-supersport-prototype/ (http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/10/13/could-this-be-a-bmw-1-series-supersport-prototype/)
Or the one that started it all
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Or the one that started it all
Noboy is giving those up.
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Noboy is giving those up.
I took that pic at a Italian car show at the Lars Anderson museum. I was talking to the owner and I said " I've never seen an M1 in person " and he told me he's only seen one other one himself in the US awesome to see one live and in person.
He commented on the fact that it wasn't an Italian car but I guess he knew the promoter of the show and he thought a lot of people would enjoy seeing it , surprisingly he drove it to the show and didn't have it trucked in.
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I took that pic at a Italian car show at the Lars Anderson museum. I was talking to the owner and I said " I've never seen an M1 in person " and he told me he's only seen one other one himself in the US awesome to see one live and in person.
He commented on the fact that it wasn't an Italian car but I guess he knew the promoter of the show and he thought a lot of people would enjoy seeing it , surprisingly he drove it to the show and didn't have it trucked in.
One of my friends from college was hugely into cars. His brother owned a BMW shop in Silver Spring, MD. He had a pic of a M1 being turbo-charged to 500+ hp.
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Ask goatboy's Mother.
THE BEEF
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Speaking of BMW's, I saw the new XM5, it was white and looks sweeeeeet!
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Speaking of BMW's, I saw the new XM5, it was white and looks sweeeeeet!
yes,,,,and the mx6 i work for a dealer they are sick,and the 5 series crossover looks like a smaller x6.new 7 seres has great look from rear,kinda like a lexus..u can touch any bmw under 4o,ooo,even a loaded 1 series with 300 hp will run mid to upper 40,ooo's.great cars ,great warranty ,when that all runs out be prepared to shell out to keep it right.
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Today I wish I had an M3. I was in a three way drag race for about 30 miles today and I got smoked by a supped up Orange Mustang and a Red Dodge. >:( :'( >:( :'(
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Today I wish I had an M3. I was in a three way drag race for about 30 miles today and I got smoked by a supped up Orange Mustang and a Red Dodge. >:( :'( >:( :'(
A chipped 335 would do better than an M3, much more torque :D 30 miles???
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A chipped 335 would do better than an M3, much more torque :D 30 miles???
It was a 50 miles stretch, but we only raced on and off for about 30 miles of it. I wouldn't go above 120--especially since there were other cars on the road. In any case, their tricked out rides put me to shame. I won't recover. :'(
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It was a 50 miles stretch, but we only raced on and off for about 30 miles of it. I wouldn't go above 120--especially since there were other cars on the road. In any case, their tricked out rides put me to shame. I won't recover. :'(
Was it a Hemi Dodge those fucking engines still rule after all the years.
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Was it a Hemi Dodge those fucking engines still rule after all the years.
It was one of these... same color, but it was tricked out with a lot of custom paint and the windows were the darkest tint I'd ever seen: totally black! And the sound of that muffler: Groooowwwl! I only knew it was a guy because he eventually stuck his hand out the window to waive goodbye at the end of the race. 8)
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It was one of these... same color, but it was tricked out with a lot of custom paint and the windows were the darkest tint I'd ever seen: totally black! And the sound of that muffler: Groooowwwl! I only knew it was a guy because he eventually stuck his hand out the window to waive goodbye at the end of the race. 8)
A bad ride there BAY it had to hurt hearing that Growl go by you....
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A bad ride there BAY it had to hurt hearing that Growl go by you....
Actually, I was impressed! It sounded great if not a bit too loud. He creamed me on the straight aways, but my car had better handling for turns and lane changes. :D
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Actually, I was impressed! It sounded great if not a bit too loud. He creamed me on the straight aways, but my car had better handling for turns and lane changes. :D
There you go raw Hemi power bro handling dont mean shit to Dodge
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There you go raw Hemi power bro handling dont mean shit to Dodge
Well I have a bigger dick! So there! :D
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Well I have a bigger dick! So there! :D
LMAO ;D
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Hmm, Promising
http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/02/05/more-details-on-the-bmw-m1-design/ (http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/02/05/more-details-on-the-bmw-m1-design/)
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Beamers are nice but too overdone. I'd go with a Cadillac or Mercedes
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Beamers are nice but too overdone. I'd go with a Cadillac or Mercedes
Cadillac's are trouble, Mercedes yes. I got a BMW engine and drive train are good but windows, lights and accessories suck.