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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: kyomu on February 22, 2010, 02:05:43 PM
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Already very hard.
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I sure didnt look like that when i was 23!
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I sure didnt look like that when i was 23!
This is one of the reason why i recomend everybody to be natural.
Its not the matter of dose. Its a matter of genetic.
If you dont look like this within 5 or 6 years after starting lifting, absolutely no use to do the gears.
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a real machine, got any more pics of him young ?
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This is one of the reason why i recomend everybody to be natural.
Its not the matter of dose. Its a matter of genetic.
If you dont look like this within 5 or 6 years after starting lifting, absolutely no use to do the gears.
How can a guy like you even look in the mirror.....
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How can a guy like you even look in the mirror.....
Sorry,I dont get it.
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How can a guy like you even look in the mirror.....
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;D ;D
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Already very hard.
all natural?
please..
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all natural?
please..
Nah. ;D
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kyomu is either very stupid or a liar
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This is one of the reason why i recomend everybody to be natural.
Its not the matter of dose. Its a matter of genetic.
If you dont look like this within 5 or 6 years after starting lifting, absolutely no use to do the gears.
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you understand hes fucking juiced to the MAX in this photo and has been for years?
so your correct post would be "If you dont look like this after a few years of heavy dosages then stop"
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you understand hes fucking juiced to the MAX in this photo and has been for years?
so your correct post would be "If you dont look like this after a few years of heavy dosages then stop"
Juicer hypocrits love to act stupid, not taking into consideration that not everyone else is as stupid as they're trying to act.
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impressive but he has bad genetics for pro bodybuilding... wide waist, strange pec shape, but he does come in shredded and big
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kyomu is either very stupid or a liar
or both, gotta be very stupid to lie about this
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i don't think kyomu is saying he is natural here but is saying that when you start up on the gear if you don't respond fast like paco did then forget about being a pro...
am i right kyomu?
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Already very hard.
Looks awesome but hasn't really progressed in the right ways since then
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Paco started injecting Test at birth.
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kyomu is either very stupid or a liar
X2
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Already very hard.
Bro , he's been juicing at least 5 years in that pic..ask him when he started gear?
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This is one of the reason why i recomend everybody to be natural.
Its not the matter of dose. Its a matter of genetic.
If you dont look like this within 5 or 6 years after starting lifting, absolutely no use to do the gears.
you are either clueless, joking, ridiculously naive or the biggest liar.
you actually made me laugh
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This is one of the reason why i recomend everybody to be natural.
Its not the matter of dose. Its a matter of genetic.
If you dont look like this within 5 or 6 years after starting lifting, absolutely no use to do the gears.
Um, about 1% of the population looks like that at only 23 WITH juice. Nobody looks like that without, not even Paco.
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Wrong, Paco is 100% natural in that picture. I seen a lot of Spanish nattys get like that eating a lot -- I mean A LOT -- of Serrano ham.
Paco took it to the natural limit before juicing and he is just hard eating and hard, heavy training in that pic.
As a pro he has the genetics and intensity to be like that without drugs. The drugs are not really that important. They are just the finishing touch. Don't overestimate their power.
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Wrong, Paco is 100% natural in that picture. I seen a lot of Spanish nattys get like that eating a lot -- I mean A LOT -- of Serrano ham.
Paco took it to the natural limit before juicing and he is just hard eating and hard, heavy training in that pic.
As a pro he has the genetics and intensity to be like that without drugs. The drugs are not really that important. They are just the finishing touch. Don't overestimate their power.
:D :D
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I guess juice doesn't work on Paco then cause he looks better there than he does now
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I think kyomu's broken english meant he was juicing and within the first few years he looked like that...
Of course I could be wrong.
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steroids or not... that is insane for 23 years old.
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I think kyomu's broken english meant he was juicing and within the first few years he looked like that...
Of course I could be wrong.
that's what I think he meant. Paco is probably still pulling his chain in regards to when he started and how much he first took though.
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steroids or not... that is insane for 23 years old.
X2
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his waist was huge and deformed at 23
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Already very hard.
All 15-course degustations at El Bulli
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How can you misunderstand this?
If you dont look like this within 5 or 6 years after starting lifting, absolutely no use to do the gears.
He's saying you shouldn't do gear unless you look like this after 5 years of lifting. He didn't say 5-6 years of heavy heavy juicing.
Paco there is bigger there than a number of pros, even very successful ones. Even some Mr Olympias. I guess all these other pros juiced in vain because they just don't have the genetics. ::)
What a retard. All pine and soy sauce.
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He liked the fact that Paco was already hard...
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How can you misunderstand this?
He's saying you shouldn't do gear unless you look like this after 5 years of lifting. He didn't say 5-6 years of heavy heavy juicing.
Paco there is bigger there than a number of pros, even very successful ones. Even some Mr Olympias. I guess all these other pros juiced in vain because they just don't have the genetics. ::)
What a retard. All pine and soy sauce.
I agree enough is enough with the Kyomu bullshit he is getting to the non-return point of the delusionite
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I agree enough is enough with the Kyomu bullshit he is getting to the non-return point of the delusionite
I am not saying that he was natural.
Just I say, if you use regular cycle of andorogenic hormone and steroid and you dont look like this,its a waisting time.
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you understand hes fucking juiced to the MAX in this photo and has been for years?
so your correct post would be "If you dont look like this after a few years of heavy dosages then stop"
Yes. Also correct.
But in this stage, he used almost nothing, and looked like this.
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All drugs.
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Paco looked 2 times better than the fucker "big" dan hill (same age)
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Bro , he's been juicing at least 5 years in that pic..ask him when he started gear?
Yes. But not heavy.
Using heavy from the beginning is very stupid.
You must go light as possible and after getting graudaly heavy.
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Yes. Also correct.
But in this stage, he used almost nothing, and looked like this.
That's just what Paco says. No pros give their real dosages. He's taking at least double what he told you.
I know a couple IFBB pros and they're more honest than Paco. He's got a pharmacy worth of drugs coursing through his veins despite whatever he's lying to you about. I know that my friends lie too but I'm not naive and know when someones lying.
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That's just what Paco says. No pros give their real dosages. He's taking at least double what he told you.
I know a couple IFBB pros and they're more honest than Paco. He's got a pharmacy worth of drugs coursing through his veins despite whatever he's lying to you about. I know that my friends lie too but I'm not naive and know when someones lying.
You dont know how we are close friend.
I know and see it everyday.
I am with him almost all day.We help each other about our daily life problem too.
For our friend ship,bbing is only one aspect.
Even one of the Pacos family works at my factory.
His wife also help a lot.
So still he must lie to me for this stupid drug matter?
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kyomu is either very stupid or a liar
AND full of shit.
impressive at 23 though... :o
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You dont know how we are close friend.
I know and see it everyday.
I am with him almost all day.We help each other about our daily life problem too.
For our friend ship,bbing is only one aspect.
Even one of the Pacos family works at my factory.
His wife also help a lot.
So still he must lie to me for this stupid drug matter?
Are you the bottom in the relationship?
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You dont know how we are close friend.
I know and see it everyday.
I am with him almost all day.We help each other about our daily life problem too.
For our friend ship,bbing is only one aspect.
Even one of the Pacos family works at my factory.
His wife also help a lot.
So still he must lie to me for this stupid drug matter?
Yes, he still lies, Kyomu. I respect you but you are naive. You are with him a lot of the time but you're not there when he's swabbing up, drawing his gear and injecting it. You don't see the copious amount of drugs he uses. I am good friends with plenty of juicers and I can tell you but the more competitive one is, the more he will lie.
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Yes, he still lies, Kyomu. I respect you but you are naive. You are with him a lot of the time but you're not there when he's swabbing up, drawing his gear and injecting it. You don't see the copious amount of drugs he uses. I am good friends with plenty of juicers and I can tell you but the more competitive one is, the more he will lie.
Yes I am and i see it. ;)
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(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/massturbater/attachment-60.jpg?t=1266922615)
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How can you misunderstand this?
He's saying you shouldn't do gear unless you look like this after 5 years of lifting. He didn't say 5-6 years of heavy heavy juicing.
Paco there is bigger there than a number of pros, even very successful ones. Even some Mr Olympias. I guess all these other pros juiced in vain because they just don't have the genetics. ::)
What a retard. All pine and soy sauce.
So much for your interpretation of what he was saying.
I still think Paco is telling him less than what he was on though.
Bbers and drugs are like girls and their number of former lovers... they always divide the truth by 3.
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So much for your interpretation of what he was saying.
I still think Paco is telling him less than what he was on though.
Bbers and drugs are like girls and their number of former lovers... they always divide the truth by 3.
You are very right.
99% of bbers are like that.
But I didnt say 100%.
Its up to you if what i am saying is truth or not.
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kyomu is a fuckin dumbass
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kyomu is a fuckin dumbass
yea, he "thinks" that Paco tells him EVERYTHING about his personal life. It doesnt matter how many year they know each other, a profession is a profession and Paco is not that stupid to reveal everything in his life to "kyomu", because he has him as his training partner and eat together everyday.
Heck even me, and imagine that im nothing in bbing, just 2 shows on my belt. dont tell even my closest friends, known for YEARS, what am i doing and not only in bbing i mean even in my personal life.
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at 23, he looked AWESOME though. meant to be a pro. doesnt matter about his structure. He has a cool structure imo. freak..
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His physique ranks right up there with Dorian's - UGLY!
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just goes to show how good the elite guys are. Paco has great genetics but even so has done nothing as a pro.
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His physique ranks right up there with Dorian's - UGLY!
Yates had a great physique early in his pro career.
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Yes. Also correct.
But in this stage, he used almost nothing, and looked like this.
Please shut up.....please
You Paco guy......yes, we get it, you love the guy.....but he almost used nothing?....oh f'ck up please!
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This is one of the reason why i recomend everybody to be natural.
Its not the matter of dose. Its a matter of genetic.
If you dont look like this within 5 or 6 years after starting lifting, absolutely no use to do the gears.
agree, most juicers dont even look like a dedicated natural with average genetics. i know that most juicers are lazy bitches too who think that it works on his own but you can see pretty fast if some of them have it or not.
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kyomu is 5150
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Yes. Also correct.
But in this stage, he used almost nothing, and looked like this.
Funny that he doesn't look much different mega dosing.... ::)
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Already very hard.
Damn! He was a sexy MF even back then! :D
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Funny that he doesn't look much different mega dosing.... ::)
haha true, but maybe he isnt MEGA dosing, using high dose yes but not too much, he still look healthy and still has hair. kyomu, you should ask him exactly what dosage he took back then and what hes using now and tell us!
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So much for your interpretation of what he was saying.
I knew of course that this is not what he really thought. The way he put it was retarded and not logical and condescending. The way he put it was not what he thought and knew, but reveals his thought process.
His silly rules about when drug use is justified and "worth it" are funny considering his "extensive philosophy background", etc. :D He's not very sophisticated on that front.
I'd like to see him explain how steroid use is justified in Paco's case and not in a recreational bodybuilder's or lower level competitor's for example. Some might even say Kyomu is stupid competing natural and placing last in shows and eating pine and 2 kilos of fish a day just to stand sideways leaning on one leg in all his pics. He should give it up! :D
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why is kyumo natural anyway?
if i was training with a pro i'd want some cheap milligrams thrown my way for sure!