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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/02/23/naacp-honor-van-jones-national-treasure/
White House green jobs adviser Van Jones quit the post last year after he was dogged by past remarks and associations, but that isn't stopping the NAACP from awarding him one of its Image Awards -- and even calling him a "American treasure."
Jones, who served as an adviser to the White House Council on Environmental Quality, generated mounting criticism last summer, first for calling Republicans "assholes" during a videotaped address earlier in the year and then for signing a petition in 2004 supporting the "9/11 truther" movement, which believes the Bush administration may have been involved in the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.
The latter development, which came on top of several others, was perhaps the most devastating and led to calls for his resignation.
But Jones still has his share of outspoken supporters, and one of them is Benjamin Todd Jealous, president and CEO of the NAACP.
"Van Jones is an American treasure," Jealous writes in an opinion piece posted at CNN.com. "He is quite simply one of the few Americans in recent years to have generated powerful new ideas that are creating new jobs."
Jealous cites Jones' book "The Green Collar Economy," his role in passing the 2007 Green Jobs Act and his work with low-income people in Oakland, Calif.
At the time of his resignation, Jones said the controversies had become an unceasing distraction, and he assailed his critics.
"On the eve of historic fights for health care and clean energy, opponents of reform have mounted a vicious smear campaign against me. They are using lies and distortions to distract and divide," Jones said.
Jones is considered a rising star in environmental circles. In addition to writing "The Green Collar Economy," he has co-founded and worked with several groups dedicated to helping low-income and minority communities -- often through green jobs and better environmental policy. He got his start as a San Francisco-area activist.
Former Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean, speaking last year on "Fox News Sunday," called Jones' resignation a "loss for the country."
But critics raised questions about his fitness for a White House-level office, pointing to his radical activities a decade ago as well as more recent controversial stances.
Jones was a self-described "communist" during the 1990s and previously worked with a group dedicated to Marxist and Leninist philosophies. His comments, even in recent years, were often racially charged. He's blamed "white polluters and white environmentalists" for "steering poison" to minority communities. In 2005, he drew a distinction between white and black youths involved in shooting incidents by referencing the 1999 Columbine High School massacre.
"You've never seen a Columbine done by a black child. Never," Jones said. "They always say, 'We can't believe it happened here. We can't believe it's these suburban white kids.' It's only them!" he said. "Now, a black kid might shoot another black kid. He's not going to shoot up the whole school."
Such statements did not draw widespread attention until after a February video surfaced showing him calling Republicans "assholes" during an address in Berkeley, Calif. Jones apologized, but faced down his past again when it was discovered that he signed a 2004 statement calling on then-New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer and others to launch an investigation into evidence that suggests "people within the current administration may indeed have deliberately allowed 9/11 to happen, perhaps as a pretext for war."
Jones afterward issued a blanket apology for his past statements and said the petition does not reflect his views. An aide said Jones didn't carefully review the petition at the time.
But that claim was swiftly disputed by 911Truth.org. "He did agree with that statement and he did sign on to it," 911Truth.org spokesman Mike Berger told Fox News in a telephone interview from St. Louis on Friday. Berger said the group's "original board members individually confirmed all signatories that had signed on to the statement."
The calls for resignation mounted. And lawmakers said the problems surrounding Jones spoke to the broader concern about so-called White House "czars," top advisers and officials who do not need congressional approval.
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They traded one set of chains for another.
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How come this doesn't surprise me one bit?
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They traded one set of chains for another.
who is "they" ?
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Supports an investigation of 9/11? Just from that I'd guess he's a decent guy.
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When the NAACP honours you as "An American Treasure", it is for your body of work over a career or lifetime.
It's like Oscar time when you see them hand out the Irving G. Thalberg Award at the Oscars.
Last years winner was John Calley, ...but who the heck is John Calley you ask? what has he done?
Well, he's had one single job as an actor in a below the line role. He played "Charlie's father" in a 1997 movie called "One night Stand". His role was so inconsequential, his character didn't even have a first or last name, ...he was simply billed as "Charlie's father", ...hardly noteworthy. But his Oscar wasn't given for that, it was for his cumulative body of work you might be more familiar with... as producer of notable projects like "The Cincinatti Kid", "Catch-22", "Fat Man and Little Boy", "Postcards From the Edge", "The Remains of the Day", "Closer", "The DaVinci Code", "Angels & Demons" etc., etc.,
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When the NAACP honours you as "An American Treasure", it is for your body of work over a career or lifetime.
It's like Oscar time when you see them hand out the Irving G. Thalberg Award at the Oscars.
Last years winner was John Calley, ...but who the heck is John Calley you ask? what has he done?
Well, he's had one single job as an actor in a below the line role. He played "Charlie's father" in a 1997 movie called "One night Stand". His role was so inconsequential, his character didn't even have a first or last name, ...he was simply billed as "Charlie's father", ...hardly noteworthy. But his Oscar wasn't given for that, it was for his cumulative body of work you might be more familiar with... as producer of notable projects like "The Cincinatti Kid", "Catch-22", "Fat Man and Little Boy", "Postcards From the Edge", "The Remains of the Day", "Closer", "The DaVinci Code", "Angels & Demons" etc., etc.,
Did they include his arrest record and declaration of being a communist as part of his life's work deserving an award?
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Did they include his arrest record and declaration of being a communist as part of his life's work deserving an award?
They are honouring the positives, ...not the negatives. It's like when Americans honour Roosevelt or Kennedy.
They're not honouring the depression, or the Bay of Pigs, ...they're honouring the positive legacy left behind.
As it will be when honours are bestowed upon Clinton. It most certainly will not be for his escapades with Gennifer Flowers.
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They are honouring the positives, ...not the negatives. It's like when Americans honour Roosevelt or Kennedy.
They're not honouring the depression, or the Bay of Pigs, ...they're honouring the positive legacy left behind.
As it will be when honours are bestowed upon Clinton. It most certainly will not be for his escapades with Gennifer Flowers.
What good works has Van Jones done?For the life of me I cant think of one single solitary thing.The NAACP is so hard up for worthy blacks to honor[has to be a liberal black obviously]they honor a communist,white hating racist,who helped burn down LA during the Rodney King riots.Quite a worthy man to be honored.Who next the guys that beat Reginald Denny up?
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What good works has Van Jones done?For the life of me I cant think of one single solitary thing.
Then maybe perhaps you should buy a ticket, rent a tux, and attend the event. I'm sure they'll be discussing the accomplishments for which he is being honoured throughout the tribute. I'm sure you would have a really lovely time there, among all the many Black people who often attend the event. You might even end up sandwiched between some rap artists, like Biggie Smalls & Tupac Shakur? Wouldn't that be special? ;D
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Then maybe perhaps you should buy a ticket, rent a tux, and attend the event. I'm sure they'll be discussing the accomplishments for which he is being honoured throughout the tribute. I'm sure you would have a really lovely time there, among all the many Black people who often attend the event. You might even end up sandwiched between some rap artists, like Biggie Smalls & Tupac Shakur? Wouldn't that be special? ;D
Why would I attend a conferance held by a group that calls blacks colored?Im far more evolved then that.I find that offensive.Open up your mind and stop clinging to stereotypes from the past.
By the way,here is a newsflash Biggie and Tupac are dead.Even though tupac continues to release music and there are rumors he is on an island with Bruce Lee and Elvis learning karate,Im pretty sure that hes gone.
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By the way,here is a newsflash Biggie and Tupac are dead.
yes, I know. ;)
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yes, I know. ;)
You know whats funny about you?Your a typical white coward.You think a person like me would be scared of those black rappers.My arm is bigger then tupacs head.Id punch that little fags eye right out of his skull.I know whites like you automatically think blacks are scarry and tough,but whites like me look at them a giggle.Im a 315lb man with a 942 lb squat and fully expect to bench 700 this year.Id grab those little pussy black jerkoffs and squeeze their fucking eye out of their skulls.
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You know whats funny about you?Your a typical white coward.You think a person like me would be scared of those black rappers.My arm is bigger then tupacs head.Id punch that little fags eye right out of his skull.I know whites like you automatically think blacks are scarry and tough,but whites like me look at them a giggle.Im a 315lb man with a 942 lb squat and fully expect to bench 700 this year.Id grab those little pussy black jerkoffs and squeeze their fucking eye out of their skulls.
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Where's Thomas Sowell or Pastor Manning image award
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You know whats funny about you?Your a typical white coward.You think a person like me would be scared of those black rappers.My arm is bigger then tupacs head.Id punch that little fags eye right out of his skull.I know whites like you automatically think blacks are scarry and tough,but whites like me look at them a giggle.Im a 315lb man with a 942 lb squat and fully expect to bench 700 this year.Id grab those little pussy black jerkoffs and squeeze their fucking eye out of their skulls.
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What can I say Billy... you've just read me like a book. I guess I'm busted.
Ok I admit it... you're right. I confess. I admit it... I am a typical white coward.
And yes... whites like me automatically think blacks are scary & tough.
...and I do suffer from more than my share of white liberal guilt.
I guess I've just been in denial for far too long. Thanks for setting me straight.
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What can I say Billy... you've just read me like a book. I guess I'm busted.
Ok I admit it... you're right. I confess. I admit it... I am a typical white coward.
And yes... whites like me automatically think blacks are scary & tough.
...and I do suffer from more than my share of white liberal guilt.
I guess I've just been in denial for far too long. Thanks for setting me straight.
You can mock it and joke about it all you want,EVERYTIME ANYONE puts the word "black" in a post there you are saying "why would it matter if it was black".Your own posts show exactly what you are,a guilty,self hating,left wing lib,who probably lusts after blacks but are too dam ugly to date one,which is saying a lot since black men will date ANY women who is white.
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National treasure my ass. This is a stone cold communist piece of trash who belongs back in jail or a cage.
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I didn't have a problem with him calling Republicans "assholes"--I said the same thing many times from 2000-2008. I'm not a Truther, either, but I don't see them as any sort of real threat, either. That "Give them the wealth!" video clip made me wary, though.
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who is "they" ?
Racist post reported. Thank you for pointing that out Straw. We can't let these bigots think they can get away with calling a group of people they.
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NAACP has become a complete joke. A once respected organization is a shell of its former self. Self aggrandizing, publicity chasing with no real content to anything they do. Yes, i said they.... ;D
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Racist post reported. Thank you for pointing that out Straw. We can't let these bigots think they can get away with calling a group of people they.
I don't even know what 333 meant by that post
do you?
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lol.. how lame.. nut rider
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I don't even know what 333 meant by that post
do you?
Isn't it obvious? I mean. You know those people and how the media falsely portrays how they act. 333 hates Obama so therefore he is a racist. The "they" reference could only mean one particular group.
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National treasure my ass. This is a stone cold communist piece of trash who belongs back in jail or a cage.
Spoken like a true communist. Thankfully Beck exposed this marxist trash early on.
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Isn't it obvious? I mean. You know those people and how the media falsely portrays how they act. 333 hates Obama so therefore he is a racist. The "they" reference could only mean one particular group.
333 was the first response in the thread
what chains is he talking about in reference to the present time?
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333 was the first response in the thread
what chains is he talking about in reference to the present time?
Chains of cradle to grave govt dependency.
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Chains of cradle to grave govt dependency.
can you elaborate on this a bit
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can you elaborate on this a bit
Why? It speaks for itself and is plainly obvious and clear to anyone honest enough to discuss the topic.
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can you elaborate on this a bit
Yup. If you need it to be spelled out even more than you are one dumb bastard.
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Why? It speaks for itself and is plainly obvious and clear to anyone honest enough to discuss the topic.
so you believe "they" depend on the government from cradle to grave?
who is "they" again?
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so you believe "they" depend on the government from cradle to grave?
who is "they" again?
Martians
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This is not a surprise. The NAACP is one of the most racist organizations out there. Their "hate whitey" mentality is revolting and ignorant. I don't see the value in their existence.
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Martians
why are you being so shy today
usually you're proud of your insane beliefs
what gives?
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Martians
Illegal immigrants
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why are you being so shy today
usually you're proud of your insane beliefs
what gives?
Blacks suffer from slave mentality under the Democratic Party
January 11, 2010
Kass
For the past few months, I have purposely tried to remain ignorant of political news with the exception of getting my breaking information from various Twitter accounts: BreakingNews, CNNbrk, jaketapper, and chucktodd. So when I saw that Sen. Harry Reid, a Democratic Party member and Senate Majority Leader, had made some ignorant statements about (then) presidential candidate Barack Obama being “light-skinned with no Negro dialect unless he wanted to have one,” I chose to initially ignore that too.
What I can’t ignore, however, is how black leadership (in the Democratic Party, of course) has been completely inconsistent on matters of race, playing politics to allow Sen. Reid to “stay in power.” This makes me angry.
Let’s go back a few years to 2002 to Trent Lott, Senate Majority Leader at the time, who said the country would have been better off if Dixiecrats had won the 1948 presidential election. Had that been the case, the civil rights movement could have been stunted due to the Dixiecrats’ support of racial segregation.
The calls for Lott’s resignation were loud and clear, and in my estimation, understandably so. But one must admit the calls for resignation were resounding because Lott was a Republican and Republicans are traditionally seen as the “racist party.” (White Republicans fear to say that so someone needs to say it for them.)
Let’s even fast-forward a few years to then-Senator Joe Biden’s comments about Obama. He said this:
“I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.”
I get what Biden was trying to say here but this could be taken in all sorts of wrong ways. Biden was minimally called out for it but he didn’t lose his senate seat, never needed to resign, but in fact, now serves as this country’s vice president. The Democratic Party did damage control and got black leaders to rally around Biden and forgive him for his sins. Had Biden been playing for the wrong team, he would have been vilified and calls for his resignation would have been adamant (which also, in my opinion, would have been unnecessary but understandable).
But let’s take a look at the remarks of Geraldine Ferraro, who endorsed and campaigned for Hillary Clinton, a junior senator and candidate for the Democratic presidential primary:
“If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman of any color, he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept.”
Shortly after Ms. Ferraro made these comments, she came under such attack from other Democrats and black leaders that she had to remove herself from Clinton’s campaign. Former President Bill Clinton also took the “racist” hit when he likened Obama’s 2008 campaign strategy in South Carolina to Jesse Jackson’s in 1984 and 1988. Ferraro and Bill Clinton were not called out solely because of what appeared to be racist remarks–they were called out because the Democratic leadership had thrown its weight behind Obama and it wanted to do everything in its power to get Hillary Clinton out of the way. It was all about politics; not race.
Now, Reid says something stupid in regard to Obama’s skin color and it’s pooh-poohed and overlooked. This line from an AP story throws me for a loop:
…nationally prominent Democrats ranging from Obama to the Rev. Al Sharpton have rallied to his side…
Rep. Barbara Lee, D-Calif., head of the Congressional Black Caucus, and Sharpton also said Reid did not deserve to lose his leadership position as a result of his comments. New York Gov. David Paterson, who is black, said Reid’s remarks were reprehensible and degrading, but he said Reid shouldn’t lose his leadership post as a result.
So it’s okay for Reid to say something like that without consequences? Granted, I am not one who is overly sensitive when it comes to remarks on race and wasn’t particularly offended offhand when I first heard Reid’s remarks, but I must note the double-standard here. Had this remark come from Sen. Mitch McConnell, the current Senate Republican Leader, Democrats would have demanded an instant resignation and black leaders would have ignored any apology McConnell offered, insisting he step down from his position of leadership.
It’s all bloody politics.
It’s unfortunate that blacks who choose to be conservatives or members of the Republican Party are called “Uncle Toms.” Here’s the definition of Uncle Tom if you’re not familiar with it:
Uncle Tom is a pejorative term for a black person who is perceived by others as behaving in a subservient manner to white authority figures, or as seeking ingratiation with them by way of unnecessary accommodation.
For example, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas isn’t acknowledged in black history books simply due to his affiliation with the Republican Party. Black Republicans are seen as traitors to their race and it is assumed that they align themselves with the Republican Party in an effort to seek inclusion into white acceptance. It’s complete bullcrap perpetrated by the Democratic Party to keep black people, the party’s most loyal voters, under lockdown.
You see, I left the Democratic Party in December 2008, and as such, my eyes have since been opened to the way the Democratic Party mistreats and abuses the votes of Black people. The Democratic Party leadership doesn’t give two craps about the welfare of minorities–it only cares about using whatever is as its disposal to put–and keep–it in power.
During the 2008 presidential election, I was outspoken about my opposition to Barack Obama’s candidacy. As a black woman, I drew fire from my own race. One fellow black female even told me that I possessed “slave mentality.”
Now, more than a year later, I see that blacks who suck at the paps of the Democratic Party are truly the ones under slave mentality. The Democratic Party provides empty promises of power, protection, and welfare to black people in exchange for votes. Not only is being black about skin color; it’s also about your political affiliation. If you are a black person, it is assumed you are a Democrat; no questions asked.
Blacks are peer pressured into being Democrats and remaining faithful to the party:
“Don’t you stray too far from the plantation, now. Massa, wants you back, ya hear?”
Should any black person with a mind of her own stray from the plantation, Massa makes sure that her fellow black peers shame her into coming back. See, what the blacks still on the plantation want to remain largely ignorant of is that there is freedom and independence when you leave Massa’s plantation. Massa don’t control you; you control your own mind and your own self. When blacks on the plantation see Miss Independent stray and do well for herself, they belittle her and make her feel like crap because they’re jealous they’re still working for pennies on the dolla for Massa.
So when I see people like Al Sharpton and Barbara Lee extend “forgiveness” to Harry Reid, I know it’s not because they really want to; it’s because they got their orders from one of their many “Massas”–Democratic Party leadership that includes Nancy Pelosi, a white woman who desperately wants to stay in power.
This may be the most racist thing I’ve ever written but it needed to be said. I’m tired of Democrats taking advantage of the Republican Party being seen as “racist” while sweeping racism and racist-remarks from its own party under the carpet. And it angers me even more to see Sharpton and Lee shuffle off like Sambos at the biddings of white Democrats who are managing the strings. Michael Steele, the first black chairman of the Republican Party, said it more succinctly than me:
“There is this standard where the Democrats feel that they can say these things and they can apologize when it comes from the mouths of their own. But if it comes from anyone else, it’s racism,” Steele said.
How I long for the day when blacks finally break free from the slave chains of Democrats and escape from the Democratic Party plantation!
Notice of Disclosure: I currently am independent/hold no affiliation with any political party.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:d_rTkwstVmwJ:thisjourneyismyown.wordp ress.com/2010/01/11/blacks-suffer-from-slave-mentality-under-the-democratic-party/+democrat+slave+plantation&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com
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Once again, Straw is getting raped by logic.
Those videos show exactly how many blacks think.
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Once again, Straw is getting raped by logic.
Those videos show exactly how many blacks think.
I'm assuming you're a black guy
right?
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Blacks suffer from slave mentality under the Democratic Party
January 11, 2010
Kass
For the past few months, I have purposely tried to remain ignorant of political news with the exception of getting my breaking information from various Twitter accounts: BreakingNews, CNNbrk, jaketapper, and chucktodd. So when I saw that Sen. Harry Reid, a Democratic Party member and Senate Majority Leader, had made some ignorant statements about (then) presidential candidate Barack Obama being “light-skinned with no Negro dialect unless he wanted to have one,” I chose to initially ignore that too.
What I can’t ignore, however, is how black leadership (in the Democratic Party, of course) has been completely inconsistent on matters of race, playing politics to allow Sen. Reid to “stay in power.” This makes me angry.
Let’s go back a few years to 2002 to Trent Lott, Senate Majority Leader at the time, who said the country would have been better off if Dixiecrats had won the 1948 presidential election. Had that been the case, the civil rights movement could have been stunted due to the Dixiecrats’ support of racial segregation.
The calls for Lott’s resignation were loud and clear, and in my estimation, understandably so. But one must admit the calls for resignation were resounding because Lott was a Republican and Republicans are traditionally seen as the “racist party.” (White Republicans fear to say that so someone needs to say it for them.)
Let’s even fast-forward a few years to then-Senator Joe Biden’s comments about Obama. He said this:
“I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.”
I get what Biden was trying to say here but this could be taken in all sorts of wrong ways. Biden was minimally called out for it but he didn’t lose his senate seat, never needed to resign, but in fact, now serves as this country’s vice president. The Democratic Party did damage control and got black leaders to rally around Biden and forgive him for his sins. Had Biden been playing for the wrong team, he would have been vilified and calls for his resignation would have been adamant (which also, in my opinion, would have been unnecessary but understandable).
But let’s take a look at the remarks of Geraldine Ferraro, who endorsed and campaigned for Hillary Clinton, a junior senator and candidate for the Democratic presidential primary:
“If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman of any color, he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept.”
Shortly after Ms. Ferraro made these comments, she came under such attack from other Democrats and black leaders that she had to remove herself from Clinton’s campaign. Former President Bill Clinton also took the “racist” hit when he likened Obama’s 2008 campaign strategy in South Carolina to Jesse Jackson’s in 1984 and 1988. Ferraro and Bill Clinton were not called out solely because of what appeared to be racist remarks–they were called out because the Democratic leadership had thrown its weight behind Obama and it wanted to do everything in its power to get Hillary Clinton out of the way. It was all about politics; not race.
Now, Reid says something stupid in regard to Obama’s skin color and it’s pooh-poohed and overlooked. This line from an AP story throws me for a loop:
…nationally prominent Democrats ranging from Obama to the Rev. Al Sharpton have rallied to his side…
Rep. Barbara Lee, D-Calif., head of the Congressional Black Caucus, and Sharpton also said Reid did not deserve to lose his leadership position as a result of his comments. New York Gov. David Paterson, who is black, said Reid’s remarks were reprehensible and degrading, but he said Reid shouldn’t lose his leadership post as a result.
So it’s okay for Reid to say something like that without consequences? Granted, I am not one who is overly sensitive when it comes to remarks on race and wasn’t particularly offended offhand when I first heard Reid’s remarks, but I must note the double-standard here. Had this remark come from Sen. Mitch McConnell, the current Senate Republican Leader, Democrats would have demanded an instant resignation and black leaders would have ignored any apology McConnell offered, insisting he step down from his position of leadership.
It’s all bloody politics.
It’s unfortunate that blacks who choose to be conservatives or members of the Republican Party are called “Uncle Toms.” Here’s the definition of Uncle Tom if you’re not familiar with it:
Uncle Tom is a pejorative term for a black person who is perceived by others as behaving in a subservient manner to white authority figures, or as seeking ingratiation with them by way of unnecessary accommodation.
For example, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas isn’t acknowledged in black history books simply due to his affiliation with the Republican Party. Black Republicans are seen as traitors to their race and it is assumed that they align themselves with the Republican Party in an effort to seek inclusion into white acceptance. It’s complete bullcrap perpetrated by the Democratic Party to keep black people, the party’s most loyal voters, under lockdown.
You see, I left the Democratic Party in December 2008, and as such, my eyes have since been opened to the way the Democratic Party mistreats and abuses the votes of Black people. The Democratic Party leadership doesn’t give two craps about the welfare of minorities–it only cares about using whatever is as its disposal to put–and keep–it in power.
During the 2008 presidential election, I was outspoken about my opposition to Barack Obama’s candidacy. As a black woman, I drew fire from my own race. One fellow black female even told me that I possessed “slave mentality.”
Now, more than a year later, I see that blacks who suck at the paps of the Democratic Party are truly the ones under slave mentality. The Democratic Party provides empty promises of power, protection, and welfare to black people in exchange for votes. Not only is being black about skin color; it’s also about your political affiliation. If you are a black person, it is assumed you are a Democrat; no questions asked.
Blacks are peer pressured into being Democrats and remaining faithful to the party:
“Don’t you stray too far from the plantation, now. Massa, wants you back, ya hear?”
Should any black person with a mind of her own stray from the plantation, Massa makes sure that her fellow black peers shame her into coming back. See, what the blacks still on the plantation want to remain largely ignorant of is that there is freedom and independence when you leave Massa’s plantation. Massa don’t control you; you control your own mind and your own self. When blacks on the plantation see Miss Independent stray and do well for herself, they belittle her and make her feel like crap because they’re jealous they’re still working for pennies on the dolla for Massa.
So when I see people like Al Sharpton and Barbara Lee extend “forgiveness” to Harry Reid, I know it’s not because they really want to; it’s because they got their orders from one of their many “Massas”–Democratic Party leadership that includes Nancy Pelosi, a white woman who desperately wants to stay in power.
This may be the most racist thing I’ve ever written but it needed to be said. I’m tired of Democrats taking advantage of the Republican Party being seen as “racist” while sweeping racism and racist-remarks from its own party under the carpet. And it angers me even more to see Sharpton and Lee shuffle off like Sambos at the biddings of white Democrats who are managing the strings. Michael Steele, the first black chairman of the Republican Party, said it more succinctly than me:
“There is this standard where the Democrats feel that they can say these things and they can apologize when it comes from the mouths of their own. But if it comes from anyone else, it’s racism,” Steele said.
How I long for the day when blacks finally break free from the slave chains of Democrats and escape from the Democratic Party plantation!
Notice of Disclosure: I currently am independent/hold no affiliation with any political party.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:d_rTkwstVmwJ:thisjourneyismyown.wordp ress.com/2010/01/11/blacks-suffer-from-slave-mentality-under-the-democratic-party/+democrat+slave+plantation&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com
is this what you're offering in support of your belief that "they" depend on the government from cradle to grave?
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Its the entire basis of the Democrat party since LBJ you dope. He even said so!
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Its the entire basis of the Democrat party since LBJ you dope. He even said so!
he did ?
just on the slim chance you've misinterpreted or misunderstood the quote why don't you post it here
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he did ?
just on the slim chance you've misinterpreted or misunderstood the quote why don't you post it here
Just a friendly piece of advice; Asking someone who doesn't know what they are talking about to explain themselves is an effective way to make them look foolish. Asking someone who knows what they are talking about to explain themselves to you repeatedly makes you look foolish. Let's just chalk it up to you missing your mark in this thread and lets move it along shall we?
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Just a friendly piece of advice; Asking someone who doesn't know what they are talking about to explain themselves is an effective way to make them look foolish. Asking someone who knows what they are talking about to explain themselves to you repeatedly makes you look foolish. Let's just chalk it up to you missing your mark in this thread and lets move it along shall we?
I'm still waiting for a good answer from 333 or anyone
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he did ?
just on the slim chance you've misinterpreted or misunderstood the quote why don't you post it here
I'll post it later. LBJ admitted most of the programs were simply voting buying for the Dems and created dependency. Not that it at all matters to far leftists like yourself.
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I'm assuming you're a black guy
right?
Part black. Have some black cousins that HAD this same mentality. They voted for Obama. Now they are wishing they could take their votes back. Biggest myth out there is that the Democratic party looks out for black people. People need to study the origin of the Democratic party and question why they believe so much on government handouts and entitlement programs. Worst thing to do to a person is to make them dependent on government instead of having them work for their future.
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I'm still waiting for a good answer from 333 or anyone
About what?
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I'll post it later. LBJ admitted most of the programs were simply voting buying for the Dems and created dependency. Not that it at all matters to far leftists like yourself.
I'll check back later and to see that quote
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Part black. Have some black cousins that HAD this same mentality. They voted for Obama. Now they are wishing they could take their votes back. Biggest myth outhere is that the Democratic party looks out for black people. People need to study the origin of the Democratic party and question why they believe so much on government handouts and entitlement programs. Worst thing to do to a person is to make them dependent on government instead of working for their future.
That is the entire basis of the Dem party. Govt dependency.
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Part black. Have some black cousins that HAD this same mentality. They voted for Obama. Now they are wishing they could take their votes back. Biggest myth outhere is that the Democratic party looks out for black people. People need to study the origin of the Democratic party and question why they believe so much on government handouts and entitlement programs. Worst thing to do to a person is to make them dependent on government instead of working for their future.
so tell us how you've been dependent on the government since your birth
btw - why aren't you like your cousins
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Just a friendly piece of advice; Asking someone who doesn't know what they are talking about to explain themselves is an effective way to make them look foolish. Asking someone who knows what they are talking about to explain themselves to you repeatedly makes you look foolish. Let's just chalk it up to you missing your mark in this thread and lets move it along shall we?
:D :D :D :D
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so tell us how you've been dependent on the government since your birth
btw - why aren't you like your cousins
Is english not your first language, or are you just too stupid to realize that when asking a rhetorical question you can't already be presented with the answer when it completely wipes out your argument?
Part black. Have some black cousins that HAD this same mentality. They voted for Obama. Now they are wishing they could take their votes back. Biggest myth outhere is that the Democratic party looks out for black people. People need to study the origin of the Democratic party and question why they believe so much on government handouts and entitlement programs. Worst thing to do to a person is to make them dependent on government instead of working for their future.
IF HES NOT LIKE HIS COUSINS, THEN HOW COULD HE HAVE BEEN DEPENDENT ON THE GOVERNMENT SINCE BIRTH?
so tell us how you've been dependent on the government since your birth
btw - why aren't you like your cousins
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That is the entire basis of the Dem party. Govt dependency.
really
well I guess if you believe it then it must be true
I'm sure that quote from LBJ will support that as well so you should find it and post it and try to post the entire quote in context
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so tell us how you've been dependent on the government since your birth
btw - why aren't you like your cousins
Without promising more free shit for victim groups, the largest of which is currently blacks, the Dem party would cease to exist.
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Straw Man making a complete fool of himself seems to be becoming a daily occurrence on here. Keep those synapses firing, Straw. :-X
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Is english not your first language, or are you just too stupid to realize that when asking a rhetorical question you can't already be presented with the answer when it completely wipes out your argument?
he's part black so according to 333's belief (which Dario himself seems to agree with) he must have been depending on the government since his birth in some way or another
isn't that 333's entire premise?
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he's part black so according to 333's belief (which Dario himself seems to agree with) he must have been depending on the government since his birth in some way or another
isn't that 333's entire premise?
Go re-read my post a few spaces up. That will provide you the answer to all that you seek.
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Go re-read my post a few spaces up. That will provide you the answer to all that you seek.
I read it
It makes no sense as a response to what has been previously posted
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The Commie Van Jones in action just a few days ago:
Quite the c*nt.
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The Commie Van Jones in action just a few days ago:
Quite the c*nt.
I posted that vid in bumping this thread. Truly scary that people like that would have been considered for a CZAR position by Obama.
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I posted that vid in bumping this thread. Truly scary that people like that would have been considered for a CZAR position by Obama.
Ha. Didn't see it at the bottom of page 1. I skimmed page 1 and jumped in at page 2 because there's only so much of Straw Man's back-pedaling excuse-making that I can read without feeling nauseous.
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so tell us how you've been dependent on the government since your birth
btw - why aren't you like your cousins
So tell me why your reading comprehension is so awful? I stated "many blacks" have that mindset. Not all of them do.
Not all family members will have the same religious, political, or social points of view. Nor the same work ethic.
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The Commie Van Jones in action just a few days ago:
Quite the c*nt.
I watched this entire clip
what part do you have a problem with?
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So tell me why your reading comprehension is so awful? I stated "many blacks" have that mindset. Not all of them do.
Not all family members will have the same religious, political, or social points of view. Nor the same work ethic.
I find it very prejudicial and bigoted that Straw Man expects all blacks to have the same collective, group-think mindset. Who would have thought that he was such a bigoted and close-minded individual? Typical far-left elitist.
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So tell me why your reading comprehension is so awful? I stated "many blacks" have that mindset. Not all of them do.
Not all family members will have the same religious, political, or social points of view. Nor the same work ethic.
so you don't agree that you depend on the government from cradle to grave?
what makes you different from your cousins and other black people
btw - I'm not even aware that black people have any special benefits that allow them to depend on the government from cradle to grave. Do you know what 333 is talking about there?
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I watched this entire clip
what part do you have a problem with?
Unbelievable. Even for you, which is saying a lot. So some 12 y/o bitch and thug has no basis to respect older people anymre? You dont see a problemwith that for obvious reasons?
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I find it very prejudicial and bigoted that Straw Man expects all blacks to have the same collective, group-think mindset. Who would have thought that he was such a bigoted and close-minded individual? Typical far-left elitist.
when did I say that
so far only one black guy on this thread is willing to talk about 333's premise of
Chains of cradle to grave govt dependency.
are you saying this only applies to some black people because 333 didn't make that distinction
assuming he thinks it only applies to some and not all then what makes that subset hold this belief
is it their race or do others who are not black also have this belief
btw - just so we're completely clear. I don't agree with 333's premise which is why I asked him to expand on it.
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Unbelievable. Even for you, which is saying a lot. So some 12 y/o bitch and thug has no basis to respect older people anymre? You dont see a problemwith that for obvious reasons?
fine
just tell me something he said that you have a problem with
why is that so difficult
the clip is only 3:20 seconds long
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fine
just tell me something he said that you have a problem with
why is that so difficult
the clip is only 3:20 seconds long
Straw - please tell me you play so dumb on purpose. Please - the thought of someone so dense as you canceling out my vote is becoming really disheartening.
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so you don't agree that you depend on the government from cradle to grave?
what makes you different from your cousins and other black people
btw - I'm not even aware that black people have any special benefits that allow them to depend on the government from cradle to grave. Do you know what 333 is talking about there?
I don't think that all blacks are dependent from cradle to grave. But, in my own family I have several aunts and uncles and some cousins that have lived all their lives on government assistance. That have abused the system.
I know what 333 is talking about. I don't agree that it applies to all blacks and there are not "special" benefits. But as to whether there are blacks that spend their life getting government handouts and feel that is the government's job to take care of them, that is true. There are people that believe that. And I will add not only blacks, but there are hispanics that believe the same thing. Those are my roots. Father Hispanic. Mother was black.
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Its all a matter of marketing for votes by Dems to get gullible blacks and minorities to vote for them with promises of "fairness", "equality", etc.
Its all a scam to get these people dependent on govt assistance and them blame the evil GOP for trying to "starve children" blah blah.
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Straw - please tell me you play so dumb on purpose. Please - the thought of someone so dense as you canceling out my vote is becoming really disheartening.
you didn't actually watch the video
did you?
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you didn't actually watch the video
did you?
Yes I did, actually twice because I could not believe a grown adult would say such nonsense.
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Yes I did, actually twice because I could not believe a grown adult would say such nonsense.
I can't believe a grown adult can't give one simple example from a 3 minute clip
I heard nothing but then I don't have special commie hunter senses
you posted the clip so tell me something he said in it that you have a problem with
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I don't think that all blacks are dependent from cradle to grave. But, in my own family I have several aunts and uncles and some cousins that have lived all their lives on government assistance. That have abused the system.
I know what 333 is talking about. I don't agree that it applies to all blacks and there are not "special" benefits. But as to whether there are blacks that spend their life getting government handouts and feel that is the government's job to take care of them, that is true. There are people that believe that. And I will add not only blacks, but there are hispanics that believe the same thing. Those are my roots. Father Hispanic. Mother was black.
fair enough
do you think any white people might also feel the same way?
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fair enough
do you think any white people might also feel the same way?
There are some - but we are talking ratios, proportionality, %'s, etc.
The whole message of the Dem party, NAACP, etc - "more welfare, more dependency, more handouts, more free shit, more expectations of socialism, etc, etc."
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There are some - but we are talking ratios, proportionality, %'s, etc.
The whole message of the Dem party, NAACP, etc - "more welfare, more dependency, more handouts, more free shit, more expectations of socialism, etc, etc."
so the whole Dem platform is aimed at providing cradle to grave dependency for some (but not all) black people (and some whites, hispanics, as well)
where's that LBJ quote ?
That should help prove your point
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so the whole Dem platform is aimed at providing cradle to grave dependency for some (but not all) black people (and some whites, hispanics, as well)
where's that LBJ quote ?
That should help prove your point
I'll drag it out later - basic premises was that if the Dems got blacks addicted to welfare, they would be reliable Dem voters in perpetuity.
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I'll drag it out later - basic premises was that if the Dems got blacks addicted to welfare, they would be reliable Dem voters in perpetuity.
what legislation you talking about that was designed to get "blacks addicted to welfare"?
I assume you're referrring to something that LBJ signed into law but I don't know what you're referring to specifically
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what legislation you talking about that was designed to get "blacks addicted to welfare"?
I assume you're referrring to something that LBJ signed into law but I don't know what you're referring to specifically
Straw - are you seriously as dumb as you pretend to be? I have to be completely honest - in my 35 years on this planet - I have never encountered someone even remotely as dense as yourself who does not understand eventhe most basic and obvious thngs like this.
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Straw - are you seriously as dumb as you pretend to be? I have to be completely honest - in my 35 years on this planet - I have never encountered someone even remotely as dense as yourself who does not understand eventhe most basic and obvious thngs like this.
why can't you ever answer a simple question
tell me what legislation you're talking about whose purpose was to "get blacks addicted to welfare"
and while you're at it tell me one thing is that 3 minute video of Van Jones that you have a problem with
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why can't you ever answer a simple question
tell me what legislation you're talking about whose purpose was to "get blacks addicted to welfare"
and while you're at it tell me one thing is that 3 minute video of Van Jones that you have a problem with
The entire "Great Society" passed by LBJ and the Dems you fucking twat. Damnit you are dense.
As for Van jones, the idea that 12 and 15 y/o no longer have a basis to respect older people speaks for itself on many levels.
But then again - you are an extreme leftist, so of course you probabl think 12 y/o should run the nation.
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The entire "Great Society" passed by LBJ and the Dems you fucking twat. Damnit you are dense.
As for Van jones, the idea that 12 and 15 y/o no longer have a basis to respect older people speaks for itself on many levels.
But then again - you are an extreme leftist, so of course you probabl think 12 y/o should run the nation.
so the sole purpose of that was to get blacks addicted to welfare to make them "reliable Dem voters in perpetuity"
just checked Wiki and blacks were 12.9% of the population in 2009 and whites were 74.8%
I don't know what the percentage was in the early 1960's but I'd guess it was lower
you're suggesting the the Dem strategy was to get blacks addicted to welfare and somehow that would make them reliable voters for the Dems in perpetuity yet by doing so they lost the southern white democrats who were the much larger and ostensibly more reliable voting block?
are you really serious about this
Is this something you dreamed up on your own or did you read it somewhere?
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so the sole purpose of that was to get blacks addicted to welfare to make them "reliable Dem voters in perpetuity"
just checked Wiki and blacks were 12.9% of the population in 2009 and whites were 74.8%
I don't know what the percentage was in the early 1960's but I'd guess it was lower
you're suggesting the the Dem strategy was to get blacks addicted to welfare and somehow that would make them reliable voters for the Dems in perpetuity yet by doing so they lost the southern white democrats who were the much larger and ostensibly more reliable voting block?
are you really serious about this
Is this something you dreamed up on your own or did you read it somewhere?
Absolutely - its only deluded leftists like yourself ho see welfare as anything but.
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Absolutely - its only deluded leftists like yourself ho see welfare as anything but.
LOL
funniest fucking thing you've said in this entire thread
If only I could have the clarity of your brilliant mind and then I could see these things the way they really are
let me know when you find the quote by LBJ or can find one thing Van Jones said in that video that you have a problem with (I honestly don't know why you keep dodging this simple request)
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LOL
funniest fucking thing you've said in this entire thread
If only I could have the clarity of your brilliant mind and then I could see these things the way they really are
let me know when you find the quote by LBJ or can find one thing Van Jones said in that video that you have a problem with (I honestly don't know why you keep dodging this simple request)
Straw - pleae keep it up -you are the poster child fora deluded whacked out lib.
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Straw - pleae keep it up -you are the poster child fora deluded whacked out lib.
I'll check back later to see if you've been able to find one thing Van Jones said in that video that you have a problem with or if you can find that quote by LBJ
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I'll check back later to see if you've been able to find one thing Van Jones said in that video that you have a problem with or if you can find that quote by LBJ
I already told you dipshit. Are you doing coke again?
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I already told you dipshit. Are you doing coke again?
you did
I missed it
what did you say
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I already told you dipshit. Are you doing coke again?
is this what you're referring to
Unbelievable. Even for you, which is saying a lot. So some 12 y/o bitch and thug has no basis to respect older people anymre? You dont see a problemwith that for obvious reasons?
and you think his "message" is that young people don't need to respect older people anymore?
you didn't figure out that he was making a joke about how young kids are technologically savvy? Did you notice at ~ the 1.30 to 1.40 mark he said this is strange (that kids sometimes understand technology better than adults) and that "we're getting used to you"
you can't see that he's making a joke and he's including himself as the "older person" who might not understand technology as well as a six year old?
That's what's got you in a tailspin. Some stupid joke where he is the butt of the joke?
It must really suck to be you
you're in a constant state of anger/fear/panic over every little thing that you hear or believe you've heard
I actually kind of feel sorry for you now
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