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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: g101 on February 23, 2010, 08:14:15 PM
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Seriously guys is this a pure myth or what ?
People who are on EQ and break up with their gf or something bad happens then they say "ohhh i have anxiety.. im taking EQ.. that must be why"
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ok man i usually dont get mean or degrade people on here but you need to lay of the crack bro....
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ok man i usually dont get mean or degrade people on here but you need to lay of the crack bro....
x2 , its not EQ, its fockin nandralone that does it lol
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Any of your guys on here running eq?
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No thanks. Never tried it, never will because of the anxiety. EQ is not the only compound that could ellicit this side effect. Tren, Halo, Etc. can also heighten anxiety.
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I'm looking to give it a try...just want to use a reputable brand
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Any of your guys on here running eq?
yup, equipoise is great, just make sure its legit and you use a good amount.
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My main man bombz...what brand would u recomend?
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Any of your guys on here running eq?
Yes , it good at 600mg a week.
I find you need to run it long term though.
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I was thinking of running 400 to 600mgs a week for like 18 to 20 weeks
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imo the anxiety is all a bunch of bullshit.. most people run it for 20 weeks lets say and guaranteed something bad happens to you and you start to worry...
but ofcourse is MUST be the equipoise
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My main man bombz...what brand would u recomend?
you know, most equipoise out there is legit. equipoise is hard to fake. at least, in raw from. most steroids look exactly alike, and exactly alike to pretty much any white powder. counterfitting, underdosing, and selling fake raw steroids is evry easy, because they are all just white powder. equipoise however is not, its liquid form, and has a distinct look , consistancy, and smell.
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It can cause anxiety in some users.
If I have any "emotional" (females) upsets whilst running Nandralone I end up like a bitch with PMS ;D ,Im ok with EQ though
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you know, most equipoise out there is legit. equipoise is hard to fake. at least, in raw from. most steroids look exactly alike, and exactly alike to pretty much any white powder. counterfitting, underdosing, and selling fake raw steroids is evry easy, because they are all just white powder. equipoise however is not, its liquid form, and has a distinct look , consistancy, and smell.
EQ is supposed to smell like shit apparently and for the look part, what color do we have to lookout for ?
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gh15 says eq is a crock of shit
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gh15 says eq is a crock of shit
not really.. read his latest posts.. he recommends test tren masteron eq
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EQ is my favorite injectable, very good IMO
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Schmo buster, what brand do you usually do?
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i've thought About picking some up i just Don't really like the idea of using a product made by a Ugl ....anyone Have any experience with razak labs eq? Or any of their other products?
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Love eq gives the muscles a full sinewy look to them. I have never experienced any mental issues with any roids except increased aggression. Eq increases my appetite@ 400mg+. I also only used vet grade when I have access to it. I will be trying some home brew though shortly.
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EQ is supposed to smell like shit apparently and for the look part, what color do we have to lookout for ?
(http://www.bodyofscience.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6934&d=1254433097)
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Schmo buster, what brand do you usually do?
LA Pharma, before I used 0318 labs, but I prefer the LA Pharma one
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looks like a light greenish color ?
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I get anxiety from any AAS.
Remember raising your body's hormonal profile can have an exponential effect on your mood, kind of like when women have PMS or go through menopause.
I wouldn't say it's a myth, but i have had problems with anxiety my entire life and "ALL" AAS amplified it quite rapidly.
Steroids will intensify whatever natural characteristics you already have due to hormonal imbalances.
Good luck.
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yeah but the problem is people SPECIFICALLY say EQ is the reason for that which is a load of bs
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yeah but the problem is people SPECIFICALLY say EQ is the reason for that which is a load of bs
Yeah things out of your control have nothing to do with the drugs , like someone cutting you off in a car etc but how you react to situations then yes the drugs can have you acting in a way that you usely might not act.
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Yeah things out of your control have nothing to do with the drugs , like someone cutting you off in a car etc but how you react to situations then yes the drugs can have you acting in a way that you usely might not act.
I agree, but you can also be put into a certain state of mind with unidentifiable stimuli under certain hormonal balances.
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For those that have used it and had blood tests done, how high did your RBC (red blood cell count) rise?
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think about it guys.. when you start to panic example it's a clearly an issue with blood pressure.....
high bp = panic attacks , anxiety etc etc
take some blood meds , anti estrogens, aspirin anything to get your bp low and you will NEVER have anxiety issues....
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I don't have anxiety issues to begin with
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RBCs get higher on any steroid but EQ raised mine a good bit. Never had anxiety though. I think it's a huge load of BS.
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I get anxiety from any AAS.
Remember raising your body's hormonal profile can have an exponential effect on your mood, kind of like when women have PMS or go through menopause.
I wouldn't say it's a myth, but i have had problems with anxiety my entire life and "ALL" AAS amplified it quite rapidly.
Steroids will intensify whatever natural characteristics you already have due to hormonal imbalances.
Good luck.
AMEN to that. I have the exact same experience. I have anxiety anyway, but roids kick it in overdrive immediately. It sux!
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think about it guys.. when you start to panic example it's a clearly an issue with blood pressure.....
high bp = panic attacks , anxiety etc etc
take some blood meds , anti estrogens, aspirin anything to get your bp low and you will NEVER have anxiety issues....
That's a bunch of bullshit. Steroids do not affect neurochemicals? Neurochemicals don't affect mood?
How can anyone claim hormones do no not affect mood? Boggles the mind. ::) :D
Never had anxiety though. I think it's a huge load of BS.
Maybe there's no such thing as anxiety, period? :D Maybe "anxiety" is just an excuse to be a pussy. :D
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He's a newb talkin out of his ass
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found this article:
"Anxiety is felt to be related to GABA-ergic transmission in the brain. For some time, it has been known that some steroids, particularly boldenone (eq) and stanazolol (winny), affect GABA receptors in the brain. GABA is considered predominantly inhibitory, i.e. a "chiller". EQ can strip the brain of its natural chillers, GABA, creating waves of panic as you experience and describe so eloquently. Some people are born without sufficient GABA-ergic transmission, predisposing them to panic attacks such as you experienced, but in the absence of any externally administered drug. If you external stress overrides your GABA-ergic transmission, you will panic. So some only develop panic after a traumatic event. You probably had sufficient GABA-ergic transmssion for everyday life, but you were closer to that critical line than you thought, so when EQ stripped your GABA, you were pushed over that edge into panic. Some people are very far from that edge, so they can take a gram or two of EQ, strip their receptors, and still have no problems. Treatment options include benzos (which directly enhance GABA-ergic transmission, but have terrible tolerance and addiction potential and are NOT recommended), antidepressants (which by influencing serotonin and norepinephrine can enhance GABA-ergic transmission or simply screen more external stress through their mechanisms), and lastly DON"T DO EQ. This last one is simplest and best of course."
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Maybe there's no such thing as anxiety, period? :D Maybe "anxiety" is just an excuse to be a pussy. :D
maybe theres no such thing as mental disorders, period. just labels for different kinds of people. :)
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think about it guys.. when you start to panic example it's a clearly an issue with blood pressure.....
high bp = panic attacks , anxiety etc etc
take some blood meds , anti estrogens, aspirin anything to get your bp low and you will NEVER have anxiety issues....
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maybe theres no such thing as mental disorders, period. just labels for different kinds of people. :)
Yeah, that's what Thomas Szasz would say. If there's no demonstratable organic damage to the brain, for example, it's not a disease. He doesn't think schizophrenia or psychosis are diseases in the proper sense either, just deviations from the norm.
Whatever label you put on it, anxiety is real. Depression is real. And they are influenced by a number of factors, exogenous hormones being one no doubt.
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found this article:
"Anxiety is felt to be related to GABA-ergic transmission in the brain. For some time, it has been known that some steroids, particularly boldenone (eq) and stanazolol (winny), affect GABA receptors in the brain. GABA is considered predominantly inhibitory, i.e. a "chiller". EQ can strip the brain of its natural chillers, GABA, creating waves of panic as you experience and describe so eloquently. Some people are born without sufficient GABA-ergic transmission, predisposing them to panic attacks such as you experienced, but in the absence of any externally administered drug. If you external stress overrides your GABA-ergic transmission, you will panic. So some only develop panic after a traumatic event. You probably had sufficient GABA-ergic transmssion for everyday life, but you were closer to that critical line than you thought, so when EQ stripped your GABA, you were pushed over that edge into panic. Some people are very far from that edge, so they can take a gram or two of EQ, strip their receptors, and still have no problems. Treatment options include benzos (which directly enhance GABA-ergic transmission, but have terrible tolerance and addiction potential and are NOT recommended), antidepressants (which by influencing serotonin and norepinephrine can enhance GABA-ergic transmission or simply screen more external stress through their mechanisms), and lastly DON"T DO EQ. This last one is simplest and best of course."
Yes, that's one example of how steroids might affect mood, via brain chemistry. It's hard to pinpoint one mechanism or one neurotransmitter that is the cause of anxiety. Hell, scientists don't even know for sure how antidepressants for example reduce anxiety and alleviate depression. But hormones affect brain chemistry, I think most agree with that.
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think about it guys.. when you start to panic example it's a clearly an issue with blood pressure.....
high bp = panic attacks , anxiety etc etc
take some blood meds , anti estrogens, aspirin anything to get your bp low and you will NEVER have anxiety issues....
Please stop this nonsense.
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despite all the good comments about EQ the final verdict is that
EQ sucks.
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despite all the good comments about EQ the final verdict is that
EQ sucks.
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It wont blow you up or give you huge strength gains but is a good lean mass builder so I like it. :)
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That's exactly why I started using it now
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It wont blow you up or give you huge strength gains but is a good lean mass builder so I like it. :)
X2
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good cycle for lean mass is:
testosterone
trenbolone acetate
masteron prop
growth hormone
dianabol
and for the crazy ones insulin!
now we're talking :D
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how much more effective is stacking, than just a gram or two of test alone?( I prefer this question for the big users on the block for a while)
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how much more effective is stacking, than just a gram or two of test alone?( I prefer this question for the big users on the block for a while)
rotating compounds every so often can be beneficial, and because of this stacking test with one other roid then alternating that other roid every so often is smart...
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how much more effective is stacking, than just a gram or two of test alone?( I prefer this question for the big users on the block for a while)
This is really dependant on what your goals are. 'Why are there different steroids to begin with?' this is a question you need to think about, and find the answer for. Testosterone was modified into what we have now because each compound elicits a different effect on the body, as far as bodybuilding is concerned muscle growth. If you are competing of course those steroids that tend not to aromatize or are dht based are going to be more beneficial than others that bloat you or aromatize easily. As for straight bulking generally those that cause the best nitrogen balance and protein metabolism are best and desired. Toxicity also a factor we must consider which is why a lot of the time we rotate compounds and don't run certain steroids for more than 6-8 weeks. In reality as I said before in bodybuilding most info on stacking, use etc... is anecdotal. That said, I find benefits in running more than one compound other than straight up test can lead to more solid gains.
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good cycle for lean mass is:
testosterone
trenbolone acetate
masteron prop
growth hormone
dianabol
and for the crazy ones insulin!
now we're talking :D
No need for slin or dball in that "lean" stack add EQ and then you have a winner ;)
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true i wouldnt use slin period though unless i was a pro bb
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rotating compounds every so often can be beneficial, and because of this stacking test with one other roid then alternating that other roid every so often is smart...
This is what I've been doing. On top of that, if you use one steroid for too long it almost feels like you're running nothing at all. The psychological part really gets me. Blast and cruise, blast and cruise. I'm loving it.
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I am also rotating compounds with my test...I've been on tren and winstrol and now I'm going to be switching to masteron...ill switch back to winstrol and tren in the summer...also will be running my test and eq all the way until october
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what about using example omnadren then enanthate..... then again omna then enanthate etc etc or is it all the same shit
also what about from using AI's
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I will rotate to sust,prop,suspensionand cyp before I would touch omnadren
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Been loving sustanon for the last while but going to switch to test enth. Might break down and run some enth and prop. Definitely short esters once I hop onto test/tren/mast though. Gonna be fun. I love test. :)
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Dustin why don't you give german remedies a try? They have test enanthate and prop mixed in
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what about using example omnadren then enanthate..... then again omna then enanthate etc etc or is it all the same shit
also what about from using AI's
I switch it up every now and again, Enanthate, sust, and prop. Will be running some suspension here soon.