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Title: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: musclecenter on February 26, 2010, 08:04:55 AM
Both Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson will compete the Arnold Classic 2010


Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: SF1900 on February 26, 2010, 08:18:33 AM
Nothing but Anator-P70.
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: bebop396 on February 26, 2010, 11:16:47 AM
You know i dont want to sound critical of Branch, im a fan of his crazy strength, but isnt that front press more of an incline press? his ass isnt on the seat so hes at an angle....Still more weight then i can ever dream of doing...
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: spinnis on February 26, 2010, 02:46:43 PM
Branch is OWNING joj in that sitting military/chest press,
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: MJK on February 26, 2010, 02:52:06 PM
Branch is OWNING joj in that sitting military/chest press,
Big time. Reppin 315 like it was nothing. :o
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: Julio Ceasar on February 26, 2010, 04:30:36 PM
I thought JJ was the world strongest bodybuilder :D....
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: Method101 on February 26, 2010, 04:44:01 PM
I thought JJ was the world strongest bodybuilder :D....

LOL exactly  ;D

Hes the worlds strongest bodybuilder out of 2 bodybuilders.
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: Chick on February 26, 2010, 04:44:50 PM
I thought JJ was the world strongest bodybuilder :D....

He is...whats your point?
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: disturbia on February 26, 2010, 05:20:17 PM
o man Branch is unreal strong  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: Stavios on February 26, 2010, 05:20:26 PM
He is...whats your point?

yeah, because they didn't let the real "strongest bodybuilder of the world" compete in their stupid 2 man show  ::)
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: webcake on February 26, 2010, 05:45:55 PM
JOJ is a good deadlifter. There are probably a few bb'ers out there who can beat him in bench/pushing exercises and squats.
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: SF1900 on February 26, 2010, 06:13:43 PM
Haven't they played the whole "JJ is the strongest bodybuilder" card a bit too long?  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: EL Mariachi on February 26, 2010, 08:16:44 PM
branch isnt even sitting on the bench, he's creating an incline benchpress, dude must have a huge ego and insecurities to appear strong on camera, cheater
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: musclecenter on February 26, 2010, 10:48:21 PM
I really don't like the pros always slam or drop the weigtts on floor >:(
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: disturbia on February 26, 2010, 10:56:16 PM
I really don't like the pros always slam or drop the weigtts on floor >:(

ya it is pretty gay when they do that---epic tough man look they try for
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: mesmorph78 on February 27, 2010, 03:19:43 AM
He is...whats your point?
disagree... for me being strong at one or two lifts doesn't make you the strongest nor just being strong at deads squats and bench to earn that ttle u should be strong at everything dumbell press shoulder press row etc etc IMO branch is stronger. And so are quite a few other bbers
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: spinnis on February 27, 2010, 03:22:04 AM
He is...whats your point?

no hes not.

Efferding Is.  Which he proved in videos right before the "comp" lol.
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: mesmorph78 on February 27, 2010, 03:28:00 AM
Johnnie didn't even get 2 reps on that military with 315 by himself ronnie pressed that for 12 like it was nothing branch although his ass was off the chair repped that like paper. Johnnie is not the strongest bber being strong on deadlift and squat doesn't make you the strongest he pretty much get pwned everywhere else   
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: closeline on February 27, 2010, 03:37:07 AM
I thought JJ was the world strongest bodybuilder :D....

yeah buddy! LOL

not even among the strongest  ;)
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: Van_Bilderass on February 27, 2010, 03:46:43 AM
I hear Chick taught Johnnie that military press technique. All peak contraction.
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: mesmorph78 on February 27, 2010, 04:00:45 AM
yeah buddy! LOL

not even among the strongest  ;)
very true
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: Immortal_Technique on February 27, 2010, 04:04:40 AM
He is...whats your point?
Do you mean in deadlift alone? Cos he clearly isn't a stronger military presser than Branch. Also I've never seen JOJ squat more than maybe 3 and a half plates and Branch does 5 quite regularly on video. I know that is anecdotal and means nothing but at a time when Ronnie was dealifting 800lb, benching 495 and front squatting 6 plates JOJ was claiming strongest pro status, seems pretty weird to me, even of he can beat one guy Ben White in one lift.
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: JasonH on February 27, 2010, 04:57:04 AM
When are these guys gonna stop yelling "LIGHTWEIGHT!"

 Is it just me or is it getting kind of played out?

Yeah, it's about time we had some new slogans to shout while we're bodybuilding.
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: tim22 on February 27, 2010, 06:16:33 AM
He is...whats your point?
  the point is clearly he isnt maybe in the deadlift and that is debatable. what did he bench 540 if that against ben white most pros i said most not all that have any size have benched five hundred or more at one time and they dont claim to be the strongest . hell i seen a video of kia green do 5 plate =485 for 5 and doensnt even claim anything abount his strenght
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: Immortal_Technique on February 27, 2010, 06:25:33 AM
  the point is clearly he isnt maybe in the deadlift and that is debatable. what did he bench 540 if that against ben white most pros i said most not all that have any size have benched five hundred or more at one time and they dont claim to be the strongest . hell i seen a video of kia green do 5 plate =485 for 5 and doensnt even claim anything abount his strenght

x2, no way could JOJ do this (fast forward to 7:00), and Kai doesn't even mention his own strength.



I don't blame JOJ for taking the marketing approach he has, but it's simply not true that he is even in the top 5 strongest BBs in the world. Apart from maybe deadlift.
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: Julio Ceasar on February 27, 2010, 06:50:46 AM
He is...whats your point?

Haha based on what? Muscletech commercial?
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: SF1900 on February 27, 2010, 07:00:31 AM
Haha based on what? Muscletech commercial?

Hold on!! Are you implying that Muscle-Tech commercials are all bullshit. I will have you know that Anator-P70 changed my genetic make-up.
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: rccs on February 27, 2010, 11:31:16 AM
JOJ is a good deadlifter. There are probably a few bb'ers out there who can beat him in bench/pushing exercises and squats.
Stan Efferding (would eat jj alive), Ronnie Coleman, etc, etc
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: mesmorph78 on February 27, 2010, 02:18:35 PM
From videos bbers who are stronger that joj ... Coleman kovacs levrone cormier I'd even throw shawn in there too.  One exercise doesn't make you the strongest bber
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: Chick on February 27, 2010, 02:38:22 PM
yeah, because they didn't let the real "strongest bodybuilder of the world" compete in their stupid 2 man show  ::)

Strongest IFBB pro in the world means that one must have COMPETED as a pro, which Stan the man hadnt done to that point....now he is eligable, which will make for a great challenge this year...

There were no other takers...

Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: rccs on February 27, 2010, 02:47:25 PM
Strongest IFBB pro in the world means that one must have COMPETED as a pro, which Stan the man hadnt done to that point....now he is eligable, which will make for a great challenge this year...

There were no other takers...


Stan is probably the strongest bber ever IMO...
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: Stavios on February 27, 2010, 03:39:29 PM
Strongest IFBB pro in the world means that one must have COMPETED as a pro, which Stan the man hadnt done to that point....now he is eligable, which will make for a great challenge this year...

There were no other takers...



Come on Bob that was a shitty contest.

Also, JOJ said he won't compete in this year's challenge (because he knows he will lose)

I don't give a shit about who is the strongest, I just think JOJ is a coward
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: Stavios on February 27, 2010, 03:48:48 PM
Strongest IFBB pro in the world means that one must have COMPETED as a pro, which Stan the man hadnt done to that point....now he is eligable, which will make for a great challenge this year...

There were no other takers...



BTW, your argument doesn't even make sense.

Stan applied for a pro card, so he was an IFBB Pro.
Even if he would never compete, he would still be an IFBB Pro because he has his pro card.


that's like saying: Ok so to compete at the Pheonix Pro, you need to be a pro. But you can't compete because you have never competed before ?
it's stupid, it was clearly because JOJ and Ben White were scared shitless of Efferding.

Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: Lion666 on February 27, 2010, 06:18:23 PM
I really don't like the pros always slam or drop the weigtts on floor >:(

same here but they may just do that for dramatic effect for the vids...
most of the time,,, if you cant rack unrack properly it's too heavy... ok for once in a while but if your doin that all the time,,, injury chance has to increase...

also,,, they're pros, with that said looks like branch does all his reps in everything ballistic,,, he must feel confident with his tricep, i know its been a while so.... does anyone know if branch always did those ballistic reps or is this recent,,, how did he tear his tri again?
he looked strong on that front press too btw... surprised he moved it that quick on the bottom...
surprised their shoulders are still intact.  that's a lot of front delt work there.

noticed they did front raises thumbs up as opposed to palms down,,, i used to do palms down during the 1st 3 years of training then dropped them cause they made my shoulders start to hurt... i was thinking about throwing them back in cause its been like 7 yrs now and heard that thumbs up is the safer way to do them,,, anyone with actual experience,,,  chick, anyone, etc.  know its a training question but i'm already in this post, lol.
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: G_Thang on February 27, 2010, 06:31:53 PM
BBing  ???

Hardcore This n That  ???

Strongest BBer  ???

Lite Weight (Ronnie the exception)  ???

Olympic Sport  ???

Gotta stop this nonsense first...

Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: Lion666 on February 27, 2010, 07:31:38 PM
BBing  ???

Hardcore This n That  ???

Strongest BBer  ???

Lite Weight (Ronnie the exception)  ???

Olympic Sport  ???

Gotta stop this nonsense first...


true but it's part of the biz... he prob made about a grand for that vid that took maybe an hour to shoot from when he got there to when he left so including travel, maybe and hour both ways and another hour being 2 total and to wear more than what he wears to compete in not a bad day.  bb'rs are used to showing off their bodies so this isn't that much of a stretch,,, exhibitionists do it all the time for me,,, some are "affluent" people and have garbage bodies so...
and no one can take jj's strength away...
again, part of the biz... people do a lot worse than that...
how many do nothing housewives just layed there to get pregnant, to get & keep a paycheck...  and how many chumps go along with it because it's a girl with her legs and hole spread for him,,, almost anytime he wants or complains enough... and how many of those guys cry when they bust... i mean get real.  who cares about jj prancin & dancin for schmoes &/or ladies... it's the biz and won't change. 
again, people do worse for free and ain't even built so... lol
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: Chick on February 28, 2010, 05:14:22 AM
BTW, your argument doesn't even make sense.

Stan applied for a pro card, so he was an IFBB Pro.
Even if he would never compete, he would still be an IFBB Pro because he has his pro card.


that's like saying: Ok so to compete at the Pheonix Pro, you need to be a pro. But you can't compete because you have never competed before ?
it's stupid, it was clearly because JOJ and Ben White were scared shitless of Efferding.



First, it's not an argument, its a fact.

You're not a "pro" until youve competed as a pro...simple as that. Having a pro card makes you eligable to compete as a professional in the Pro League....calling yourself a pro when never actually competing as one would be ludicrious.

The rules we came up with for this title were put in place to insure some sort of level playing field...

That said, judging by your response, you obviously dont know how the pro card system works...when one wins a pro qualifier, you actually have to submit for approval for a pro card, it's not automatic, and contingent on your ability to actually step on stage and compete.
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: Immortal_Technique on February 28, 2010, 10:45:26 AM
Man I don't know nothing about this shiz. I thought when you got your pro card you were a pro.

On the plus side me and my friend had a competition called "world's strongest human". Only me and him entered but I won. Since I won the title of "world's strongest human" I can now call myself The World's Strongest Human, because if you win a competition with that title you don't actually have to worry about whether the statement in the title is true.

Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: mesmorph78 on February 28, 2010, 11:07:21 AM
Johnnie strong dead that is it
every article or video with branch baranch destroys him look in that vid branch repped 315 luke lapsed johnnie had help from rep one so bow in samhill is johnnie the strongest bber the strongest bber was cleman at his prime taking nothing from efferdine his lifts so far have been at meets Coleman lifts were never max he was working out johnnie is not even top 5 strongest
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: Pecs on February 28, 2010, 11:10:56 AM
Man I don't know nothing about this shiz. I thought when you got your pro card you were a pro.

On the plus side me and my friend had a competition called "world's strongest human". Only me and him entered but I won. Since I won the title of "world's strongest human" I can now call myself The World's Strongest Human, because if you win a competition with that title you don't actually have to worry about whether the statement in the title is true.



good one!
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: Pecs on February 28, 2010, 11:12:23 AM
JJ is only strong in the deadlift...... thats about it.
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: Flexb on February 28, 2010, 11:34:46 AM
true but it's part of the biz... he prob made about a grand for that vid that took maybe an hour to shoot from when he got there to when he left so including travel, maybe and hour both ways and another hour being 2 total and to wear more than what he wears to compete in not a bad day.  bb'rs are used to showing off their bodies so this isn't that much of a stretch,,, exhibitionists do it all the time for me,,, some are "affluent" people and have garbage bodies so...
and no one can take jj's strength away...
again, part of the biz... people do a lot worse than that...
how many do nothing housewives just layed there to get pregnant, to get & keep a paycheck...  and how many chumps go along with it because it's a girl with her legs and hole spread for him,,, almost anytime he wants or complains enough... and how many of those guys cry when they bust... i mean get real.  who cares about jj prancin & dancin for schmoes &/or ladies... it's the biz and won't change. 
again, people do worse for free and ain't even built so... lol


They get paid more than that. I was offered 5 g's with travel and accommodations covered obviously. 2 days in Miami to shoot for Muscle Gallery. I thought about it but realized it was more than a couple pics taken in a posing suit.
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: Flexb on February 28, 2010, 11:38:35 AM
Stan should be called the World's most muscular powerlifter. Bodybuilding is his second job
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: Lion666 on February 28, 2010, 11:46:13 AM
They get paid more than that. I was offered 5 g's with travel and accommodations covered obviously. 2 days in Miami to shoot for Muscle Gallery. I thought about it but realized it was more than a couple pics taken in a posing suit.

exactly,,, you get my point to though...
i mean,,, yeah some stuff is questionable and sometimes of course theres more involved, however it's the biz and people in it expect it.  they get paid more than 5k for that stuff,,, so when some people out in usa work 52 40hr wks and make 25k-30k for that,,, some of these guys get a chance to make a 1/3 to 1/2 that in a days or two.. to prance around and gyrate .. of course thery take it... (maybe they figure i move more 4x-8x the amount of weight a normal guy does so, whos he to judge). i mean i know this is getbig where everyone is a fortune 500 guy that makes 25k in a bad week benches 700lbs for reps 1000lb dl and 1500lb squat but to meer mortals living below those high rises,,, 5k is a good take.
who cares what anybody does to make a living, unless you intend to do business with someone... but who cares,,, really.
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: dyslexic on February 28, 2010, 11:51:48 AM
I really don't like the pros always slam or drop the weigtts on floor >:(



Uhhhhhhhhhhh... you should walk up to them and tell them.
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: Palpatine Q on February 28, 2010, 12:10:09 PM
Man I don't know nothing about this shiz. I thought when you got your pro card you were a pro.

On the plus side me and my friend had a competition called "world's strongest human". Only me and him entered but I won. Since I won the title of "world's strongest human" I can now call myself The World's Strongest Human, because if you win a competition with that title you don't actually have to worry about whether the statement in the title is true.



He is a pro.....Bob just CAN NEVER BE WRONG, so he posted some nonsense
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: lastrep on February 28, 2010, 12:16:23 PM
He is...whats your point?

hahahahahahahah.. he is?? Based on what? I bet there are a dozen "bodybuilders" that are stronger than JJ, starting with mariusz pudzianowski (yes.. he IS a bodybuilder)
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on February 28, 2010, 01:53:24 PM


Uhhhhhhhhhhh... you should walk up to them and tell them.

Just throw a dumbbell in their face and say ooops. This sometimes happens when I throw these things around...
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: _bruce_ on February 28, 2010, 02:41:22 PM
branch isnt even sitting on the bench, he's creating an incline benchpress, dude must have a huge ego and insecurities to appear strong on camera, cheater

Branch = the ultimate in momentum
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: mesmorph78 on February 28, 2010, 02:51:30 PM
How can you call yourself strongest bber and your training partner does like 15+ reps easy and u need help from the first rep Cormier ray levrone would eat johnnie for breakfast I'm not even gonna mention Coleman  johnne strongest deAd lift. Maybe
strongest pro not even in top 10
Title: Re: Branch Warren & Johnnie Jackson Shoulder Training (new video footage)
Post by: newmom on February 28, 2010, 03:05:47 PM
Branch = the ultimate in momentum

hell yes