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Who here is a fan of this individual?
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Probably just the Nation of Islam
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Minister Farrakhan is great but he is not someone you can really understand unless you know his work. The media loves to take his words out of context and distort the meaning of what he is saying.
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Who here is a fan of this individual?
I am a fan for comedic purposes only.
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One of the most amusing individuals who has ever lived.If you listen to his speech from the million man march,it is one of the funniest,most insane rambling pieces of insanity of all time.I actually like him.At least with him I know he hates whites right to my face instead of being a gutless,spineless cowardly scum bag like Hussein Obama who does it behind my back and smiles his blue gummed grin to my face.
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One of the most amusing individuals who has ever lived.If you listen to his speech from the million man march,it is one of the funniest,most insane rambling pieces of insanity of all time.I actually like him.At least with him I know he hates whites right to my face instead of being a gutless,spineless cowardly scum bag like Hussein Obama who does it behind my back and smiles his blue gummed grin to my face.
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Minister Farrakhan is great but he is not someone you can really understand unless you know his work. The media loves to take his words out of context and distort the meaning of what he is saying.
uM, great? His words taken out of context?? "WHITIE" IS OUT OF CONTEXT?? "Ok, guy". Oh sorry... you took that out of context. Yeah, that happens... everyone gets the benefit of the doubt. just ask Imus. :o ??? ::)
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uM, great? His words taken out of context?? "WHITIE" IS OUT OF CONTEXT?? "Ok, guy". Oh sorry... you took that out of context. Yeah, that happens... everyone gets the benefit of the doubt. just ask Imus. :o ??? ::)
He has said many times that he would not have to talk about race if race were not made into something that needs to be talked about.
If you want to disagree with some of his language, that is fine. There is no word a a black person can use towards a white person that has the same power and meaning as a white person using the N word.
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He has said many times that he would not have to talk about race if race were not made into something that needs to be talked about.
If you want to disagree with some of his language, that is fine. There is no word a a black person can use towards a white person that has the same power and meaning as a white person using the N work.
Maybe when he stops talking about the mother ship and wheel in the sky people will take him a little more seriously.
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If you don't like what he has to say than don't listen to him.
The fact remains that he has done more for the black community than anyone else has ever done. He is also one of the most brilliant leaders in America, and the only black man on earth who can give a four-hour speech and have the audience hanging on his every word. Most of those who feel that Farrakhan is silly or ignorant are judging him on soundbites and nothing more. He reforms lives in unprecedented numbers.
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If you don't like what he has to say than don't listen to him.
The fact remains that he has done more for the black community than anyone else has ever done. He is also one of the most brilliant leaders in America, and the only black man on earth who can give a four-hour speech and have the audience hanging on his every word. Most of those who feel that Farrakhan is silly or ignorant are judging him on soundbites and nothing more. He reforms lives in unprecedented numbers.
If you asked those followers what he said in those 4 hours you would get blank stares.The insane numerology his rantings.The man is a lunatic.However,not a surprise that he is viewed as a great black leader.It shows how pathetic the black leaders really are.The idea that you make a hero of the guy behind the shooting of Malcolm X is incredible.
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If you asked those followers what he said in those 4 hours you would get blank stares.The insane numerology his rantings.The man is a lunatic.However,not a surprise that he is viewed as a great black leader.It shows how pathetic the black leaders really are.The idea that you make a hero of the guy behind the shooting of Malcolm X is incredible.
The idea that you think Minister Farrakhan is the guy behind the death of Malcolm is incredible.
Don't forget to bring up that he also called Hitler "a great man" or that he has called Jews "bloodsuckers of the black community". ::)
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How about this then
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How about this then
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What about it? Thats what he was doing before he came to the NOI.
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nothing but a hack grasping on to the race card for dear life, and the fact that these crowds show up just means that there are still many people so dependant on the racecard that an idiot like him can play this trickary on stupid people, that really have the race issue
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What about it? Thats what he was doing before he came to the NOI.
Oh yes the NOI now there is a class organization ::)
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nothing but a hack grasping on to the race card for dear life, and the fact that these crowds show up just means that there are still many people so dependant on the racecard that an idiot like him can play this trickary on stupid people, that really have the race issue
He is neither racist or playing the race card. He is dealing issues of systemic and institutional racism which has destroyed and continues to destroy the black community.
If you want to say he is prejudice than that is fine. Prejudice and racist are not the same.
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The idea that you think Minister Farrakhan is the guy behind the death of Malcolm is incredible.
Don't forget to bring up that he also called Hitler "a great man" or that he has called Jews "bloodsuckers of the black community". ::)
I never said it,followers of Malcolm X said it.You can love him all you want.I find him to be an amusing usefull idiot leading a dead movement.
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I never said it,followers of Malcolm X said it.You can love him all you want.I find him to be an amusing usefull idiot leading a dead movement.
A dead movement? Over 20,000 showed up to hear him speak last sunday.
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A dead movement? Over 20,000 showed up to hear him speak last sunday.
Jim Jones also attracted large crowds.
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of course, black people gather to listen to someone talk about race and he is soooo smart and a leader and everything else, if these were whites it would be called a terrorist kkk hate meeting and fucktard sharpton and jessie jackson would have them facing criminal charges.
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of course, black people gather to listen to someone talk about race and he is soooo smart and a leader and everything else, if these were whites it would be called a terrorist kkk hate meeting and fucktard sharpton and jessie jackson would have them facing criminal charges.
White people were not brought here against their will, robbed of their names, families, religion, culture, ect., so your analogy does not work.
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He has said many times that he would not have to talk about race if race were not made into something that needs to be talked about.
If you want to disagree with some of his language, that is fine. There is no word a a black person can use towards a white person that has the same power and meaning as a white person using the N word.
You MUST be smoking crack CC... This man, like Sharpton, Jackson, Rev. Butts, and others like them ALL LIVE OFF OF RACE!! If race wasn't made into an issue, they wouldn't talk about it.. OMG, what a line. If that isn't self preservation I don't know what is.
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If you don't like what he has to say than don't listen to him.
The fact remains that he has done more for the black community than anyone else has ever done. He is also one of the most brilliant leaders in America, and the only black man on earth who can give a four-hour speech and have the audience hanging on his every word. Most of those who feel that Farrakhan is silly or ignorant are judging him on soundbites and nothing more. He reforms lives in unprecedented numbers.
Same goes with Imus, same goes for Jimmy the Greek, same goes for... and the list of NON BLACK people who made comments regarding blacks, but for some reason they were forced to lose their jobs, their livelihoods and all that. But of course, if you don't like what Farrakkan says, don't listen to him... Ain't that a kick... ::)
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White people were not brought here against their will, robbed of their names, families, religion, culture, ect., so your analogy does not work.
Ok, but the issue is where do we go from here no?
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He is neither racist or playing the race card. He is dealing issues of systemic and institutional racism which has destroyed and continues to destroy the black community.
If you want to say he is prejudice than that is fine. Prejudice and racist are not the same.
Ok, but blaming whitie for this instead of looking internally for the REAL reason why the black community is failing is not serving his community but only contributing to its further destruction.
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A dead movement? Over 20,000 showed up to hear him speak last sunday.
Right... that figure was about the same for the "million-man march"... I guess this is the new math I hear soo much about. ??? ::)
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Ok, but blaming whitie for this instead of looking internally for the REAL reason why the black community is failing is not serving his community but only contributing to its further destruction.
We need a few million more Clarence Thomas', Colin Powells, Star Parker, Condi Rices, Tyler Perrys, Tony Dingey's, Walter williams, Thomas Sowells, and far less Farakhans, Sharptons, Jacksons, etc.
Clarence Thomas, Walter Williams, Thomas sowell, are brilliant men whom most black people probably dont know much about.
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of course, black people gather to listen to someone talk about race and he is soooo smart and a leader and everything else, if these were whites it would be called a terrorist kkk hate meeting and fucktard sharpton and jessie jackson would have them facing criminal charges.
exactly. The double standard is there. Just not what they want you to believe exists. Imagine trying to start a magazine called "Caucasion"? Or produce a movie titled; "Black Men Can't Read"? No?? Me neither....
But, we got "Ebony" and "White Men Can't Jump"... Chris Rock, Waynes Bro's and many other black comedians all make serious jokes about the white race and it goes unfeddered. Double standard and it is racist.
But someone says; Knappy-headed Hoes..." and the world comes to an end, KKK images are revisioned and protests are abound...
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no, black people want to hang on to that and use it as long as possible if they can as long as it suits them and there victim agenda i know many blacks that could care less about that shit and what these old hacks talk about cause its over and has been for 60 years, . as long as people like that still bring it up and cry and use it for an excuse there will always be racism
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no, black people want to hang on to that and use it as long as possible if they can as long as it suits them and there victim agenda i know many blacks that could care less about that shit and what these old hacks talk about cause its over and has been for 60 years, . as long as people like that still bring it up and cry and use it for an excuse there will always be racism
How do you guys feel about when a Black person says, "You guys owe us?" ::) ::)
I just turn away and say nothing because i did not do jack to any Black person or their ancestors.
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i ask them what has been done to you personaly, not your great great great granny but you. how have you been persecuted, and what rights do i have that you dont here in america in 2010?
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Ok, but blaming whitie for this instead of looking internally for the REAL reason why the black community is failing is not serving his community but only contributing to its further destruction.
Based on this statement, I am concluding that you have never heard Louis Farrakhan speak.
I would sincerely urge you to attend one of his talks if the opportunity presents itself.
You might be very pleasantly surprised to find you have much in common with him.
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How do you guys feel about when a Black person says, "You guys owe us?" ::) ::)
I just turn away and say nothing because i did not do jack to any Black person or their ancestors.
But that is what has been fed to the "hood" for years by people like Jackson, Sharpton and other so-called leaders of the black community. These people are led to believe the large corporations that can be drwan back to have owned slaves 200 years ago think they owe them. These same people are the ones who refuse to work, or are the puppets of the leaders we are speaking about.
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Based on this statement, I am concluding that you have never heard Louis Farrakhan speak.
I would sincerely urge you to attend one of his talks if the opportunity presents itself.
You might be very pleasantly surprised to find you have much in common with him.
Jag: I will attend one of his pleasantly suprising events when you attend one of those uplifting KKK rallies.
Please Jag. I know of you on this site and you seem to be intelligent, too much so to even begin to defend this slimeball racist.
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i have read many things he wrote and said, I have also read many things and listened to mlk, the two are nothing alike, mlk truly wanted EQUIL RIGHTS AND OPPRITUNITIES luis wants that plus special treatment due to history and he promotes the victim role and for people to still dwell on things that happened 60 or more years ago. get over it and move on. think if the newhaven firefighters started holding rallies when the white guys were denied raises cause a few black guys couldn't pass it, they would have been labeled kkk by the black community and sharpton and jackson would never let that die off until they got fired
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Jag: I will attend one of his pleasantly suprising events when you attend one of those uplifting KKK rallies.
Please Jag. I know of you on this site and you seem to be intelligent, too much so to even begin to defend this slimeball racist.
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i have read many things he wrote and said, I have also read many things and listened to mlk, the two are nothing alike, mlk truly wanted EQUIL RIGHTS AND OPPRITUNITIES luis wants that plus special treatment due to history and he promotes the victim role and for people to still dwell on things that happened 60 or more years ago. get over it and move on. think if the newhaven firefighters started holding rallies when the white guys were denied raises cause a few black guys couldn't pass it, they would have been labeled kkk by the black community and sharpton and jackson would never let that die off until they got fired
Well said. Until the black community repeals this victim mentality they will continue to have the same issues that plague them for the last 100 years.
It AINT WHITIE'S FAULT! Stop blaming WHITIE, Louie! Whitie didn't cause the black man to run from his responsibilities after he knocked up three seperate women. It ain't WHITIE'S fault that caused the three black teens to rob that Korean grocery last night on 125th and Amsterdam... NEWS FLASH--- It's FAMILY that will solve these ills.
Whitie AIN'T SH!T AND UNTIL this is realized in the Black Community, it will continue to allow for slime like Far-a-CON, Sharpton, Rangle, Butts, and others to shine.
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Well said. Until the black community repeals this victim mentality they will continue to have the same issues that plague them for the last 100 years.
It AINT WHITIE'S FAULT! Stop blaming WHITIE, Louie! Whitie didn't cause the black man to run from his responsibilities after he knocked up three seperate women. It ain't WHITIE'S fault that caused the three black teens to rob that Korean grocery last night on 125th and Amsterdam... NEWS FLASH--- It's FAMILY that will solve these ills.
Whitie AIN'T SH!T AND UNTIL this is realized in the Black Community, it will continue to allow for slime like Far-a-CON, Sharpton, Rangle, Butts, and others to shine.
12secGT = firing on all cylinders today!
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12secGT = firing on all cylinders today!
;D Get me a towel! hahaha..
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First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known. Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.
Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the ' 60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream. Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks -- with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas -- to advance black applicants over white applicants. Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated their time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.
We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude???
Barack talks about new 'ladders of opportunity' for blacks. Let him go to Altoona ? And Johnstown , and ask the white kids in Catholic schools how many were visited lately by Ivy League recruiters handing out scholarships for 'deserving' white kids.? Is white America really responsible for the fact that the crime and incarceration rates for African-Americans are seven times those of white America ? Is it really white America 's fault that illegitimacy in the African-American community has hit 70 percent and the black dropout rate from high schools in some cities has reached 50 percent?
Is that the fault of white America or, first and foremost, a failure of the black community itself?
As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in interracial crime, and especially interracial crimes of violence. Is Barack Obama aware that while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the time, black criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time?
We have all heard ad nauseam from the Rev. Al about Tawana Brawley, the Duke rape case and Jena . And all turned out to be hoaxes. But about the epidemic of black assaults on whites that are real, we hear nothing.
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Well done BodyPro!
Yes, there is work to do. No Doubt. But I agree. This is the greatest country in the world. It has done many good deeds that need to be honored, not chastized by the likes of these parasites.
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Jag: I will attend one of his pleasantly suprising events when you attend one of those uplifting KKK rallies.
Please Jag. I know of you on this site and you seem to be intelligent, too much so to even begin to defend this slimeball racist.
12secGT, I like you had formed opinions about Louis Farrakhan, based on what I had heard in the main stream media, and based on cherry picked sound bytes. I had absolutely no desire to hear the man say anything whatsoever.
one year, my sister begged me to come with her, and hear the man speak for myself. I had absolutely no desire to do so, and felt as much revulsion to do so as I would to attend a KKK rally. The only reasons I went, were:1. I was doing it for my sister, 2. I knew I wouldn't be in any physical danger.
It was an incredibly eye-opening and mind blowing experience on sooo many levels. It was extremely revealing... not just about Farrakhan, but also about the main stream media, as well as powerful agendas at play who exert tremendous power & control over MSM, the government, and most aspects of our lives.
There was no anti-semitism, as I had come to expect, and Mr Farrakhan spoke about the problems he saw in the world, and more specifically the problems he saw within the black community.
I saw Blacks, Whites, Asians, Jews with yarmulkes, every race & nationality present at this talk. At the start of the talk I saw Jews hostile, defensive, and extremely stiff in their body language waiting to rip him to pieces. By the end of his talk, I saw these same Jews standing on chairs, cheering every word coming out of his mouth. His words were blunt, straightforward, and were not minced. He had some stinging rebukes for many. The majority of his criticism was aimed at the predominant demographic in the crowd; the Black community. I will freely admit that if anyone else said the things Farrakhan says about the Black community, ...it probably would not go over so well or be so well received.
It was standing room only. There were thousands turned away because the venues capacity (the harbourfront convention centre) only held so much, and organizers didn't want the event shut down due to a fire code regulation. As a result, his talk was broadcast through loudspeakers to the thousands outside.
Ironically, there was no publicity surrounding Farrakhan appearance. news spread by word of mouth, and within 48 hrs, thousands showed up. I found that pretty astonishing considering the fact that politicians can barely get a few hundreds to show up with months of advance publicity.
What I found especially shocking was the next day when his speech was reported on in the newspaper.
The photographer took a picture of the empty hall prior to the speech. The only person sitting in the hall at that time was a very pregnant NOI woman dressed in white garb, a mother of 4 with one on the way. I had met her earlier. A very nice lady with an incredibly extraordinary serene calmness about her. She had 4 small children all under 6, including a 10 month old baby in her arms, and she was 7 months pregnant. Rather than having her wait in line standing on her feet, they allowed her advanced entrance into the room. I distinctly remember her because I was awestruck by her family, and her regal "serenity" for want of a better word, and by how calm, well behaved, and disciplined her children were. I had never seen children so incredibly polite, respectful, and well behaved. It truly was a sight to behold and experience. Anyway, the artcile that accompanied the picture, said no one showed up for the talk, and that Farrakhan was left spewing his anti-semitic vitriol to the choir. And the picture showed a lone woman with an infant in her arms, and row upon row, upon row of empty seats. The coverage of his talk was a very eye-opening event for me. I was very glad I attended, and I was very glad I got to read the coverage of the event I attended. I vowed at that point to do my own investigations and never again to allow myself to be "informed" about others by the news media. I would do my own investigation.
I don't know how many of you were around or even politically aware at the time of the million man march, ...but for those of you who were... do you remember CNN's "non-existent" coverage of the event? Do you remember the rhetoric leading up to and surrounding the event? Do you remember Wolf blizter's demeanor at the start? Do you remember Wolf Blizter's demeanor at the end? That in itself was extremely revealing in and of itself.
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Why dont you post one of these earth moving speeches?
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Until the black community repeals this victim mentality they will continue to have the same issues that plague them for the last 100 years.
It AINT WHITIE'S FAULT! Stop blaming WHITIE, Louie! Whitie didn't cause the black man to run from his responsibilities after he knocked up three seperate women. It ain't WHITIE'S fault that caused the three black teens to rob that Korean grocery last night on 125th and Amsterdam... NEWS FLASH--- It's FAMILY that will solve these ills.
Whitie AIN'T SH!T AND UNTIL this is realized in the Black Community, it will continue to allow for slime like Far-a-CON, Sharpton, Rangle, Butts, and others to shine.
With the exception of the edit I made to your quote, ...if I didn't know any better,
...I'd swear Louis Farrakhan was speaking. ;D I think I'm gonna start calling you Louis from now on. ;) ;D
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12secGT, I like you had formed opinions about Louis Farrakhan, based on what I had heard in the main stream media, and based on cherry picked sound bytes. I had absolutely no desire to hear the man say anything whatsoever.
one year, my sister begged me to come with her, and hear the man speak for myself. I had absolutely no desire to do so, and felt as much revulsion to do so as I would to attend a KKK rally. The only reasons I went, were:1. I was doing it for my sister, 2. I knew I wouldn't be in any physical danger.
It was an incredibly eye-opening and mind blowing experience on sooo many levels. It was extremely revealing... not just about Farrakhan, but also about the main stream media, as well as powerful agendas at play who exert tremendous power & control over MSM, the government, and most aspects of our lives.
There was no anti-semitism, as I had come to expect, and Mr Farrakhan spoke about the problems he saw in the world, and more specifically the problems he saw within the black community.
I saw Blacks, Whites, Asians, Jews with yarmulkes, every race & nationality present at this talk. At the start of the talk I saw Jews hostile, defensive, and extremely stiff in their body language waiting to rip him to pieces. By the end of his talk, I saw these same Jews standing on chairs, cheering every word coming out of his mouth. His words were blunt, straightforward, and were not minced. He had some stinging rebukes for many. The majority of his criticism was aimed at the predominant demographic in the crowd; the Black community. I will freely admit that if anyone else said the things Farrakhan says about the Black community, ...it probably would not go over so well or be so well received.
It was standing room only. There were thousands turned away because the venues capacity (the harbourfront convention centre) only held so much, and organizers didn't want the event shut down due to a fire code regulation. As a result, his talk was broadcast through loudspeakers to the thousands outside.
Ironically, there was no publicity surrounding Farrakhan appearance. news spread by word of mouth, and within 48 hrs, thousands showed up. I found that pretty astonishing considering the fact that politicians can barely get a few hundreds to show up with months of advance publicity.
What I found especially shocking was the next day when his speech was reported on in the newspaper.
The photographer took a picture of the empty hall prior to the speech. The only person sitting in the hall at that time was a very pregnant NOI woman dressed in white garb, a mother of 4 with one on the way. I had met her earlier. A very nice lady with an incredibly extraordinary serene calmness about her. She had 4 small children all under 6, including a 10 month old baby in her arms, and she was 7 months pregnant. Rather than having her wait in line standing on her feet, they allowed her advanced entrance into the room. I distinctly remember her because I was awestruck by her family, and her regal "serenity" for want of a better word, and by how calm, well behaved, and disciplined her children were. I had never seen children so incredibly polite, respectful, and well behaved. It truly was a sight to behold and experience. Anyway, the artcile that accompanied the picture, said no one showed up for the talk, and that Farrakhan was left spewing his anti-semitic vitriol to the choir. And the picture showed a lone woman with an infant in her arms, and row upon row, upon row of empty seats. The coverage of his talk was a very eye-opening event for me. I was very glad I attended, and I was very glad I got to read the coverage of the event I attended. I vowed at that point to do my own investigations and never again to allow myself to be "informed" about others by the news media. I would do my own investigation.
I don't know how many of you were around or even politically aware at the time of the million man march, ...but for those of you who were... do you remember CNN's "non-existent" coverage of the event? Do you remember the rhetoric leading up to and surrounding the event? Do you remember Wolf blizter's demeanor at the start? Do you remember Wolf Blizter's demeanor at the end? That in itself was extremely revealing in and of itself.
Maybe then Jag you agree that white christians wnat Obama Assassinated? Maybe you feel the jews are the real problem around the world? Sound bytes are not what I have only heard. Can I say I have attended anything this man has held? No. I would never do anything of the sort. Sorry Jag. You are entitled to your opinion on Uncle Louie. If this man was soo "good" and "uplifing" and "inspiring" then I feel he wouldn't be such an outcast.
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With the exception of the edit I made to your quote, ...if I didn't know any better,
...I'd swear Louis Farrakhan was speaking. ;D I think I'm gonna start calling you Louis from now on. ;) ;D
Jaguar is mixing the Kool Aid right now... :o ;D
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Jaguar is mixing the Kool Aid right now... :o ;D
You mean gas pills? :o :o :o
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Why dont you post one of these earth moving speeches?
I would love to see these uncut speaches myself too.. paging youtube...
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Why dont you post one of these earth moving speeches?
WTF Dude, do you think I have some sort of Farrakhan collection? I'm not one of his followers.
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Maybe then Jag you agree that white christians wnat Obama Assassinated? Maybe you feel the jews are the real problem around the world? Sound bytes are not what I have only heard. Can I say I have attended anything this man has held? No. I would never do anything of the sort. Sorry Jag.
I said the exact same thing... but my sister made me do it for her. Do you have a sister? :D
You are entitled to your opinion on Uncle Louie. If this man was soo "good" and "uplifing" and "inspiring" then I feel he wouldn't be such an outcast.
I suppose the same reasoning could have applied to Ron Paul during the Republican primaries huh? ;)
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WTF Dude, do you think I have some sort of Farrakhan collection? I'm not one of his followers.
Come on.. you have library... we know. Alphabetically labled too ;D
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Come on.. you have library... we know. Alphabetically labled too ;D
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I said the exact same thing... but my sister made me do it for her. Do you have a sister? :D
I suppose the same reasoning could have applied to Ron Paul during the Republican primaries huh? ;)
I do have a sister. She could care the less! ahhaa.
Ron Paul had some good points. The problem with Ron Paul was he wasn't appealing enough. It is too bad you need to be "appealing" to get noticed. I guess Obama would never have been elected.
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Jag: So what are you? Conservative leaning, liberal, centrist? I am curious as I don't think you are too far off from me. Or, maybe you are?
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Jag: So what are you? Conservative leaning, liberal, centrist? I am curious as I don't think you are too far off from me. Or, maybe you are?
I'm a Canadian centrist, which means I vote for the Liberal Party of Canada which is fiscally right, & socially left.
I like Republican ideals, ...however I dislike those in the Republican party and what it has come to stand for.
I tend to lean conservative in my views, however in examining the problems & challenges of the world today, I believe more & more solutions to today's issues & challenges, and many of tommorrows can best be addressed by a move towards the left... to bring this back into balance.
While ideologically a conservative, I don't believe conservatism goes far enough to address the issues we face, or to prevent deeper issues from coming to the forefront, so quite frequently I can be found voting for the party with the right solutions for society overall.
I like Ron Paul's idea of abolishing the Federal Reserve. I think alot of our issues can be solved by that one move alone.
When I took the political spectrum test, it showed me as a moderate left Libertarian.
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I'm a Canadian centrist, which means I vote for the Liberal Party of Canada which is fiscally right, & socially left.
I like Republican ideals, ...however I dislike those in the Republican party and what it has come to stand for.
I tend to lean conservative in my views, however in examining the problems & challenges of the world today, I believe more & more solutions to today's issues & challenges, and many of tommorrows can best be addressed by a move towards the left... to bring this back into balance.
While ideologically a conservative, I don't believe conservatism goes far enough to address the issues we face, or to prevent deeper issues from coming to the forefront, so quite frequently I can be found voting for the party with the right solutions for society overall.
I like Ron Paul's idea of abolishing the Federal Reserve. I think alot of our issues can be solved by that one move alone.
Interesting. I didn't think we are too far off. I agree about the federal reserve. I agree we should pay a flat tax. Regardless of income levels. I am a little skeptical on the left wing having the better answers to today's problems. But I can say the republicans haven't done a good job lately answering them either. I am fiscally conserative, conservative in foriegn policy, and right to middle ground socially. I think that is where we may differ most, though I feel a women has a right to choose, and what you do in your home is your business. But you fell off the deep end when you said 911 was a conspiracy! hahaha.
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Interesting. I didn't think we are too far off. I agree about the federal reserve. I agree we should pay a flat tax. Regardless of income levels. I am a little skeptical on the left wing having the better answers to today's problems. But I can say the republicans haven't done a good job lately answering them either. I am fiscally conserative, conservative in foriegn policy, and right to middle ground socially. I think that is where we may differ most, though I feel a women has a right to choose, and what you do in your home is your business. But you fell off the deep end when you said 911 was a conspiracy! hahaha.
I don't know that I am for a flat tax. A flat tax puts much more of a burden on the poor.
How was there no conspiracy regarding 911?
It is plain as day the officials sought to do everything in their power to prevent a proper investigation of the crime.
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I don't know that I am for a flat tax. A flat tax puts much more of a burden on the poor.
How was there no conspiracy regarding 911?
It is plain as day the officials sought to do everything in their power to prevent a proper investigation of the crime.
The burdon may fall on the poor if you assume the poor remain that way. My point is a flat tax will REDUCE the burdon on those who create jobs, alowing them (us) to keep more of their money. Hence, this means jobs will be created allowing those who do not have jobs and who are seeking them, to find them. It will alow allow those who are at the brink of starting a business, or invest in other ways to do so because they have more free cash to do it with. This can only create wealth. I know this may sound simplistic, but this 4,000 page IRS document that gets reviewed annually isn't exactly working either.
Conspiracy depends on what you believe. Do I believe the gov't covered up the mistakes, and the lack of an effective plan to combat such an attack, and the series of events that allowed 19 hyjackers into this countery to effectively bring it to its knees for months? I will agree. But the conspiracy that missles took out the WTC, and the Pentagon is just silly. If you believe that, Jag. I'm sorry.
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The burdon may fall on the poor if you assume the poor remain that way. My point is a flat tax will REDUCE the burdon on those who create jobs, alowing them (us) to keep more of their money. Hence, this means jobs will be created allowing those who do not have jobs and who are seeking them, to find them. It will alow allow those who are at the brink of starting a business, or invest in other ways to do so because they have more free cash to do it with. This can only create wealth. I know this may sound simplistic, but this 4,000 page IRS document that gets reviewed annually isn't exactly working either.
Conspiracy depends on what you believe. Do I believe the gov't covered up the mistakes, and the lack of an effective plan to combat such an attack, and the series of events that allowed 19 hyjackers into this countery to effectively bring it to its knees for months? I will agree. But the conspiracy that missles took out the WTC, and the Pentagon is just silly. If you believe that, Jag. I'm sorry.
Look Louis, ;)
We are in agreement on 911. I never said missiles took out the WTC. I said the truth of who, what, & how those towers came down is so far unknown, ...but we do know there was a massive government conspiracy to conceal the true events of that day.
please see my quoted words below. Sheesh! I'm dealing with such simpletons. ::) ;)
Proving a conspiracy occurred is not the hard part... that's already been proven.
What's difficult is determining what actually happened on 911.
there is no doubt the gov conspired to conceal the true events of that day.
All that is left to be determined is what, who, & how brought those buildings down.
...except WTC7. What we don't know is why, or when it was rigged, and why it was rigged.
that's the smoking gun.
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i have many doughts of a conspiracy, except on the part of alq and bin ladin on that note yes, they had a huge conspiracy against the usa
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"Truther Jag": ;D
Don't listen to me, listen to EXPERT engineers at Popular Mechanics. They have debunked EVERY THEORY that the conspiracy believers have thrown out there regarding the way the towers fell. It is actually funny because they completely removed all doubt to a point the truthers have gone back to "analyse their data"... Seems they needed to "fit" the facts to their beliefs. The ol' Conspiracy way. Remeber their doubt that the cell phones wouldn't work on those planes?? Guess what? DEBUNKED!
Look, As a Mechanical Engineer myself, graduate of Manhattan College 1993, We studied the design of the WTC on multiple occasions. The design of the towers actually saved lives that day. If it was constructed as your standard slab/column design the towers would have fallen shortly after impact. This was due to the fact the interior support section for the most part did not take the direct hit. Where is a slab/column design would have failed immediately.
WTC7 for your point took direct impact from the falling debris from both Towers. This building was home to many gov't nerve centers, designed that way to thwart the millenium attack that never happened. In that event, there were a number of diesel storage tanks in it's basement and ground floor needed for generators in the event of a wide spread power outtage. Once the shear amount of debris, some million tons of concrete, steel, and other debris fell a 1/4 mile from the sky at over 100 mph, do you really think this building would have survived? Plus, the insuing 1,200* fires weakening the structure, and you think GW was behind it's demo?
Which leads me to a question I always wanted to ask people... If GW Bush was such a stupid idiot, as portrayed by the liberals and other haters, how could he be soo smart to have pulled off what would be the greatest conspiracy the world has ever seen?? And on top of that, these same liberals said 911 was the link to go to war in Iaq. To evenge his pops previous war, and Saddam's failed attempt at assassinating G HW Bush. So, let's recap shall we Truther?? GWB purportrated the biggest coverup in the history of the world, yet his is a bumbling idiot... If that is true, who REALLY are the idiots?? Hum? 8) :o 8)
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"Truther Jag": ;D
Don't listen to me, listen to EXPERT engineers at Popular Mechanics. They have debunked EVERY THEORY that the conspiracy believers have thrown out there regarding the way the towers fell. It is actually funny because they completely removed all doubt to a point the truthers have gone back to "analyse their data"... Seems they needed to "fit" the facts to their beliefs. The ol' Conspiracy way. Remeber their doubt that the cell phones wouldn't work on those planes?? Guess what? DEBUNKED!
Look, As a Mechanical Engineer myself, graduate of Manhattan College 1993, We studied the design of the WTC on multiple occasions. The design of the towers actually saved lives that day. If it was constructed as your standard slab/column design the towers would have fallen shortly after impact. This was due to the fact the interior support section for the most part did not take the direct hit. Where is a slab/column design would have failed immediately.
WTC7 for your point took direct impact from the falling debris from both Towers. This building was home to many gov't nerve centers, designed that way to thwart the millenium attack that never happened. In that event, there were a number of diesel storage tanks in it's basement and ground floor needed for generators in the event of a wide spread power outtage. Once the shear amount of debris, some million tons of concrete, steel, and other debris fell a 1/4 mile from the sky at over 100 mph, do you really think this building would have survived? Plus, the insuing 1,2000* fires weakening the structure, and you think GW was behind it's demo?
IWhihc leads me to a qyuestion I always wanted to ask people... If GW Bush was such a stupid idiot, as portrayed by the liberals and other haters, how could he be soo smart to have pulled off what would be the greatest conspiracy the world has ever seen?? And on top of that, these same liberals said 911 was the link to go to war in Iaq. To evenge his pops previous war, and Saddam's failed attempt at assassinating G HW Bush. So, let's recap shall we Truther?? GWB purportrated the biggest coverup in the history of the world, yet his is a bumbling idiot... If that is true, who REALLY are the idiots?? Hum? 8) :o 8)
Bro - I graduated Manhattan College in 1997.
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Bro - I graduated Manhattan College in 1997.
Welcome fellow Jasper... ! What did you grad. with?
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Welcome fellow Jasper... ! What did you grad. with?
Poli Sci - went to law school after.
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Poli Sci - went to law school after.
Good for you... Man, seems soo long ago. You live on campus? I was a commuter. I lived in Queens.
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Good for you... Man, seems soo long ago. You live on campus? I was a commuter. I lived in Queens.
I lived in Yonkers and commuted. I really enojyed Manhattan College and those were good years.
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I lived in Yonkers and commuted. I really enojyed Manhattan College and those were good years.
Yes sir. How simple life was in college... eat, sleep, study, drink... eat, sleep study, drink... repeat.
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Yes sir. How simple life was in college... eat, sleep, study, drink... eat, sleep study, drink... repeat.
To be honest though, the chicks were very ugly compared to the Iona guidettes.
I really like Manhattan College though, the people were cool, small classes, not many college communists around, nice little campus in NYC, yankee stadium five min away.
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To be honest though, the chicks were very ugly compared to the Iona guidettes.
I really like Manhattan College though, the people were cool, small classes, not many college communists around, nice little campus in NYC, yankee stadium five min away.
Oh, I was in engineering down on Broadway. Unless you spent time in main campus there were no chicks to scope out. We used to take rides over to enemy grounds to Fordam for some women...
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Oh, I was in engineering down on Broadway. Unless you spent time in main campus there were no chicks to scope out. We used to take rides over to enemy grounds to Fordam for some women...
I used to go to the Terminal, Pinewood and Charachters, but it got crazy over there and way too many fights and violence.
We wound up going to Stamford CT alot and dealing with the Greenwich girls, who were hot and good to go for us bronxites.
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THE ADD in this thread is astounding!!! :o
"Truther Jag": ;D
Don't listen to me, listen to EXPERT engineers at Popular Mechanics. They have debunked EVERY THEORY that the conspiracy believers have thrown out there regarding the way the towers fell. It is actually funny because they completely removed all doubt to a point the truthers have gone back to "analyse their data"... Seems they needed to "fit" the facts to their beliefs. The ol' Conspiracy way. Remeber their doubt that the cell phones wouldn't work on those planes?? Guess what? DEBUNKED!
Look, As a Mechanical Engineer myself, graduate of Manhattan College 1993, We studied the design of the WTC on multiple occasions. The design of the towers actually saved lives that day. If it was constructed as your standard slab/column design the towers would have fallen shortly after impact. This was due to the fact the interior support section for the most part did not take the direct hit. Where is a slab/column design would have failed immediately.
WTC7 for your point took direct impact from the falling debris from both Towers. This building was home to many gov't nerve centers, designed that way to thwart the millenium attack that never happened. In that event, there were a number of diesel storage tanks in it's basement and ground floor needed for generators in the event of a wide spread power outtage. Once the shear amount of debris, some million tons of concrete, steel, and other debris fell a 1/4 mile from the sky at over 100 mph, do you really think this building would have survived? Plus, the insuing 1,200* fires weakening the structure, and you think GW was behind it's demo?
Back on topic:
Did I say GW was behind it?
What I asked was why the building was wired for demolition, ...and when was this accomplished?
Surely you don't believe they determined the building had to come down on 911, and proceeded to wire it with explosive ALL on that same fateful day?
Which leads me to a question I always wanted to ask people... If GW Bush was such a stupid idiot, as portrayed by the liberals and other haters, how could he be soo smart to have pulled off what would be the greatest conspiracy the world has ever seen?? And on top of that, these same liberals said 911 was the link to go to war in Iaq. To evenge his pops previous war, and Saddam's failed attempt at assassinating G HW Bush. So, let's recap shall we Truther?? GWB purportrated the biggest coverup in the history of the world, yet his is a bumbling idiot... If that is true, who REALLY are the idiots?? Hum? 8) :o 8)
Again, to bring you back to reality... when did I say that GW Bush was responsible for it?
I do believe GW is a bumbling idiot, either that or he believe the American people are. most likely both.
How ridiculous to believe that some man who lives in a cave had the ability to pull this off singlehandedly.
if you believe the official version of events, ...you truly ARE an idiot!
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Jim Jones also attracted large crowds.
The difference is one educates the masses and the other slaughtered them.
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I have to say - he is 100% correct on this.
The more I read on these criminal banksters the more I want to puke seeing the damage they due.
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I have to say - he is 100% correct on this.
The more I read on these criminal banksters the more I want to puke seeing the damage they due.
It looks like Louie read Creature from Jekyll Island. Everyone needs to go get this book.
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EXCELLENT clips...should make allof the Farrakhan haters who know nothing about him wake the hell up to what the man has been saying for years. You should see his video on why america is at war with Iraq, Sudan and essentially the whole Middle East.
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Actually, those were the best clips I ever heard from him.
Whats funny, it that it seems every is using all the material from "Creature" from Glen Beck, Louie, Ron Paul, etc.
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Actually, those were the best clips I ever heard from him.
Whats funny, it that it seems every is using all the material from "Creature" from Glen Beck, Louie, Ron Paul, etc.
You haven't heard much from him then, because he has been talking about the bankers, wall street, the jewish connection in all of the corruption, corporate crimes, the government and its letter agencies that have been spying on america and the world for years by way of NSA, FBI, CIA, Halliburton, KBR, orchestrated wars, domestic terrorism, etc etc etrc for years. These government entities are NOT new by no means, the NSA has been around since WWII yet many people think it just came into being after 911. Farrakhan has long lectured about the CIA drug trafficking in america for years...about how local police throughout america are the distributors of drugs of in and around america. It wasn't until a white CIA agent: Michael Ruppert, who also worked for the LAPD came forward and admitted it that whites in particular stopped trashing Farrakhan and started listening. He has lectured on domestic terrorism and even brought up the NorthWoods documents showing how america planned to fly radio controlled commercial airlines near Cuba and then have them blown up and blame the Cubans for it as a means of instigating a war with Cuba. Sounds familiar???
You really have to listen to his lectures and get away from the race, religion(ous) hating crowds that don't want to hear what he has to say...EVEN THOUGH ALL THAT HE SAYS IS SPOT ON TRUTH...
BTW Farrakhan was talking about the financial shenanigans and the formation of things like the IRS, UN, World Bank, IMF ect long before Creature From Jekyll Island was written
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Politics Of Oil explained by Farrakhan
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It looks like Louie read Creature from Jekyll Island. Everyone needs to go get this book.
LOL, More like G. Edward Griffin attended a Farrakhan lecture.
That video clip of Farrakhan is from 1995. It is 15 years old.
Farrakhan has been waking up and educating the masses for decades.
His revelations have reached the poor, long before they reached main street USA
Main street USA is only now discovering what Farrakhan has been lecturing on for years.
That's the Farrakhan I saw lecturing in Toronto 15 yrs ago, telling the truth and not mincing his words.
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LOL, More like G. Edward Griffin attended a Farrakhan lecture.
That video clip of Farrakhan is from 1995. It is 15 years old.
Farrakhan has been waking up and educating the masses for decades.
His revelations have reached the poor, long before they reached main street USA
Main street USA is only now discovering what Farrakhan has been lecturing on for years.
That's the Farrakhan I saw lecturing in Toronto 15 yrs ago, telling the truth and not mincing his words.
Jag... let's be real here shall we? What he says then is very similar to what he says now. The person mincing words here is you.
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Jag... let's be real here shall we? What he says then is very similar to what he says now. The person mincing words here is you.
In what way am I mincing words?
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In what way am I mincing words?
That this guy is repentent in his ways and has now "enlightened" the masses as you say. This man is a racist, will always be a racist and you can not change that. Maybe to you he makes sense. Why, I dunno. But you are mincing words by selectively forgetting this man's been an ex-black Panther. This affiliation to white people equates to what the KKK was/is to black people.
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That this guy is repentent in his ways and has now "enlightened" the masses as you say. This man is a racist, will always be a racist and you can not change that. Maybe to you he makes sense. Why, I dunno. But you are mincing words by selectively forgetting this man's been an ex-black Panther. This affiliation to white people equates to what the KKK was/is to black people.
Here we go with the race card being dealt as usual... Whites have selective AMNESIA when it comes to their history and forget so quickly why such groups as the Black Panthers, 5 Percenters, Martin Luther King, Malcom X, Frederick Douglas, Marcus Garvey etc etc etc rose to power and prominence. Maybe white should keep its mouth shut, actions minimal and there won't be a reason for such people to come into being. The same can be said in Africa, India, South East Asia, Central America, Indonesia, The Middle East.... As we watch today is there not a grievous war being waged in the Middle East over whites running their lying mouths??? All of these nations and continents have all had their WHITE PROBLEM...
Now throw away your "deck of race cards" and cut your crap..
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That this guy is repentent in his ways and has now "enlightened" the masses as you say. This man is a racist, will always be a racist and you can not change that. Maybe to you he makes sense. Why, I dunno. But you are mincing words by selectively forgetting this man's been an ex-black Panther. This affiliation to white people equates to what the KKK was/is to black people.
??? What on earth are you talking about?
I never said "he was repentent, and as a result has now begun to enlighten the masses.
I said the Farrakhan I discovered, was one who was always about enlightening and educating the masses.
I also believe that it is for this reason he has been demonized by the powers that be.
Farrakhan to my knowledge was never a member of the Black Panther party.
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??? What on earth are you talking about?
I never said "he was repentent, and as a result has now begun to enlighten the masses.
I said the Farrakhan I discovered, was one who was always about enlightening and educating the masses.
I also believe that it is for this reason he has been demonized by the powers that be.
Farrakhan to my knowledge was never a member of the Black Panther party.
Don't play into his game Jag...He is the typical race baiter throwing lies out and accusing persons of doing , being and belonging to places, people and organizations that they have no part of. Farrakhan is hated by whites because he speaks the TRUTH. Martin Luther King was and still is hated by whites because he spoke the TRUTH, Malcolm X was hated for the TRUTH and all civil rights leaders, those who go against whites policies/government are hated because of the TRUTH. 12sec just accused you of saying something that 1. you did not say and 2. is not true. That is their game...and their are plenty like 12 sec on this board.
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Don't play into his game Jag...He is the typical race baiter throwing lies out and accusing persons of doing , being and belonging to places, people and organizations that they have no part of. Farrakhan is hated by whites because he speaks the TRUTH. Martin Luther King was and still is hated by whites because he spoke the TRUTH, Malcolm X was hated for the TRUTH and all civil rights leaders, those who go against whites policies/government are hated because of the TRUTH. 12sec just accused you of saying something that 1. you did not say and 2. is not true. That is their game...and their are plenty like 12 sec on this board.
::) Now who is talking about race baiting?
The fact of the matter is many people are hated by Blacks & Whites alike because they are manipulated into hating them. To speak of people going against "white/government" policies, is simply more race baiting isn't it? ... because the bottom line is this isn't about Black or White, it's about GREEN & GOLD pure & simple.
I feel sorry for those who support the status quo thinking that they will one day join them. They are the biggest fools of all, and will be the last to learn it ain't gonna happen. When the powers that be turn their sights to them, they will realize what it is to be marginalized and shit upon.
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Here we go with the race card being dealt as usual... Whites have selective AMNESIA when it comes to their history and forget so quickly why such groups as the Black Panthers, 5 Percenters, Martin Luther King, Malcom X, Frederick Douglas, Marcus Garvey etc etc etc rose to power and prominence. Maybe white should keep its mouth shut, actions minimal and there won't be a reason for such people to come into being. The same can be said in Africa, India, South East Asia, Central America, Indonesia, The Middle East.... As we watch today is there not a grievous war being waged in the Middle East over whites running their lying mouths??? All of these nations and continents have all had their WHITE PROBLEM...
Now throw away your "deck of race cards" and cut your crap..
I rest my case... As you can see, Sanford, or samson, or whatever still thinks its WHITIE'S fault. ??? ::)
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??? What on earth are you talking about?
I never said "he was repentent, and as a result has now begun to enlighten the masses.
I said the Farrakhan I discovered, was one who was always about enlightening and educating the masses.
I also believe that it is for this reason he has been demonized by the powers that be.
Farrakhan to my knowledge was never a member of the Black Panther party.
He would have to be repentent if he is what you say he is. Louie was a criminal, called for violence on white people to get what you need, and now he's enlightening the masses? Please man... Your support and excuses for this dirtball is pretty hypocritical in the sense that I would love to see a white man try the same with a KKK member. Or, hell, the cops that shot and killed Sean Bell.
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Don't play into his game Jag...He is the typical race baiter throwing lies out and accusing persons of doing , being and belonging to places, people and organizations that they have no part of. Farrakhan is hated by whites because he speaks the TRUTH. Martin Luther King was and still is hated by whites because he spoke the TRUTH, Malcolm X was hated for the TRUTH and all civil rights leaders, those who go against whites policies/government are hated because of the TRUTH. 12sec just accused you of saying something that 1. you did not say and 2. is not true. That is their game...and their are plenty like 12 sec on this board.
I'm not a race baiter Samson, just someone who calls it like I sees it. Sorry if you got your panties in a bunch because I ripped the facade off of this scumbag you soo much adore.
But who's the race baiter?? Farrakhan speaks the TRUTH?? So whitie wants Obama dead? Is that the truth?? And we as the white community should sit back and stay quiet when you make accusations like that? Um, wasn't Jessie Jackson widely believed to have been part of the assassination of MLK?? Oh, I forgot... that would be whitie's fault. No, Bush's fault... But Bush is white... So it's both they' fault!
To the rest on this board: I don't really need to go any further on this thread dissecting this brainless typical ghetto-minded post to prove what you are saying is the crust that identifies those who follow, believe in and "belong" to groups like the nation of islam.
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He would have to be repentent if he is what you say he is. Louie was a criminal, called for violence on white people to get what you need, and now he's enlightening the masses? Please man... Your support and excuses for this dirtball is pretty hypocritical in the sense that I would love to see a white man try the same with a KKK member. Or, hell, the cops that shot and killed Sean Bell.
Look Louis,
Please show me when and where Louis Farrakhan has called for violence on white people to get what you want.
Please show me evidence of his criminal record? Are you perhaps confusing him with someone else?
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Look Louis,
Please show me when and where Louis Farrakhan has called for violence on white people to get what you want.
Please show me evidence of his criminal record? Are you perhaps confusing him with someone else?
Louis... hahaha... my new puppy's name is Louie... maybe it is a subliminal message?? I dunno!!!!
But, without researching the details, I recall Mr. Louie being involved, or in his defense, accused to be involved with the death of Malcom X... That's without researching for more...
And I quote; "America MUST be burned. It is no good at all!"
I didn't say that... Louie F. did...
Here's a little video from this past weeks "summit" from the enlightened one:
http://www.breitbart.tv/farrakhan-white-right-is-trying-to-set-barack-up-to-be-assassinated/
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12 in todays politicaly correct society, anything blacks say will never be viewed as racist, only what white people say , its part of the double standard that it takes to be politicaly correct, just like the black panthers at voting polls asking people if they are voting black? they are the true racist, why not ask if someone is voting dem? could you imagine if that were arian nation groups or the kkk asking if people were voting white? HOLY SHIT
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Louis... hahaha... my new puppy's name is Louie... maybe it is a subliminal message?? I dunno!!!!
But, without researching the details, I recall Mr. Louie being involved, or in his defense, accused to be involved with the death of Malcom X... That's without researching for more...
And I quote; "America MUST be burned. It is no good at all!"
I didn't say that... Louie F. did...
Here's a little video from this past weeks "summit" from the enlightened one:
http://www.breitbart.tv/farrakhan-white-right-is-trying-to-set-barack-up-to-be-assassinated/
An accusation is not a conviction, it's not even an arrest, or evidence of a crime, or a criminal record.
From where did you get that quote "America MUST be burned. It is no good at all!"
Where in that video do we see proof of a criminal record, or for that matter the call for violence?
You really are a student of government, because you appear to be making it up as you go along.
Very sad really, because if you weren't so committed to creating & maintaining a lie, you might see there is much you have with Louis Farrakhan. He also happens to be a Republican.
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An accusation is not a conviction, it's not even an arrest, or evidence of a crime, or a criminal record.
From where did you get that quote "America MUST be burned. It is no good at all
I never said the video would show proof of a criminal record. I said, in my post, if you read it correctly, that I RECALL he was involved in, or to his defense accused of killing X. If I do recall, (no there is no video I know of so, please, before you jump down my throat...), that X's daughter Shabazz (sp?) was the one accusing him and wanted an FBI investigation... of all the ironic things to ask for.. :P Now, I didn't do much research... but I bet if I did I could find... :o ;D
The quote was off of a NY Times report from last week. You deny?
You really are a student of government, because you appear to be making it up as you go along. Very sad really, because if you weren't so committed to creating & maintaining a lie, you might see there is much you have with Louis Farrakhan. He also happens to be a Republican. There is no lie here man. What have I said that wasn't cooberated in that video?? So you believe I cut and paste that video?? Farrakhan is a republican? wow. That is interesting. But again, you are assuming this means anything to me. I really don't care about his affiliations to wqhat party, just that he spews hatred and that fact you look up to this makes me think differently about yoour mental wellbeing.
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12 in todays politicaly correct society, anything blacks say will never be viewed as racist, only what white people say , its part of the double standard that it takes to be politicaly correct, just like the black panthers at voting polls asking people if they are voting black? they are the true racist, why not ask if someone is voting dem? could you imagine if that were arian nation groups or the kkk asking if people were voting white? HOLY SHIT
I know. I give a lot of credit to the PC world in that they have made it a crime to talk bluntly about racial beliefs, but more so the reprocussions are mainly hurled at white people, or shall I say non-minority groups who speak how they feel outside of their homes. The problem truly lies in that it is white America's fault for putting up with this double standard. I used to listen to rap music way back when and learned that much of it is so anti-white that it turned me off. I could care the less about that crap now. I feel foolish for listening to it, and purchasing this stuff, they call music. Now, I don't lump ALL RAPPERS as racist, or anti-white so stop it before you post it, Jag :o ;D But a good amount of them are. To your point, imagine Metallica singing about blacks in a derogatory way? Sharpton will be protesting outside Atlantic Records in 10 minutes.
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That this guy is repentent in his ways and has now "enlightened" the masses as you say. This man is a racist, will always be a racist and you can not change that. Maybe to you he makes sense. Why, I dunno. But you are mincing words by selectively forgetting this man's been an ex-black Panther. This affiliation to white people equates to what the KKK was/is to black people.
Repentant is a word and behavior UNKNOWN to whites and as such they show none. Farrakhan has no reason to be repentant as he has done nothing ...unless telling the truth is something to repent about...which it isn't.
BTW Aren't there enough white Wall Street crooks and white politicians for you to direct REAL JUSTIFIED HATE at as opposed to desperately trying to conjure up some excuse to hate Farrakhan...and Jesse, and Al and anyone else that has pigment in their skin??? These guys did not rob the country of their pensions, jobs, savings, homes, etc etc etc...
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there are just as many blacks in congress and wall street and the fed nowa days, that tired old bull shit doesnt work any more
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Repentant is a word and behavior UNKNOWN to whites and as such they show none. Farrakhan has no reason to be repentant as he has done nothing ...unless telling the truth is something to repent about...which it isn't.
BTW Aren't there enough white Wall Street crooks and white politicians for you to direct REAL JUSTIFIED HATE at as opposed to desperately trying to conjure up some excuse to hate Farrakhan...and Jesse, and Al and anyone else that has pigment in their skin??? These guys did not rob the country of their pensions, jobs, savings, homes, etc etc etc...
The differences between you and I are many.. But to point out one or two, it's that you see this as a black and white issue; i.e. White crook, white politician.. to me, they are all CROOKS! But to go with your race bait ploy, I will nibble... and throw it back at you. Because I dunno what you are reading lately, however, in my state, in my city, NYC, the political crooks seem to be all black. Patterson, Rangle, City council, plus ACORN, um... shall I define them too? Now. Wall Street has its theives. I do agree there. But they also made a lot of people a lot of money as well. In an honest manner. There's not an honest bone in the body of Sharpton and the lot above. Lastly, anyone who defends these crooks like Sharpton, Jackson, and Farakhan shows me they are the ones who have consumed too much kool aid to see straight. Until you speak to someone from the communities these thugs "serve", or should I say rip off, then you might want to be quiet because you have no clue what you are talking about.
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there are just as many blacks in congress and wall street and the fed nowa days, that tired old bull shit doesnt work any more
But it's their MO, Body. Blame whitie when the poo poo hits the fan, or when they get called out. Look at Obama? What has he done for the 10 millionth time? Blame Bush when he is called to explain his wild spending that shows no ROI. It's whitie fault. That thinking keeps slums a slum, and thugs like these so-called leaders in power.
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i know, none of them ever want to be held accountable, just blame someone else.... the liberal way deny deny deny, then pass blame, then change the subject as fast as possible.
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The differences between you and I are many.. But to point out one or two, it's that you see this as a black and white issue; i.e. White crook, white politician.. to me, they are all CROOKS! But to go with your race bait ploy, I will nibble... and throw it back at you. Because I dunno what you are reading lately, however, in my state, in my city, NYC, the political crooks seem to be all black. Patterson, Rangle, City council, plus ACORN, um... shall I define them too? Now. Wall Street has its theives. I do agree there. But they also made a lot of people a lot of money as well. In an honest manner. There's not an honest bone in the body of Sharpton and the lot above. Lastly, anyone who defends these crooks like Sharpton, Jackson, and Farakhan shows me they are the ones who have consumed too much kool aid to see straight. Until you speak to someone from the communities these thugs "serve", or should I say rip off, then you might want to be quiet because you have no clue what you are talking about.
You've made some very good and excellent points in that post, ...however, where you veer off track imo is when you classify Farrakhan as a criminal. Please tell me what crimes have Farrakhan committed, ...not what he has been accused of, but what he actually committed? Please show me what Farrakhan has in common with poverty pimps like Sharpton or Jackson?
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Who here is a fan of this individual?
Other racists like him! :-\