Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure

Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Method101 on March 08, 2010, 04:02:48 PM

Title: We are all fucked
Post by: Method101 on March 08, 2010, 04:02:48 PM
http://www.globalfirepower.com/available-military-manpower.asp




Epic goose stepping lol.
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: dr.chimps on March 08, 2010, 04:04:56 PM
Epic goose stepping lol.
You know who else goose-stepped? Didn't end so well.
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: G_Thang on March 08, 2010, 04:05:26 PM
how old is that? like the chinese dont have problems with chain smoking, hiv and over-population at the moment.  i'm surprise they havent used a warhead on themselves.  
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: Valane on March 08, 2010, 04:06:18 PM
Their frail human bodies can withstand nukes?

Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 08, 2010, 04:07:55 PM
Robert Oppenheimer could probably help with this.
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: Method101 on March 08, 2010, 04:09:12 PM
Their frail human bodies can withstand nukes?


They got their own nukes, and alot more than the USA/Britain lol.
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: polychronopolous on March 08, 2010, 04:11:17 PM
China = nothing more than a paper tiger being sensationalized by the right wing media.
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: Cavalier22 on March 08, 2010, 04:15:30 PM
China is still behind the USA in missile and nuke technology.  But they basically stole most of our secrets in the 90s, and have caught up quickly (more quickly than they have been catching up in other areas). But as to how long we remain ahead, who knows.
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: delta9mda on March 08, 2010, 04:22:59 PM
headshots help
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: Valane on March 08, 2010, 04:24:17 PM
They got their own nukes, and alot more than the USA/Britain lol.


No they don't.
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: MAXX on March 08, 2010, 04:29:45 PM
http://www.globalfirepower.com/available-military-manpower.asp




Epic goose stepping lol.
what's the point of these military showings? look at us we are big and mean ::) seems like 1940 all over again.
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: Method101 on March 08, 2010, 04:30:42 PM
look at us we are big and mean ::) .
thats not groink  :D
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: G_Thang on March 08, 2010, 04:34:11 PM
just make sure when the warheads go off that my rice is still moist...dont like it dehydrated and ashy. 
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on March 08, 2010, 05:29:36 PM
China will suffer a huge economic downfall and yet again USA will be on top of the world. If we don't have nuclear fallout before then ;D
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: jpm101 on March 08, 2010, 05:32:35 PM
Present day China reminds me of the old Soviet Union when they were at their peak. Similar with the massive armed forces, military hardware and ICBM supply. As with China today, Russia did not have the internal structure to be any where near a world power, military or other wise. Mostly rural, with great distances to cover. To get the food supply and other raw materials for a proper war machine a county needs quality roads and a well running and designed railroad system. China has neither. China also has to import crude oil, a very important factor for them.

Peoples on the farms and rural (where most of the population lives) area have the other disadvantage of being under educated, with many not being able to read or write, a flaw that was hidden by Russia, and now China, very well. With their massive land mass, with extremes in weather, take a toll on food production. There are almost yearly food riots in many villages. People come to the bigger cities for jobs and a better supply of the basic foods. Air quality there barely passable.

Only advantage China has now is the blockage of the power grid and communication centers (military/gov/civil) of the USA, for example. And not a shot needs to be fired. Clinton's adminstration had done more harm to the U.S.by selling  secret and hi tech  guidance systems for space/rocket defense. Plus our offense weapon systems are now well known to China.. China is making outstanding advancement in hacking and controlling potential U.S defense with super computer offense attacks. This would also mean control of public water & power supply's, communication, internet, food stocks, highway & rail systems and all types of critical delivery's. New type of war altogether.
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: Parker on March 08, 2010, 05:46:27 PM
They got their own nukes, and alot more than the USA/Britain lol.
There is a difference between Marching and being battle tested. China's History with international warfare is that they get fucked in the ass.
Also if they go to war, they will need at least half their army to keep control of the populace.
As G had stated they also have a HIV problem, they severly downplay. A few yrs ago the estimate was 10 million, which could be 20-100 million if not more.
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on March 08, 2010, 05:49:35 PM
There is a difference between Marching and being battle tested. China's History with international warfare is that they get fucked in the ass.
Also if they go to war, they will need at least half their army to keep control of the populace.
As G had stated they also have a HIV problem, they severly downplay. A few yrs ago the estimate was 10 million, which could be 20-100 million if not more.

Damn, I gotta nix my travels to China....I was really lookin forward to those chinese whores too :(
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: jwb on March 08, 2010, 05:51:27 PM
do you guys realize how much the united states government needs chinese savings to survive right now?
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: dr.chimps on March 08, 2010, 05:53:56 PM
Present day China reminds me of the old Soviet Union when they were at their peak. Similar with the massive armed forces, military hardware and ICBM supply. As with China today, Russia did not have the internal structure to be any where near a world power, military or other wise. Mostly rural, with great distances to cover. To get the food supply and other raw materials for a proper war machine a county needs quality roads and a well running and designed railroad system. China has neither. China also has to import crude oil, a very important factor for them.

Peoples on the farms and rural (where most of the population lives) area have the other disadvantage of being under educated, with many not being able to read or write, a flaw that was hidden by Russia, and now China, very well. With their massive land mass, with extremes in weather, take a toll on food production. There are almost yearly food riots in many villages. People come to the bigger cities for jobs and a better supply of the basic foods. Air quality there barely passable.

Only advantage China has now is the blockage of the power grid and communication centers (military/gov/civil) of the USA, for example. And not a shot needs to be fired. Clinton's adminstration had done more harm to the U.S.by selling  secret and hi tech  guidance systems for space/rocket defense. Plus our offense weapon systems are now well known to China.. China is making outstanding advancement in hacking and controlling potential U.S defense with super computer offense attacks. This would also mean control of public water & power supply's, communication, internet, food stocks, highway & rail systems and all types of critical delivery's. New type of war altogether.
Rating: C+/B-. 

No real social analysis. Ditto economic focus, esp. vis-a-vis trade balance, pegging the yuan, etc.

/try this: http://www.economist.com/

   
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on March 08, 2010, 05:56:36 PM
do you guys realize how much the united states government needs chinese savings to survive right now?

Exactly....Bleedin them dry from our debt...Ain't it grand??
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: Parker on March 08, 2010, 05:59:25 PM
do you guys realize how much the united states government needs chinese savings to survive right now?
D how muc they need us to buy their cheap shit? I think Mexicans can make most of the stuff better than they can. I got a weight set right here,made in China, that fuck, I should have the York one.

Offer cheap jobs in Mexico, Bam! Our immigration problem solved, everyone would want to move there.
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: jwb on March 08, 2010, 06:00:32 PM
Exactly....Bleedin them dry from our debt...Ain't it grand??
looks like they are starting to pull out... cheaper for them to stimulate their domestic demand for goods it seems.

China sold $34bn (£21.5bn) worth of US government bonds in December, raising fears that Beijing is using its financial muscle to signal that it has lost confidence in American economic policy.

US treasury figures for the period ending in December 2009 show that, following the sale, China is no longer the largest overseas holder of US treasury bonds. Beijing ended the year sitting on $755.4bn worth of US government debt, compared to Japan's $768.8bn.
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on March 08, 2010, 06:04:04 PM
looks like they are starting to pull out... cheaper for them to stimulate their domestic demand for goods it seems.

China sold $34bn (£21.5bn) worth of US government bonds in December, raising fears that Beijing is using its financial muscle to signal that it has lost confidence in American economic policy.

US treasury figures for the period ending in December 2009 show that, following the sale, China is no longer the largest overseas holder of US treasury bonds. Beijing ended the year sitting on $755.4bn worth of US government debt, compared to Japan's $768.8bn.


Like I said....U.S. bleeding the shareholders dry. Doesn't matter which country holds the debt, the same will happen and blow up in their face.
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: jwb on March 08, 2010, 06:10:06 PM
Like I said....U.S. bleeding the shareholders dry. Doesn't matter which country holds the debt, the same will happen and blow up in their face.
the composition may change but you need new debt holders which may not exist in the near future...
America must sell an unprecedented volume of treasuries in the coming years to finance its record deficit, and pay the cost of bailing out Wall Street and kick-starting the economy with a $900bn stimulus package.
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: Spoony Luv on March 08, 2010, 06:12:28 PM
Its all just a distraction for what they really have going on a mile into the earth...
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on March 08, 2010, 06:16:43 PM
the composition may change but you need new debt holders which may not exist in the near future...
America must sell an unprecedented volume of treasuries in the coming years to finance its record deficit, and pay the cost of bailing out Wall Street and kick-starting the economy with a $900bn stimulus package.

We are just playin possum till the middle east uses oil reserves and the world is dependent on the U.S.. It is all a huge chess game the U.S. is playing with the world...Watch....
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: jwb on March 08, 2010, 06:32:57 PM
We are just playin possum till the middle east uses oil reserves and the world is dependent on the U.S.. It is all a huge chess game the U.S. is playing with the world...Watch....
dependent on the united states for what?
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: Natural Man on March 08, 2010, 06:51:00 PM
the only problem is that conventionnal wars dont exist anymore, and that parading well doesnt mean they are trained well or fight well.  The level of experience of the us , uk and most elite european armies is still light years ahead of any army in the world. 1 american soldier must be worth 5 of theirs.

The showing is great and all seriously but, it's just archaic.


There wont be any world wars like the ones we have known in the past. So these kind of gathering are meaningless, today it only means tons of guys dead at once if the enemy spot em and drop a bomb on the pack. Nowadays it's all about paramilitary polices working in urban environments with psychologists and translaters , and small teams of highly trained special forces speaking several different languages carrying backpacks full of degrees in everything you can think of, working with the support of bots, drones, satellites and spy cameras. Basically brains and technology. Grunts are acting as "peacekeepers" most of the time.









just a reminder...

(http://www.fuckfrance.com/images/i413/199963.113jamessuh_orig.jpg)
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: jtsunami on March 08, 2010, 06:53:31 PM
China would fuck the US up
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on March 08, 2010, 06:58:30 PM
China would fuck the US up

Would love to see it. The war-machine brings jobs and money to our country....
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: dr.chimps on March 08, 2010, 06:59:46 PM
the only problem is that conventionnal wars dont exist anymore, and that parading well doesnt mean they are trained well or fight well.  The experience of the us army is still light years ahead of any army in the world.

The showing is great and all but, it's just archaic.


There wont be any world wars like the ones we have known in the past. Nowadays it's all about paramilitary polices and small team of highly trained special forces working with the support of bots, drones, satellites and spy cameras.
Drone assassination is one area where Obama has done well. Apparently, the kill % is like 95 and the death numbers are up like %400 over Bush's.  Sorry, Coach.
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: noworries on March 09, 2010, 02:15:10 AM
yea but can any of those little fuckers dunk a basketball
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: Kwon on March 09, 2010, 02:52:00 AM
Its all just a distraction for what they really have going on a mile into the earth...

Are you saying they have underground bases?
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: Kwon on March 09, 2010, 02:53:36 AM
Would love to see it.

Don't think anyone (of the concerned parties) would want to see a war between US and China.

Would be consequences for the whole world.
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: Method101 on March 09, 2010, 03:11:07 AM
Is it possible to survive a nuclear fallout if you have a cellar full of canned beans and a gas mask? lol
 :D
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: Griffith on March 09, 2010, 03:11:55 AM
We're supposed to be scared of these people?
They're all 5 ft tall and like the vast majority of Asians their men hardly have any testoserone and are skinny and weak looking.

Anyway these people are incapable of inventing anything, they just take Western inventions and try to develop them. Lemming like people with zero iniative.
Like the Japanese, very arrogant people but forget that when the West arrived, they were hundreds of years behind. They had to copy the West to advance.

Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: KevinP85 on March 09, 2010, 03:24:55 AM
We're supposed to be scared of these people?
They're all 5 ft tall and like the vast majority of Asians their men hardly have any testoserone and are skinny and weak looking.

Anyway these people are incapable of inventing anything, they just take Western inventions and try to develop them. Lemming like people with zero iniative.
Like the Japanese, very arrogant people but forget that when the West arrived, they were hundreds of years behind. They had to copy the West to advance.



You sir are a fucking idiot, I hope you are not white cause that would be a disgrace! Pick up a book sometime!
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: jwb on March 09, 2010, 03:43:14 AM
You sir are a fucking idiot, I hope you are not white cause that would be a disgrace! Pick up a book sometime!
he's too busy watching fox
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: Kwon on March 09, 2010, 03:54:12 AM
We're supposed to be scared of these people?
They're all 5 ft tall and like the vast majority of Asians their men hardly have any testoserone and are skinny and weak looking.

That's not true anymore Griff.

Taller ones are more common these days, the short ones are mostly from the Southern parts of China, while there are plenty tall ones from the North.

Last time i visited Beijing though, i saw ALOT of military that were 2 metres!

I was astonished to see so many tall ones in their military, my first thought was, what are they eating these days? :)

Maybe they had recruited lot of people from the North.

Even the females in that Military i saw in the airport were tall. Not what i expected at all.
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: jpm101 on March 09, 2010, 07:52:16 AM
A message to Dr Chimps:  K.I.S.S.= Keep It Simple Stupid.

If you wanted a White Paper on the geopolitical impact, both internal/external, on global influences, past-present-future,than I'm sorry to disappoint you. Got to keep it real, only BB'ing site after all.

Also not to be critical of Griffith but he/she sounds like a product of the San Diego or LA school system.
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: Rami on March 09, 2010, 08:52:10 AM
They are all clones!
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: Rami on March 09, 2010, 08:54:28 AM
That's not true anymore Griff.

Taller ones are more common these days, the short ones are mostly from the Southern parts of China, while there are plenty tall ones from the North.

Last time i visited Beijing though, i saw ALOT of military that were 2 metres!

I was astonished to see so many tall ones in their military, my first thought was, what are they eating these days? :)

Maybe they had recruited lot of people from the North.

Even the females in that Military i saw in the airport were tall. Not what i expected at all.

It is true. The biggest reason Asians used to be shorter was malnutrition. They will all be around 6' in no time.
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on March 09, 2010, 09:35:09 AM

just a reminder...

(http://www.fuckfrance.com/images/i413/199963.113jamessuh_orig.jpg)

Reminder that your soldiers look like bums?
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: rockyfortune on March 09, 2010, 10:45:28 AM
They got their own nukes, and alot more than the USA/Britain lol.

why? how many do you need to spread radioactive dust throughout the far east?
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on March 09, 2010, 10:54:59 AM
We're supposed to be scared of these people?
They're all 5 ft tall and like the vast majority of Asians their men hardly have any testoserone and are skinny and weak looking.

Anyway these people are incapable of inventing anything, they just take Western inventions and try to develop them. Lemming like people with zero iniative.
Like the Japanese, very arrogant people but forget that when the West arrived, they were hundreds of years behind. They had to copy the West to advance.


bahahaha epicly stupid, china is the longest standing nation-state in the history of the world, China has existed for like 4 thousand years, they invented and forgot more than the west could dream of, it was the west that only *just now* caught up with them, like in the last hundred years or so whilst they were miles ahead for a period of thousands of years LOL.
'can invent anything', haha they only invented, off the top of my head, such useless things as paper, gunpowder, navigation methods/maps which were later used by the west to 'discover' places which had already been discovered...lmao
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on March 09, 2010, 10:57:55 AM
Would love to see it. The war-machine brings jobs and money to our country....

war with china would not bring those things. it would only bring death and destruction. china has the available military manpower to literally occupy every Nato country plus plently left over, they can put somewhere over 250 million men in the field.
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on March 09, 2010, 11:01:16 AM
bahahaha epicly stupid, china is the longest standing nation-state in the history of the world, China has existed for like 4 thousand years, they invented and forgot more than the west could dream of, it was the west that only *just now* caught up with them, like in the last hundred years or so whilst they were miles ahead for a period of thousands of years LOL.
'can invent anything', haha they only invented, off the top of my head, such useless things as paper, gunpowder, navigation methods/maps which were later used by the west to 'discover' places which had already been discovered...lmao

Now you are just being an insecure europhag.  ;D
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: Fury on March 09, 2010, 11:01:35 AM
Hahahahahaha. Now the Chinese are capable of amassing and controlling a 250 million person army spread across the world. What wonderfully over exaggerated claim is one of the Getbig war historians going to make next?

::)
 
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on March 09, 2010, 11:09:16 AM
thats their potential, yes.

nobody thought the soviet union would be capable of what they did either. started the war being woefully underprepared and underestimated, 4-5 years later they are putting out world class military weapons/machines and had one of if not the largest, most powerful army in the world.  never underestimate a country that is vast in size, with resources, and virtually infinite manpower.
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: Fury on March 09, 2010, 11:10:32 AM
How's the Soviet Union doing now?
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on March 09, 2010, 11:30:13 AM
Last time world took US seriously was the time when it had nukes and the rest of the world didn't. Now when the field is even, even small countries like North Korea can bully US.
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: Bobby on March 09, 2010, 12:20:40 PM
A strange game.
The only winning move is
not to play.

How about a nice game of chess?

:D
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: Spoony Luv on March 09, 2010, 12:30:14 PM
China would fuck the US up

They don't have earthquake machines...Russia and the U.S. are the only ones with that technology...
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: Rami on March 09, 2010, 12:34:53 PM
China will take care of USA like they have for the last 10 years.

As long as we consume their products they will keep lending all the money we need.


 And when they go to the Moon and Mars I'm sure they will share their discoveries with the rest of the world. ::)
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: Spoony Luv on March 09, 2010, 12:45:06 PM
Are you saying they have underground bases?

Not necessarily just bases...Full cities that hold over a 1 million people...However our particle beam weapons can liquefy their brains...
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: Natural Man on March 11, 2010, 04:37:05 PM
war with china would not bring those things. it would only bring death and destruction. china has the available military manpower to literally occupy every Nato country plus plently left over, they can put somewhere over 250 million men in the field.
fucking retard, they have almost 0 capabilities to project their forces. God you morons should really READ as someone mentionned it earlier.

I guess you "educate" yourself watching the news 5 minutes a week and that's it. And that you work as a car washer.
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: ShipSekki on March 11, 2010, 04:58:43 PM
fucking retard, they have almost 0 capabilities to project their forces. God you morons should really READ as someone mentionned it earlier.

I guess you "educate" yourself watching the news 5 minutes a week and that's it. And that you work as a car washer.

 What makes you think they have zero capability to project their forces? What are you basing this on?

 In a war of attrition China could do some serious damage. Technology means a lot these days, but having sheer enormous manpower like they do can still mean a lot.
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on March 11, 2010, 07:39:08 PM
fucking retard, they have almost 0 capabilities to project their forces. God you morons should really READ as someone mentionned it earlier.

I guess you "educate" yourself watching the news 5 minutes a week and that's it. And that you work as a car washer.

whatever you say Simple Jack :D
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: Natural Man on March 17, 2010, 05:13:54 PM
 :)
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: ShipSekki on March 17, 2010, 05:19:33 PM
China will take care of USA like they have for the last 10 years.

As long as we consume their products they will keep lending all the money we need.


 And when they go to the Moon and Mars I'm sure they will share their discoveries with the rest of the world. ::)

 No, it's going to come to an end soon.

 We are heading towards world war 3. It's not going to keep going like it has been. The dollar will devalue very soon. The bank's phony assets they are claiming now will be exposed. Things are going to get really bad here.

 Most people want to keep on thinking  "Everything will be ok", well, not this time.
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on March 17, 2010, 05:25:20 PM
No, it's going to come to an end soon.

 We are heading towards world war 3. It's not going to keep going like it has been. The dollar will devalue very soon. The bank's phony assets they are claiming now will be exposed. Things are going to get really bad here.

 Most people want to keep on thinking  "Everything will be ok", well, not this time.

Bring it on. I've been waiting. It's happening 2012 right?
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: ShipSekki on March 17, 2010, 05:27:54 PM
Bring it on. I've been waiting. It's happening 2012 right?

 Probably more like 2016-2020. But the shit is definitely gonna hit the fan.

 Throughout history there have been huge world wars and huge global turmoils. Right now the situation is perfect for another one to happen again. The USA looks like the Roman Empire before it's crash, and the global situation resembles pre World War 2 in many ways.
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on March 17, 2010, 05:29:04 PM
Probably more like 2016-2020. But the shit is definitely gonna hit the fan.

 Throughout history there have been huge world wars and huge global turmoils. Right now the situation is perfect for another one to happen again. The USA looks like the Roman Empire before it's crash, and the global situation resembles pre World War 2 in many ways.

You know what we need? A smaller war to prevent the bigger war!
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: ShipSekki on March 17, 2010, 05:31:24 PM
You know what we need? A smaller war to prevent the bigger war!

 Like Iraq or Afghanistan?

 I don't think any war will stop it. It's mostly economic corruption and corporate greed that's fueling the situation. We need a political and economic revolution.
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on March 17, 2010, 05:32:14 PM
No, it's going to come to an end soon.

 We are heading towards world war 3. It's not going to keep going like it has been. The dollar will devalue very soon. The bank's phony assets they are claiming now will be exposed. Things are going to get really bad here.

 Most people want to keep on thinking  "Everything will be ok", well, not this time.

i agree, we in american have become fat and complacent


we have this bizarre sense of entitlement, and have perverted the american dream to mean we shoudl all  be playing with our iphones while we stuff ourselves in front of our flat panel televisions


we have been misled to believe that each generation is destined to a better quality of life then their parents......while that was true for some time, that wave has crested


politicians, greedy corporate raiders, and sickinig lawyers have blead the country dry.....and waged war against all the qualities that used to make america exceptional

we are no longer the most powerful nation in the world


people just do not realize how bad things could get here, with the collapsing dollar, the govt. borrowing money at an unsustainable rate to keep feeding the monster


some hungry up-and-coming nations biting at our heels  (anytime in history a nation has had such a surplus of males, like, china does, they are almost always fueling a war machine)


like the roman empire.......teh rise and fall of the united stated stated will be the greatest cautionary tale in the history of the world


Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: ShipSekki on March 17, 2010, 05:39:25 PM
i agree, we in american have become fat and complacent


we have this bizarre sense of entitlement, and have perverted the american dream to mean we shoudl all  be playing with our iphones while we stuff ourselves in front of our flat panel televisions


we have been misled to believe that each generation is destined to a better quality of life then their parents......while that was true for some time, that wave has crested


politicians, greedy corporate raiders, and sickinig lawyers have blead the country dry.....and waged war against all the qualities that used to make america exceptional

we are no longer the most powerful nation in the world


people just do not realize how bad things could get here, with the collapsing dollar, the govt. borrowing money at an unsustainable rate to keep feeding the monster


some hungry up-and-coming nations biting at our heels  (anytime in history a nation has had such a surplus of males, like, china does, they are almost always fueling a war machine)


like the roman empire.......teh rise and fall of the united stated stated will be the greatest cautionary tale in the history of the world




 All true.

 And if you study the economic crisis of 08 and the bank bailouts, it shows an economic system that is like a house of cards on a global level. We are going to see an absoutely enormous economic depression soon enough. The current recession is like a tremor before the big quake.

 The USA is one fucked up place these days. The poliics, the economic situation, the culture.....

 But the USA is not the only place headed towards disatster. The ripples wil spread across the globe.

 In the recession of 08. The whole entire world fell into a recession pretty much. And when the big crash comes the whole world wil fal then too.
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on March 17, 2010, 05:45:18 PM
i agree with that.......everyone treated 2008 like that was the crises, and are like "glad thats over"...............like you said...............that was just a tremor 
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: Natural Man on March 17, 2010, 06:27:57 PM
Probably more like 2016-2020. But the shit is definitely gonna hit the fan.

 Throughout history there have been huge world wars and huge global turmoils. Right now the situation is perfect for another one to happen again. The USA looks like the Roman Empire before it's crash, and the global situation resembles pre World War 2 in many ways.



chinese like most people on earth nowadays are more interested into getting an internet access to watch porn, learn stuff using wikipedia to get a better job, so they can drive a 4x4 and finally sit home behind a giant flat screen watching naked women or sports while drinking a beer.

There wont be any more world wars. Not in the world we re living in.

Capitalism and socialism are mutating into a a unique, new kind of ideology that is spred by the mass medias.

Look at irak, you dont hear much about it anymore, cause all the crazy assholes are dead, and the peaceful , smarter people are returning to work while seeing their quality of life increase since the americans settled there.

Nobody wants to die for a bullshit ideology in our modern world, people want to money and tranquility. Youths have access to the internet as soon as they re 7 or 8 y o... they re getting smarter sooner than ever in the history of mankind -even if most em are getting stupider- and none of em want to "fight" or "die" for some cause that makes no sense at all to them.

This is what america wanted, this is what europe, russia, japan wanted, that is what more and more people in the middle east and in china want, with the internet spreading constantly everywhere even there.

You haveyoung  people folowing dancing with the stars on a laptop in fucking pakistan. This is the new world we live in. They dont buy into their fathers or grandfathers bullshits about "holy war against the infidels"... As old people die and are replaced by young people who have an easier than ever access to everything they could dream of, "wars" dont mean anything anymore.

You guys live in the past, seriously. Lot of things changed, very fast, in the last decades.


Now the real question is, what will people do when they ll all have everything they want?
Is this the true meaning of life?

Nobody knows where we re heading with this concept of a world where there are no countries anymore, where everyone has the same home, tv, car,etc, has an equal and growing access to the same free knowledges, and where anyone can travel wherever he wants one day and then go somewhere else the following day.

My thought is that more equal access to everythign will only improve, increase competition. Nowadays anyone can study, learn and get smart, nobody s going to prevent you from doing so. The only problem is that as people get better, smarter, then competition will rise.

The search for equality only leads to more competition. Ironic isnt it.

Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: ShipSekki on March 17, 2010, 06:35:11 PM
you are dumb .

chinese like most people on earth nowadays are more interested into getting an internet access to watch porn, learn stuff using wikipedia to get a better job, so they can drive a 4x4 and finally sit home behind a giant flat screen watching naked women or sports while drinking a beer.

There wont be any more world wars. Not in the world we re living in.

Capitalism and socialism are mutating into a new kind of ideology that is spread by mass medias.

Look at irak, you dont hear much about it now, cause all the crazy assholes are dead, and the peaceful , smarter people are returning to work while seeing their quality of life increase since the americans settled there.

Nobody wants to die for a bullshit ideology in our modern world, people want to money and tranquility. Youths have access to the internet as soon as they re 7 or 8 y o... they re getting smarter sooner than ever in the history of mankind -even if most em are getting stupider- and none of em want to "fight" or "die" for some cause that makes no sense at all to them.



 What the people want, and what governments want are two different things. And right now in this world, Government has the people by the balls across the world.

 Right now it's impossible to imagine a world war because thinks are going pretty smooth. But when extreme economics depressions hit and people can long longer strive for cars, internet porn and other shit their attitude will will change big time. If you have no chance of living a materialistic dream life, you will tend towards extremism.

 As for Iraq, we don't here about it because the media has stopped spening time and resources covering it. That place is all fucked up though.

 You can't assume that the ways things are going right now will continue, things can pull a complete 180 like they have countles times in the past.
Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: Natural Man on March 17, 2010, 06:42:28 PM
 
Quote
As for Iraq, we don't here about it because the media has stopped spening time and resources covering it. That place is all fucked up though.


they stoped covering it cause it's getting better and it is not interesting to show for em.

But basically bush, his advisors and the army achieved their goals;  the US are now settled in the middle east and forcing these savages to civilize themselves pouring in modernity and cash to seduce the camel fuckers who will fall for it as every human being did in the past.
That was the main goal of the whole thing and it worked just as planned.

Exactly as it worked with europe, russia, japan...

China afghanistan and iran are next, they will join the "free world", just a matter of time. Maybe wars wont even be necessary and they will implode all by themselves.
The chinese people will boot their leaders and communism out. There will be some kind of revolution, but no wars. They dont give a fuck about wars and are not going to fight people they envy for leaders they despise.

Title: Re: We are all fucked
Post by: ShipSekki on March 17, 2010, 06:49:00 PM


they stoped covering it cause it's getting better and it is not interesting to show for em.

But basically bush, his advisors and the army achieved their goals;  the US are now settled in the middle east and forcing these savages to civilize themselves pouring in modernity and cash to seduce the camel fuckers who will fall for it as every human being did in the past.
That was the main goal of the whole thing and it worked just as planned.

Exactly as it worked with europe, russia, japan...

China afghanistan and iran are next, they will join the "free world", just a matter of time.
The chinese people will boot their leaders and communism out. There will be some kind of revolution, but no wars. They dont give a fuck about wars and are not going to fight for leaders they despise.



 You don't strike me as being very well traveled. Have you been to China? It's hardly a Communist country. It's Communist in name only but it's basically just a purely capitalist place. There is hardly anything Communist about China these days.

 As for your theories about what the US is doing in the Middle East. Well, you are totally ignorant. I don't even know where to begin on that because it's so off the mark. We are not bringing them modernity and cash, they are poorer now than they were 10 years ago.

 You don't seem to have much understanding of how journalism and the media operates either. You are lost son.