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Force them to hold the prom? ::)
Lesbian teen sues to force school to hold prom
Posted 3/12/2010
By Shelia Byrd, Associated Press Writer
JACKSON, Miss. A lesbian student who wanted to take her girlfriend to her senior prom is asking a federal judge to force her Mississippi school district to reinstate the dance it canceled.
The American Civil Liberties Union of Mississippi on Thursday filed a lawsuit in U.S. District Court in Oxford on behalf of 18-year-old Constance McMillen, who said she faced some unhappy classmates after the Itawamba County School District said it wouldn't host the April 2 prom.
"Somebody said, 'Thanks for ruining my senior year,'" McMillen said of her reluctant return Thursday to Itawamba Agricultural High School in Fulton.
The lawsuit seeks a court order for the school to hold the prom. It also asks that McMillen be allowed to escort her girlfriend, who is a fellow student, and wear a tuxedo, which the school said also violated policy.
The district's decision Wednesday came after the ACLU demanded that officials change a policy banning same-sex prom dates because it said it violated students' rights. The ACLU said the district violated McMillen's free expression rights by not letting her wear a tux.
McMillen said she never expected the district to respond the way it did.
"A lot of people said that was going to happen, but I said, they had already spent too much money on the prom" to cancel it, she said.
McMillen said she didn't want to go back to the high school in Fulton the morning after the decision, but her father told her she needed to face her classmates.
"My daddy told me that I needed to show them that I'm still proud of who I am," McMillen told The Associated Press in a telephone interview. "The fact that this will help people later on, that's what's helping me to go on."
The school board statement said it wouldn't host the event "due to the distractions to the educational process caused by recent events" but didn't mention McMillen. District officials didn't return calls seeking comment Thursday.
At least one supporter has offered to help McMillen and her classmates hold an alternate prom.
New Orleans hotel owner Sean Cummings told The Clarion-Ledger of Jackson he was so disappointed with the school board's decision he offered to transport the students in buses to the city and host a free prom at one of his properties.
"New Orleans, we're a joyful culture and a creative culture here and, if the school doesn't change its mind, we'd be delighted to offer them a prom in New Orleans," he told the newspaper. "Concluding your high school experience should be a joyful one. One shouldn't conclude that experience with all their friends on a negative note."
Same-sex prom dates and cross-dressing are new issues for many high schools around the country, said Daryl Presgraves, a spokesman for GLSEN: Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network, a Washington-based advocacy group.
"A lot of schools actually react rather than do the research and find out what the rights of these students are," said Presgraves.
McMillen says she hopes her fight will make it easier for gay students at other schools facing discrimination.
"I want other kids to know that's it not right for schools to do that," she said on CBS's "The Early Show."
In 2002, a gay student sued his school district in Toronto to allow him to attend a prom with his boyfriend. A judge later forced the district to allow the couple to attend and stopped the district from canceling the prom.
U.S. Rep. Jared Polis, D-Colo., said a bill he's introduced in Congress would make it illegal to discriminate against gay and lesbian school students. He said at least 10 states have such laws, and his bill is modeled after those.
"This situation with the prom is a perfect example of why we need to protect students from discrimination. In this case it's a prom. It other cases, it's getting beaten up or killed," Polis said.
The school district had said it hoped a privately sponsored prom could be held.
Southside Baptist Church Pastor Bobby Crenshaw said he's seen the South portrayed as "backwards" on Web sites discussing the issue, "but a lot more people here have biblically based values."
Itawamba County is a rural area of about 23,000 people in north Mississippi near the Alabama state line. It's near Pontotoc County, Miss., where more than a decade ago school officials were sued in federal court over their practice of student-led intercom prayer and Bible classes.
http://content.usatoday.net/dist/custom/gci/InsidePage.aspx?cId=honoluluadvertiser&sParam=33007061.story
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you go, girl! be strong, be proud. nothing wrong with a nice tuxedo.
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I don't get it. She couldn't enjoy the prom without dressing in a way to get extra attention or was barred for being a lesbian?
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Why is this an issue?Who cares?Guys at the prom are looking to get some head,they dont give a flying fuck about two dykes dancing.
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I don't get it. She couldn't enjoy the prom without dressing in a way to get extra attention or was barred for being a lesbian?
Neither. According to the school:
The school board statement said it wouldn't host the event "due to the distractions to the educational process caused by recent events" but didn't mention McMillen. District officials didn't return calls seeking comment Thursday.
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well lil boys are dressing like lil girls nowa days, with tight ass pants that look like thay are painted on, and they are those midrift cut type too and there skins tight low cut v necks with their lil house slippers and long shaggy hair, so whats the prob, kids nowa days are just plain fucked up
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they had already spent too much money on the prom" to cancel it, she said.
This might be where the legal tiff lies. A lot of schools require their students to pay for their own prom in some way. Car washes, fund raising, student activities fees, etc... if this were the case and they simply canceled it, they need to pay the students back an equal percentage of the funds they raised.
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Can't the bitch just act right for one night? Does everything have to be a big scene for the gay crowd?
If she really wanted to go she could have just went and kept her mouth shut. This is obviously nothing more than a ploy for attention.
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If this is a public school then I don't see how they can legally discriminate against her and not allow her to attend a school event simply because she is gay
I doubt there is any legal requirement to hold a prom so that might be a dead end
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This might be where the legal tiff lies. A lot of schools require their students to pay for their own prom in some way. Car washes, fund raising, student activities fees, etc... if this were the case and they simply canceled it, they need to pay the students back an equal percentage of the funds they raised.
So give the girl back the couple hundred bucks she spent on her dress, etc. and call it a day.
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So give the girl back the couple hundred bucks she spent on her dress, etc. and call it a day.
or just have the damn prom.
I'm sure this type of thing happens at school dances/proms etc.. all over the country and no one gives a shit and it doesn't make the news
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or just have the damn prom.
Like am i missing something. Like In may they have prom...have the prom..Why would they not have pron
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So give the girl back the couple hundred bucks she spent on her dress, etc. and call it a day.
Not necessarily. Then you shorten the other students.
If 100 (just assuming #s here) are going to the prom and together they raised $4000 (again assuming #s here) during the school year to cover the costs, then if the prom is canceled the school needs to cut a check for $40 for all 100 kids.
I don't know how their prom is structured, but at my school the junior class always paid for the seniors prom. So if we (junior class) had worked our asses off all year to put on this show, and it was canceled, I would expect the money to be returned to us.
Personally, I would say let her go with whatever date she wanted to. It's a fucking overpriced dance that doesn't have any meaning or value later in life anyway.
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Not necessarily. Then you shorten the other students.
If 100 (just assuming #s here) are going to the prom and together they raised $4000 (again assuming #s here) during the school year to cover the costs, then if the prom is canceled the school needs to cut a check for $40 for all 100 kids.
I don't know how their prom is structured, but at my school the junior class always paid for the seniors prom. So if we (junior class) had worked our asses off all year to put on this show, and it was canceled, I would expect the money to be returned to us.
Personally, I would say let her go with whatever date she wanted to. It's a fucking overpriced dance that doesn't have any meaning or value later in life anyway.
That's one way to handle it. Another is to just leave the money in the pot for the benefit of the class.
The girl could have also just shut up and had a good time like every other kid. Sort of what Hereford said.
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That's one way to handle it. Another is to just leave the money in the pot for the benefit of the class.
The girl could have also just shut up and had a good time like every other kid. Sort of what Hereford said.
wasn't she trying to have a good time?
She should have not asked permission and just showed up with her date
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That's one way to handle it. Another is to just leave the money in the pot for the benefit of the class.
The girl could have also just shut up and had a good time like every other kid. Sort of what Hereford said.
Or when she asked permission the should have acted like this was 2010 and said "ok see you there"
The girl is at no fault. She wouldnt have said anything and then showed up with her lesbo date, and apprently the school frowns on that and she wouldnt have been let in her prom...hows about that
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Or when she asked permission the should have acted like this was 2010 and said "ok see you there"
The girl is at no fault. She wouldnt have said anything and then showed up with her lesbo date, and apprently the school frowns on that and she wouldnt have been let in her prom...hows about that
That would have been too easy. Sounds like she wanted attention.
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That would have been too easy. Sounds like she wanted attention.
but if the school would have said "yeah bring your dyke date...it is 2010" it would have been a non issue...
Im tellin you...she was right. If she would she wold have showed up with ellen...she would have been turned away and had her night ruined.
She wouldnt have gotten attention if , when she asked, the school said "um ok,...thats cool..have fun"
no the school went all religious and that was wrong of them...
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but if the school would have said "yeah bring your dyke date...it is 2010" it would have been a non issue...
Im tellin you...she was right. If she would she wold have showed up with ellen...she would have been turned away and had her night ruined.
She wouldnt have gotten attention if , when she asked, the school said "um ok,...thats cool..have fun"
no the school went all religious and that was wrong of them...
What was wrong about it? Is there some rule/law the school violated?
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What was wrong about it? Is there some rule/law the school violated?
Well it is a public school
But this attention thing....how is she the one who craved attention, if the school would have said yeah it would have been a non issue...correct?
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Well it is a public school
But this attention thing....how is she the one who craved attention, if the school would have said yeah it would have been a non issue...correct?
I'm not sure what rules they have in Mississippi. If there isn't something protecting lesbians from discrimination in the public schools then I doubt the school did anything wrong.
I'm not sure if it would have been a non-issue. Her girlfriend would have showed up dressed like a dude. Might have been a circus.
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Oh gosh what a retard you are Beach Bum. I bet you would think her lesbianism would some how rub off on the female students and turn them all gay, then the guys would all turn gay and we'd have no babies and it would be sodom all over again right? ::)
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Oh gosh what a retard you are Beach Bum. I bet you would think her lesbianism would some how rub off on the female students and turn them all gay, then the guys would all turn gay and we'd have no babies and it would be sodom all over again right? ::)
Nope. :)
But if you have insight on the rules the school may have violated I'd like to hear it.
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Nope. :)
But if you have insight on the rules the school may have violated I'd like to hear it.
Really beach.. Is that where youre taking this? the school and rules...
I guess :-\
disappointing..
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Really beach.. Is that where youre taking this? the school and rules...
I guess :-\
disappointing..
Isn't that what this is all about? Rules, the law, policy, student's rights, etc.?
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Or when she asked permission the should have acted like this was 2010 and said "ok see you there"
The girl is at no fault. She wouldnt have said anything and then showed up with her lesbo date, and apprently the school frowns on that and she wouldnt have been let in her prom...hows about that
That would have been too easy. Sounds like she wanted attention.
Bum - your answer is Bizzaro
you're saying the easiest and least attention getting response would be TOO EASY
Sounds (and seems) to me like the Adults running the school were the ones who wanted attention
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Isn't that what this is all about? Rules, the law, policy, student's rights, etc.?
well if thats how you feel..if its like that for you...it says a lot about you...volumes
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you know there is no way a public school has a rule that you can't be gay and/or that gays can't attend school functions
If they had that rule then they'd still be having a prom
Most likely what we've got here is one or a few school administrators who have a personal problem with gay people and know they can't legally discriminate but can perhaps legally cancel a school function for some other reason so that what they chose to do. Of course, like most bigots they are afraid of admitting their real reason so they give some bullshit reason instead.
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you know there is no way a public school has a rule that you can't be gay and/or that gays can't attend school functions
If they had that rule then they'd still be having a prom
Most likely what we've got here is one or a few school administrators who have a personal problem with gay people and know they can't legally discriminate but can perhaps legally cancel a school function for some other reason so that what they chose to do. Of course, like most bigots they are afraid of admitting their real reason so they give some bullshit reason instead.
Beach Knows this...The fact that he is taking this road is almost sickening. Like really. Its her fault?
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Beach Knows this...The fact that he is taking this road is almost sickening. Like really. Its her fault?
Beach is probably very much like the people who run that school
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The school board statement said it wouldn't host the event "due to the distractions to the educational process caused by recent events" but didn't mention McMillen. District officials didn't return calls seeking comment Thursday.
WTF is that supposed to mean?
Southside Baptist Church Pastor Bobby Crenshaw said he's seen the South portrayed as "backwards" on Web sites discussing the issue, "but a lot more people here have biblically based values."
Itawamba County is a rural area of about 23,000 people in north Mississippi near the Alabama state line. It's near Pontotoc County, Miss., where more than a decade ago school officials were sued in federal court over their practice of student-led intercom prayer and Bible classes.
http://content.usatoday.net/dist/custom/gci/InsidePage.aspx?cId=honoluluadvertiser&sParam=33007061.story
This is almost like that movie with Kevin Bacon. lol
Hopefully they can still have a privately sponsored prom.
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Most likely what we've got here is one or a few school administrators who have a personal problem with gay people and know they can't legally discriminate but can perhaps legally cancel a school function for some other reason so that what they chose to do. Of course, like most bigots they are afraid of admitting their real reason so they give some bullshit reason instead.
Exactly. Bigots are always pure cowards.
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well if thats how you feel..if its like that for you...it says a lot about you...volumes
Yes that's what I believe. Schools are governed by "rules, the law, policy, student's rights, etc." What a crazy thought. . . .
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Yes that's what I believe. Schools are governed by "rules, the law, policy, student's rights, etc." What a crazy thought. . . .
hey...whatever you gotta tell yourself...ya know
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hey...whatever you gotta tell yourself...ya know
That's exactly what I tell myself. And the funny thing is, that's exactly how our society is run.
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Yes that's what I believe. Schools are governed by "rules, the law, policy, student's rights, etc." What a crazy thought. . . .
if that school had a rule that gay students couldn't attend school events then why didn't they just say so?
what you referring to by students rights?
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if that school had a rule that gay students couldn't attend school events then why didn't they just say so?
what you referring to by students rights?
STRAW...If Beach cant see how the school acted childish in this matter, he isnt worthy of further debate.
Dude the girl said she wanted to take a girl and tried to clear it with the school, in hopes of avoiding any problems on the day of teh prom, and the school decided to act like children and cancel the entire prom..what is that? Grow up, its 2010.
"gimmie my ball im goin home"
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STRAW...If Beach cant see how the school acted childish in this matter, he isnt worthy of further debate.
Dude the girl said she wanted to take a girl and tried to clear it with the school, in hopes of avoiding any problems on the day of teh prom, and the school decided to act like children and cancel the entire prom..what is that? Grow up, its 2010.
"gimmie my ball im goin home"
I wonder what the thinking was? Cancel the prom and let them have it privately so that the school isn't involved in having a prom with gay people?
Pretty lame, especially if a prom never happens.
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STRAW...If Beach cant see how the school acted childish in this matter, he isnt worthy of further debate.
Dude the girl said she wanted to take a girl and tried to clear it with the school, in hopes of avoiding any problems on the day of teh prom, and the school decided to act like children and cancel the entire prom..what is that? Grow up, its 2010.
"gimmie my ball im goin home"
you can't deny the entertainment value of reading Bum's tortured logic as he dances around his own obvious prejudice.
It's the same reason why I like discussing religious topics with Bum and his fellow fundies. It's purely for my own entertainment and amusement
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you can't deny the entertainment value of reading Bum's tortured logic as he dances around his own obvious prejudice.
It's the same reason why I like discussing religious topics with Bum and his fellow fundies. It's purely for my own entertainment and amusement
LOL! ;D
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I wonder what the thinking was? Cancel the prom and let them have it privately so that the school isn't involved in having a prom with gay people?
Pretty lame, especially if a prom never happens.
Cancel the prom. Blame it on homo girl. She gets the back lash from her classmates...
Pretty clear to see that one
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A thread with the words "Lesbian Teen" should have pics/video. >:(
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Cancel the prom. Blame it on homo girl. She gets the back lash from her classmates...
Pretty clear to see that one
Nah because it looks like the school is punishing everyone over its policy with one person. It makes the school look bad too.
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A thread with the words "Lesbian Teen" should have pics/video. >:(
lol...i was trying to be all serious right now...i had to chuckle at that
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A thread with the words "Lesbian Teen" should have pics/video. >:(
Hahaha! :D
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The school board acted rationally and wise. They had to protect themselves from lawsuits from other parents who let their Little Johnny go to the prom and he caught Teh Gayz from those two lesbos.
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You got to hand it to Bum - it didn't take him very long to resume his role as GetBig's resident pinata
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But the alternative of not letting her attend would cause a shit storm for the school also. They put themselves in a bad position either way.
Just like WEED we will see this more and more.
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The school board acted rationally and wise. They had to protect themselves from lawsuits from other parents who let their Little Johnny go to the prom and he caught Teh Gayz from those two lesbos.
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The school board acted rationally and wise. They had to protect themselves from lawsuits from other parents who let their Little Johnny go to the prom and he caught Teh Gayz from those two lesbos.
The gayz? lol
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well i personally like beach..he knows his sports and is a good guy...this really suprised me.. this level of irrational thought
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well i personally like beach..he knows his sports and is a good guy...this really suprised me.. this level of irrational thought
are you really suprised by that?
really?
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are you really suprised by that?
really?
well to be honest, i never talked to beach outside of sports and talkin UH football
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well to be honest, i never talked to beach outside of sports and talkin UH football
ok - that makes sense
this is par for the course for Bum on this board
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well i personally like beach..he knows his sports and is a good guy...this really suprised me.. this level of irrational thought
Hey it's all good mang. We don't have to agree on everything.
But I'm pretty comfortable with my "irrational" belief that you determine whether the school acted inappropriately by looking at the whether the rules, law, etc. were violated.
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The gayz? lol
No.
Teh Gayz. That thing that the gays have. The gayz have Teh Gayz. Which is an airborne pathogen that - when infected - causes people to do, like..., some really weird shit and stuff. Like gentrify ghettos, create the latest and greatness in cutting music, fashion and martinis, congregated at anti-aging clinics, excel at intellectual studies, carve out successful careers, shop at Ikea, torch rivals houses over window treatment disputes, and in general just put sand up the snatches of religious conservatives.
Unless you are Republican. Then it just gives you a false sense of incognito when cruising public toilets or faggy bars. And causes you to cancel fucking proms.
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Hey it's all good mang. We don't have to agree on everything.
But I'm pretty comfortable with my "irrational" belief that you determine whether the school acted inappropriately by looking at the whether the rules, law, etc. were violated.
what rules or laws were violated?
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No.
Teh Gayz. That thing that the gays have. The gayz have Teh Gayz. Which is an airborne pathogen that - when infected - causes people to do, like..., some really weird shit and stuff. Like gentrify ghettos, create the latest and greatness in cutting music, fashion and martinis, congregated at anti-aging clinics, excel at intellectual studies, carve out successful careers, shop at Ikea, torch rivals houses over window treatment disputes, and in general just put sand up the snatches of religious conservatives.
Unless you are Republican. Then it just gives you a false sense of incognito when cruising public toilets or faggy bars. And causes you to cancel fucking proms.
hahahahahahahah
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No.
Teh Gayz. That thing that the gays have. The gayz have Teh Gayz. Which is an airborne pathogen that - when infected - causes people to do, like..., some really weird shit and stuff. Like gentrify ghettos, create the latest and greatness in cutting music, fashion and martinis, congregated at anti-aging clinics, excel at intellectual studies, carve out successful careers, shop at Ikea, torch rivals houses over window treatment disputes, and in general just put sand up the snatches of religious conservatives.
Unless you are Republican. Then it just gives you a false sense of incognito when cruising public toilets or faggy bars. And causes you to cancel fucking proms.
Thats awesome
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what rules or laws were violated?
bump
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No.
Teh Gayz. That thing that the gays have. The gayz have Teh Gayz. Which is an airborne pathogen that - when infected - causes people to do, like..., some really weird shit and stuff. Like gentrify ghettos, create the latest and greatness in cutting music, fashion and martinis, congregated at anti-aging clinics, excel at intellectual studies, carve out successful careers, shop at Ikea, torch rivals houses over window treatment disputes, and in general just put sand up the snatches of religious conservatives.
Unless you are Republican. Then it just gives you a false sense of incognito when cruising public toilets or faggy bars. And causes you to cancel fucking proms.
LoL
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what rules or laws were violated?
Go back and read my comments. That is my question.
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Go back and read my comments. That is my question.
I'm sure there is no law about not holding a prom
the question is what is the real motivation for not holding the prom
The school blew this up into a national story by their actions
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I'm sure there is no law about not holding a prom
the question is what is the real motivation for not holding the prom
The school blew this up into a national story by their actions
The question is what rule, law, policy, etc. did the school violate.
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The question is what rule, law, policy, etc. did the school violate.
like I said, I doubt (I'm sure) there is no law or even any rule within the school or school district that says the school must hold a prom
then again, if they are not holding a prom in order to prevent a gay student from attending then there is most likely both rules and laws in place againts that
That's why the school is almost certainly lying about the reason why they are not holding a prom
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Judge Hears Lesbian Teen's Suit to Force Prom
Monday, 22 Mar 2010
Mississippi officials who canceled a prom after a lesbian student asked to bring her girlfriend told a federal judge Monday that there were issues with the event even before that.
The American Civil Liberties Union is suing in U.S. District Court to force the Itawamba County school district to sponsor the prom and allow Constance McMillen to escort her girlfriend and wear a tuxedo.
Schools Superintendent Teresa McNeece and school board Chairman Eddie Hood testified that they had discussed not sponsoring the prom even before McMillen challenged a rule that prohibits same-sex dates. They said they had concerns about liability problems, including possible use of alcohol and drugs at a school-sponsored event.
But they also said they decided to call off the April 2 prom at Itawamba Agricultural High School because McMillen's challenge to the rules had caused disruptions.
"We were being hounded every day. Our students were being hounded," McNeece said. "We were having a tough time of any bell-to-bell instruction."
McMillen first approached school officials about bringing her girlfriend in December, and again shortly before a Feb. 5 memo about prom rules was circulated to students. Same-sex prom dates had been banned in the past, but she had hoped school officials would grant her request.
She was told two girls could not attend the prom together and she would not be allowed to wear a tuxedo. The ACLU issued a letter earlier this month demanding that she be allowed to bring her girlfriend and wear what she wanted.
District officials responded by canceling the event, saying they felt it was the best decision "after taking into consideration the education, safety and well being of our students."
ACLU attorney Kristy Bennett said in court Monday that the district violated McMillen's First Amendment rights and that it was the decision to cancel the prom not McMillen's request to bring her girlfriend that caused the disruptions school officials described.
"Any disruption came after the actual cancellation of the prom," Bennett said.
McMillen testified the district's decision led to hostility toward her on campus. She said she left school early the day after the district's decision and didn't go at all the next day.
"There were so many dirty looks," McMillen said. "A lot of people didn't like me very much."
The 715-student high school is located in Fulton, a town of about 4,000 in rural north Mississippi. The entire county school district has 3,588 students.
Principal Trae Wiygul said he had been "bombarded" with e-mails, most from people criticizing the district's decision.
"I've been called every name known to man," Wiygul said. "I've been called a bigot and homophobic."
U.S. District Judge Glen H. Davidson, who is hearing the case, did not say when he would rule, but said he wants to do it quickly because "time is of the essence."
http://newsmax.com/US/US-Lesbian-Prom-Date/2010/03/22/id/353511
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who gives a shit?
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who gives a shit?
The woman who provided her analysis of this situation on page 1 of the thread apparently does:
If this is a public school then I don't see how they can legally discriminate against her and not allow her to attend a school event simply because she is gay
I doubt there is any legal requirement to hold a prom so that might be a dead end
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Judge Rules Against Lesbian Teen in Prom Flap
Tuesday, 23 Mar 2010
A federal judge says he won't force a Mississippi school district to hold a prom canceled after a lesbian student asked to bring her girlfriend.
The American Civil Liberties Union sued in U.S. District Court to force the Itawamba County school district to sponsor the prom and allow Constance McMillen to escort her girlfriend and wear a tuxedo.
U.S. District Judge Glen H. Davidson denied a motion for a preliminary injunction, but said he'll still hold a trial. But he didn't set a date, and it could be too late to hold the April 2 prom at Itawamba Agricultural High School. Officials said in court they canceled it because McMillen's challenge to the rules had caused disruptions.
McMillen first approached school officials about bringing her girlfriend in December, and again in February. They said no.
http://newsmax.com/US/US-Lesbian-Prom-Date/2010/03/23/id/353646
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Judge Rules Against Lesbian Teen in Prom Flap
Tuesday, 23 Mar 2010
A federal judge says he won't force a Mississippi school district to hold a prom canceled after a lesbian student asked to bring her girlfriend.
The American Civil Liberties Union sued in U.S. District Court to force the Itawamba County school district to sponsor the prom and allow Constance McMillen to escort her girlfriend and wear a tuxedo.
U.S. District Judge Glen H. Davidson denied a motion for a preliminary injunction, but said he'll still hold a trial. But he didn't set a date, and it could be too late to hold the April 2 prom at Itawamba Agricultural High School. Officials said in court they canceled it because McMillen's challenge to the rules had caused disruptions.
McMillen first approached school officials about bringing her girlfriend in December, and again in February. They said no.
http://newsmax.com/US/US-Lesbian-Prom-Date/2010/03/23/id/353646
Hey Bum - is that the actual COMPLETE story on NewsMax
did you edit out any parts?
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come on Bum
you know what I'm talking about
can we all agree that NewsMax is not a "NEWS" site?
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Judge Rules Against Lesbian Teen in Prom Flap
Tuesday, 23 Mar 2010
A federal judge says he won't force a Mississippi school district to hold a prom canceled after a lesbian student asked to bring her girlfriend.
The American Civil Liberties Union sued in U.S. District Court to force the Itawamba County school district to sponsor the prom and allow Constance McMillen to escort her girlfriend and wear a tuxedo.
U.S. District Judge Glen H. Davidson denied a motion for a preliminary injunction, but said he'll still hold a trial. But he didn't set a date, and it could be too late to hold the April 2 prom at Itawamba Agricultural High School. Officials said in court they canceled it because McMillen's challenge to the rules had caused disruptions.
McMillen first approached school officials about bringing her girlfriend in December, and again in February. They said no.
http://newsmax.com/US/US-Lesbian-Prom-Date/2010/03/23/id/353646
Odd, the story in the mainstream news was that the judge sided with her rights but not for forcing the event to happen. Interesting to see how Newfuckmax spins it.
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come on Bum
you know what I'm talking about
can we all agree that NewsMax is not a "NEWS" site?
newsmax is not a news site. That's established. It's a glorified blog.
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newsmax is not a news site. That's established. It's a glorified blog.
blogs usually have some agenda or at the very least a subject or theme (cooking, lifting weights, diet, etc..)
what is NewsMax all about?
what is their agenda?
why do they use the word News when they are the exact opposite of News?
They are an opinion site
They "process" the news to fit their point of view and deliver it to guys like Bum who gobble it up and shit it here on GetBig.com
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Odd, the story in the mainstream news was that the judge sided with her rights but not for forcing the event to happen. Interesting to see how Newfuckmax spins it.
just imagine if you only got your news from NewsMax how completely misinformed you would be about the "NEWS"
Hey Bum, why do you think NewsMax left out the material facts of the story?
In his 12-page order, Davidson also ruled that Itawamba Agricultural High School's denial of 18-year-old Constance McMillen's request to wear a tuxedo to her prom was a violation of her rights.
full text of opinion here: http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/03/23/opinion.pdf
"The record shows Constance has been openly gay since eighth grade and she intended to communicate a message by wearing a tuxedo and to express her identity through attending prom with a same-sex date," Davidson wrote.
"The court finds this expression and communication of her viewpoint is the type of speech that falls squarely within the purview of the First Amendment."
from CNN (an actual news site): http://www.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/03/23/mississippi.lesbians.prom/index.html?npt=NP1
McMillen's case is going forward on a damages claim and the ACLU's request for attorneys' fees, she said. "She got what she wanted, and now it's just a question of what the damages might be in her case."
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Odd, the story in the mainstream news was that the judge sided with her rights but not for forcing the event to happen. Interesting to see how Newfuckmax spins it.
That's exactly what happened. Her request to force the school to hold the prom was denied, i.e., "judge ruled against lesbian teen." The article also said the judge will "still hold a trial." Sounds pretty clear to me. But then I'm not all hung up on source instead of the story.
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newsmax is not a news site. That's established. It's a glorified blog.
lol. Established by who? It's a website that posts stories and articles just like Huffington Post.
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That's exactly what happened. Her request to force the school to hold the prom was denied, i.e., "judge ruled against lesbian teen." The article also said the judge will "still hold a trial." Sounds pretty clear to me. But then I'm not all hung up on source instead of the story.
Bum - you can't deny the fact that the story in NewsMax omitted material facts of the judges decision and if someone only read the story in NewsMax they would be grossly misinformed about the fact of the case. Why not include all the fact and also the pdf of the judges full opinion (like CNN did) so that readers can get the full story.
Do you think the exclusion of the full facts of the decision was intentional or merely an outrageous case of shoddy journalism?
From the judges opinion:
According to the clearly established case law, Defendants have violated her First
Amendment rights by denying Constance's request to bring her girlfriend as her date to the prom.
The Court finds this expression and communication of her viewpoint is the type of speech that falls squarely within th’ purview of the First Amendment. The Court is also of the opinion that the motive behind the School Board's cancellation of the prom, or withdrawal of their sponsorship, was Constande's requests and the ACLU's demand letter sent on her behalf. For all of the foregoing Jasons, the Court finds that Constance's First Amendment rights have been violated and therfore, she has established, by a preponderance of the evidence, a substantial likelihood of succcess on the merits with respect to her First Amendment claim.
The Court has already found that Defendants' policies against same-sex dates and girls not wearing tuxedos, along with Defendants' action of cancelling the prom, or withdrawing their sponsorship of the prom, have infringed upon Constance's First Amendment rights and therefore, there is a substantial threat that irreparable harm. will occur. The Court finds that Constance has clearly met her burden of persuasion as to the second Canal Authority factor.
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lol. Established by who? It's a website that posts stories and articles just like Huffington Post.
it's strange how there is no authors name on the story from NewsMax
My guess would be that no journalist in their right mind would want to put their name on the piece of propaganda and face the ridicule of real journalists
what do you think the reason is why there is no author listed?
Did the story write itself?