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Re: Lesbian teen sues to force school to hold prom
« Reply #50 on: March 16, 2010, 11:35:55 AM »
well i personally like beach..he knows his sports and is a good guy...this really suprised me.. this level of irrational thought

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Re: Lesbian teen sues to force school to hold prom
« Reply #51 on: March 16, 2010, 11:37:32 AM »
well i personally like beach..he knows his sports and is a good guy...this really suprised me.. this level of irrational thought

are you really suprised by that?

really?

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Re: Lesbian teen sues to force school to hold prom
« Reply #52 on: March 16, 2010, 11:38:21 AM »
are you really suprised by that?

really?
well to be honest, i never talked to beach outside of sports and talkin UH football

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Re: Lesbian teen sues to force school to hold prom
« Reply #53 on: March 16, 2010, 11:39:24 AM »
well to be honest, i never talked to beach outside of sports and talkin UH football

ok - that makes sense

this is par for the course for Bum on this board

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Re: Lesbian teen sues to force school to hold prom
« Reply #54 on: March 16, 2010, 11:43:19 AM »
well i personally like beach..he knows his sports and is a good guy...this really suprised me.. this level of irrational thought

Hey it's all good mang.  We don't have to agree on everything. 

But I'm pretty comfortable with my "irrational" belief that you determine whether the school acted inappropriately by looking at the whether the rules, law, etc. were violated. 

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Re: Lesbian teen sues to force school to hold prom
« Reply #55 on: March 16, 2010, 11:44:05 AM »
The gayz?   lol

No.

Teh Gayz.  That thing that the gays have.  The gayz have Teh Gayz.  Which is an airborne pathogen that - when infected - causes people to do, like..., some really weird shit and stuff.  Like gentrify ghettos, create the latest and greatness in cutting music, fashion and martinis, congregated at anti-aging clinics, excel at intellectual studies, carve out successful careers, shop at Ikea, torch rivals houses over window treatment disputes, and in general just put sand up the snatches of religious conservatives.

Unless you are Republican.  Then it just gives you a false sense of incognito when cruising public toilets or faggy bars.  And causes you to cancel fucking proms.

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Re: Lesbian teen sues to force school to hold prom
« Reply #56 on: March 16, 2010, 11:45:00 AM »
Hey it's all good mang.  We don't have to agree on everything. 

But I'm pretty comfortable with my "irrational" belief that you determine whether the school acted inappropriately by looking at the whether the rules, law, etc. were violated. 
what rules or laws were violated?


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Re: Lesbian teen sues to force school to hold prom
« Reply #57 on: March 16, 2010, 11:46:47 AM »
No.

Teh Gayz.  That thing that the gays have.  The gayz have Teh Gayz.  Which is an airborne pathogen that - when infected - causes people to do, like..., some really weird shit and stuff.  Like gentrify ghettos, create the latest and greatness in cutting music, fashion and martinis, congregated at anti-aging clinics, excel at intellectual studies, carve out successful careers, shop at Ikea, torch rivals houses over window treatment disputes, and in general just put sand up the snatches of religious conservatives.

Unless you are Republican.  Then it just gives you a false sense of incognito when cruising public toilets or faggy bars.  And causes you to cancel fucking proms.

hahahahahahahah

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Re: Lesbian teen sues to force school to hold prom
« Reply #58 on: March 16, 2010, 11:51:47 AM »
No.

Teh Gayz.  That thing that the gays have.  The gayz have Teh Gayz.  Which is an airborne pathogen that - when infected - causes people to do, like..., some really weird shit and stuff.  Like gentrify ghettos, create the latest and greatness in cutting music, fashion and martinis, congregated at anti-aging clinics, excel at intellectual studies, carve out successful careers, shop at Ikea, torch rivals houses over window treatment disputes, and in general just put sand up the snatches of religious conservatives.

Unless you are Republican.  Then it just gives you a false sense of incognito when cruising public toilets or faggy bars.  And causes you to cancel fucking proms.

Thats awesome

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Re: Lesbian teen sues to force school to hold prom
« Reply #59 on: March 16, 2010, 11:57:50 AM »
what rules or laws were violated?

bump

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Re: Lesbian teen sues to force school to hold prom
« Reply #60 on: March 16, 2010, 12:01:57 PM »
No.

Teh Gayz.  That thing that the gays have.  The gayz have Teh Gayz.  Which is an airborne pathogen that - when infected - causes people to do, like..., some really weird shit and stuff.  Like gentrify ghettos, create the latest and greatness in cutting music, fashion and martinis, congregated at anti-aging clinics, excel at intellectual studies, carve out successful careers, shop at Ikea, torch rivals houses over window treatment disputes, and in general just put sand up the snatches of religious conservatives.

Unless you are Republican.  Then it just gives you a false sense of incognito when cruising public toilets or faggy bars.  And causes you to cancel fucking proms.
LoL

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Re: Lesbian teen sues to force school to hold prom
« Reply #61 on: March 16, 2010, 12:02:10 PM »
what rules or laws were violated?



Go back and read my comments.  That is my question.  

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Re: Lesbian teen sues to force school to hold prom
« Reply #62 on: March 16, 2010, 12:11:07 PM »
Go back and read my comments.  That is my question.  
I'm sure there is no law about not holding a prom

the question is what is the real motivation for not holding the prom

The school blew this up into a national story by their actions

 

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Re: Lesbian teen sues to force school to hold prom
« Reply #63 on: March 16, 2010, 12:18:38 PM »
I'm sure there is no law about not holding a prom

the question is what is the real motivation for not holding the prom

The school blew this up into a national story by their actions

 

The question is what rule, law, policy, etc. did the school violate. 

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Re: Lesbian teen sues to force school to hold prom
« Reply #64 on: March 16, 2010, 12:21:45 PM »
The question is what rule, law, policy, etc. did the school violate.  

like I said, I doubt (I'm sure) there is no law or even any rule within the school or school district that says the school must hold a prom

then again, if they are not holding a prom in order to prevent a gay student from attending then there is most likely both rules and laws in place againts that

That's why the school is almost certainly lying about the reason why they are not holding a prom

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Re: Lesbian teen sues to force school to hold prom
« Reply #65 on: March 22, 2010, 09:37:39 PM »
Judge Hears Lesbian Teen's Suit to Force Prom
Monday, 22 Mar 2010     

Mississippi officials who canceled a prom after a lesbian student asked to bring her girlfriend told a federal judge Monday that there were issues with the event even before that.

The American Civil Liberties Union is suing in U.S. District Court to force the Itawamba County school district to sponsor the prom and allow Constance McMillen to escort her girlfriend and wear a tuxedo.

Schools Superintendent Teresa McNeece and school board Chairman Eddie Hood testified that they had discussed not sponsoring the prom even before McMillen challenged a rule that prohibits same-sex dates. They said they had concerns about liability problems, including possible use of alcohol and drugs at a school-sponsored event.

But they also said they decided to call off the April 2 prom at Itawamba Agricultural High School because McMillen's challenge to the rules had caused disruptions.

"We were being hounded every day. Our students were being hounded," McNeece said. "We were having a tough time of any bell-to-bell instruction."

McMillen first approached school officials about bringing her girlfriend in December, and again shortly before a Feb. 5 memo about prom rules was circulated to students. Same-sex prom dates had been banned in the past, but she had hoped school officials would grant her request.

She was told two girls could not attend the prom together and she would not be allowed to wear a tuxedo. The ACLU issued a letter earlier this month demanding that she be allowed to bring her girlfriend and wear what she wanted.

District officials responded by canceling the event, saying they felt it was the best decision "after taking into consideration the education, safety and well being of our students."

ACLU attorney Kristy Bennett said in court Monday that the district violated McMillen's First Amendment rights and that it was the decision to cancel the prom — not McMillen's request to bring her girlfriend — that caused the disruptions school officials described.

"Any disruption came after the actual cancellation of the prom," Bennett said.

McMillen testified the district's decision led to hostility toward her on campus. She said she left school early the day after the district's decision and didn't go at all the next day.

"There were so many dirty looks," McMillen said. "A lot of people didn't like me very much."

The 715-student high school is located in Fulton, a town of about 4,000 in rural north Mississippi. The entire county school district has 3,588 students.

Principal Trae Wiygul said he had been "bombarded" with e-mails, most from people criticizing the district's decision.

"I've been called every name known to man," Wiygul said. "I've been called a bigot and homophobic."

U.S. District Judge Glen H. Davidson, who is hearing the case, did not say when he would rule, but said he wants to do it quickly because "time is of the essence."

http://newsmax.com/US/US-Lesbian-Prom-Date/2010/03/22/id/353511

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Re: Lesbian teen sues to force school to hold prom
« Reply #66 on: March 22, 2010, 09:45:20 PM »
who gives a shit?

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Re: Lesbian teen sues to force school to hold prom
« Reply #67 on: March 23, 2010, 12:43:42 PM »
who gives a shit?

The woman who provided her analysis of this situation on page 1 of the thread apparently does:

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If this is a public school then I don't see how they can legally discriminate against her and not allow her to attend a school event simply because she is gay

I doubt there is any legal requirement to hold a prom so that might be a dead end

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Re: Lesbian teen sues to force school to hold prom
« Reply #68 on: March 23, 2010, 09:44:02 PM »
Judge Rules Against Lesbian Teen in Prom Flap

Tuesday, 23 Mar 2010
 
A federal judge says he won't force a Mississippi school district to hold a prom canceled after a lesbian student asked to bring her girlfriend.

The American Civil Liberties Union sued in U.S. District Court to force the Itawamba County school district to sponsor the prom and allow Constance McMillen to escort her girlfriend and wear a tuxedo.

U.S. District Judge Glen H. Davidson denied a motion for a preliminary injunction, but said he'll still hold a trial. But he didn't set a date, and it could be too late to hold the April 2 prom at Itawamba Agricultural High School. Officials said in court they canceled it because McMillen's challenge to the rules had caused disruptions.

McMillen first approached school officials about bringing her girlfriend in December, and again in February. They said no.

http://newsmax.com/US/US-Lesbian-Prom-Date/2010/03/23/id/353646

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Re: Lesbian teen sues to force school to hold prom
« Reply #69 on: March 23, 2010, 09:52:52 PM »
Judge Rules Against Lesbian Teen in Prom Flap

Tuesday, 23 Mar 2010
 
A federal judge says he won't force a Mississippi school district to hold a prom canceled after a lesbian student asked to bring her girlfriend.

The American Civil Liberties Union sued in U.S. District Court to force the Itawamba County school district to sponsor the prom and allow Constance McMillen to escort her girlfriend and wear a tuxedo.

U.S. District Judge Glen H. Davidson denied a motion for a preliminary injunction, but said he'll still hold a trial. But he didn't set a date, and it could be too late to hold the April 2 prom at Itawamba Agricultural High School. Officials said in court they canceled it because McMillen's challenge to the rules had caused disruptions.

McMillen first approached school officials about bringing her girlfriend in December, and again in February. They said no.

http://newsmax.com/US/US-Lesbian-Prom-Date/2010/03/23/id/353646

Hey Bum - is that the actual COMPLETE story on NewsMax

did you edit out any parts?

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Re: Lesbian teen sues to force school to hold prom
« Reply #70 on: March 23, 2010, 10:04:58 PM »
come on Bum

you know what I'm talking about

can we all agree that NewsMax is not a "NEWS" site?

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Re: Lesbian teen sues to force school to hold prom
« Reply #71 on: March 23, 2010, 10:19:08 PM »
Judge Rules Against Lesbian Teen in Prom Flap

Tuesday, 23 Mar 2010
 
A federal judge says he won't force a Mississippi school district to hold a prom canceled after a lesbian student asked to bring her girlfriend.

The American Civil Liberties Union sued in U.S. District Court to force the Itawamba County school district to sponsor the prom and allow Constance McMillen to escort her girlfriend and wear a tuxedo.

U.S. District Judge Glen H. Davidson denied a motion for a preliminary injunction, but said he'll still hold a trial. But he didn't set a date, and it could be too late to hold the April 2 prom at Itawamba Agricultural High School. Officials said in court they canceled it because McMillen's challenge to the rules had caused disruptions.

McMillen first approached school officials about bringing her girlfriend in December, and again in February. They said no.

http://newsmax.com/US/US-Lesbian-Prom-Date/2010/03/23/id/353646
Odd, the story in the mainstream news was that the judge sided with her rights but not for forcing the event to happen.  Interesting to see how Newfuckmax spins it.

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Re: Lesbian teen sues to force school to hold prom
« Reply #72 on: March 23, 2010, 10:21:29 PM »
come on Bum

you know what I'm talking about

can we all agree that NewsMax is not a "NEWS" site?

newsmax is not a news site.  That's established.  It's a glorified blog.

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Re: Lesbian teen sues to force school to hold prom
« Reply #73 on: March 23, 2010, 11:04:46 PM »
newsmax is not a news site.  That's established.  It's a glorified blog.

blogs usually have some agenda or at the very least a subject or theme (cooking, lifting weights, diet, etc..)

what is NewsMax all about?

what is their agenda?

why do they use the word News when they are the exact opposite of News?

They are an opinion site

They "process" the news to fit their point of view and deliver it to guys like Bum who gobble it up and shit it here on GetBig.com




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Re: Lesbian teen sues to force school to hold prom
« Reply #74 on: March 24, 2010, 08:16:04 AM »
Odd, the story in the mainstream news was that the judge sided with her rights but not for forcing the event to happen.  Interesting to see how Newfuckmax spins it.

just imagine if you only got your news from NewsMax how completely misinformed you would be about the "NEWS"

Hey Bum, why do you think NewsMax left out the material facts of the story?

 In his 12-page order, Davidson also ruled that Itawamba Agricultural High School's denial of 18-year-old Constance McMillen's request to wear a tuxedo to her prom was a violation of her rights.

full text of opinion here:  http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/03/23/opinion.pdf

"The record shows Constance has been openly gay since eighth grade and she intended to communicate a message by wearing a tuxedo and to express her identity through attending prom with a same-sex date," Davidson wrote.

"The court finds this expression and communication of her viewpoint is the type of speech that falls squarely within the purview of the First Amendment."


from CNN (an actual news site): http://www.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/03/23/mississippi.lesbians.prom/index.html?npt=NP1

 McMillen's case is going forward on a damages claim and the ACLU's request for attorneys' fees, she said. "She got what she wanted, and now it's just a question of what the damages might be in her case."