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Can he become Mr O with a back like this?
discuss..
(http://www.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/IMG_%20109.jpg)
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Can he become Mr O with a back like this?
discuss..
(http://www.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/IMG_%20109.jpg)
I don't think he has the genetics to become a Mr Olympia.
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I don't know why Stavios is hypen the shit out of this dude ::)
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I don't know why Stavios is hypen the shit out of this dude ::)
He could be top six.
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his lat insertion is actually quite low which is a good start.
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Can he become Mr O with a back like this?
discuss..
(http://www.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/IMG_%20109.jpg)
its EVEN WORSE standing with other competitors. ::)
:D
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someone post the photo of him standing by himself when his back looked like colemans :D
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never trust a pic taken in a mirror's reflection... most of the ones where arnold looked huge were taken that way btw.
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someone post the photo of him standing by himself when his back looked like colemans :D
haha
everyone looks awesome when standing alone.
the guy has incredible arms and quads, thats it.
even his midsection looks funky.
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haha
everyone looks awesome when standing alone.
the guy has incredible arms and quads, thats it.
even his midsection looks funky.
he holds his own with dex in the side poses and most of the front ones though, hopefully he can do something about this back
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a very shitty back
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a very shitty back
Yet, Branch's is worse
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I dont think he would make top 6 if Jay, Victor, Dexter, Branch, Phil are in it..IMO
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wish my back was that shitty
still looks the best IMO after phil out of all bbers
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Ironneck, I for one am not knocking his back for sure, just dont seeing cracking top 6 but depends on the line up and how they come in
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its EVEN WORSE standing with other competitors. ::)
:D
yeah but look at the guy's neck from behind, the traps are crazy, with a neck like that you can take some beating with a bat and be ok, must count for something.
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funny that i saw him in 2005 or 6 and he was just an athletic guy and now he belongs to the top guys
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wish my back was that shitty
still looks the best IMO after phil out of all bbers
you have a shitty back ironnecked, but good arms. why is that always so, guy with good arms has shitty torso, and guy with wide and musular torso has stick legs and arms.
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Can he become Mr O with a back like this?
discuss..
(http://www.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/IMG_%20109.jpg)
You picked a pic where he hasn't fully gotten into the lat spread.
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Can he become Mr O with a back like this?
discuss..
(http://www.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/IMG_%20109.jpg)
Hard to believe that's the same guy.
(http://www.team-andro.com/coppermine/albums/wettkampf/Winklaar%20210210/Wesel210210_%2822%29.JPG)
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Pretty sure Matt T picked a pic where hes not hitting the pose fully. Before I flame the shit outta him tho, I could be wrong. Im just to lazy to go check.
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One can obviosuly see he's not fully posed yet(Matt should know this since he's a competitor). also he doesnt pose well enough to show off his back properly....
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when did the hate start on roelly, what triggered it in matt tshinkourangutang's case?
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when did the hate start on roelly, what triggered it in matt tshinkourangutang's case?
Matt has the common Hate on Other Black Men Disease, it's common amongst black folk...he sees in him how easily he became a pro, and is doing damage, yet Matt must put in work...
Sure Roelly has some weaknesses, But Roelly himself said that Dex told him he was going to win the Arnold Amatuer Pro qaulifier...so there must ve something that Dex saw in him. Dude has it, you can't deny it, and there are no supps companies or magazines hyping him up.
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MattT IS hating on this guy indeed, can't even get his name straight.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=323888.msg4595004#msg4595004
I think it's jealousy as well. Roelly trains a few years and can stand with the best in the world without looking out of line. While Matt is still figuring out where Dubai, India is.
The fact that he asks of a guy who's only training for a few years and just in his 2nd pro show qualified for the O after making a great pro debut in a stack field at the Arnold, says enough about how much Matt looks up to "Rolley".
MattT, why don't you respond to the back latspread that affeman posted from Roelly?
Clearly the mass is there and there is more space with that low insertion point to expand.
For someone with a "weak" back Per Bernal seems to be pretty interested to take quite a few shots...
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Here some more in relaxed and flexed position.
Feel free to add yours to the mix MassT
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I don't know why Stavios is hypen the shit out of this dude ::)
yeah hyping the shit about this dude = 1 thread with precontest pictures ::)
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yeah hyping the shit about this dude = 1 thread with precontest pictures ::)
MattT has some explaining to do.
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Can he become Mr O with a back like this?
discuss..
(http://www.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/IMG_%20109.jpg)
Is that his FULL lat spread or just a bid pic?
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Is that his FULL lat spread or just a bid pic?
I dunno... it could go either way... this is why pics suck.
If it is, he's Shawn Ray narrow.. However judging from the width on his precontest pics I dont think he's fully spread yet.
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I dunno... it could go either way... this is why pics suck.
If it is, he's Shawn Ray narrow.. However judging from the width on his precontest pics I dont think he's fully spread yet.
Ok, someone HAS to come up with a good joke out of that one.
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Can he become Mr O with a back like this?
discuss..
(http://www.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/IMG_%20109.jpg)
No, he's over rated, flash in the pan. Big arms, big chest, big shoulders, no detail in his lower half and weak back.
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Hard to believe that's the same guy.
(http://www.team-andro.com/coppermine/albums/wettkampf/Winklaar%20210210/Wesel210210_%2822%29.JPG)
You can see from the elbow position that he "over pulled" the lat spread in the contest pic. In this one he flares his back "out and across"..
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This is the back that should have been 3rd..
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yeah hyping the shit about this dude = 1 thread with precontest pictures ::)
You said he would own at the Arnold, when i saw that, i thought you had been smokin crack in order to say something like that, yeh he owned 7th place alright!
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Nope that's his full back lat spread on stage MD has the same pic, don't make excuses for the dude, if he has a weak back he has a weak back. We just know that he will never become mr o with a weak back, every mr o winner had a awesome back.
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/Aust-237.jpg)
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Nope that's his full back lat spread on stage MD has the same pic, don't make excuses for the dude, if he has a weak back he has a weak back. We just know that he will never become mr o with a weak back, every mr o winner had a awesome back.
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/Aust-237.jpg)
Dude you know that dude is getting ready to hit a full lat spread. Because in the other pics, it is fully out. And you can see that his forearms are angled downward at the waist, whereas in the fully spread lat pose his forearm angle up above the waist. You need to stop playa hatin Matt, it's not a good look. He may never be Mr. O, but he will be a top 6 or top 5 guy sooner later, more sooner than later. Once he gets his back thicker and more detailed and a thicker chest...watch out.
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You can see from the elbow position that he "over pulled" the lat spread in the contest pic. In this one he flares his back "out and across"..
Exactly,all this is,is a question of not knowing how to "feel" a pose right,its two different things to hit a pose in the gym and have someone there to tell you to move your hands slightly,pull the elbows back a little,and then tell you you to hold that position while they take a pic.And then trying to recreate that pose onstage all alone.Roelly just needs to spend a lot more time hitting poses to find the right position on each shot.Actually this applies to most of the pro`s today,none of them seem to know how to hit each pose to its best effect.
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if he has a weak back he has a weak back.
SHOWING a weak back, because of not knowing how to pose it (yet) is something different than HAVING a weak back.
Read what crownshep said above here, I agree with him.
From the 4 pics I posted and the posted pic of his latspread in the gym, you really call his back a weak back?
It's not a Coleman, Yates or Haney back but it CERTAINLY is NOT a weak back.
Why don't you take some of that thickness out of that head of yours and add it to your legs?
Sidenote: The back pics posted of Mike Kefalianos are phenomenal!! :o
Best back of that night (Kai and Dex included)
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You said he would own at the Arnold, when i saw that, i thought you had been smokin crack in order to say something like that, yeh he owned 7th place alright!
I meant that he would own for a pro debut, and he did own a lot of good guys!
his 7th place at the ASC would still place top 10 at the O.
at his PRO DEBUT.
seems like you are jealous of the guy :o
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I meant that he would own for a pro debut, and he did own a lot of good guys!
his 7th place at the ASC would still place top 10 at the O.
at his PRO DEBUT.
seems like you are jealous of the guy :o
he did Amazingly good.
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matt t- angry homo.
maybe he's upset rolley has a better physique than will harris?
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This is the back that should have been 3rd..
Respect to that guy, gained a ton of size and always comes in shredded.
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Respect to that guy, gained a ton of size and always comes in shredded.
This guy can hang with Phil Heath from the rear. ;)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=324175.0;attach=363040;image) (http://contests.flexonline.com/images/contests/large/7905.jpg)
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This is the back that should have been 3rd..
Agreed
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Here some more in relaxed and flexed position.
Feel free to add yours to the mix MassT
here we go again.. ::)
hey tool, why dont you post pics of your hero standing next to other competitors?
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for a rookie to look like that, is an amazing feat in itself
fuck the hataz !
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(http://www.team-andro.com/coppermine/albums/wettkampf/Winklaar%20210210/Wesel210210_%2822%29.JPG)
awesome back...
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Yet, Branch's is worse
Branch is white, he‘s lucky to be up onstage at all.
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hey tool, why dont you post pics of your hero standing next to other competitors?
Hey fuckface, since when am I your secretary? Enough pics online to show you that his posing from the back isn't all that and that he can use more mass on his back still, but to say that his back is weak is to be discussed with the pics I posted.
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for a rookie to look like that, is an amazing feat in itself
fuck the hataz !
You can tell from the front double bi that he either wasnt finished posing, or hit it wrong in the Lat Spread pic. There is no way his back is that narrow based on that front pic.
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(http://www.team-andro.com/coppermine/albums/wettkampf/Winklaar%20210210/Wesel210210_%2822%29.JPG)
awesome back...
indeed, when standing alone in an empty room.
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/Aust-237.jpg)
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what's up mezo?
don't you think he's one of the best?
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indeed, when standing alone in an empty room.
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/Aust-237.jpg)
he's standing "alone" in that picture too, you can't honestly think that's the same pose
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Thats the whole point,he`s not "stood alone",he`s got a photographer telling him to move his hands up or down into the right position,telling him to pull his elbows forward or backwards until he hits it just right,then tells him to hold it while he takes the pic.Onstage is a different matter,then you really are stood alone.In the 70s and 80s we would spend an hour after training practising posing in the mirror so that we knew the right "feel" and position of each pose,and obviously the rear lat spread and rear double biceps are the hardest because you can`t see them.The pro`s today don`t seem to spend any time practising.You see them hit a double biceps and the elbows are held too high up,the leg position is all wrong,and its just a few basics that they don`t bother to learn,that could make them look a lot better.
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Thats the whole point,he`s not "stood alone",he`s got a photographer telling him to move his hands up or down into the right position,telling him to pull his elbows forward or backwards until he hits it just right,then tells him to hold it while he takes the pic.Onstage is a different matter,then you really are stood alone.In the 70s and 80s we would spend an hour after training practising posing in the mirror so that we knew the right "feel" and position of each pose,and obviously the rear lat spread and rear double biceps are the hardest because you can`t see them.The pro`s today don`t seem to spend any time practising.You see them hit a double biceps and the elbows are held too high up,the leg position is all wrong,and its just a few basics that they don`t bother to learn,that could make them look a lot better.
yeah, im not disputing that he's posing poorly in the on stage picture. The whole premise of my post is that he was posing differently in the two pictures.