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Title: Australia Pro: Rolley's Back
Post by: MattT on March 12, 2010, 11:06:45 PM
Can he become Mr O with a back like this?
discuss..
(http://www.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/IMG_%20109.jpg)
Title: Re: Rolley's Back
Post by: James Blunt on March 12, 2010, 11:08:57 PM
Can he become Mr O with a back like this?
discuss..
(http://www.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/IMG_%20109.jpg)
I don't think he has the genetics to become a Mr Olympia.
Title: Re: Rolley's Back
Post by: MattT on March 12, 2010, 11:10:53 PM
I don't know why Stavios is hypen the shit out of this dude ::)
Title: Re: Rolley's Back
Post by: Matt C on March 12, 2010, 11:28:52 PM
I don't know why Stavios is hypen the shit out of this dude ::)

He could be top six.
Title: Re: Rolley's Back
Post by: jwb on March 12, 2010, 11:30:12 PM
his lat insertion is actually quite low which is a good start.
Title: Re: Rolley's Back
Post by: Meso_z on March 13, 2010, 12:52:07 AM
Can he become Mr O with a back like this?
discuss..
(http://www.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/IMG_%20109.jpg)

its EVEN WORSE standing with other competitors. ::)

 :D

Title: Re: Rolley's Back
Post by: spinnis on March 13, 2010, 12:59:16 AM
someone post the photo of him standing by himself when his back looked like colemans :D
Title: Re: Rolley's Back
Post by: jwb on March 13, 2010, 01:17:09 AM
never trust a pic taken in a mirror's reflection... most of the ones where arnold looked huge were taken that way btw.
Title: Re: Rolley's Back
Post by: Meso_z on March 13, 2010, 01:34:41 AM
someone post the photo of him standing by himself when his back looked like colemans :D
haha

everyone looks awesome when standing alone.

the guy has incredible arms and quads, thats it.

even his midsection looks funky.
Title: Re: Rolley's Back
Post by: spinnis on March 13, 2010, 02:10:22 AM
haha

everyone looks awesome when standing alone.

the guy has incredible arms and quads, thats it.

even his midsection looks funky.

he holds his own with dex in the side poses and most of the front ones though, hopefully he can do something about this back
Title: Re: Rolley's Back
Post by: musclecenter on March 13, 2010, 02:59:31 AM
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Title: Re: Rolley's Back
Post by: phyxsius on March 13, 2010, 05:03:57 AM
a very shitty back
Title: Re: Rolley's Back
Post by: Parker on March 13, 2010, 05:06:09 AM
a very shitty back
Yet, Branch's is worse
Title: Re: Rolley's Back
Post by: newmom on March 13, 2010, 05:10:27 AM
I dont think he would make top 6 if Jay, Victor, Dexter, Branch, Phil are in it..IMO
Title: Re: Rolley's Back
Post by: ironneck on March 13, 2010, 05:11:44 AM
wish my back was that shitty

still looks the best IMO after phil out of all bbers
Title: Re: Rolley's Back
Post by: newmom on March 13, 2010, 05:13:24 AM
Ironneck, I for one am not knocking his back for sure, just dont seeing cracking top 6 but depends on the line up and how they come in
Title: Re: Rolley's Back
Post by: EL Mariachi on March 13, 2010, 05:21:07 AM
its EVEN WORSE standing with other competitors. ::)

 :D



yeah but look at the guy's neck from behind, the traps are crazy, with a neck like that you can take some beating with a bat and be ok, must count for something.
Title: Re: Rolley's Back
Post by: ironneck on March 13, 2010, 05:22:59 AM
funny that i saw him in 2005 or 6 and he was just an athletic guy and now he belongs to the top guys
Title: Re: Rolley's Back
Post by: EL Mariachi on March 13, 2010, 05:23:59 AM
wish my back was that shitty

still looks the best IMO after phil out of all bbers


you have a shitty back ironnecked, but good arms. why is that always so, guy with good arms has shitty torso, and guy with wide and musular torso has stick legs and arms.
Title: Re: Rolley's Back
Post by: Parker on March 13, 2010, 05:26:13 AM
Can he become Mr O with a back like this?
discuss..
(http://www.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/IMG_%20109.jpg)
You picked a pic where he hasn't fully gotten into the lat spread.
Title: Re: Rolley's Back
Post by: affeman on March 13, 2010, 06:13:23 AM
Can he become Mr O with a back like this?
discuss..
(http://www.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/IMG_%20109.jpg)

Hard to believe that's the same guy.

(http://www.team-andro.com/coppermine/albums/wettkampf/Winklaar%20210210/Wesel210210_%2822%29.JPG)
Title: Re: Rolley's Back
Post by: Shockwave on March 13, 2010, 06:35:26 AM
Pretty sure Matt T picked a pic where hes not hitting the pose fully. Before I flame the shit outta him tho, I could be wrong. Im just to lazy to go check.
Title: Re: Rolley's Back
Post by: mozza on March 13, 2010, 04:18:12 PM
One can obviosuly see he's not fully posed yet(Matt should know this since he's a competitor). also he doesnt pose well enough to show off his back properly....
Title: Re: Rolley's Back
Post by: EL Mariachi on March 13, 2010, 04:32:50 PM
when did the hate start on roelly, what triggered it in matt tshinkourangutang's case?
Title: Re: Rolley's Back
Post by: Parker on March 13, 2010, 04:40:29 PM
when did the hate start on roelly, what triggered it in matt tshinkourangutang's case?
Matt has the common Hate on Other Black Men Disease, it's common amongst black folk...he sees in him how easily he became a pro, and is doing damage, yet Matt must put in work...
Sure Roelly has some weaknesses, But Roelly himself said that Dex told him he was going to win the Arnold Amatuer Pro qaulifier...so there must ve something that Dex saw in him. Dude has it, you can't deny it, and there are no supps companies or magazines hyping him up.
Title: Re: Australia Pro: Rolley's Back
Post by: mantronik on March 13, 2010, 05:18:21 PM
MattT IS hating on this guy indeed, can't even get his name straight.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=323888.msg4595004#msg4595004

I think it's jealousy as well. Roelly trains a few years and can stand with the best in the world without looking out of line. While Matt is still figuring out where Dubai, India is.

The fact that he asks of a guy who's only training for a few years and just in his 2nd pro show qualified for the O after making a great pro debut in a stack field at the Arnold, says enough about how much Matt looks up to "Rolley".

MattT, why don't you respond to the back latspread that affeman posted from Roelly?
Clearly the mass is there and there is more space with that low insertion point to expand.

For someone with a "weak" back Per Bernal seems to be pretty interested to take quite a few shots...
Title: Re: Australia Pro: Rolley's Back
Post by: mantronik on March 13, 2010, 05:49:47 PM
Here some more in relaxed and flexed position.
Feel free to add yours to the mix MassT
Title: Re: Rolley's Back
Post by: Stavios on March 13, 2010, 06:04:40 PM
I don't know why Stavios is hypen the shit out of this dude ::)

yeah hyping the shit about this dude = 1 thread with precontest pictures  ::)
Title: Re: Rolley's Back
Post by: Parker on March 13, 2010, 06:19:03 PM
yeah hyping the shit about this dude = 1 thread with precontest pictures  ::)
MattT has some explaining to do.
Title: Re: Australia Pro: Rolley's Back
Post by: Armstrong on March 13, 2010, 07:10:20 PM
Can he become Mr O with a back like this?
discuss..
(http://www.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/IMG_%20109.jpg)

Is that his FULL lat spread or just a bid pic?
Title: Re: Australia Pro: Rolley's Back
Post by: Shockwave on March 13, 2010, 07:29:40 PM
Is that his FULL lat spread or just a bid pic?
I dunno... it could go either way... this is why pics suck.
If it is, he's Shawn Ray narrow.. However judging from the width on his precontest pics I dont think he's fully spread yet.
Title: Re: Australia Pro: Rolley's Back
Post by: Shockwave on March 13, 2010, 07:30:35 PM
I dunno... it could go either way... this is why pics suck.
If it is, he's Shawn Ray narrow.. However judging from the width on his precontest pics I dont think he's fully spread yet.
Ok, someone HAS to come up with a good joke out of that one.
Title: Re: Australia Pro: Rolley's Back
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 13, 2010, 07:33:19 PM
Can he become Mr O with a back like this?
discuss..
(http://www.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/IMG_%20109.jpg)

No, he's over rated, flash in the pan. Big arms, big chest, big shoulders, no detail in his lower half and weak back.
Title: Re: Rolley's Back
Post by: BIG DUB on March 13, 2010, 08:00:59 PM
Hard to believe that's the same guy.

(http://www.team-andro.com/coppermine/albums/wettkampf/Winklaar%20210210/Wesel210210_%2822%29.JPG)


You can see from the elbow position that he "over pulled" the lat spread in the contest pic. In this one he flares his back "out and across"..
Title: Re: Australia Pro: Rolley's Back
Post by: Hellenic on March 13, 2010, 08:06:04 PM
This is the back that should have been 3rd..

Title: Re: Rolley's Back
Post by: MattT on March 13, 2010, 08:45:36 PM
yeah hyping the shit about this dude = 1 thread with precontest pictures  ::)


You said he would own at the Arnold, when i saw that, i thought you had been smokin crack in order to say something like that, yeh he owned 7th place alright!
Title: Re: Australia Pro: Rolley's Back
Post by: MattT on March 13, 2010, 08:50:19 PM
Nope that's his full back lat spread on stage MD has the same pic, don't make excuses for the dude, if he has a weak back he has a weak back. We just know that he will never become mr o with a weak back, every mr o winner had a awesome back.
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/Aust-237.jpg)
Title: Re: Australia Pro: Rolley's Back
Post by: Parker on March 13, 2010, 10:33:59 PM
Nope that's his full back lat spread on stage MD has the same pic, don't make excuses for the dude, if he has a weak back he has a weak back. We just know that he will never become mr o with a weak back, every mr o winner had a awesome back.
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/Aust-237.jpg)

Dude you know that dude is getting ready to hit a full lat spread. Because in the other pics, it is fully out. And you can see that his forearms are angled downward at the waist, whereas in the fully spread lat pose his forearm angle up above the waist. You need to stop playa hatin Matt, it's not a good look. He may never be Mr. O, but he will be a top 6 or top 5 guy sooner later, more sooner than later. Once he gets his back thicker and more detailed and a thicker chest...watch out.
Title: Re: Rolley's Back
Post by: crownshep on March 14, 2010, 05:43:45 AM

You can see from the elbow position that he "over pulled" the lat spread in the contest pic. In this one he flares his back "out and across"..

Exactly,all this is,is a question of not knowing how to "feel" a pose right,its two different things to hit a pose in the gym and have someone there to tell you to move your hands slightly,pull the elbows back a little,and then tell you you to hold that position while they take a pic.And then trying to recreate that pose onstage all alone.Roelly just needs to spend a lot more time hitting poses to find the right position on each shot.Actually this applies to most of the pro`s today,none of them seem to know how to hit each pose to its best effect.
Title: Re: Australia Pro: Rolley's Back
Post by: mantronik on March 14, 2010, 06:09:56 AM
if he has a weak back he has a weak back.

SHOWING a weak back, because of not knowing how to pose it (yet) is something different than HAVING a weak back.
Read what crownshep said above here, I agree with him.

From the 4 pics I posted and the posted pic of his latspread in the gym, you really call his back a weak back?
It's not a Coleman, Yates or Haney back but it CERTAINLY is NOT a weak back.

Why don't you take some of that thickness out of that head of yours and add it to your legs?

Sidenote: The back pics posted of Mike Kefalianos are phenomenal!!  :o
Best back of that night (Kai and Dex included)
Title: Re: Rolley's Back
Post by: Stavios on March 14, 2010, 10:07:50 AM

You said he would own at the Arnold, when i saw that, i thought you had been smokin crack in order to say something like that, yeh he owned 7th place alright!
I meant that he would own for a pro debut, and he did own a lot of good guys!

his 7th place at the ASC would still place top 10 at the O.
at his PRO DEBUT.

seems like you are jealous of the guy  :o
Title: Re: Rolley's Back
Post by: spinnis on March 14, 2010, 10:08:49 AM
I meant that he would own for a pro debut, and he did own a lot of good guys!

his 7th place at the ASC would still place top 10 at the O.
at his PRO DEBUT.

seems like you are jealous of the guy  :o

he did Amazingly good.
Title: Re: Australia Pro: Rolley's Back
Post by: no one on March 14, 2010, 10:18:08 AM

matt t- angry homo.

maybe he's upset rolley has a better physique than will harris?
Title: Re: Australia Pro: Rolley's Back
Post by: affeman on March 14, 2010, 10:31:41 AM
This is the back that should have been 3rd..



Respect to that guy, gained a ton of size and always comes in shredded.
Title: Re: Australia Pro: Rolley's Back
Post by: affeman on March 14, 2010, 10:34:13 AM
Respect to that guy, gained a ton of size and always comes in shredded.

This guy can hang with Phil Heath from the rear. ;)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=324175.0;attach=363040;image) (http://contests.flexonline.com/images/contests/large/7905.jpg)
Title: Re: Australia Pro: Rolley's Back
Post by: kyomu on March 14, 2010, 10:47:35 AM
This is the back that should have been 3rd..


Agreed
Title: Re: Australia Pro: Rolley's Back
Post by: Meso_z on March 14, 2010, 10:50:33 AM
Here some more in relaxed and flexed position.
Feel free to add yours to the mix MassT

here we go again.. ::)

hey tool, why dont you post pics of your hero standing next to other competitors?
Title: Re: Australia Pro: Rolley's Back
Post by: Stavios on March 14, 2010, 10:58:38 AM
for a rookie to look like that, is an amazing feat in itself

fuck the hataz !
Title: Re: Australia Pro: Rolley's Back
Post by: clued-up on March 14, 2010, 10:59:53 AM
(http://www.team-andro.com/coppermine/albums/wettkampf/Winklaar%20210210/Wesel210210_%2822%29.JPG)

awesome back...
Title: Re: Rolley's Back
Post by: clued-up on March 14, 2010, 11:02:00 AM
Yet, Branch's is worse

Branch is white, he‘s lucky to be up onstage at all.
Title: Re: Australia Pro: Rolley's Back
Post by: mantronik on March 14, 2010, 11:13:57 AM
hey tool, why dont you post pics of your hero standing next to other competitors?

Hey fuckface, since when am I your secretary? Enough pics online to show you that his posing from the back isn't all that and that he can use more mass on his back still, but to say that his back is weak is to be discussed with the pics I posted.
Title: Re: Australia Pro: Rolley's Back
Post by: Shockwave on March 14, 2010, 11:20:05 AM
for a rookie to look like that, is an amazing feat in itself

fuck the hataz !
You can tell from the front double bi that he either wasnt finished posing, or hit it wrong in the Lat Spread pic. There is no way his back is that narrow based on that front pic.
Title: Re: Australia Pro: Rolley's Back
Post by: Meso_z on March 14, 2010, 11:49:11 AM
(http://www.team-andro.com/coppermine/albums/wettkampf/Winklaar%20210210/Wesel210210_%2822%29.JPG)

awesome back...

indeed, when standing alone in an empty room.

(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/Aust-237.jpg)
Title: Re: Australia Pro: Rolley's Back
Post by: ironneck on March 14, 2010, 11:53:46 AM
what's up mezo?
don't you think he's one of the best?
Title: Re: Australia Pro: Rolley's Back
Post by: StuartR on March 14, 2010, 11:54:21 AM
indeed, when standing alone in an empty room.

(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/Aust-237.jpg)

he's standing "alone" in that picture too, you can't honestly think that's the same pose
Title: Re: Australia Pro: Rolley's Back
Post by: crownshep on March 14, 2010, 12:11:37 PM
Thats the whole point,he`s not "stood alone",he`s got a photographer telling him to move his hands up or down into the right position,telling him to pull his elbows forward or backwards until he hits it just right,then tells him to hold it while he takes the pic.Onstage is a different matter,then you really are stood alone.In the 70s and 80s we would spend an hour after training practising posing in the mirror so that we knew the right "feel" and position of each pose,and obviously the rear lat spread and rear double biceps are the hardest because you can`t see them.The pro`s today don`t seem to spend any time practising.You see them hit a double biceps and the elbows are held too high up,the leg position is all wrong,and its just a few basics that they don`t bother to learn,that could make them look a lot better.
Title: Re: Australia Pro: Rolley's Back
Post by: StuartR on March 14, 2010, 12:28:45 PM
Thats the whole point,he`s not "stood alone",he`s got a photographer telling him to move his hands up or down into the right position,telling him to pull his elbows forward or backwards until he hits it just right,then tells him to hold it while he takes the pic.Onstage is a different matter,then you really are stood alone.In the 70s and 80s we would spend an hour after training practising posing in the mirror so that we knew the right "feel" and position of each pose,and obviously the rear lat spread and rear double biceps are the hardest because you can`t see them.The pro`s today don`t seem to spend any time practising.You see them hit a double biceps and the elbows are held too high up,the leg position is all wrong,and its just a few basics that they don`t bother to learn,that could make them look a lot better.

yeah, im not disputing that he's posing poorly in the on stage picture. The whole premise of my post is that he was posing differently in the two pictures.