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Title: Idea for Chick
Post by: littleguns on March 14, 2010, 11:46:43 AM
Chick, seems like in todays marketplace many Pro's still live paycheck to paycheck...

If there isn't already one, how about IFBB retaining a financial planner and having seminars with the Pros about planning for that rainy day???
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: MadeYaMelt on March 14, 2010, 11:50:17 AM
All the g4p money, schmoe sponsorships, and steroid deals result in under-the-table cash.  The wouldn't wanna get in trouble with Uncle Sam would they? 
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: Wingnut32 on March 14, 2010, 01:47:20 PM
Are you kidding?  Chick doesn't give a crap about any of the other bodybuilders.
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: Chick on March 14, 2010, 02:17:41 PM
Chick, seems like in todays marketplace many Pro's still live paycheck to paycheck...

If there isn't already one, how about IFBB retaining a financial planner and having seminars with the Pros about planning for that rainy day???

By what basis do you believe this?
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: roc on March 14, 2010, 02:39:10 PM
The "pros" should already have a financial advisor. That responsibility should not fall on the athletes rep. whant one does with his or her cash is a individual thing. IM sure if an individual was intrested in saving and investing his or her own money a financial advisor is not hard to find.
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: LITTLE JOHN on March 14, 2010, 03:06:11 PM
Give bob his dues it would be very hard to tell guys who get very little money competing how to save.Just think you have just spent 20k on drugs and you place top 3 at the australian pro and you are down 15k right off the bat.
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: io856 on March 14, 2010, 03:07:45 PM
Give bob his dues it would be very hard to tell guys who get very little money competing how to save.Just think you have just spent 20k on drugs and you place top 3 at the australian pro and you are down 15k right off the bat.
the 20k would have already have been spent... if thats what they were spending anyway ::)

Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: LITTLE JOHN on March 14, 2010, 03:21:51 PM
My point is why would anybody spend 20k to lose 19k do the math and someone here is saying bob should help them well here is an idea don't spend so much on drugs for a sport that doesn't pay well.Now that was hard to work out wasn't it.
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: io856 on March 14, 2010, 03:24:54 PM
My point is why would anybody spend 20k to lose 19k do the math and someone here is saying bob should help them well here is an idea don't spend so much on drugs for a sport that doesn't pay well.Now that was hard to work out wasn't it.
By that logic why would anybody spend on anything that doesn't result in equivalent/greater monetary gain. Obviously living in an age of consumerism people do every day to excess...
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: Chick on March 14, 2010, 03:26:42 PM
I've personally helped many pro's with advices when asked...I assume others ahve their own people advising them, or have tax people they work with, parents, etc...

most of the time, it's making TOO much money thats the juggling act with taxes...guys not making much from the sport have less to deal with
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: Chick on March 14, 2010, 03:27:52 PM
Give bob his dues it would be very hard to tell guys who get very little money competing how to save.Just think you have just spent 20k on drugs and you place top 3 at the australian pro and you are down 15k right off the bat.

LOL.where are you coming up with that number?
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: LITTLE JOHN on March 14, 2010, 03:31:27 PM
4 iu of growth every few hours adds up pretty quick not to mention all the other drugs.Even eating 20 egg whites a day can get expensive.
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: io856 on March 14, 2010, 03:33:32 PM
4 iu of growth every few hours adds up pretty quick not to mention all the other drugs.Even eating 20 egg whites a day can get expensive.
Whats your point?
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: Chick on March 14, 2010, 03:35:58 PM
4 iu of growth every few hours adds up pretty quick not to mention all the other drugs.Even eating 20 egg whites a day can get expensive.

Uhhhh..yeah. Do you really believe the pros use 4 IU of GH every few hours??
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: pugalist666 on March 14, 2010, 03:42:56 PM
Uhhhh..yeah. Do you really believe the pros use 4 IU of GH every few hours??
how much do you use ?
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 14, 2010, 03:43:48 PM
Uhhhh..yeah. Do you really believe the pros use 4 IU of GH every few hours??
well Bobby ... to get 20-25 ius daily do you preffer splitting them 12 and 12 ?  :D ::)
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: jtsunami on March 14, 2010, 03:46:41 PM
I've personally helped many pro's with advices when asked...I assume others ahve their own people advising them, or have tax people they work with, parents, etc...

most of the time, it's making TOO much money thats the juggling act with taxes...guys not making much from the sport have less to deal with

lol Bob blabbing so much he misspelled have !!
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: Chick on March 14, 2010, 03:48:59 PM
well Bobby ... to get 20-25 ius daily do you preffer splitting them 12 and 12 ?  :D ::)

LOLOLOL....you're in fantasy land.

Here is a nice analogy for you...fill up a glass of water. Now keep pouring...does it get MORE full? No...just wasted water spilling all over the place ann making a big mess.

If anyone is stupid enough to be taking that much, they might as well flush their money down the toilet...

Dont believe everything you hear, kid...
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 14, 2010, 03:50:24 PM
Chick, seems like in todays marketplace many Pro's still live paycheck to paycheck...

If there isn't already one, how about IFBB retaining a financial planner and having seminars with the Pros about planning for that rainy day???

I'm working on that.   Still under construction
http://muscleceo.com/

Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: LITTLE JOHN on March 14, 2010, 03:51:26 PM
So you want all of us here to believe that pros use very little of anything so that they don't spill over.I guess you have not seen the thread about IFBB pros off drugs? wow man you really do think most here are stupid.
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: pugalist666 on March 14, 2010, 03:51:37 PM
how much do you use ?
stop avoiding the question , if nasser has the balls to tell the truth why you gotta be such a flake ? 
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: Chick on March 14, 2010, 03:52:46 PM
stop avoiding the question , if nasser has the balls to tell the truth why you gotta be such a flake ? 

I dont use any...should... but I'm too lazy to get on any HRT inspired dose
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: roc on March 14, 2010, 03:53:01 PM
20 to 25iu's, come on dude. someone selling u bro. dont belive it
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: LITTLE JOHN on March 14, 2010, 03:54:34 PM
I didn't know GH was a scripted drug for over 40s. I thought it was for midgets.
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: pugalist666 on March 14, 2010, 03:55:36 PM
I dont use any...should... but I'm too lazy to get on any HRT inspired dose
how do you go about getting hrt when you dont really need it , how do you break the ice with your doc to hook you up
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: Chick on March 14, 2010, 03:57:27 PM
So you want all of us here to believe that pros use very little of anything so that they don't spill over.I guess you have not seen the thread about IFBB pros off drugs? wow man you really do think most here are stupid.

Most aren't stupid..just ill-informed or naive.

Pro's (for the most part) have the one thing (other than the norm of drive, determination, etc) thats separates them from the pack....genetics. Genetics includes response to gear...you'll notice almost all pro's look pretty damn good at an early age, BEFORE the took anything...response to gear, response to training.


I know many more amateurs that took boatloads of drugs, who never made it past the novice/ local level, despite having access to all the same...
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: Chick on March 14, 2010, 03:58:52 PM
how do you go about getting hrt when you dont really need it , how do you break the ice with your doc to hook you up

I'm 44...no need for games. No way on this earth my test levels are that of when I was in my 20's (or anyone else for that matter)...there are thousands of Rejuvination Clinics all over...
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: LITTLE JOHN on March 14, 2010, 04:02:06 PM
All good points bob I to have known guys using 3grams a week and could not win a novice show these guys are just plain tards but lets not lose the point of way too much GH being used at a high cost and when in some shows guys get like 10k a win give me a break it has to be at a loss.
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: Chick on March 14, 2010, 04:10:25 PM
All good points bob I to have known guys using 3grams a week and could not win a novice show these guys are just plain tards but lets not lose the point of way too much GH being used at a high cost and when in some shows guys get like 10k a win give me a break it has to be at a loss.

Back in the 90's GH was used more than it is today...experimentation led to the "more is better" practice. It was quickly found (at least by those with a brain) that much like Anabolics, not only was more not better, but more often counterproductive and gave what we call "diminishing returns"...

Aside from that, anyone who competed in the PHX and/ or ASC needed nothing more to compete in AUS...
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: LITTLE JOHN on March 14, 2010, 04:23:01 PM
Another good point I guess the australian show is just a passing cash thought and an easy pass to the Olympia for a 4th or 5th place getter.
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: Skeletor on March 14, 2010, 04:29:50 PM
I'm working on that.   Still under construction
http://muscleceo.com/



Wow sounds amazing!
Tells us more about your new business venture Vince!
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: pugalist666 on March 14, 2010, 04:31:19 PM
I'm 44...no need for games. No way on this earth my test levels are that of when I was in my 20's (or anyone else for that matter)...there are thousands of Rejuvination Clinics all over...
got any tips for the "game playing " department ?
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: MadeYaMelt on March 14, 2010, 04:38:10 PM
Bob, what is your explanation for these huge guts we see nowadays then?  Insulin abuse?   
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: Chick on March 14, 2010, 04:53:10 PM
Bob, what is your explanation for these huge guts we see nowadays then?  Insulin abuse?   

Insulin, food intake, the ability to take in the same amount of calories while cutting down for a show...carbing up regimines...
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: LITTLE JOHN on March 14, 2010, 05:00:16 PM
Insulin has a lot to answer for and to think little timmy belknap started the whole insulin thing in BB.
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: jtsunami on March 14, 2010, 05:05:04 PM
Most aren't stupid..just ill-informed or naive.

Pro's (for the most part) have the one thing (other than the norm of drive, determination, etc) thats separates them from the pack....genetics. Genetics includes response to gear...you'll notice almost all pro's look pretty damn good at an early age, BEFORE the took anything...response to gear, response to training.


I know many more amateurs that took boatloads of drugs, who never made it past the novice/ local level, despite having access to all the same...

hahah chick misspelling everything tonight, he must be furious bashing his keyboard answering these questions.  Bad punctuation, total misspelling of words, that keyboard is in for a world of hurt!

Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: Chick on March 14, 2010, 05:09:14 PM
hahah chick misspelling everything tonight, he must be furious bashing his keyboard answering these questions.  Bad punctuation, total misspelling of words, that keyboard is in for a world of hurt!



I'm sorry, I type fast an have big hands, and don't give a shit most of the time to even use the spell check.....were you not able to understand what I wrote because of the gross negligence on my part and massive errors?
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: LITTLE JOHN on March 14, 2010, 05:14:58 PM
Most here wouldn't even know tim belknap or why he used insulin.
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 14, 2010, 05:34:19 PM
Wow sounds amazing!
Tells us more about your new business venture Vince!


Its designed to help bodybuilders and fitness athletes make money, get insurance, get legal help, etc.    The only thing I need is a logo design change and some writers and I'll be in business.  After I complete the base site, it will be transfered over to a server to handle the forum traffic.  

I did complete my new personal site at www.melvingoodrum.com.  All websites I do from now on will be built using a content management system such as Wordpress and Joomla.  This allows me to now post my twitter updates and youtube videos that I'll be making soon along with articles on nutrition and training


Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: jtsunami on March 14, 2010, 05:36:26 PM
I'm sorry, I type fast an have big hands, and don't give a shit most of the time to even use the spell check.....were you not able to understand what I wrote because of the gross negligence on my part and massive errors?

i'm sorry chick i was just busting your balls
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: LITTLE JOHN on March 14, 2010, 05:42:30 PM
chick doesn't look like he has ever used many drugs.
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: io856 on March 14, 2010, 10:04:14 PM
Most here wouldn't even know tim belknap or why he used insulin.
He was an insulin-dependent bodybuilder from the 80s.
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: MadeYaMelt on March 14, 2010, 10:35:21 PM
chick doesn't look like he has ever used many drugs.

Honestly, I doubt he came anywhere near many of the insane amounts of today's pros.  Here is a pic of him properly executing a front double bi.  How many guys can do this today with their alien-stomachs? 

(http://www.dutchbodybuilding.com/gallery/data/563/Bob_Cicherillo.jpg)
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: jwb on March 15, 2010, 03:49:11 AM
Honestly, I doubt he came anywhere near many of the insane amounts of today's pros.  Here is a pic of him properly executing a front double bi.  How many guys can do this today with their alien-stomachs? 

(http://www.dutchbodybuilding.com/gallery/data/563/Bob_Cicherillo.jpg)
chick always did that pose really well.

Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: jtsunami on March 15, 2010, 05:08:54 PM
chick doesn't look like he has ever used many drugs.

x2 probably could have turned pro without them
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: slate on March 15, 2010, 06:06:49 PM
guys

what is the point of all this shit about drug use and bb? This sport is already unfairly under attack by senate bigots and u keep giving them more ammo . No need to talk about stuff that is not even really important for results. Itīs the genetics. some guys have it others don't. Guys that win pro shows Arnoldo class, Olympia have it --other guys don't, end of story

no matter his classifications, you don't see bob complaining about the genetic lottery do you? so why put ourselfes up as a target like this.

Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: LITTLE JOHN on March 15, 2010, 06:11:13 PM
I didn't know the IOC were thinking of adding BB to the Olympics.Sorry for all this drug talk.
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: che on March 15, 2010, 06:12:50 PM

 I did complete my new personal site at www.melvingoodrum.com. 

I can't find the gallery Vince .
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 15, 2010, 06:16:17 PM
I can't find the gallery Vince .

I'm setting up a Flicker account for that to cut down on bandwidth.
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: che on March 15, 2010, 06:44:46 PM
I'm setting up a Flicker account for that to cut down on bandwidth.
Awesome ,good luck with your business Vince.
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: slate on March 15, 2010, 07:00:31 PM
I'm setting up a Flicker account for that to cut down on bandwidth.
vince may be not be white but is not stupid either. guy is always looking for the new angles. I heard has been funding an internet mobile adds start up which may be close to being snapped up by google.

the other vince (Basile) may be able to tells us more as he is co-founder (no pedo)
Title: Re: Idea for Chick
Post by: littleguns on March 17, 2010, 07:28:48 AM
By what basis do you believe this?

A Few Names,

Vince Taylor - was very successful back in the day and both you and he have said he is in bad shape

Melvin Anthony has stated on PBW, not in good shape financially

Nasser has to sell clothes on his site/ebay

I am sure there are a more out there.

It's a problem across all sports/athletes....so many live in the now and don't prepare for the future....