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Title: Deadlifts
Post by: calfzilla on March 15, 2010, 01:15:45 AM
So are deadlifts for back or legs?   ???
Title: Re: Deadlifts
Post by: Tapeworm on March 15, 2010, 01:19:16 AM
Do 30 sets of 30 and let us know where you get sore.
Title: Re: Deadlifts
Post by: Lion666 on March 15, 2010, 01:36:40 AM
Do 30 sets of 30 and let us know where you get sore.
;D

vince gironda and many "ol timers" used to do that, pick a move,, massive # of sets and reps, record where it got them sore and passed that info down through "the ages"

nowadays people just go by what they learn in book/class/net/tv/etc.  ::)
Title: Re: Deadlifts
Post by: Tre on March 15, 2010, 02:27:16 AM
So are deadlifts for back or legs?   ???

Back for me, but not gonna get the big lifts without legs. 
Title: Re: Deadlifts
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on March 15, 2010, 03:42:03 AM
So are deadlifts for back or legs?   ???

is this a serious question??.. but yes when you go very heavy your legs too may sore a little bit!..
Title: Re: Deadlifts
Post by: dave19 on March 15, 2010, 03:42:32 AM
Lower back & hamstrings .. + quads , forearms , glutes , traps

I usually do it on leg day .. or deadlift day ;)
Title: Re: Deadlifts
Post by: Meso_z on March 15, 2010, 03:51:00 AM
So are deadlifts for back or legs?   ???

start them from the rack for back..

as for legs, try to straighten your legs and go all thw way down with extreme caution to work the hams.
Title: Re: Deadlifts
Post by: SaltShaker on March 15, 2010, 03:56:40 AM
So are deadlifts for back or legs?   ???
honestly, for pretty much everything.

back, legs, abs, to lesses degree chest, bis, tris...
Title: Re: Deadlifts
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on March 15, 2010, 03:59:17 AM
is this a serious question??.. but yes when you go very heavy your legs too may sore a little bit!..

sure i was talking here about normal deadlifts but stiff leg DL is mainly for hams and also works the lower back and some other back muscles in a secondary way!!..
Title: Re: Deadlifts
Post by: Jwever87 on March 15, 2010, 04:16:38 AM
Deadlifts hit the whole posterior chain, from calves to traps and the bi's, forearms and the shoulders

Best Overall body exersice

Title: Re: Deadlifts
Post by: Pecs on March 15, 2010, 10:36:45 AM
Deadlifts hit the whole posterior chain, from calves to traps and the bi's, forearms and the shoulders

Best Overall body exersice



this
Title: Re: Deadlifts
Post by: SF1900 on March 15, 2010, 10:44:45 AM
I'm still trying to figure out whether dumbbell pullovers are for chest or lats. I know some people do them for chest and others do them for lats.

As for deadlifts, I always considered them a back movement.
Title: Re: Deadlifts
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 15, 2010, 11:04:24 AM
So are deadlifts for back or legs?   ???

All most everything.
Title: Re: Deadlifts
Post by: saopl on March 15, 2010, 11:11:52 AM
rack deadlift ftw
Title: Re: Deadlifts
Post by: tbombz on March 15, 2010, 11:24:16 AM
I'm still trying to figure out whether dumbbell pullovers are for chest or lats. I know some people do them for chest and others do them for lats.

As for deadlifts, I always considered them a back movement.
dumbell pullovers, any movement where the arms are pulled "backwards" will use the posterior muscles. like the above poster said, deadlifts work the entier "posterior chain"...all the muscles that pull the body backwards(although deads do use quads too, which although arent posterior are necessary for balance.)

the chest pulls the arms across the body..    the motion involved with any type of pullover movement... pulling the arms back behind the body..  will involve the posterior muscles of the torso.... the chest is not involved
Title: Re: Deadlifts
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 15, 2010, 11:36:11 AM
dumbell pullovers, any movement where the arms are pulled "backwards" will use the posterior muscles. like the above poster said, deadlifts work the entier "posterior chain"...all the muscles that pull the body backwards(although deads do use quads too, which although arent posterior are necessary for balance.)

the chest pulls the arms across the body..    the motion involved with any type of pullover movement... pulling the arms back behind the body..  will involve the posterior muscles of the torso.... the chest is not involved

Your chest isn't involved in a pullover?  ::)

I agree it's more of a back and serratus move but it hits your chest too...my chest flexes like a mother when I do them, they also hit your tris.

Kind of an upper body finisher IMO...you can do them with either bodypart
Title: Re: Deadlifts
Post by: SF1900 on March 15, 2010, 11:55:03 AM
I always felt pullovers more in my lats, but my chest definitely gets worked from doing them. I do get a pump in both areas, but more so my lats.
Title: Re: Deadlifts
Post by: Jadethegladiator on March 15, 2010, 12:04:06 PM
All most everything.

I agree with the coach...."abs" so f-ing lutely. ;D
Title: Re: Deadlifts
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on March 15, 2010, 12:17:42 PM
I'm still trying to figure out whether dumbbell pullovers are for chest or lats. I know some people do them for chest and others do them for lats.

As for deadlifts, I always considered them a back movement.

logically pullovers are for lats!!.. if you analyse the movement it's very similar to chin-ups!!..
Title: Re: Deadlifts
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on March 15, 2010, 12:21:42 PM
Your chest isn't involved in a pullover?  ::)

I agree it's more of a back and serratus move but it hits your chest too...my chest flexes like a mother when I do them, they also hit your tris.

Kind of an upper body finisher IMO...you can do them with either bodypart

i think it only pumps blood to your chest so it becomes full!!..

sure it hits tris because you cant keep your arms straight and have to bend it slightly especially with heavy sets and this must postion must involve triceps..
Title: Re: Deadlifts
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on March 15, 2010, 12:22:45 PM
I always felt pullovers more in my lats, but my chest definitely gets worked from doing them. I do get a pump in both areas, but more so my lats.

being pumped is something and being trained is another thing!..
Title: Re: Deadlifts
Post by: SF1900 on March 15, 2010, 12:26:03 PM
logically pullovers are for lats!!.. if you analyse the movement it's very similar to chin-ups!!..

Well yeah, the movement is definitely much more akin to a lat movement, as opposed to a chest.

Title: Re: Deadlifts
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on March 15, 2010, 12:31:36 PM
Well yeah, the movement is definitely much more akin to a lat movement, as opposed to a chest.



yes, you cant find an exercise that trains bis and tris at the same time, the same with back and chest!!.. i also dont agree that leg press and squats involve hams!!..
Title: Re: Deadlifts
Post by: tbombz on March 15, 2010, 12:43:16 PM
the chest is opposite the back. when you work the opposite muscle the opposing muscle gets stretched. workign the lats stretches the pecs.  :)
Title: Re: Deadlifts
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on March 15, 2010, 04:45:14 PM
yes, you cant find an exercise that trains bis and tris at the same time, the same with back and chest!!.. i also dont agree that leg press and squats involve hams!!..

Chinups train back, chest, biceps and triceps, and I have felt all those muscles working.
Title: Re: Deadlifts
Post by: benchmstr on March 15, 2010, 04:50:26 PM
everything....but for me, mostly hams, and traps..........

bench
Title: Re: Deadlifts
Post by: Ursus on March 15, 2010, 06:28:41 PM
I do them on leg day after squats.

Well its kinda a posterier chain day.
Title: Re: Deadlifts
Post by: IrishMuscle84 on March 15, 2010, 06:51:24 PM
Ive ALWAYS done them on Back day. I always try and do straight/stiff legged deads BUT always bend my knees a little, soo your pretty much also working your legs a little too.
Title: Re: Deadlifts
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 15, 2010, 06:53:39 PM
So are deadlifts for back or legs?   ???

Depends on the type of deadlift.  I do standard deadlifts for legs and Romanian deadlifts for the lower back. 
Title: Re: Deadlifts
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on March 15, 2010, 07:07:05 PM
Also depends on where you are weak and strong.
Title: Re: Deadlifts
Post by: GroinkTropin on March 15, 2010, 10:49:37 PM
Deadlifts and pullovers are for back. Specifically, db pullovers are GREAT as a warmup when working lats. They are the equivalent of flyes for pecs. Allows you to pump your lats and pre exhaust a little at the same time. Deadlifts on the other hand, if you do them properly, work your entire back majorly and the rest of your body to a lesser extent. Proper form is a must as is doing them from the GROUND like a MAN not off a fucking rack like jay cutler.
Title: Re: Deadlifts
Post by: WillGrant on March 16, 2010, 01:49:23 AM
Deadlifts hit the whole posterior chain, from calves to traps and the bi's, forearms and the shoulders

Best Overall body exersice


x2
Title: Re: Deadlifts
Post by: claymore on March 16, 2010, 06:04:31 AM
Deadlifts hit the whole posterior chain, from calves to traps and the bi's, forearms and the shoulders

Best Overall body exersice



Agreed