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How come diet soda is nasty but coke zero and diet pepsi max is good? ???
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cause diet soda has goat urine in it
duhhh
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How come diet soda is nasty but coke zero and diet pepsi max is good? ???
Both will add fat.
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diet soda is poison , if you drink it u are idiot
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:o
Ok thanks, after this litre is gone I will stop drinking it, it's just an occasional thing anyway...goat urine hmm.
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...goat urine hmm.
why do u think mike metzer ws addicted to it? >:(
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Both will add fat.
How do you figure a drink with zero calories, zero sugar, a tiny bit of sodium, and some artificial flavors, colors, sweeteners will make you gain fat? Retain some water sure, but fat?
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How do you figure a drink with zero calories, zero sugar, a tiny bit of sodium, and some artificial flavors, colors, sweeteners will make you gain fat? Retain some water sure, but fat?
the theory being that since the brain equates sweetness with calories...when you consume something sweet with no calories, your body will make up the calories at some later time
hense..fat!
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the theory being that since the brain equates sweetness with calories...when you consume something sweet with no calories, your body will make up the calories at some later time
hense..fat!
Have you seen studies on this? I know some guys who drink something like Crystal Lite up to a week or so out from a competition. I couldn't survive without it...
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Have you seen studies on this?
nope...just a theory....if there have been studies i am unaware of them
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crystal light is good stuff. ;D
Honestly guys, I don't think drinking diet stuff is the worst for you, but yeah I think there is a possibility of your body sensing something sweet and producing a little insulin that may store some fat. Like anything drink it in moderation and if you are looking to get super lean just cut it out to be safe. Also it helps to learn to love water if you don't already.
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crystal light is good stuff. ;D
Honestly guys, I don't think drinking diet stuff is the worst for you, but yeah I think there is a possibility of your body sensing something sweet and producing a little insulin that may store some fat. Like anything drink it in moderation and if you are looking to get super lean just cut it out to be safe. Also it helps to learn to love water if you don't already.
try the koolaid single packs.....fucking great mang! now they even have little koolaid pills ya drop into a bottle and its fizzzes into koolaid!
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Sugar free kool-aid was better but for some reason, I haven't been able to find a grocery store that carries it for a while. The grape flavor also turned my shit odd colors. Jay Cutler never warned me. :-\
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Sugar free kool-aid was better but for some reason, I haven't been able to find a grocery store that carries it for a while. The grape flavor also turned my shit odd colors. Jay Cutler never warned me. :-\
THIS i researched a while back....now dont tell me i never helped ya none!
http://www.poopreport.com/Intellectual/Content/Dye/dye.html?from=980&comments_per_page=140
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try the koolaid single packs.....fucking great mang! now they even have little koolaid pills ya drop into a bottle and its fizzzes into koolaid!
I tried the Hawaiin punch ones you just pour in a water bottle, very good tasting.
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THIS i researched a while back....now dont tell me i never helped ya none!
http://www.poopreport.com/Intellectual/Content/Dye/dye.html?from=980&comments_per_page=140
Son of a... Alot of posters with probably scat fetishes on that site though :-X
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anyone who thinks a zero calorie drink has any potential to increase fat stores is overlooking the basic laws of physics..
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Son of a... Alot of posters with probably scat fetishes on that site though :-X
my interest ws purely scientific....i used to be addicted to grape gatorade...which also has the same dye in it :-\
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Coca Cola Zero - Sweetened with aspartame and acesulfame potassium., the reason this is different than Diet Coke is Coca Cola Zero is a sugar free version of the Classic Coke formulation.
In other words, this is meant to be a sugar free version of the red cans of Coke you know and may or may not love. It has a redder, deeper color close to the color of Classic Coke and tastes far less like a diet soda (by many accounts) than Diet Coke.
I love Coke Zero. Always have. I don't get fat off of it. I understand that for a person who consumes a shitload of sugar that the sweetness (although not sugar) may trick the body into thinking it has sugar and will signal the release of insulin to stabilize this "fake" sugar and cause all the responses that sugar would under normal circumstances. Too bad, so fucking sad.
this only happens in some folks, not all-- and usually not those heavily involved in the fitness industry. There are no calories for my body to store and it is not easily fooled. I can diet into the single digits on Coke Zero. I love it chilled and from a can. Gotta have one. Every day.
ASSSSSSSS per tame.... will prolly jack me up some day, but NOT today.
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the theory being that since the brain equates sweetness with calories...when you consume something sweet with no calories, your body will make up the calories at some later time
hense..fat!
FALSE
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anyone who thinks a zero calorie drink has any potential to increase fat stores is overlooking the basic laws of physics..
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/04/earlyshow/contributors/emilysenay/main2330142.shtml
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any one who thinks exchanging diet soda for regular soda will have any affect on there physic ,health or general well being is a retard
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did anyone know that mike metzer used to drink a glass of his own pee in the morning...
or at least that what Dan Duchaine told me in an e-mail eons ago
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/04/earlyshow/contributors/emilysenay/main2330142.shtml
That article is BS, its physically impossible to get fat from drinking sugar free / calorie free pop!!!!!!. There's nothing your body can take from the diet pop to store as fat!. My old trainer Vince pro bber told me to drink diet pop when i get cravings. Plus i know so many bbers that drink diet pop through their whole diet and get shredded. I drank diet pop all through my last diet, and all through this off season. Im the leanest iv ever been in the off season at 8%bf. Its like saying drinking water will making you fat if you believe that their sugar or fat in the water? ::). Only in American people would believe such nonsense ::)
YOU WILL NOT GET FAT FROM DRINKING DIET POP! SO GO AHEAD DRINK 12 CANS A DAY ITS FINE!!!!!!!
(http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs512.snc3/26866_368007432266_544417266_4294518_8358469_n.jpg)
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How come diet soda is nasty but coke zero and diet pepsi max is good? ???
all of them are nasty, even the regular ones ... because they are loaded with aspartame ( yip, regular too ) in order to shut down the pineal gland.
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That article is BS, its physically impossible to get fat from drinking sugar free / calorie free pop!!!!!!. There's nothing your body can take from the diet pop to store as fat!. My old trainer Vince pro bber told me to drink diet pop when i get cravings. Plus i know so many bbers that drink diet pop through their whole diet and get shredded. I drank diet pop all through my last diet, and all through this off season. Im the leanest iv ever been in the off season at 8%bf. Its like saying drinking water will making you fat if you believe that their sugar or fat in the water? ::). Only in American people would believe such nonsense ::)
YOU WILL NOT GET FAT FROM DRINKING DIET POP! SO GO AHEAD DRINK 12 CANS A DAY ITS FINE!!!!!!!
(http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs512.snc3/26866_368007432266_544417266_4294518_8358469_n.jpg)
I will have to agree...have always used diet drinks when cutting up, even when I competed. Don't read too much into it--sugar/calorie-free is sugar/calorie-free. 8)
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i drink 1.5litrer a day and im still going down in bf, 8 weeks out.
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I always laugh with the recycled "diet soda is evil" stuff. The only studies fed rats about a lb a day of aspartame, or some shit. Yeah, really valid in the real world.
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I usually dont drink diet soda, but at night if I want something sweet, drop a little crystal light in the water and its yummy
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I always laugh with the recycled "diet soda is evil" stuff. The only studies fed rats about a lb a day of aspartame, or some shit. Yeah, really valid in the real world.
Yea they fed them mofos tons of Saccharin how does that relate to humans, drinking a diet coke right now
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Soda is great after a night of drinking.
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Diet Coke is legendary! I've been sipping it for well over ten years. Although I don't think soda is anything to be consumed more than once or twice a day.
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nope...just a(n) theory hypothesis....if there have been studies i am unaware of them
Fixed.
A theory is/has been extensively tested and is generally accepted, while a hypothesis is a speculative guess that has yet to be tested. :)
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the theory being that since the brain equates sweetness with calories...when you consume something sweet with no calories, your body will make up the calories at some later time
hense..fat!
are you fucking retarded...
That is the dumbest thing i have ever read..
Because you think you are having something sweet, you get fat...
Broskie, there has to be a transference of energy. So there needs to be calories (energy) injested in order to convert and store as fat (dense energy)
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you know whjat the funny thing is?
people argue that the body releases insulin because it thinks something sugary is going to enter the body
and they think that this would cause a decrese in body composition
but they dont understand that if this was to actually happen, if your body would release insulin after drinking a calorie free beverage.... this would actually help IMPROVE body composition
insulin release woudl be a positive effect!!!
ever hear of the controversial application of humalog where it is taken without any carbs, at a very low dose..... it is used to lean people out... before cardio, or whenever.
if you have an increase in insulin, your body's blood glucose will drop below normal, because some of it will have been pushed into storeage- almost always as glycogen in muscle. as a result, you have fuller muscles, and an increase in fat burning hormones. (the fat burning hormone, like GH, are released to elevate blood glucose back to normal)
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I usually dont drink diet soda, but at night if I want something sweet, I drop a little crystal meth....
Say what?
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Say what?
haha quite cute dyslexic maybe about 25 years ago
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Crystal Light and Diet Pepsi are both great.
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you know whjat the funny thing is?
people argue that the body releases insulin because it thinks something sugary is going to enter the body
and they think that this would cause a decrese in body composition
but they dont understand that if this was to actually happen, if your body would release insulin after drinking a calorie free beverage.... this would actually help IMPROVE body composition
insulin release woudl be a positive effect!!!
ever hear of the controversial application of humalog where it is taken without any carbs, at a very low dose..... it is used to lean people out... before cardio, or whenever.
if you have an increase in insulin, your body's blood glucose will drop below normal, because some of it will have been pushed into storeage- almost always as glycogen in muscle. as a result, you have fuller muscles, and an increase in fat burning hormones. (the fat burning hormone, like GH, are released to elevate blood glucose back to normal)
No tbombz, you're making this a blanket statement, insulin release in most cases with the average person who is trying to drop weight is not good.
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if you have an increase in insulin, your body's blood glucose will drop below normal, because some of it will have been pushed into storeage- almost always as glycogen in muscle. as a result, you have fuller muscles, and an increase in fat burning hormones. (the fat burning hormone, like GH, are released to elevate blood glucose back to normal)
Only for a shot time after you have depleted the glycogen through intense exercise.
Otherwise it's into triglycerides & transported through the bloodstream (where some can be oxidized & deposited as fatty plaques) to be stored as body fat.
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I'd rather risk cancer in 50 years than be a fat slob my whole life
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are you fucking retarded...
That is the dumbest thing i have ever read..
Because you think you are having something sweet, you get fat...
Broskie, there has to be a transference of energy. So there needs to be calories (energy) injested in order to convert and store as fat (dense energy)
no what i said shit for brains is that your body tries to make up for calories that it considers shoulda been associated with said sweetness...try n keep up...do you TRY and epitomize the dumbfuck with big muscles cliche? :-\
besides...i didn't make the theory up ...just relaying it...now go play in traffic
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I love diet pop and drink tons of it. I've drank it while cutting up for shows and was down to 4-5% BF. Didn't hurt me
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a lot of animosity going around for a friday . . .
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Coke Zero is the bomb
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a lot of animosity going around for a friday . . .
No shit, and I just wanted to enjoy a rare coke zero without messing up my diet. :-\
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No shit, and I just wanted to enjoy a rare coke zero without messing up my diet. :-\
you sure can. Seems lots of peeps on edge and I admit I'm one of them
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the theory being that since the brain equates sweetness with calories...when you consume something sweet with no calories, your body will make up the calories at some later time
hense..fat!
Well why don't we go buy a couple flats of diet cola and go save Africa? I was unaware that you could magically create calories just from the perception of sweetness! :o
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diet drinks are a god send
zero calories, great taste, fill your stomach :D
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diet drinks are a god send
zero calories, great taste, fill your stomach :D
And why do you suppose that is? I know you know the answer.
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Well why don't we go buy a couple flats of diet cola and go save Africa? I was unaware that you could magically create calories just from the perception of sweetness! :o
one last time...the theory goes (again...i didn't make this up..just heard it thru some iron agers eons ago)..the theory goes that if you drink a diet soda that is sweet...millions of years of evolution has adapted the brain and body to associate sweetness with calories. So when the body does not get those calories with the sweetness, it makes up for it later by making you hungrier and you end up eating more.
hense taking in the same calories that you saved yourself by drinking a diet soda, from other food
thats about as simply as i can put it
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sounds like weakness
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one last time...the theory goes (again...i didn't make this up..just heard it thru some iron agers eons ago)..the theory goes that if you drink a diet soda that is sweet...millions of years of evolution has adapted the brain and body to associate sweetness with calories. So when the body does not get those calories with the sweetness, it makes up for it later by making you hungrier and you end up eating more
hense taking in the same calories that you saved yourself by drinking a diet soda
thats about as simply as i can put it
Then instead of stating that you can magically create calories, just say it elevates hunger and can be a possible detriment to those who are dieting. :)
For the record, diet cola doesn't make me hungry, it actually creates satiety. Part of it has to do with the carbonation, the other contributing factor is the taste. After drinking any sort of cola, even if it's flat (yuck), I don't feel like eating. Even if I feel hungry, the carbonated beverage fills my stomach and I couldn't eat as much as I want to anyway. I love diet cola.
This thread's making me crave a Coke Zero and some Jack Daniels 8)
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I started a big debate on this a couple of years on how diet sodas can add fat and can be a big contributor to metabolic syndrome. Instead of me re-iterating the entire debate, just do a search for it. Can't remember if I was "The Coach" or "mr. Intenseone" then.
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Then instead of stating that you can magically create calories, just say it elevates hunger and can be a possible detriment to those who are dieting. :)
i said exactly that and quite succinctly in my previous posts in this thread :-\
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Soda, diet soda all garbage.
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i said exactly that and quite succinctly in my previous posts in this thread :-\
Yeah, well take it back. I was going to get a Nobel Peace prize. You bitches would have been proud. >:( ;D
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No tbombz, you're making this a blanket statement, insulin release in most cases with the average person who is trying to drop weight is not good.
insulin is a hormone-not a calorie, or source of energy.
insulin does not control or affect the "rate" of metabolism, insulin will never affect daily calorie totals..whether outgoing or ingoing.
thus, insulin can never be the cause of fat gain, because fat can can only be caused by energy excess. insulin contributes no energy.
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insulin is a hormone-not a calorie, or source of energy.
insulin does not control or affect the "rate" of metabolism, insulin will never affect daily calorie totals..whether outgoing or ingoing.
thus, insulin can never be the cause of fat gain, because fat can can only be caused by energy excess. insulin contributes no energy.
Basic stuff, we know that. Find the debate then you will learn something. You have much to learn young jedi.
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all diet drinks are crap filled with chemicals it will only make you gain more fat
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all diet drinks are crap filled with chemicals it will only make you gain more fat
and make you feel like shit , i guess thats why bodybuilders love it so much , any time you can stick some chemicals in your body that make you less healthy body builders will love that shit
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and make you feel like shit , i guess thats why bodybuilders love it so much , any time you can stick some chemicals in your body that make you less healthy body builders will love that shit
This is genius. You should write blogs so people can really get more insight into your amazing thoughts. Share the intellectual wealth sir.
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This is genius. You should write blogs so people can really get more insight into your amazing thoughts. Share the intellectual wealth sir.
you forgot to add this " ::)"
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you forgot to add this " ::)"
I didn't feel I was serious enough to add emoticons. 卐
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Basic stuff, we know that. Find the debate then you will learn something. You have much to learn young jedi.
heres the same debate years ago, and me owning your bitchass exactly the same way... and you responding exactly the same way... too stupid to have more than one kind of response in your repertoire?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=210860.msg2919612#msg2919612
total bullshit
insulin is released in reponse to nutrients entering the bloodstream, NOT in response to sweetness ::)
LOL.....ok Candizzle.
Still got a lot to learn do ya?
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anyone who thinks a zero calorie drink has any potential to increase fat stores is overlooking the basic laws of physics..
Correct. BS bro-science.
Diet sodas will not and cannot add any fat. AFAIK, even a significant insulin response (which is irrelevant anyway) could never been proven.
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im drinking pepsi max now
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im drinking pepsi max now
me too yip yip 8)
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heres the same debate years ago, and me owning your bitchass exactly the same way... and you responding exactly the same way... too stupid to have more than one kind of response in your repertoire?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=210860.msg2919612#msg2919612
LOL.....where's the ownage? Tbombz, this is basic stuff, my position nor the medical communities position has changed...LOL..geez!
BTW, that wasn't the thread.
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:D
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I just don't see the big deal with having a few diet sodas per week
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the coach isn't known for his intelligence anyway
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I just don't see the big deal with having a few diet sodas cans of toxic chemical shit per week
;D ;D
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the coach isn't known for his intelligence anyway
Ok, suit yourself, I've proven this time and time again with backed up research. Again, this isn't some kind of medical revelation but you clowns can think what you want. Whatever.
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You are an idiot. In general, a theory is a time-tested, empirically-validated fact. Not only is what you're saying wrong, it's just plain retarded. You can't just make up some bullshit like this and call it a theory. If you replace regular soda with diet, you're going to reduce your calorie intake. Period. Do not post false information to confuse all the tiny twinks.
So many things wrong with what you said...
the theory being that since the brain equates sweetness with calories...when you consume something sweet with no calories, your body will make up the calories at some later time
hense..fat!
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I don't know about fat gain, but drinking Pepsi max makes me feel all sorts of bloated. Also seems to have a negative effect, albeit temporary, on my body composition.
Still it tastes great!
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Only in American people would believe such nonsense ::)
You really are a dumbass.
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Bah! Doom does not drink soda!
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You are an idiot. In general, a theory is a time-tested, empirically-validated fact. Not only is what you're saying wrong, it's just plain retarded. You can't just make up some bullshit like this and call it a theory. If you replace regular soda with diet, you're going to reduce your calorie intake. Period. Do not post false information to confuse all the tiny twinks.
So many things wrong with what you said...
I already posted this on this thread. It's called an hypothesis.
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I already posted this on this thread. It's called an hypothesis.
My bad. I didn't read through. I call it shot in the dark.
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Pepsi Max = fabulous drink.
Certainly puts a stop to the sugar cravings for sure.
Another trick to stop sugar cravings is to eat sugar free jelly/jello.
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I agree. Pepsi max is pretty badass. In 20 years, research will probably show that all diet sodas are bad for you somehow... but until then...
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My bad. I didn't read through. I call it shot in the dark.
It bothers me when people use the term 'theory' in everyday colloquialism when they really mean hypothesis. This is why people are confused when scientists use the word Theory. Perhaps they should exchange it with the word 'fact' for everyday use outside the scientific community.
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I agree. Pepsi max is pretty badass. In 20 years, research will probably show that all diet sodas are bad for you somehow... but until then...
haha, must be nice living with your head buried in the sand, 20 yrs ::)
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I thought the problem wasn't in the fact that it was 0 calories but in the fact that sodas are carbonated and carbonation was hindering the absorption process of nutrients.
Correct me if this 'study' was proven wrong in the meantime
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dieet drinks are crap you can find tons of information about it, http://www.womentowomen.com/healthyweight/dietsoda.aspx