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Title: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 21, 2010, 08:14:59 PM
You lied your way into the White House, you haven't had one successful policy and now you have lied, bribed and threatened people who have opposed you into voting for this farce and to top it....you have made people that much lazier. Hope you're happy you have totally screwed our kids.

Now kindly go fuck yourself and have YOUR health care system help pull it out!
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 21, 2010, 08:17:21 PM
he's actually from kenya, right?  They do things differently there. 
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Benny B on March 21, 2010, 08:18:27 PM
You lied your way into the White House, you haven't had one successful policy and now you have lied, bribed and threatened people who have opposed you into voting for this farce and to top it....you have made people that much lazier. Hope you're happy you have totally screwed our kids.

Now kindly go fuck yourself and have YOUR health care system help pull it out!
(http://cornerstork.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/crying_baby.jpg)
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 21, 2010, 08:19:21 PM
he's actually from kenya, right?  They do things differently there. 

Dunno, what does his birth certificate say.....oh wait, never mind!
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Krankenstein on March 21, 2010, 08:19:54 PM
You lied your way into the White House, you haven't had one successful policy and now you have lied, bribed and threatened people who have opposed you into voting for this farce and to top it....you have made people that much lazier. Hope you're happy you have totally screwed our kids.

Now kindly go fuck yourself and have YOUR health care system help pull it out!

I dont agree with a lot of what you say, but on this...we're eye to eye.  Fucking health care bill.  Hope everyone enjoys paying for insurance for illegal aliens.  Hope everyone will enjoy the possibility that it will be ILLEGAL to not have health insurance.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 21, 2010, 08:20:47 PM
(http://cornerstork.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/crying_baby.jpg)

Something tells me your about the same age, working and living capacity as jtsunami. Right?
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 21, 2010, 08:22:39 PM
Somebody in congress just screamed "Baby killer!" in congress at bart Stupak, long-term pro-lifer.

Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Doug_Steele on March 21, 2010, 08:23:48 PM
This is the beginning of the end for our country. This is NOT the America that our forefathers envisioned. Thanks to a bunch of ignorant, uneducated idiots, like you've stated, who voted for Obama because they wanted to make history, we will no longer be the greatest nation in the world. Our freedoms are being taken away bit by bit. This thing will pass unconstitutionally, even though 75% of Americans oppose the "reform". It's no longer about our needs, but big government and their big egos, thinking they know what's best for us better than we do. We get stuck with shitty healthcare that we are forced to purchase, while they are all exempt from it. They are all laughing at us on the inside, going, "GOTCHA!" I guess the only thing we can do is vote the traitors and the liberals out this November, and then the biggest, anti-American, domestic terrorist in 2012.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Danny on March 21, 2010, 08:25:49 PM
(http://cornerstork.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/crying_baby.jpg)

LOL
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 21, 2010, 08:28:11 PM
Somebody in congress just screamed "Baby killer!" in congress at bart Stupak, long-term pro-lifer.



Maybe because they know that Obama and Palosi blew smoke up his ass to get a vote? You don't actually think they would cave to one person do you?
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on March 21, 2010, 08:29:58 PM
This is the beginning of the end for our country. This is NOT the America that our forefathers envisioned. Thanks to a bunch of ignorant, uneducated idiots, like you've stated, who voted for Obama because they wanted to make history, we will no longer be the greatest nation in the world. Our freedoms are being taken away bit by bit. This thing will pass unconstitutionally, even though 75% of Americans oppose the "reform". It's no longer about our needs, but big government and their big egos, thinking they know what's best for us better than we do. We get stuck with shitty healthcare that we are forced to purchase, while they are all exempt from it. They are all laughing at us on the inside, going, "GOTCHA!" I guess the only thing we can do is vote the traitors and the liberals out this November, and then the biggest, anti-American, domestic terrorist in 2012.

It's not your land to begin with.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: chaos on March 21, 2010, 08:29:59 PM
Time for Revolution!
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: MP on March 21, 2010, 08:31:17 PM
Obviously a lot of unhappy people out there looking to do something about this travesty.

The Republican National Committee website has already crashed!

http://www.gop.com
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: ShipSekki on March 21, 2010, 08:31:46 PM
Time for Revolution!

 It's been time for a revolution for about 8 years now.

 It's too bad it took this long for most people to wake up.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Danny on March 21, 2010, 08:32:15 PM
Obviously a lot of unhappy people out there looking to do something about this travesty.

The Republican National Committee website has already crashed!

http://www.gop.com

Maybe from people telling them ...go fuck yourself??  ???
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 21, 2010, 08:32:39 PM
Obviously a lot of unhappy people out there looking to do something about this travesty.

The Republican National Committee website has already crashed!

http://www.gop.com

Damn!!
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 21, 2010, 08:33:41 PM
I'll tell ya why the gop.com is down... michael Steele (gop chairman) asking for $$$

Capitalizing on the emotion of pissed off people sitting by their Email on a sunday night watching the bill pass.  Smart move.  "It's all Pelosi's fault - send us money now and we'll fire her!"

======

And, 10 minutes later, he is on FOX news, reading his script "We can fire nancy pelosi - now is the time.  Go to www.gop.com and help me fire nancy pelosi!  I am leading this movement, etc etc.  SEND US MONEY!"


he's been planning this nice move for a while, huh?  Coordinated email with FOX backing him in a major way as he gets on the air and gets to run his infomercial to angry FOX viewers.  

They're fair and balanced - maybe they'll next give 5 minutes to Howard Dean to come on the air and allow him to speak about his link for collecting $ to help the DNC.

hahahahaha yeah, right...
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Wiggs on March 21, 2010, 08:33:46 PM
LOL...Muthafuckin' meltdown coach.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: MP on March 21, 2010, 08:36:02 PM
Maybe from people telling them ...go fuck yourself??  ???

Drive proudly to work tomorrow with your Obama bumper sticker ... that is, if you work.

Heck, why work? Obama can solve all of your problems.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: chaos on March 21, 2010, 08:37:00 PM
It's been time for a revolution for about 8 years now.

 It's too bad it took this long for most people to wake up.
I've been calling for a Revolution for well over a decade.

Where do we sign up?
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: big L dawg on March 21, 2010, 08:40:15 PM
Our freedoms are being taken away bit by bit.

from a president thats been in office or a year?can you be more specific?
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 21, 2010, 08:47:36 PM
from a president thats been in office or a year?can you be more specific?

And has never accomplished anything politically before he conned his way to the Presidency.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Krankenstein on March 21, 2010, 08:49:16 PM
Obviously a lot of unhappy people out there looking to do something about this travesty.

The Republican National Committee website has already crashed!

http://www.gop.com

wouldnt that be gop.gov?
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 21, 2010, 08:50:00 PM
he won 2 terms in the IL state senate, and won a job in the US senate.

He defeated the mccain and hilary political machines.

he's not stupid or naive - he just has a radical agenda.

THIS IS THE PROBLEM, JOE!  People keep saying he's incompetent, can't get shit done, etc.... they're underestimating obama.

He got healthcare through.  He will get amnesty.  He quietly renamed cap/trade to 'pollution control'.  And his stim bill got thru too.

HE IS EFFECTIVE.  You can disagree with his agenda, as I do.  But he is one politically shrewd mofo.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 21, 2010, 08:53:17 PM
he won 2 terms in the IL state senate, and won a job in the US senate.

He defeated the mccain and hilary political machines.

he's not stupid or naive - he just has a radical agenda.

THIS IS THE PROBLEM, JOE!  People keep saying he's incompetent, can't get shit done, etc.... they're underestimating obama.

He got healthcare through.  He will get amnesty.  He quietly renamed cap/trade to 'pollution control'.  And his stim bill got thru too.

HE IS EFFECTIVE.  You can disagree with his agenda, as I do.  But he is one politically shrewd mofo.

I said accomplished.......he failed his own district in Illinois. No, he's not incompetent, he's worse, he's a communist!
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: MP on March 21, 2010, 08:54:07 PM
wouldnt that be gop.gov?

The RNC has two sites.

Yes, gop.gov is one, and it is loading fine.

They've been promoting the .com, probably why it is down.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 21, 2010, 08:56:05 PM
In terms of the list of lib shit he entered office with - He has accomplished A LOT.

On the politics board, people were celebrating 6 months ago, saying healthcare was dead, that palin destroyed it with the 'death panel talk', etc.  

They keep underestimating this guy.  He won the biggest job in the world.  His stim bill and healthcare bill  - Done in the FIRST YEAR.  

Amnesty, cap/trade, and who knows what other crap is next... but I am tired of people underestimating him.  You cannot defeat an opponent you continually UNDERESTIMATE.

Until the GOP finds some competent voices to deliver a counter message with real legislation - without the racist tones - Obama is going to keep on winning these lib goals he has.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 21, 2010, 09:01:54 PM
In terms of the list of lib shit he entered office with - He has accomplished A LOT.

On the politics board, people were celebrating 6 months ago, saying healthcare was dead, that palin destroyed it with the 'death panel talk', etc.  

They keep underestimating this guy.  He won the biggest job in the world.  His stim bill and healthcare bill  - Done in the FIRST YEAR.  

Amnesty, cap/trade, and who knows what other crap is next... but I am tired of people underestimating him.  You cannot defeat an opponent you continually UNDERESTIMATE.

Until the GOP finds some competent voices to deliver a counter message with real legislation - without the racist tones - Obama is going to keep on winning these lib goals he has.

Ok, I see what you're doing, I know you too well, you're splitting hairs. You're right, he did accomplish alot and what he wanted......but I don't think he wanted it to fail........on which all of it did.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: MP on March 21, 2010, 09:02:01 PM
Until the GOP finds some competent voices to deliver a counter message with real legislation - without the racist tones - Obama is going to keep on winning these lib goals he has.

Racist tones. Huh?

This is about a Democratic president with a Democratic Congress.

The balance of power will shift come the next election.

There is no way in hell he gets re-elected. No way.

He's pulling this stuff off because of the Dems that surround him.

The PEOPLE will speak loud and clear come the next election.

This guy fooled a lot of people.

Hopefully all the damage can be reversed in 2012.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: big L dawg on March 21, 2010, 09:02:58 PM
Ok, I see what you're doing, I know you too well, you're splitting hairs. You're right, he did accomplish alot and what he wanted......but I don't think he wanted it to fail........on which all of it did.

dont forget to keep jesse in your prayers...
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 21, 2010, 09:05:58 PM
MP, i'm talking about the tea party - I love 95% of their political platform.

Their events and protests keep getting attention for a few people in the crowd yelling racist words, instead of their very good message.

It's holding them back from becoming a powerful political force which could work with repubs in 2012 and defeat obama.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: MP on March 21, 2010, 09:07:43 PM
MP, i'm talking about the tea party - I love 95% of their political platform.

Their events and protests keep getting attention for a few people in the crowd yelling racist words, instead of their very good message.

It's holding them back from becoming a powerful political force which could work with repubs in 2012 and defeat obama.

Thanks for clarifying. Agreed.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Lumberjack88 on March 21, 2010, 09:21:39 PM
This healthcare bill is total bullshit... they should have listened to people like kucinich or dean, but there's a problem... the pharma industry has a lot of cash to offer, and it's hard for many politicians to say no to this offer... hence why they've pushed this current watered down bill through which allows pharma firms to make even bigger gains...

It's all about the money, and it amazes me how americans can still trust politicians on both sides, which are OBVIOUSLY bought by corporate america...
You think Jim Bunning cares about you? Pelosi, or Dodd? How about McCain? Does he care? They are all in it for the money... it's not government by the people for the people, it's government by corporations for corporations...

If americans don't change their voting principles, this left right thinking, i'm not too optimistic about america's future...

America once started as the greatest country on earth, the first to separate state and religion, and now you're praying in the pentagon and teaching kids that Jefferson was not part of americas history because he was against a union of state and religion?
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 21, 2010, 09:23:12 PM
insurance companies can't dump you for pre-existing conditions anymore.

If you have a job as an adult, and choose not to carry health insurance, you pay a fine of $325 a year.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Danny on March 21, 2010, 09:32:08 PM
insurance companies can't dump you for pre-existing conditions anymore.

If you have a job as an adult, and choose not to carry health insurance, you pay a fine of $325 a year.

I think that's something all democrats and republicans should be thankful for.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: dkf360 on March 21, 2010, 09:34:23 PM
Yes!!! It finally passed. Been waiting for this day for a long time.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: big L dawg on March 21, 2010, 09:34:58 PM
insurance companies can't dump you for pre-existing conditions anymore.

If you have a job as an adult, and choose not to carry health insurance, you pay a fine of $325 a year.

thats brutal...
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 21, 2010, 09:38:33 PM
"I think that's something all democrats and republicans should be thankful for."

IF IF IF the repubs had passed something doing only this, in the 12 years the owned congress, Obamacare would have never passed.  It's taht simple.

The repubs did NOTHING for 12 years on healthcare... so nobody should act surprised that the first crap sandwich that obama offers 30 mil hungry uninsured people suddenly passes with flying colors.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: jesusbod on March 21, 2010, 09:40:43 PM
Somebody in congress just screamed "Baby killer!" in congress at bart Stupak, long-term pro-lifer.



He changed his vote.. He should be called that considering your tax dollars are going to be able to go to fund abortions..
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Danny on March 21, 2010, 09:40:49 PM


IF IF IF the repubs had passed something doing only this, in the 12 years the owned congress, Obamacare would have never passed.  It's taht simple.


I guess Karl Rove wasnt such a mastermind afterall...LOL
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 21, 2010, 09:42:56 PM
i dont like the bill, let me be clear.

but repubs would have never changed anything about healthcare.

obama could have put anything in this bill, and thanks to pre-existing conditions, and the fact ppl are so tired of that, this bill would have passed.

Bush did some good things, and some bad things.  Neglecting 30 mil uninsured people for 8 years was a mistake.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: dkf360 on March 21, 2010, 09:46:46 PM
The healthcare industry is currently a racket. If it means everyone pays the price to eliminate it, then it is worth it.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: WEAPONX on March 21, 2010, 09:49:43 PM
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Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: big L dawg on March 21, 2010, 09:50:46 PM
The healthcare industry is currently a racket. If it means everyone pays the price to eliminate it, then it is worth it.

are you saying insurance companys arent doing gods work?
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Danny on March 21, 2010, 09:54:45 PM
are you saying insurance companys arent doing gods work?

Of course they are....God must be republican.. ;D
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: dkf360 on March 21, 2010, 09:57:08 PM
are you saying insurance companys arent doing gods work?
Yes, no more year over year premium increases of +40% is a good thing for everyone, including corporations.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on March 21, 2010, 09:58:18 PM
I've been calling for a Revolution for well over a decade.

Where do we sign up?

Good man, I'm with you!
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: ShipSekki on March 21, 2010, 10:07:04 PM
You lied your way into the White House, you haven't had one successful policy and now you have lied, bribed and threatened people who have opposed you into voting for this farce and to top it....you have made people that much lazier. Hope you're happy you have totally screwed our kids.

Now kindly go fuck yourself and have YOUR health care system help pull it out!

 I agree with all this. But you sound like you support the Republicans and for that you are a straight up sucker.

 What did you think about it then the Bush administration was wasting trillions of dollars in the Middle East? And suprise, surprise, Obama is continueing these wars instead of pulling out like he claimed he would.

 Puppet leaders....
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Benny B on March 21, 2010, 10:25:00 PM
Something tells me your about the same age, working and living capacity as jtsunami. Right?
Nope! Sorry.  :-*
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Red Hook on March 21, 2010, 10:28:12 PM
i dont like the bill, let me be clear.

but repubs would have never changed anything about healthcare.

obama could have put anything in this bill, and thanks to pre-existing conditions, and the fact ppl are so tired of that, this bill would have passed.

Bush did some good things, and some bad things.  Neglecting 30 mil uninsured people for 8 years was a mistake.

while the reps had the white house for 8 years where coach screaming about "failures"? not one peep.

now that a president that he didn't vote for tries to enact a bill that he doesn't approve of it is called a failure?


just to make sure that I understand...basically coach wants a president that he didn't vote for enact bills that coach supports?  

you lost, now deal with it, next time get more voters..pull up your boot traps and behave like a man.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: INSOMNIA on March 21, 2010, 10:56:00 PM


Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: INSOMNIA on March 21, 2010, 10:58:24 PM
.

The repubs did NOTHING for 12 years on healthcare... so nobody should act surprised that the first crap sandwich that obama offers 30 mil hungry uninsured people suddenly passes with flying colors.

agreed.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: TEsticles on March 21, 2010, 11:49:37 PM
doco after doco ,i  remember watching many  shows on those militia groups/organisations that are scattered in places like colorado , montana, etc,
saying things like " were armed and if the government comes to take our rights away we'll defend them with our lives" and other statements of out o' control governments taking away their liberties and messing with the constitution.
  
Those were the years of the reagan , bush the elder , clinton admins, and i'd think how fucked up are these people, and unaware that their in a country that truly stands for freedom and individual rights....damn rednecks. looks like their paranoia was right all along....enter obama and his communist/progressive cronies attempting to break america into a follower of the european model of government with a socialist brainwashed population, dancing to that poor excuse of a human 'pelosi's tunes........ revolution!!  ( and i'm an australian ffs!!)
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: ShipSekki on March 22, 2010, 12:08:03 AM
doco after doco ,i  remember watching many  shows on those militia groups/organisations that are scattered in places like colorado , montana, etc,
saying things like " were armed and if the government comes to take our rights away we'll defend them with our lives" and other statements of out o' control governments taking away their liberties and messing with the constitution.
  
Those were the years of the reagan , bush the elder , clinton admins, and i'd think how fucked up are these people, and unaware that their in a country that truly stands for freedom and individual rights....damn rednecks. looks like their paranoia was right all along....enter obama and his communist/progressive cronies attempting to break america into a follower of the european model of government with a socialist brainwashed population, dancing to that poor excuse of a human 'pelosi's tunes........ revolution!!  ( and i'm an australian ffs!!)

 You fucking idiot. You didn't notice Bush doing the exact same things since about 2002???

 I am no fan of Obama, but Bush was MUCH worse.

 So many people are fucking idiots, brainwashed into hating "socialists" and "commies" and they don't even really know what these things are.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: tbombz on March 22, 2010, 12:12:28 AM
This is the beginning of the end for our country. This is NOT the America that our forefathers envisioned. Thanks to a bunch of ignorant, uneducated idiots, like you've stated, who voted for Obama because they wanted to make history, we will no longer be the greatest nation in the world. Our freedoms are being taken away bit by bit. This thing will pass unconstitutionally, even though 75% of Americans oppose the "reform".

lmao! you are one ignorant individual.  ;D
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: tbombz on March 22, 2010, 12:14:55 AM
MP, i'm talking about the tea party - I love 95% of their political platform.

Their events and protests keep getting attention for a few people in the crowd yelling racist words, instead of their very good message.

It's holding them back from becoming a powerful political force which could work with repubs in 2012 and defeat obama.
the "Tea Party" has absolutely zero relevance to anything, totally created by the media, a small group of retards who have sarah palin come speak to them.. lmao...
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: tbombz on March 22, 2010, 12:16:35 AM
insurance companies can't dump you for pre-existing conditions anymore.

If you have a job as an adult, and choose not to carry health insurance, you pay a fine of $325 a year.

both of those are unconstitutional


this "bill" does absolutely nothing.. in fact it makes things worse... because now we will have to wait even longer for REAL change...  while the country sits aorund and waits until they figure out that this bill does nothing..
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: tbombz on March 22, 2010, 12:19:56 AM
instead of revolution, how about we start electing real politicians, and not just loud mouthed ignoramouses who are arrogant enough to think their opinion matters when they dont have any expertise on any of the issues at hand.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Tapeworm on March 22, 2010, 12:24:55 AM
Seems like half of you object to the bill because it's not 'real' reform while the other half object to the proposition that everyone in America should have access to medical care.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: tbombz on March 22, 2010, 12:26:45 AM
Seems like half of you object to the bill because it's not 'real' reform while the other half object to the proposition that everyone in America should have access to medical care.

so its real reform, then?  :)

Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: tbombz on March 22, 2010, 12:28:05 AM
Obama is a stupid piece of shit, he should have never ran for office if he intended on letting the republicans rape him and control his agenda.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: INSOMNIA on March 22, 2010, 12:35:24 AM
the 'system' as it stood 20-30 years ago seemed to work out quite well. would make too much sense for 'reform' to revert back to that  ???

I cant afford health insurance as it stands right now..  @ $700+ per month for me & family, and on top of that a bunch more of out of pocket expense if there is any hospital care, prescriptions, etc. Somone like me who relies mostly on natural cures and is otherwise extremely healthy.. makes no sense to pay that. But in the slight chance of a mishap, I'm gonna be screwed with medical bills.

This currrent bill does nothing but add more govt beaurocracy, which there is way too much of already.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: tbombz on March 22, 2010, 12:37:15 AM
the 'system' as it stood 20-30 years ago seemed to work out quite well. would make too much sense for 'reform' to revert back to that  ???

I cant afford health insurance as it stands right now..  @ $700+ per month for me & family, and on top of that a bunch more of out of pocket expense if there is any hospital care, prescriptions, etc. Somone like me who relies mostly on natural cures and is otherwise extremely healthy.. makes no sense to pay that. But in the slight chance of a mishap, I'm gonna be screwed with medical bills.

This currrent bill does nothing but add more govt beaurocracy, which there is way too much of already.

the only solution is universal single payer healthcare
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Parker on March 22, 2010, 12:39:03 AM
instead of revolution, how about we start electing real politicians, and not just loud mouthed ignoramouses who are arrogant enough to think their opinion matters when they dont have any expertise on any of the issues at hand.

These are real politicians. Politicians are whores, plain and simple. Always have, always will be. It's not that one cannot be a good whore, its the bad ones that give a good whore a bad name. Besides, one cannot be a Pure hearted (I forgot the term i learned in college) politician. There is a certain level of give and take.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Tapeworm on March 22, 2010, 12:40:15 AM
so its real reform, then?  :)



I don't know anything about it.  Just heard 'universal health care bill passes in America" on the radio a few hours ago at work.  Experience shows, however, that whatever something might be called rarely has any relation to its substance, so I'd have to find out exactly what has passed before I could give it a yay or nay.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: ShipSekki on March 22, 2010, 12:42:06 AM
instead of revolution, how about we start electing real politicians, and not just loud mouthed ignoramouses who are arrogant enough to think their opinion matters when they dont have any expertise on any of the issues at hand.

 Because the fact is that the vast majority of people are TOO STUPID and uneducated to see through these politicians bullshit.

 That's the problem with Democracy, any idiot can walk in and vote. And they all do.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Parker on March 22, 2010, 12:47:22 AM
Because the fact is that the vast majority of people are TOO STUPID and uneducated to see through these politicians bullshit.

 That's the problem with Democracy, any idiot can walk in and vote. And they all do.
For the last 30 yrs, do to Baby Boomer Parenting, the American population has been dumbed down.

People can blame MTV if they want, but someone still has to turn on the TV.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: TEsticles on March 22, 2010, 12:57:47 AM
You fucking idiot. You didn't notice Bush doing the exact same things since about 2002???

 I am no fan of Obama, but Bush was MUCH worse.

 So many people are fucking idiots, brainwashed into hating "socialists" and "commies" and they don't even really know what these things are.
patience shitseki, good things come to those who wait.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Red Hook on March 22, 2010, 06:02:55 AM
the only solution is universal single payer healthcare

yep, quoted for truth....

unfortunately in America the obvious and simple answer to any problem is debated to the death and even then the left and right will come out with the polar opposite view of it.

it is disheartening that the best minds can't be locked in a room and come with a solution and not contrition.  It seems like the politicians are more concerned with towing the party lines than finding solutions.  And ofcourse the general population seem to have fallen inline :(






Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 22, 2010, 06:53:43 AM
the only solution is universal single payer healthcare

Yeah right, because it's worked so well in other countries and people are dieing 2-3 x's the rate they do here and those countries who have aren't going broke....brilliant ::)
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: newmom on March 22, 2010, 07:01:33 AM
insurance companies can't dump you for pre-existing conditions anymore.

If you have a job as an adult, and choose not to carry health insurance, you pay a fine of $325 a year.

That is part of the bill I don't agree with. Guess I'm naive and yes I voted for Obama, not to make history, I believed what he said, do I wanna double step it..yup
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 22, 2010, 07:03:55 AM
That is part of the bill I don't agree with. Guess I'm naive and yes I voted for Obama, not to make history, I believed what he said, do I wanna double step it..yup

You got duped!
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 22, 2010, 07:04:06 AM
"Yeah right, because it's worked so well in other countries and people are dieing 2-3 x's the rate they do here and those countries who have aren't going broke....brilliant "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

Actually, the USA is 38th in the world for life expectancy.

Many of the countries ranked before us (whose people live longer) use universal healthcare.  Hell, South Koreans live longer than Americans...
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: newmom on March 22, 2010, 07:05:08 AM
You got duped!

no shit Joe, but it won't be the first or last in my lifetime I'm sure
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: dr.chimps on March 22, 2010, 07:13:29 AM
You lied your way into the White House, you haven't had one successful policy and now you have lied, bribed and threatened people who have opposed you into voting for this farce and to top it....you have made people that much lazier. Hope you're happy you have totally screwed our kids.

Now kindly go fuck yourself and have YOUR health care system help pull it out!
LOL. Coach can melt down all by himself.  ;D
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: TrapsMcLats on March 22, 2010, 07:15:36 AM
"Yeah right, because it's worked so well in other countries and people are dieing 2-3 x's the rate they do here and those countries who have aren't going broke....brilliant "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

Actually, the USA is 38th in the world for life expectancy.

Many of the countries ranked before us (whose people live longer) use universal healthcare.  Hell, South Koreans live longer than Americans...

like every other conservative, coach will say that "if they took car accidents outta the equation, americans are the longest living in the world."
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Danny on March 22, 2010, 08:11:50 AM
"Yeah right, because it's worked so well in other countries and people are dieing 2-3 x's the rate they do here and those countries who have aren't going broke....brilliant "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

Actually, the USA is 38th in the world for life expectancy.

Many of the countries ranked before us (whose people live longer) use universal healthcare.  Hell, South Koreans live longer than Americans...

Yeah, but ssshhhhh dont tell that to people like Coach who listen to Fuckbaugh every day and get their news from Faux News, they're gonna say everybody is lying except for BEck and Doughboy and there is  a conspiracy to make America a communist country in 2 years.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 22, 2010, 09:06:03 AM
Yeah, but ssshhhhh dont tell that to people like Coach who listen to Fuckbaugh every day and get their news from Faux News, they're gonna say everybody is lying except for BEck and Doughboy and there is  a conspiracy to make America a communist country in 2 years.

Another lazy liberal who seems to think he's entitled.

Don't bring me into your little communist world. I wasn't referring to life expectancy. Nice spin tho Rob.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: MP on March 22, 2010, 09:06:38 AM
So many people are fucking idiots, brainwashed into hating "socialists" and "commies" and they don't even really know what these things are.

It's not that difficult of a concept to grasp.

First banks. Then auto manufacturers. Now health care.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: tbombz on March 22, 2010, 09:10:53 AM
Yeah right, because it's worked so well in other countries and people are dieing 2-3 x's the rate they do here and those countries who have aren't going broke....brilliant ::)
Universal health care works fabulous in just about every single country that has it.  :)

your making shit up and spouting off things you hear on radio and television talk shows, you have no idea about how our government works or how other governments on our planet work.  :)
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: tbombz on March 22, 2010, 09:14:36 AM
It's not that difficult of a concept to grasp.

First banks. Then auto manufacturers. Now health care.

it was the corporate republicans who pushed for government bail out of the banks and auto manfacturers! hahahaha


listen up, the rich people in our country lie about their intentions and control government policy to best benefit them. when government programs hurt their business, they oppose them; and when government programs help their business they support them.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 22, 2010, 09:17:12 AM
it was the corporate republicans who pushed for government bail out of the banks and auto manfacturers! hahahaha


listen up, the rich people in our country lie about their intentions and control government policy to best benefit them. when government programs hurt their business, they oppose them; and when government programs help their business they support them.

Aahh, this is what this is really about!

Be honest...did you even vote?
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: tbombz on March 22, 2010, 09:22:54 AM
This is about pointing out that the so-called politicians in our country are nothing but slaves to media hype and their campaign donors. and about the fact that people like you are so ignorant and disillusioned...
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 22, 2010, 09:24:52 AM
This is about pointing out that the so-called politicians in our country are nothing but slaves to media hype and their campaign donors. and about the fact that people like you are so ignorant and disillusioned...

DID YOU VOTE?
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: dkf360 on March 22, 2010, 09:25:34 AM
Another lazy liberal who seems to think he's entitled.

Don't bring me into your little communist world. I wasn't referring to life expectancy. Nice spin tho Rob.
Then what were you referring to when you say people are dying 2-3x the American rate? And what does that have to do with universal healthcare? Are these people dying because of sub-par healthcare or other reasons?

Without that clarification, your argument goes in the gutter.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: tbombz on March 22, 2010, 09:26:54 AM
DID YOU VOTE?
absolutely not, no reason to.  :)
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 22, 2010, 09:27:39 AM
It's not that difficult of a concept to grasp.

First banksjavascript:void(0);. Then auto manufacturers. Now health care.

Well maybe if the people who were in charge of these entities didn't FUCK THEM UP ROYALLY the Gov't wouldn't have to step in.

And let's not forget that the banks and automakers ran to Capitol hill with their hat in their hand when they realized they were fucked.

It's wrong that in supposedly "the greatest country in the world"...people can't go to the doctor. I don't know exactly how this is going to impact me personally, I already have coverage.

But i think it's the rich, selfish assholes who would rather kill their mother than part with some money for the greater good that ruin this country. the reason poor people can't afford healthcare is that they are paid peanuts to do hard fucking jobs by rich fucks who have them by the balls. i have no problem with capitalism (other than it has bankrupted this country ;)) but what i really hate is greedy rich assholes who have no compassion for anyone and fucking lie, cheat and steal to get richer (see Wall street). These fucking reptiles have ruined this country and they should be killed.


People like Coach can't see past their own nose.

His idea of "being an American" is holding on to your money with a death-grip before you might actually help someone less fortunate.


But's it's OK if they mow your lawn and clean your gutters for $6 dollars an hour (on the books, so the owners of the companies they work for can write them off  ;))

That's what a "Republican" is
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on March 22, 2010, 09:29:16 AM
my fella friend,,,know how its run,,but coash does not,,,he believes in stabbing people for cash for a dollar and he will watch it
Well maybe if the people who were in charge of these entities didn't FUCK THEM UP ROYALLY the Gov't wouldn't have to step in.

And let's not forget that the banks and automakers ran to Capitol hill with their hat in their hand when they realized they were fucked.

It's wrong that in supposedly "the greatest country in the world"...people can't go to the doctor. I don't know exactly how this is going to impact me personally, I already have coverage.

But i think it's the rich, selfish assholes who would rather kill their mother than part with some money for the greater good that ruin this country. the reason poor people can't afford healthcare is that they are paid peanuts to do hard fucking jobs by rich fucks who have them by the balls. i have no problem with capitalism (other than it has bankrupted this country ;)) but what i really hate is greedy rich assholes who have no compassion for anyone and fucking lie, cheat and steal to get richer (see Wall street). These fucking reptiles have ruined this country and they should be killed.


People like Coach can't see past their own nose
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: jwb on March 22, 2010, 09:29:46 AM
america needs to start taxing their junk food like we do in australia since overeating is their main health issue...

$3 for a can of coke stops you drinking too much of it pretty quickly!
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: wes mantooth on March 22, 2010, 09:41:30 AM
Please do not post in hopes of waiting for a response from Coach until tomorrow..........













Hes helping Rush pack all of his shit into a Uhaul today
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 22, 2010, 09:45:26 AM
Well maybe if the people who were in charge of these entities didn't FUCK THEM UP ROYALLY the Gov't wouldn't have to step in.

And let's not forget that the banks and automakers ran to Capitol hill with their hat in their hand when they realized they were fucked.

It's wrong that in supposedly "the greatest country in the world"...people can't go to the doctor. I don't know exactly how this is going to impact me personally, I already have coverage.

But i think it's the rich, selfish assholes who would rather kill their mother than part with some money for the greater good that ruin this country. the reason poor people can't afford healthcare is that they are paid peanuts to do hard fucking jobs by rich fucks who have them by the balls. i have no problem with capitalism (other than it has bankrupted this country ;)) but what i really hate is greedy rich assholes who have no compassion for anyone and fucking lie, cheat and steal to get richer (see Wall street). These fucking reptiles have ruined this country and they should be killed.


People like Coach can't see past their own nose.

His idea of "being an American" is holding on to your money with a death-grip before you might actually help someone less fortunate.



But's it's OK if they mow your lawn and clean your gutters for $6 dollars an hour (on the books, so the owners of the companies they work for can write them off  ;))

That's what a "Republican" is

Is that a fact? Let m ask you, how much did you voluntarily give away or donate last year? don't have to give a dollar amount just an approximate percentage.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: big L dawg on March 22, 2010, 10:04:19 AM
Well maybe if the people who were in charge of these entities didn't FUCK THEM UP ROYALLY the Gov't wouldn't have to step in.

And let's not forget that the banks and automakers ran to Capitol hill with their hat in their hand when they realized they were fucked.

It's wrong that in supposedly "the greatest country in the world"...people can't go to the doctor. I don't know exactly how this is going to impact me personally, I already have coverage.

But i think it's the rich, selfish assholes who would rather kill their mother than part with some money for the greater good that ruin this country. the reason poor people can't afford healthcare is that they are paid peanuts to do hard fucking jobs by rich fucks who have them by the balls. i have no problem with capitalism (other than it has bankrupted this country ;)) but what i really hate is greedy rich assholes who have no compassion for anyone and fucking lie, cheat and steal to get richer (see Wall street). These fucking reptiles have ruined this country and they should be killed.


People like Coach can't see past their own nose.

His idea of "being an American" is holding on to your money with a death-grip before you might actually help someone less fortunate.


But's it's OK if they mow your lawn and clean your gutters for $6 dollars an hour (on the books, so the owners of the companies they work for can write them off  ;))

That's what a "Republican" is

wow...me and groink are about to agree on something...this post is spot on^^^100%...
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 22, 2010, 10:23:50 AM
Is that a fact? Let m ask you, how much did you voluntarily give away or donate last year? don't have to give a dollar amount just an approximate percentage.

I'm sure you do...be it a tax write off, or to promote your business  ;)

I don't know you personally and i'm not saying you are a bad guy....you just come off like a typical republican
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Hulkster on March 22, 2010, 10:26:22 AM
I still find it funny that americans were fighting the reform of their awful healthcare system where people go bankrupt to stay alive.

here in canada, if I need surgery, I go and get it done.

in the US, I could possibly go broke and lose my house due to the medical bills..

yet, american's were resistant to a change. LOL ::)
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: ag2 on March 22, 2010, 10:55:10 AM
And has never accomplished anything politically before he conned his way to the Presidency.

Yeah because BUsh earned his presidency fair and square right?  ::)   Florida 2000 and Ohio 2004 say hi
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: dr.chimps on March 22, 2010, 10:57:12 AM
People like Coach can't see past their own nose.

His idea of "being an American" is holding on to your money with a death-grip before you might actually help someone less fortunate.


But's it's OK if they mow your lawn and clean your gutters for $6 dollars an hour (on the books, so the owners of the companies they work for can write them off  ;))

That's what a "Republican" is
Hehe. Spot on. I'd add that they also stiff the pizza delivery guy for his/her tip because they 'pretend' the delivery charge covers it.  ;)
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: jwb on March 22, 2010, 11:01:29 AM
Hehe. Spot on. I'd add that they also stiff the pizza delivery guy for his/her tip because they 'pretend' the delivery charge covers it.  ;)
why doesn't america just start paying normal prices for consumer goods and services like the rest of the world?

wages are too low because people are tight asses.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: jtsunami on March 22, 2010, 11:05:19 AM
Something tells me your about the same age, working and living capacity as jtsunami. Right?

hey comon coach I haven't even posted today
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Danny on March 22, 2010, 11:14:19 AM
Another lazy liberal who seems to think he's entitled.

Don't bring me into your little communist world. I wasn't referring to life expectancy. Nice spin tho Rob.

Entitled???? No...but I'm sure as hell I'm not gonna sit idle and look at these motherfuckers in the insurance industry ripping everybody off and doing whatever the fuck they want just because they can, only to deny you coverage when you need it most. And puuuuhhhleeeeeaase...... .... stop with your communist bullshit.....you must be out of your God damn mind if you think I want communism....I had fled a communist country a long time ago ...and risked to be shot on sight so spare me.  ;)
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: jtsunami on March 22, 2010, 11:43:36 AM
Well maybe if the people who were in charge of these entities didn't FUCK THEM UP ROYALLY the Gov't wouldn't have to step in.

And let's not forget that the banks and automakers ran to Capitol hill with their hat in their hand when they realized they were fucked.

It's wrong that in supposedly "the greatest country in the world"...people can't go to the doctor. I don't know exactly how this is going to impact me personally, I already have coverage.

But i think it's the rich, selfish assholes who would rather kill their mother than part with some money for the greater good that ruin this country. the reason poor people can't afford healthcare is that they are paid peanuts to do hard fucking jobs by rich fucks who have them by the balls. i have no problem with capitalism (other than it has bankrupted this country ;)) but what i really hate is greedy rich assholes who have no compassion for anyone and fucking lie, cheat and steal to get richer (see Wall street). These fucking reptiles have ruined this country and they should be killed.


People like Coach can't see past their own nose.

His idea of "being an American" is holding on to your money with a death-grip before you might actually help someone less fortunate.


But's it's OK if they mow your lawn and clean your gutters for $6 dollars an hour (on the books, so the owners of the companies they work for can write them off  ;))

That's what a "Republican" is

wow didn't know you had this in you to speak such truth, even though we disagree about Nasser, you are absolutely correct on this.

jt
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: jetpower on March 22, 2010, 12:17:09 PM
Well maybe if the people who were in charge of these entities didn't FUCK THEM UP ROYALLY the Gov't wouldn't have to step in.

And let's not forget that the banks and automakers ran to Capitol hill with their hat in their hand when they realized they were fucked.
The automakers who messed things up are Obama's friends (unions) not greedy CEO's.
The bankers were forced by the government to give the unsecured loans as, what you could all, an entitlement to those who would not normally be eligible for such loans.

It's wrong that in supposedly "the greatest country in the world"...people can't go to the doctor. I don't know exactly how this is going to impact me personally, I already have coverage.
If you don't know what the healthcare bills mean to you, don't get angry about it. And, before the healthcare bill, anyone could get treatment. I know two close friends (different cases) who had $12k and a $250k bills taken care of by the government and private charities because they could not afford to pay. So saying we need these massive bills is bull - obviously we need to fix pieces of healthcare, but not nationalize it (or take steps to nationalize it so it ends up like banks and autos).

But i think it's the rich, selfish assholes who would rather kill their mother than part with some money for the greater good that ruin this country. the reason poor people can't afford healthcare is that they are paid peanuts to do hard fucking jobs by rich fucks who have them by the balls. i have no problem with capitalism (other than it has bankrupted this country ;)) but what i really hate is greedy rich assholes who have no compassion for anyone and fucking lie, cheat and steal to get richer (see Wall street). These fucking reptiles have ruined this country and they should be killed.
Demonizing rich won't help the poor. The more someone is given the less they are driven to work for themselves. It's not a matter of being heartless, it's being wise. Give a man a fish and feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and you feed him for life. Give a man a fish and don't teach him and you have a slave for life. Now that's a travesty. And, how these people use a positive ("help the poor") to trick you into actually making it worse for the poor (and better for them because they are the ones who want the poor to be slaves).


People like Coach can't see past their own nose.

His idea of "being an American" is holding on to your money with a death-grip before you might actually help someone less fortunate.


But's it's OK if they mow your lawn and clean your gutters for $6 dollars an hour (on the books, so the owners of the companies they work for can write them off  ;))

That's what a "Republican" is
Again, the "mowing your lawn" concept is more of what someone who gives "stuff" to the poor would support. Someone who taught the poor and didn't give them anything, is someone who would like those poor to be self-sufficient...start out mowing your lawn, while going to school, then end up running a business after having pulled themselves out of poverty by their bootstraps. Entitlements and handouts NEVER work and only enslave the recipients.

So, actually, the true and honest love for neighbor comes from those who DO NOT give handouts, make up new "rights", or grant entitlements.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Lumberjack88 on March 22, 2010, 12:45:32 PM
Well maybe if the people who were in charge of these entities didn't FUCK THEM UP ROYALLY the Gov't wouldn't have to step in.

And let's not forget that the banks and automakers ran to Capitol hill with their hat in their hand when they realized they were fucked.

It's wrong that in supposedly "the greatest country in the world"...people can't go to the doctor. I don't know exactly how this is going to impact me personally, I already have coverage.

But i think it's the rich, selfish assholes who would rather kill their mother than part with some money for the greater good that ruin this country. the reason poor people can't afford healthcare is that they are paid peanuts to do hard fucking jobs by rich fucks who have them by the balls. i have no problem with capitalism (other than it has bankrupted this country ;)) but what i really hate is greedy rich assholes who have no compassion for anyone and fucking lie, cheat and steal to get richer (see Wall street). These fucking reptiles have ruined this country and they should be killed.


People like Coach can't see past their own nose.

His idea of "being an American" is holding on to your money with a death-grip before you might actually help someone less fortunate.


But's it's OK if they mow your lawn and clean your gutters for $6 dollars an hour (on the books, so the owners of the companies they work for can write them off  ;))

That's what a "Republican" is

Greg is absolutely right, I totally agree...
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: funk51 on March 22, 2010, 01:30:01 PM
You lied your way into the White House, you haven't had one successful policy and now you have lied, bribed and threatened people who have opposed you into voting for this farce and to top it....you have made people that much lazier. Hope you're happy you have totally screwed our kids.

Now kindly go fuck yourself and have YOUR health care system help pull it out!
i think we're heading for a revolution, or a civil war. the crap we're doing now ainta workin.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: MP on March 22, 2010, 02:09:10 PM
jetpower is on the money.
Title: Re: Congrats Mr. Obama
Post by: Mons Venus on March 22, 2010, 02:23:13 PM
You lied your way into the White House, you haven't had one successful policy and now you have lied, bribed and threatened people who have opposed you into voting for this farce and to top it....you have made people that much lazier. Hope you're happy you have totally screwed our kids.

Now kindly go fuck yourself and have YOUR health care system help pull it out!

Looks like your Bill Clinton vote carried over.  ;D BTW..how r your 5 previous wives?