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Title: Recent USA Today Poll 49-40 in favour of health care plan
Post by: kcballer on March 25, 2010, 12:24:11 PM
Wow people sure do change quick huh?   At this rate it'll be a noose the republicans will hang themselves with.
Title: Re: Recent USA Today Poll 49-40 in favour of health care plan
Post by: BM OUT on March 25, 2010, 12:31:15 PM
Wow people sure do change quick huh?   At this rate it'll be a noose the republicans will hang themselves with.

Want to bet?ZERO promises fulfilled to 2014.NO ONE wil se one benefit from this except free loading scum bag kids living at home until they are 26.
Title: Re: Recent USA Today Poll 49-40 in favour of health care plan
Post by: 240 is Back on March 25, 2010, 12:35:04 PM
people love a winner.  still, it's amazing to see such a swing.  Obama's sales job on the bill is working, accurate or not.
Title: Re: Recent USA Today Poll 49-40 in favour of health care plan
Post by: The Showstoppa on March 25, 2010, 12:46:11 PM
people love a winner.  still, it's amazing to see such a swing.  Obama's sales job on the bill is working, accurate or not.

It will fade as more and more details about the plan come out.
Title: Re: Recent USA Today Poll 49-40 in favour of health care plan
Post by: MCWAY on March 25, 2010, 12:50:58 PM
Wow people sure do change quick huh?   At this rate it'll be a noose the republicans will hang themselves with.

Not really!! CNN cites a 59% disapproval of ObamaCare.



Title: Re: Recent USA Today Poll 49-40 in favour of health care plan
Post by: kcballer on March 25, 2010, 12:50:58 PM
Great job by him all around.  He's implementing FDR's second bill of rights
Title: Re: Recent USA Today Poll 49-40 in favour of health care plan
Post by: BM OUT on March 25, 2010, 12:58:08 PM
Great job by him all around.  He's implementing FDR's second bill of rights

Thats fantastic as FDR destroyed the country.Its tremendous.Let me ask you this,who will pay for all this?
Title: Re: Recent USA Today Poll 49-40 in favour of health care plan
Post by: Dos Equis on March 25, 2010, 01:01:48 PM
55% Favor Repeal of Health Care Bill
Thursday, March 25, 2010

Just before the House of Representatives passed sweeping health care legislation last Sunday, 41% of voters nationwide favored the legislation while 54% were opposed. Now that President Obama has signed the legislation into law, most voters want to see it repealed.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey, conducted on the first two nights after the president signed the bill, shows that 55% favor repealing the legislation. Forty-two percent (42%) oppose repeal. Those figures include 46% who Strongly Favor repeal and 35% who Strongly Oppose it.

. . . .

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/march_2010/55_favor_repeal_of_health_care_bill
Title: Re: Recent USA Today Poll 49-40 in favour of health care plan
Post by: kcballer on March 25, 2010, 01:11:04 PM
It's changing Beach.   It's moving towards the other side.  Sad for you but true.  It will NEVER be repealed.   :D

Such a great step forward. 
Title: Re: Recent USA Today Poll 49-40 in favour of health care plan
Post by: Dos Equis on March 25, 2010, 01:13:39 PM
It's changing Beach.   It's moving towards the other side.  Sad for you but true.  It will NEVER be repealed.   :D

Such a great step forward. 

We shall see.  With the court challenges this thing will not be effective for years and things could change in November and 2012. 
Title: Re: Recent USA Today Poll 49-40 in favour of health care plan
Post by: kcballer on March 25, 2010, 01:16:10 PM
We shall see.  With the court challenges this thing will not be effective for years and things could change in November and 2012. 

Court challenges are moot beach.  Any state can opt out and have it's own plan. 
Title: Re: Recent USA Today Poll 49-40 in favour of health care plan
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 25, 2010, 01:16:15 PM
We shall see.  With the court challenges this thing will not be effective for years and things could change in November and 2012. 

KC cheers on national insolvency.  
Title: Re: Recent USA Today Poll 49-40 in favour of health care plan
Post by: kcballer on March 25, 2010, 01:18:47 PM
KC cheers on national insolvency.  

333 cheers on the death of the poor and sick. 
Title: Re: Recent USA Today Poll 49-40 in favour of health care plan
Post by: chadstallion on March 25, 2010, 01:20:46 PM
333 cheers on the death of the poor and sick. 
no, deep down he's a hot new york dago studmuffin.  cut him some slack..he might not be having a good day today..
Title: Re: Recent USA Today Poll 49-40 in favour of health care plan
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 25, 2010, 01:21:11 PM
333 cheers on the death of the poor and sick. 

Guess what KC, if we become insolvent the end result will be far more dead and sick than if we go back to tried and true free market economics.  
Title: Re: Recent USA Today Poll 49-40 in favour of health care plan
Post by: Dos Equis on March 25, 2010, 01:21:17 PM
Court challenges are moot beach.  Any state can opt out and have it's own plan. 

Then I guess those fourteen states are in trouble.  Again, we shall see.  I don't think it's quite that simple.  

Then there are the more than 30 states that are considering passing legislation to block various portion of the new law.  This is far from settled IMO.  
Title: Re: Recent USA Today Poll 49-40 in favour of health care plan
Post by: kcballer on March 25, 2010, 01:32:38 PM
Then I guess those fourteen states are in trouble.  Again, we shall see.  I don't think it's quite that simple.  

Then there are the more than 30 states that are considering passing legislation to block various portion of the new law.  This is far from settled IMO.  

Block what?  They can OPT OUT.  It's right in the bill.  Any state that wants to can opt out and start their own plan without individual mandate if they wish.  Pretty straight forward to me. 
Title: Re: Recent USA Today Poll 49-40 in favour of health care plan
Post by: shootfighter1 on March 25, 2010, 01:32:51 PM
kc, that is much different than the other polls I have seen the last couple days.  They probably need a larger sample size to get a more accurate assessment.
Title: Re: Recent USA Today Poll 49-40 in favour of health care plan
Post by: Dos Equis on March 25, 2010, 01:39:24 PM
Block what?  They can OPT OUT.  It's right in the bill.  Any state that wants to can opt out and start their own plan without individual mandate if they wish.  Pretty straight forward to me. 

One example: 

"Some states are also looking at other ways to avoid participating in the overhaul. Virginia and Idaho have passed legislation aimed at blocking the bill's insurance requirement from taking effect, and the Republican-led Legislature in Florida is trying to put a constitutional amendment on the ballot to ask voters to exempt the state from the federal law's requirements."

If it's as simple as you say, then the court fights should be over pretty quickly.  I doubt that happens. 
Title: Re: Recent USA Today Poll 49-40 in favour of health care plan
Post by: 240 is Back on March 25, 2010, 01:59:07 PM
So 80+% disapproval raating last week.

rasmussen (VERY conservative poll) has it all the way down to 55% repeal polling now.

let's use our brains... obama spends the next 2 weeks touring stadiums talking about the great beenfits of this bill, and, what will happen?

(Quick: Predict public opinion will suddenly reverse back up to 80% negative, so you can be wrong, again).


As soon as repubs put their ego in the fvcking pocket and admit obama is a worthly political adversary, they can begin to get to work on defeating him.  Right now, they (and many here) are in denial.  Obama just dedicated 1/6 of all americans' labor and $ to his goals - permanenty.  That is a prety huge deal.  he didn't get that done by being lucky.
Title: Re: Recent USA Today Poll 49-40 in favour of health care plan
Post by: BM OUT on March 25, 2010, 02:15:41 PM
So 80+% disapproval raating last week.

rasmussen (VERY conservative poll) has it all the way down to 55% repeal polling now.

let's use our brains... obama spends the next 2 weeks touring stadiums talking about the great beenfits of this bill, and, what will happen?

(Quick: Predict public opinion will suddenly reverse back up to 80% negative, so you can be wrong, again).


As soon as repubs put their ego in the fvcking pocket and admit obama is a worthly political adversary, they can begin to get to work on defeating him.  Right now, they (and many here) are in denial.  Obama just dedicated 1/6 of all americans' labor and $ to his goals - permanenty.  That is a prety huge deal.  he didn't get that done by being lucky.

He got it done because republicans couldnt stop him.They didnt have the votes.You keep acting like he overcame great odds by passing this.This isnt like Reagan getting his tax cut plan by democrat controlled houses.This is a democrat with super majorities in both houses.You keep acting like Obama is a wiz kid because he got something passed that republicans cant stop.

By the way,Obamas speeches dont persuade people as has been proven by his utter failures in New Jersey and Mass.Its old news.He is stale.He can barely get his own liberal party to follow him.
Title: Re: Recent USA Today Poll 49-40 in favour of health care plan
Post by: 240 is Back on March 25, 2010, 02:23:53 PM
okay BILLY.

When he convinces dems to take unpopular positions on cap/trade and amnesty, and those pass too... keep on claiming the moral victory.

In the meantime, his POS agenda will be complete and he'll STILL be swimming at 50% approval.
Title: Re: Recent USA Today Poll 49-40 in favour of health care plan
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 25, 2010, 02:25:14 PM
okay BILLY.

When he convinces dems to take unpopular positions on cap/trade and amnesty, and those pass too... keep on claiming the moral victory.

In the meantime, his POS agenda will be complete and he'll STILL be swimming at 50% approval.

Yeah cuz when Ras calls up 240 at home, 240 is telling Ras how much 240 loves MAOBAMA. 
Title: Re: Recent USA Today Poll 49-40 in favour of health care plan
Post by: tonymctones on March 25, 2010, 04:28:29 PM
Block what?  They can OPT OUT.  It's right in the bill.  Any state that wants to can opt out and start their own plan without individual mandate if they wish.  Pretty straight forward to me. 
no they cant...b/c any federal tax they pay will be paid into this as well...also the states plan has to cover the regulations in the bill it just may do it in a different way...part of that regulation is that every person will have to have insurance so even if a state enacts its own pool their constituents will still be required by the federal bill and therefor by the state bill to buy insurance... ::)