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The idea that peope gain fat because they eat too many calories is a flawed notion that needs to be put to rest. There is no such thing as an "empty calorie," there are, however, macronutrients that provide 4-9 calories per gram, that when consumed at inappropriate timing, cannot be utilized. The concept that the body cannot consume X amount of calories based on factors Y and Z is an untrue one that was popularized by people trying to sell simplistic diet plans based off of calorie counting. The only way that the body can store fat is through unutilized macronutrients, because of improper timing. To adequately gauge how many calories one should be consuming, spend a week logging macronutrient intake and ultimately average the calories provided by the macronutrients at the end of the week. Most people need a lot less calories than they have been conditioned by pseudo-nutritionists using the Harris-Benedict formula to push their diet plan. Consider this, a natural 200lb bodybuilder who engages in heavy and intense resistance training 4 days per week needs 1gram of protein per 3-4pounds of bodyweight. This averages about 57 grams per day which will provide 228 calories per day from protein alone. Most people, tricked by supplement company and diet plan scammers would believe that this man needs 3,000 or more calories per day to build muscle when in reality he does not need more than 1500-2000.
Bottom line: muscle building while staying lean is about macronutrient intake. Forget the calories and analyze your macronutrient needs.
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How about this. You take a picture today and follow a 6,000 calorie a day diet of your Macro nutrient choice and then come back with a picture in a month so we can see your progress.
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How about this. You take a picture today and follow a 6,000 calorie a day diet of your Macro nutrient choice and then come back with a picture in a month so we can see your progress.
Why would I want to store roughly 4,000 calories per day as fat?
Before you embarass yourself, you should go through my post history because in a few previous posts I list my credentials. To save you the time, though, I'll let you know that I hold a Masters in Exercise Science and 2 Nationally Recognized PT Certifications (including the CSCS). Rather than posting eye-rolling emoticons, you're going to need 6+ years of higher level education for me to take you seriously.
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Why would I want to store roughly 4,000 calories per day as fat?
Before you embarass yourself, you should go through my post history because in a few previous posts I list my credentials. To save you the time, though, I'll let you know that I hold a Masters in Exercise Science and 2 Nationally Recognized PT Certifications (including the CSCS). Rather than posting eye-rolling emoticons, you're going to need 6+ years of higher level education for me to take you seriously.
Here is what you posted: "The idea that peope gain fat because they eat too many calories is a flawed notion that needs to be put to rest."
So since you don`t think eating too many calories will lead to fat gain, lets try an experiment as I laid out. 6000 calories of any Macro Nutrient combination of your choosing for a month. How about it?
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Here is what you posted: "The idea that peope gain fat because they eat too many calories is a flawed notion that needs to be put to rest."
So since you don`t think eating too many calories will lead to fat gain, lets try an experiment as I laid out. 6000 calories of any Macro Nutrient combination of your choosing for a month. How about it?
Clearly you did not read my post, or lack the proper reading comprehension skills (as a result of improper or inadequate education, or lack thereof) to understand my post. Pseudo-nutritionists and "gurus" with products and diet plans to sell push the notion that excess calories are the culprit in fat gain - or on the other end of the scope, that one needs 3,000 or more calories with an absurd quantity of protein to gain muscle mass. Macronutrients contain 4-9 calories per gram and unutilized macronutrients are stored in the form of lipid, not simply "excess calories" since that notion is inherently flawed.
Its obvious to me you lack the level of education to debate this concept with me. I have spent 6 years of my life in undergraduate and post-graduate educational programs earning my credentials in Exercise Science. Your low level of reading comprehension and inability to grasp basic concepts of human nutrition lead me to conclude that you are nothing more than an internet forum guru, devoid of any knowledge or education - let alone respectable credentials.
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another nobody trying to re-invent the wheel
and dude...
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another nobody trying to re-invent the wheel
and dude...
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??? ???
what field do you hold your masters in?
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what field do you hold your masters in?
you were obviously ripped off.
Im pretty sure you're just a gimmick/troll though.
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Clearly you did not read my post, or lack the proper reading comprehension skills (as a result of improper or inadequate education, or lack thereof) to understand my post. Pseudo-nutritionists and "gurus" with products and diet plans to sell push the notion that excess calories are the culprit in fat gain - or on the other end of the scope, that one needs 3,000 or more calories with an absurd quantity of protein to gain muscle mass. Macronutrients contain 4-9 calories per gram and unutilized macronutrients are stored in the form of lipid, not simply "excess calories" since that notion is inherently flawed.
Its obvious to me you lack the level of education to debate this concept with me. I have spent 6 years of my life in undergraduate and post-graduate educational programs earning my credentials in Exercise Science. Your low level of reading comprehension and inability to grasp basic concepts of human nutrition lead me to conclude that you are nothing more than an internet forum guru, devoid of any knowledge or education - let alone respectable credentials.
In your opinion, what is the best type of Wood Stain for a medium sized project? I`m building a Rosewood Bookcase and want something that won`t be too light but, just dark enough so that the wood grain is visible from about 10 feet.
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The idea that peope gain fat because they eat too many calories is a flawed notion that needs to be put to rest. There is no such thing as an "empty calorie," there are, however, macronutrients that provide 4-9 calories per gram, that when consumed at inappropriate timing, cannot be utilized. The concept that the body cannot consume X amount of calories based on factors Y and Z is an untrue one that was popularized by people trying to sell simplistic diet plans based off of calorie counting. The only way that the body can store fat is through unutilized macronutrients, because of improper timing. To adequately gauge how many calories one should be consuming, spend a week logging macronutrient intake and ultimately average the calories provided by the macronutrients at the end of the week. Most people need a lot less calories than they have been conditioned by pseudo-nutritionists using the Harris-Benedict formula to push their diet plan. Consider this, a natural 200lb bodybuilder who engages in heavy and intense resistance training 4 days per week needs 1gram of protein per 3-4pounds of bodyweight. This averages about 57 grams per day which will provide 228 calories per day from protein alone. Most people, tricked by supplement company and diet plan scammers would believe that this man needs 3,000 or more calories per day to build muscle when in reality he does not need more than 1500-2000.
Bottom line: muscle building while staying lean is about macronutrient intake. Forget the calories and analyze your macronutrient needs.
Please, oh please, enlighten us to the "proper" timing. ::)
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HugeRipped singlehandedly changing sports nutrition in a single post :D
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Skinnysoft Hugeripped thinks having some education actually means more than actually possessing a respectable physique. Boy, is he a dumbfuk :D
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In your opinion, what is the best type of Wood Stain for a medium sized project? I`m building a Rosewood Bookcase and want something that won`t be too light but, just dark enough so that the wood grain is visible from about 10 feet.
;D
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Skinnysoft Hugeripped thinks having some education actually means more than actually possessing a respectable physique. Boy, is he a dumbfuk :D
i would debate that he has an education too if he thinks that calories don't count.
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Please, oh please, enlighten us to the "proper" timing. ::)
There is an infinite amount of times when excess macronutrients cannot be utilized and will be stored as fat, It is important to understand that during any time of food consumption, macronutrient intake beyond the individual's utilization abilities will catalyze the body's lipid storage process. There are a few key times, though, that are directly related to a bodybuilder's diet that I will mention.
1. Immediate post-workout nutrition for the natural bodybuilder in which protein intake exceeds 10-20 grams and carbohydrate intake exceeds 30-40 grams.
2. A natural bodybuilder that consumes more than 1 gram of protein per 3-4lbs of bodyweight.
3. A natural bodybuilder consuming more than ~35 grams of carbohydrates less than 3 hours before going to sleep.
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There is an infinite amount of times when excess macronutrients cannot be utilized and will be stored as fat, It is important to understand that during any time of food consumption, macronutrient intake beyond the individual's utilization abilities will catalyze the body's lipid storage process. There are a few key times, though, that are directly related to a bodybuilder's diet that I will mention.
1. Immediate post-workout nutrition for the natural bodybuilder in which protein intake exceeds 10-20 grams and carbohydrate intake exceeds 30-40 grams.
2. A natural bodybuilder that consumes more than 1 gram of protein per 3-4lbs of bodyweight.
3. A natural bodybuilder consuming more than ~35 grams of carbohydrates less than 3 hours before going to sleep.
HR,
How do you account for those people who eat fast food and junk and still stay ripped?
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Can you say overanalyse?
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HR,
How do you account for those people who eat fast food and junk and still stay ripped?
Genetically high levels of testosterone combined with low levels of cortisol having a synergistic effect on increased metabolic rate. Furthermore, most of these people consume far less calories on a weekly average than one might generally assume. These types of people may appear to be an anomaly but upon further analyzation of their average dietary patterns, their low levels of bodyfat are easily accounted for. Generally, said demographic eats only 1-2 meals per day, even if it is a fast food binge, they are generally young males consuming only 1300-1900 calories per day - well within the range of an average young man to stay lean. Factor in genetic predisposition toward greater macronutrient utilization, weekly caloric intake averages being much lower than the days of their fast food binges and high hormonal levels as a function of age it is easy to understand their physiology.
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Genetically high levels of testosterone combined with low levels of cortisol having a synergistic effect on increased metabolic rate. Furthermore, most of these people consume far less calories on a weekly average than one might generally assume. These types of people may appear to be an anomaly but upon further analyzation of their average dietary patterns, their low levels of bodyfat are easily accounted for. Generally, said demographic eats only 1-2 meals per day, even if it is a fast food binge, they are generally young males consuming only 1300-1900 calories per day - well within the range of an average young man to stay lean. Factor in genetic predisposition toward greater macronutrient utilization, weekly caloric intake averages being much lower than the days of their fast food binges and high hormonal levels as a function of age it is easy to understand their physiology.
So you're saying that overall calories do matter..... :D
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So you're saying that overall calories do matter..... :D
Calories come from macronutrients that have 4-9 cals per gram. I spoke in terms of calories in that post since the typical person that eats 1-2 meals of fast food per day has no interest in exercise science or human physiology so their macronutrient intake is totally invalid. If you completely read my post, you would see that I noted that these types of people have a genetic predisposition toward greater macronutrient utilization - that being the ultimate factor in fat gains.
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Calories come from macronutrients that have 4-9 cals per gram. I spoke in terms of calories in that post since the typical person that eats 1-2 meals of fast food per day has no interest in exercise science or human physiology so their macronutrient intake is totally invalid. If you completely read my post, you would see that I noted that these types of people have a genetic predisposition toward greater macronutrient utilization - that being the ultimate factor in fat gains.
So, you're saying that a person interested in exercise and his body composition, a bodybuilder for example that has a greater macronutrient utilization and an increased metabolic rate could careless about timing and just focus on overall calories.....
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Hugeripped = Nutsack
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So, you're saying that a person interested in exercise and bodycomposition or a bodybuilder that has a greater macronutrient utilization and an increased metabolic rate could careless about timing and just focus on overall calories?
No, and your lack of reading comprehension is a major red flag that you have no formal education. Nonetheless, I will humor your ignorance one last time in the hope that you will actually learn something related to functional human physiology and nutrition.
What I have repeatedly said is that "excess calories" is an invalid and nonsensical term and do not dictate lipid storage. Calories come from macronutrients. When macronutrients cannot be utilized because 1) they exceed the body's overall capabilities of utilization (i.e. too much protein per day, too many simple sugar carbohydrates at night, etc.) or 2) external factors prevent total utilization (i.e. consuming more than 20g protein post workout) than said macronutrients are stored by the body as fat. Anyone looking to build lean muscle while maintaing a low bodyfat should ignore the "excess calories" concept and simply focus on counting their macronutrient intake per meal, per day and per week. Most bodybuilders do have greater macronutrient utilization capabilities as a result of anabolic steroid, insulin and peptide usage. This simply means they should adjust their macronutrient values toward increased utilization capablities.
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No, and your lack of reading comprehension is a major red flag that you have no formal education. Nonetheless, I will humor your ignorance one last time in the hope that you will actually learn something related to functional human physiology and nutrition.
Don't you realize I was trying to make fun of you too and show how you were contradicting yourself? ;)
What I have repeatedly said is that "excess calories" is an invalid and nonsensical term and do not dictate lipid storage. Calories come from macronutrients. When macronutrients cannot be utilized because 1) they exceed the body's overall capabilities of utilization (i.e. too much protein per day, too many simple sugar carbohydrates at night, etc.) or 2) external factors prevent total utilization (i.e. consuming more than 20g protein post workout) than said macronutrients are stored by the body as fat. Anyone looking to build lean muscle while maintaing a low bodyfat should ignore the "excess calories" concept and simply focus on counting their macronutrient intake per meal, per day and per week. Most bodybuilders do have greater macronutrient utilization capabilities as a result of anabolic steroid, insulin and peptide usage. This simply means they should adjust their macronutrient values toward increased utilization capablities.
1. Can't you realize that by controlling your macronutrient intake, you're also controlling your calorie intake? As you said calories come from macronutrients. Since you recommend such little food intake for muscle building, you're basically keeping a calorie controled diet too.
2. What about people that eat some of your "forbidden" foods at not optimal times as you say, but stay lean?
You will say they have an increased metabolic rate or a better macronutrient utilization right? Which basically throws your absolute "theory" out of the window since it shows dieting is really individual.
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There is an infinite amount of times when excess macronutrients cannot be utilized and will be stored as fat, It is important to understand that during any time of food consumption, macronutrient intake beyond the individual's utilization abilities will catalyze the body's lipid storage process. There are a few key times, though, that are directly related to a bodybuilder's diet that I will mention.
1. Immediate post-workout nutrition for the natural bodybuilder in which protein intake exceeds 10-20 grams and carbohydrate intake exceeds 30-40 grams.
2. A natural bodybuilder that consumes more than 1 gram of protein per 3-4lbs of bodyweight.
3. A natural bodybuilder consuming more than ~35 grams of carbohydrates less than 3 hours before going to sleep.
Please provide your peer reviewed sources of these facts
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Don't you realize I was trying to make fun of you too and show how you were contradicting yourself? ;)
1. Can't you realize that by controlling your macronutrient intake, you're also controlling your calorie intake? As you said calories come from macronutrients. Since you recommend such little food intake for muscle building, you're basically keeping a calorie controled diet too.
2. What about people that eat some of your "forbidden" foods at not optimal times as you say, but stay lean?
You will say they have an increased metabolic rate or a better macronutrient utilization right? Which basically throws your absolute "theory" out of the window since it shows dieting is really individual.
I never once contradicted myself. If it seems like that to you, then it is a direct function of your low level reading comprehension.
1) Obviously macronutrient regulation synergistically effects calorie consumption. My point is that the claim of "excess calories are the primary factor in fat gains" is untrue, it is unutilized macronutrients stored as fat.
2) My "theory" is based off of countless peer reviewed studies and six years of higher level education at both an undergraduate and post-graduate level. Some people have a greater tendency to fat storage, some a greater tendency toward nutrient utilization but ultimately, our physiology is very similar and the same guidelines apply to almost everyone.
You clearly are unable to understand the very simplistic foundation of human nutrition that I have laid out in my posts. I suggest saving my posts on your computer and then attending an undergraduate program in either Dietics and Nutrition or Exercise Science. Upon earning your Bachelor's, you can reread my posts with the academic competency to understand the concepts within.
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There is an infinite amount of times when excess macronutrients cannot be utilized and will be stored as fat, It is important to understand that during any time of food consumption, macronutrient intake beyond the individual's utilization abilities will catalyze the body's lipid storage process. There are a few key times, though, that are directly related to a bodybuilder's diet that I will mention.
1. Immediate post-workout nutrition for the natural bodybuilder in which protein intake exceeds 10-20 grams and carbohydrate intake exceeds 30-40 grams.
2. A natural bodybuilder that consumes more than 1 gram of protein per 3-4lbs of bodyweight.
3. A natural bodybuilder consuming more than ~35 grams of carbohydrates less than 3 hours before going to sleep.
i am natural and on a cut...i eat 2000-2200 cals/day
i eat 600 of those calories within 4 hours of going to bed...and the other 500 an hour before bed
i workout at night...the whole carbs before bed doesn't fucking matter when in a deficit
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1) Obviously macronutrient regulation synergistically effects calorie consumption. My point is that the claim of "excess calories are the primary factor in fat gains" is untrue, it is unutilized macronutrients stored as fat.
Unutilized macronutrients = unutilized calories.
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I read the first post and don't understand what the point is.
If you eat too much, you'll get fat.
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i am natural and on a cut...i eat 2000-2200 cals/day
i eat 600 of those calories within 4 hours of going to bed...and the other 500 an hour before bed
i workout at night...the whole carbs before bed doesn't fucking matter when in a deficit
Its not the calories one eats before they go to sleep, its which macronutrients those calories are coming from. You stated that you workout at night, thus your carbohydrate utilization at that time is different from someone who works out in the morning. Perhaps you do not understand the role that carbohydrates play in the human body. I suggest picking up an Intro to Human Nutrition textbook and reading the chapter on macronutrients before posting again.
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I read the first post and don't understand what the point is.
If you eat too much, you'll get fat.
i'm 100% sure this guy is either :
a) a gimmick
b) a retard
c) both
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Its not the calories one eats before they go to sleep, its which macronutrients those calories are coming from. You stated that you workout at night, thus your carbohydrate utilization at that time is different from someone who works out in the morning. Perhaps you do not understand the role that carbohydrates play in the human body. I suggest picking up an Intro to Human Nutrition textbook and reading the chapter on macronutrients before posting again.
1 hour before bed:
12oz skim w/ chocolate syrup
1 heaping scoop whey concentrate
12oz apple or orange juice
couple pieces of dark chocolate
and i suggest you take a look at my bodyfat and weight reduction every week
before telling me to read a book
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1 hour before bed:
12oz skim w/ chocolate syrup
1 heaping scoop whey concentrate
12oz apple or orange juice
couple pieces of dark chocolate
and i suggest you take a look at my bodyfat and weight reduction every week
before telling me to read a book
Yet another uneducated internet forum warrior compensating for their lack of credentials by trying to argue with facts.
Let me try to dumb this down for you as much as possible. The average person that does not work out at night cannot utilize more than ~35g carbohydrates within 3 hours of sleep without excess lipid storage. You work out at night, thus your carbohydrate utilization is radically different from the typical example as a result of post-workout anabolism. It is clear to me that you do not understand the role that carbohydrates play in the human body. I suggest doing some simple research on human nutrition to develop a better understanding of the purpose of carbohydrates.
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i'm 100% sure this guy is either :
a) a gimmick
b) a retard
c) both
i'm 100% sure this guy is either :
a) a tbombz gimmick
b) a retard, tbombz same same
c) homosexual, tbombz same same
twinkie jail butt aids spreading bottom boy, tbombz all homos same same
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All I really want in life is to get laid steadily.
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You had me at Un-Unitilized, Jeremy Bentham.
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Why would I want to store roughly 4,000 calories per day as fat?
Before you embarass yourself, you should go through my post history because in a few previous posts I list my credentials. To save you the time, though, I'll let you know that I hold a Masters in Exercise Science and 2 Nationally Recognized PT Certifications (including the CSCS). Rather than posting eye-rolling emoticons, you're going to need 6+ years of higher level education for me to take you seriously.
if you were so educated, why would you post this rubbish? ..ill see you and raise you a bachelors degree. so far all of your posts have been mediocre at best and also let me tell you that any PT cert is hardly worth citing as a "credential". makes me wonder what your "masters" really is when you mention the PT certs alongside it...
oh, and 6 years study...you must mean part time. please dont try to big up yourself. you come off looking like an idiot.
hope this helps.
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if you were so educated, why would you post this rubbish? ..ill see you and raise you a bachelors degree. so far all of your posts have been mediocre at best and also let me tell you that any PT cert is hardly worth citing as a "credential". makes me wonder what your "masters" really is when you mention the PT certs alongside it...
oh, and 6 years study...you must mean part time. please dont try to big up yourself. you come off looking like an idiot.
hope this helps.
not to side with the gimmick but you do realise a masters is higher than a bachelors ?
he is an idiot though ;D
and he may mean he is a master-bator.
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if you were so educated, why would you post this rubbish? ..ill see you and raise you a bachelors degree. so far all of your posts have been mediocre at best and also let me tell you that any PT cert is hardly worth citing as a "credential". makes me wonder what your "masters" really is when you mention the PT certs alongside it...
oh, and 6 years study...you must mean part time. please dont try to big up yourself. you come off looking like an idiot.
hope this helps.
I don't think you understand what a Master's degree requires. I agree most personal training certifications are a joke, however, none of the ones that I hold are. I suggest you look into the requirements for the CSCS and just how well respected that certification is in the fitness industry.
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I don't think you understand what a Master's degree requires. I agree most personal training certifications are a joke, however, none of the ones that I hold are. I suggest you look into the requirements for the CSCS and just how well respected that certification is in the fitness industry.
HR,
Slightly off topic, but...
What is your take on the leg extension? Worth doing for anyone ( athlete, bodybuilder, novice lifter , etc.) or ditch it for a "Better bang for your buck" exercise?
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Consider this, a natural 200lb bodybuilder who engages in heavy and intense resistance training 4 days per week needs 1gram of protein per 3-4pounds of bodyweight. This averages about 57 grams per day which will provide 228 calories per day from protein alone. Most people, tricked by supplement company and diet plan scammers would believe that this man needs 3,000 or more calories per day to build muscle when in reality he does not need more than 1500-2000.
No bodybuilder at 200 lbs is going to put on muscle consuming 1500 calories per day.
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i hate to ruin this for everyone but, hugeripped is kiwiol's gimmick to mock supposed guru's who look like they dont train..
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Listen up peoples me man HugeRipped iz tryna tell youz about how to get muscle and dem thingz. He iz massive ripped aight.
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You had me at Un-Unitilized, Jeremy Bentham.
LOL. Penopticon! ;D
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Falcon approved.
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i'm 100% sure this guy is either :
a) a tbombz gimmick
b) a retard, tbombz same same
c) homosexual, tbombz same same
twinkie jail butt aids spreading bottom boy, tbombz all homos same same
why would it be my gimmick? lmao you arent the sharpest tool in the shed..
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Falcon approved.
jonny looking good with his jay cutler hairdo !
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During the week when I'm much more busy it's hard to make time to sit down and eat. I'd really like to just eat one meal a day prefereably just before sleeping because eating it relaxes me. I need about 3000 calories a day just to maintain my approximate 190lbs of bodyweight. I'm a very simple person so I don't understand how this nutritional timing works. What would happen if right before bed I down a 60 gram shake of whey isolate (240 calories) and a half of gallon of chocolate icre cream (2,280 calories) and it's my one and only meal per day?
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jonny looking good with his jay cutler hairdo !
Is that current? Is the Falcon ever going to make a return here?
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HugeRipped, do you have any photos of people who have followed your advice? Any photos of your ripped self?
If not, shut your fucking mouth!
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Is that current? Is the Falcon ever going to make a return here?
Yea from Matt C's site. I dont think he will recover.
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During the week when I'm much more busy it's hard to make time to sit down and eat. I'd really like to just eat one meal a day prefereably just before sleeping because eating it relaxes me. I need about 3000 calories a day just to maintain my approximate 190lbs of bodyweight. I'm a very simple person so I don't understand how this nutritional timing works. What would happen if right before bed I down a 60 gram shake of whey isolate (240 calories) and a half of gallon of chocolate icre cream (2,280 calories) and it's my one and only meal per day?
How often do you eat a pro shake and 1/2 gal choc ice cream before bed?
How do you stay so ripped eating that?
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The idea that peope gain fat because they eat too many calories is a flawed notion that needs to be put to rest. There is no such thing as an "empty calorie," there are, however, macronutrients that provide 4-9 calories per gram, that when consumed at inappropriate timing, cannot be utilized. The concept that the body cannot consume X amount of calories based on factors Y and Z is an untrue one that was popularized by people trying to sell simplistic diet plans based off of calorie counting. The only way that the body can store fat is through unutilized macronutrients, because of improper timing. To adequately gauge how many calories one should be consuming, spend a week logging macronutrient intake and ultimately average the calories provided by the macronutrients at the end of the week. Most people need a lot less calories than they have been conditioned by pseudo-nutritionists using the Harris-Benedict formula to push their diet plan. Consider this, a natural 200lb bodybuilder who engages in heavy and intense resistance training 4 days per week needs 1gram of protein per 3-4pounds of bodyweight. This averages about 57 grams per day which will provide 228 calories per day from protein alone. Most people, tricked by supplement company and diet plan scammers would believe that this man needs 3,000 or more calories per day to build muscle when in reality he does not need more than 1500-2000.
Bottom line: muscle building while staying lean is about macronutrient intake. Forget the calories and analyze your macronutrient needs.
u are a good troll, give u that
But if you are genuine why does your physique suck so much?
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How often do you eat a pro shake and 1/2 gal choc ice cream before bed?
How do you stay so ripped eating that?
It's a hypothetical. Even though the majority of my calories come from ice cream it's still at a caloric deficit. How important is nutrional timing when you are on a caloric deficit? Since I'll be going to sleep after eating ice cream does it all turn to fat over night and then I burn this fat during the next day?
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It's a hypothetical. Even though the majority of my calories come from ice cream it's still at a caloric deficit. How important is nutrional timing when you are on a caloric deficit? Since I'll be going to sleep after eating ice cream does it all turn to fat over night and then I burn this fat during the next day?
It doesn;t all turn to fat but you will def store some of it as fat because when you come off of a "fast" your body will store some as fat as a survival mechinism as your body doesn't know when it will be given food again. Thats why its so impt to eat breakfast- because you have been fasting the last 8-10 hrs.
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HR,
Slightly off topic, but...
What is your take on the leg extension? Worth doing for anyone ( athlete, bodybuilder, novice lifter , etc.) or ditch it for a "Better bang for your buck" exercise?
The leg extension is an ergonomic nightmare. Weight loaded at the ankle while straightening the leg is simply a knee injury waiting to happen. 3-4 sets Front squats or back squats every 7 days is enough to stimulate quadricep growth in the natural bodybuilder.
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The leg extension is an ergonomic nightmare. Weight loaded at the ankle while straightening the leg is simply a knee injury waiting to happen. 3-4 sets Front squats or back squats every 7 days is enough to stimulate quadricep growth in the natural bodybuilder.
Perhaps you can clear this up then....
Why does the CSCS, which you claim is a HIGHLY respected certification, have a an image of a girl ( I think) performing a leg extension on their webpage with a CSCS qualified practitioner "spotting" her lol.
LOL! Is this the "respected image" such a renown organization wishes to brand it's self with?? LOL
Please discuss: http://www.nsca-cc.org/about_cred/cscs.html (http://www.nsca-cc.org/about_cred/cscs.html)
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How about this. You take a picture today and follow a 6,000 calorie a day diet of your Macro nutrient choice and then come back with a picture in a month so we can see your progress.
Exactly... hahaha
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Perhaps you can clear this up then....
Why does the CSCS, which you claim is a HIGHLY respected certification, have a an image of a girl ( I think) performing a leg extension on their webpage with a CSCS qualified practitioner "spotting" her lol.
LOL! Is this the "respected image" such a renown organization wishes to brand it's self with?? LOL
Please discuss: http://www.nsca-cc.org/about_cred/cscs.html (http://www.nsca-cc.org/about_cred/cscs.html)
Its an advertisement, nothing more. There is no worthwhile certification that insists that their trainers follow certain exercises no matter, they simply provide both the human physiology and exercise science knowledge to possess the competency to recommend or discourage the inclusion of certain exercises in a workout program. If you don't think that the CSCS is the most highly esteemed certification in the field then 1) take a look at the basic requirements to even take the test and 2) ask anybody in the fitness field what training certification is the most respected.
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Its an advertisement, nothing more. There is no worthwhile certification that insists that their trainers follow certain exercises no matter, they simply provide both the human physiology and exercise science knowledge to possess the competency to recommend or discourage the inclusion of certain exercises in a workout program. If you don't think that the CSCS is the most highly esteemed certification in the field then 1) take a look at the basic requirements to even take the test and 2) ask anybody in the fitness field what training certification is the most respected.
I actually think its a joke and VASTLY sub-optimal info. Yes I've seen the requirements ( have a college diploma-BIG DEAL!)- and if you ask someone like yourself who was educated in an academic curricula in this county they will most likely be brainwashed into believeing that it is the "Gold Standard" - nothing could bee further from the truth. I took and PASSED the CSCS back in 2001 and was the biggest waste of time and energy ever.
The academic curricula in exercise science and physiology from American Instutitions are not even in the same galaxy of usefulness as those from sports science academies and institutes overseas.
There is ZERO carryover from what you learn in the practicee material/examination to real life program design.
Do you even know who is responsible for establishing and why they established the CSCS?
As far as a superior method of training certification, go with the certification that www.westside-barbell.com offers.
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It doesn;t all turn to fat but you will def store some of it as fat because when you come off of a "fast" your body will store some as fat as a survival mechinism as your body doesn't know when it will be given food again. Thats why its so impt to eat breakfast- because you have been fasting the last 8-10 hrs.
So will I gain weight or lose weight?
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Huge Ripped, I think your Masters is being "Un-unitilized" here, perhaps you should continue to focus on creating protologisms instead?
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So will I gain weight or lose weight?
I honestly don't know, either could happen.
You do realize it is POSSIBLE to GAIN fat yet still LOSE weight at the same time , don't you?
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Calories come from macronutrients that have 4-9 cals per gram. I spoke in terms of calories in that post since the typical person that eats 1-2 meals of fast food per day has no interest in exercise science or human physiology so their macronutrient intake is totally invalid. If you completely read my post, you would see that I noted that these types of people have a genetic predisposition toward greater macronutrient utilization - that being the ultimate factor in fat gains.
Actually macronutrients come in forms that have 0-9 cals per gram there stud. But I guess they didn't teach that in your Masters Program. And if its hard to "comprehend" your posts, it's hard to comprehend shitty writing and sentence structure.
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Yet another uneducated internet forum warrior compensating for their lack of credentials by trying to argue with facts.
Let me try to dumb this down for you as much as possible. The average person that does not work out at night cannot utilize more than ~35g carbohydrates within 3 hours of sleep without excess lipid storage. You work out at night, thus your carbohydrate utilization is radically different from the typical example as a result of post-workout anabolism. It is clear to me that you do not understand the role that carbohydrates play in the human body. I suggest doing some simple research on human nutrition to develop a better understanding of the purpose of carbohydrates.
even if i worked out first thing in the morning, yet ate the same calories/macros in the evening as i do now, i would still burn
fat like i am now....
oh yeah, a degree in exercise science is nothing to brag about...i have had 4 exercise science graduates work for me in the last 5 years as sales people because
they cannot get jobs in their industry....and an exercise science degree is not a difficult degree to get...no harder than general degrees like education, managment, etc
you are not as special as you seem to think, and give it up with trying to down talk everyone, you didn't graduate at MIT for fuck sake
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even if i worked out first thing in the morning, yet ate the same calories/macros in the evening as i do now, i would still burn
fat like i am now....
oh yeah, a degree in exercise science is nothing to brag about...i have had 4 exercise science graduates work for me in the last 5 years as sales people because
they cannot get jobs in their industry....and an exercise science degree is not a difficult degree to get...no harder than general degrees like education, managment, etc
you are not as special as you seem to think, and give it up with trying to down talk everyone, you didn't graduate at MIT for fuck sake
Your post goes to illustrate your severe level of ignorance in relation to exercise science and foundations of basic human nutrition. Macronutrient processing is vastly different in the hours directly post-workout than during the course of the rest of the day. If you engage in resistance training and/or cardiovascular activity at night, you will have increased carbohydrate metabolism, exponentially more than one who worked out 8 hours prior. Again, it appears that you do not understand the role of carbohydrates in the human body.
Furthermore, I earned my master's in one of the most prestigious and competitive post-graduate exercise science programs in the country. I do not suggest that you attempt to challenge my academic credentials, lest you embarass yourself even further.
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I honestly don't know, either could happen.
You do realize it is POSSIBLE to GAIN fat yet still LOSE weight at the same time , don't you?
no its not, you meant "gain fat and lose muscle"
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Your post goes to illustrate your severe level of ignorance in relation to exercise science and foundations of basic human nutrition. Macronutrient processing is vastly different in the hours directly post-workout than during the course of the rest of the day. If you engage in resistance training and/or cardiovascular activity at night, you will have increased carbohydrate metabolism, exponentially more than one who worked out 8 hours prior. Again, it appears that you do not understand the role of carbohydrates in the human body.
Furthermore, I earned my master's in one of the most prestigious and competitive post-graduate exercise science programs in the country. I do not suggest that you attempt to challenge my academic credentials, lest you embarass yourself even further.
i agree with the utilization of macros post exercise vs with no exercise...this is obvious
but with a daily intake of x amount of calories, i will still lose the same amount of fat regardless of timing(when in overall deficit)
i hate to say it, but i do agree with most of what you say, but your cockiness is ridiculous...you earned a masters in exercise science, get off
your fucking soap box dude
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Your post goes to illustrate your severe level of ignorance in relation to exercise science and foundations of basic human nutrition. Macronutrient processing is vastly different in the hours directly post-workout than during the course of the rest of the day. If you engage in resistance training and/or cardiovascular activity at night, you will have increased carbohydrate metabolism, exponentially more than one who worked out 8 hours prior. Again, it appears that you do not understand the role of carbohydrates in the human body.
Furthermore, I earned my master's in one of the most prestigious and competitive post-graduate exercise science programs in the country. I do not suggest that you attempt to challenge my academic credentials, lest you embarass yourself even further.
How is it that you never tell people where this "masters" was from? In addition, how is it that you couldnt get the name of the damn thread correct but continue to spout off about your intelligence?
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Hugeripped = funniest gimmick/poster of all time