There Is No Such Thing As "Excess Calories," Only Un-Unitilized Macronutrients

[HugeRipped]

The idea that peope gain fat because they eat too many calories is a flawed notion that needs to be put to rest. There is no such thing as an "empty calorie," there are, however, macronutrients that provide 4-9 calories per gram, that when consumed at inappropriate timing, cannot be utilized. The concept that the body cannot consume X amount of calories based on factors Y and Z is an untrue one that was popularized by people trying to sell simplistic diet plans based off of calorie counting. The only way that the body can store fat is through unutilized macronutrients, because of improper timing. To adequately gauge how many calories one should be consuming, spend a week logging macronutrient intake and ultimately average the calories provided by the macronutrients at the end of the week. Most people need a lot less calories than they have been conditioned by pseudo-nutritionists using the Harris-Benedict formula to push their diet plan. Consider this, a natural 200lb bodybuilder who engages in heavy and intense resistance training 4 days per week needs 1gram of protein per 3-4pounds of bodyweight. This averages about 57 grams per day which will provide 228 calories per day from protein alone. Most people, tricked by supplement company and diet plan scammers would believe that this man needs 3,000 or more calories per day to build muscle when in reality he does not need more than 1500-2000.

Bottom line: muscle building while staying lean is about macronutrient intake. Forget the calories and analyze your macronutrient needs.

[Jezebelle]

 
How about this.  You take a picture today and follow a 6,000 calorie a day diet of your Macro nutrient choice and then come back with a picture in a month so we can see your progress.

[HugeRipped]

How about this.  You take a picture today and follow a 6,000 calorie a day diet of your Macro nutrient choice and then come back with a picture in a month so we can see your progress.

Why would I want to store roughly 4,000 calories per day as fat?

Before you embarass yourself, you should go through my post history because in a few previous posts I list my credentials. To save you the time, though, I'll let you know that I hold a Masters in Exercise Science and 2 Nationally Recognized PT Certifications (including the CSCS). Rather than posting eye-rolling emoticons, you're going to need 6+ years of higher level education for me to take you seriously.

[Jezebelle]

Why would I want to store roughly 4,000 calories per day as fat?

Before you embarass yourself, you should go through my post history because in a few previous posts I list my credentials. To save you the time, though, I'll let you know that I hold a Masters in Exercise Science and 2 Nationally Recognized PT Certifications (including the CSCS). Rather than posting eye-rolling emoticons, you're going to need 6+ years of higher level education for me to take you seriously.

Here is what you posted: "The idea that peope gain fat because they eat too many calories is a flawed notion that needs to be put to rest."

So since you don`t think eating too many calories will lead to fat gain, lets try an experiment as I laid out.  6000 calories of any Macro Nutrient combination of your choosing for a month.  How about it?

[HugeRipped]

Here is what you posted: "The idea that peope gain fat because they eat too many calories is a flawed notion that needs to be put to rest."

So since you don`t think eating too many calories will lead to fat gain, lets try an experiment as I laid out.  6000 calories of any Macro Nutrient combination of your choosing for a month.  How about it?

Clearly you did not read my post, or lack the proper reading comprehension skills (as a result of improper or inadequate education, or lack thereof) to understand my post. Pseudo-nutritionists and "gurus" with products and diet plans to sell push the notion that excess calories are the culprit in fat gain - or on the other end of the scope, that one needs 3,000 or more calories with an absurd quantity of protein to gain muscle mass. Macronutrients contain 4-9 calories per gram and unutilized macronutrients are stored in the form of lipid, not simply "excess calories" since that notion is inherently flawed.

Its obvious to me you lack the level of education to debate this concept with me. I have spent 6 years of my life in undergraduate and post-graduate educational programs earning my credentials in Exercise Science. Your low level of reading comprehension and inability to grasp basic concepts of human nutrition lead me to conclude that you are nothing more than an internet forum guru, devoid of any knowledge or education - let alone respectable credentials.

[spinnis]

another nobody trying to re-invent the wheel

and dude...





 

[HugeRipped]

another nobody trying to re-invent the wheel

and dude...





 

what field do you hold your masters in?

[spinnis]

what field do you hold your masters in?

you were obviously ripped off.

Im pretty sure you're just a gimmick/troll though.

[Jezebelle]

Clearly you did not read my post, or lack the proper reading comprehension skills (as a result of improper or inadequate education, or lack thereof) to understand my post. Pseudo-nutritionists and "gurus" with products and diet plans to sell push the notion that excess calories are the culprit in fat gain - or on the other end of the scope, that one needs 3,000 or more calories with an absurd quantity of protein to gain muscle mass. Macronutrients contain 4-9 calories per gram and unutilized macronutrients are stored in the form of lipid, not simply "excess calories" since that notion is inherently flawed.

Its obvious to me you lack the level of education to debate this concept with me. I have spent 6 years of my life in undergraduate and post-graduate educational programs earning my credentials in Exercise Science. Your low level of reading comprehension and inability to grasp basic concepts of human nutrition lead me to conclude that you are nothing more than an internet forum guru, devoid of any knowledge or education - let alone respectable credentials.

In your opinion, what is the best type of Wood Stain for a medium sized project?  I`m building a Rosewood Bookcase and want something that won`t be too light but, just dark enough so that the wood grain is visible from about 10 feet.

[Krankenstein]

The idea that peope gain fat because they eat too many calories is a flawed notion that needs to be put to rest. There is no such thing as an "empty calorie," there are, however, macronutrients that provide 4-9 calories per gram, that when consumed at inappropriate timing, cannot be utilized. The concept that the body cannot consume X amount of calories based on factors Y and Z is an untrue one that was popularized by people trying to sell simplistic diet plans based off of calorie counting. The only way that the body can store fat is through unutilized macronutrients, because of improper timing. To adequately gauge how many calories one should be consuming, spend a week logging macronutrient intake and ultimately average the calories provided by the macronutrients at the end of the week. Most people need a lot less calories than they have been conditioned by pseudo-nutritionists using the Harris-Benedict formula to push their diet plan. Consider this, a natural 200lb bodybuilder who engages in heavy and intense resistance training 4 days per week needs 1gram of protein per 3-4pounds of bodyweight. This averages about 57 grams per day which will provide 228 calories per day from protein alone. Most people, tricked by supplement company and diet plan scammers would believe that this man needs 3,000 or more calories per day to build muscle when in reality he does not need more than 1500-2000.

Bottom line: muscle building while staying lean is about macronutrient intake. Forget the calories and analyze your macronutrient needs.

Please, oh please, enlighten us to the "proper" timing.   

[_bruce_]

HugeRipped singlehandedly changing sports nutrition in a single post 

[Flexb]

Skinnysoft Hugeripped thinks having some education actually means more than actually possessing a respectable physique. Boy, is he a dumbfuk 

[No Patience]

In your opinion, what is the best type of Wood Stain for a medium sized project?  I`m building a Rosewood Bookcase and want something that won`t be too light but, just dark enough so that the wood grain is visible from about 10 feet.

 

[Fatpanda]

Skinnysoft Hugeripped thinks having some education actually means more than actually possessing a respectable physique. Boy, is he a dumbfuk 

i would debate that he has an education too if he thinks that calories don't count.

[HugeRipped]

Please, oh please, enlighten us to the "proper" timing.   

There is an infinite amount of times when excess macronutrients cannot be utilized and will be stored as fat, It is important to understand that during any time of food consumption, macronutrient intake beyond the individual's utilization abilities will catalyze the body's lipid storage process. There are a few key times, though, that are directly related to a bodybuilder's diet that I will mention.

1. Immediate post-workout nutrition for the natural bodybuilder in which protein intake exceeds 10-20 grams and carbohydrate intake exceeds 30-40 grams.
2. A natural bodybuilder that consumes more than 1 gram of protein per 3-4lbs of bodyweight.
3. A natural bodybuilder consuming more than ~35 grams of carbohydrates less than 3 hours before going to sleep.

[Devon97]

There is an infinite amount of times when excess macronutrients cannot be utilized and will be stored as fat, It is important to understand that during any time of food consumption, macronutrient intake beyond the individual's utilization abilities will catalyze the body's lipid storage process. There are a few key times, though, that are directly related to a bodybuilder's diet that I will mention.

1. Immediate post-workout nutrition for the natural bodybuilder in which protein intake exceeds 10-20 grams and carbohydrate intake exceeds 30-40 grams.
2. A natural bodybuilder that consumes more than 1 gram of protein per 3-4lbs of bodyweight.
3. A natural bodybuilder consuming more than ~35 grams of carbohydrates less than 3 hours before going to sleep.

HR,


How do you account for those people who eat fast food and junk and still stay ripped?

[wes]

Can you say overanalyse?

[HugeRipped]

HR,


How do you account for those people who eat fast food and junk and still stay ripped?

Genetically high levels of testosterone combined with low levels of cortisol having a synergistic effect on increased metabolic rate. Furthermore, most of these people consume far less calories on a weekly average than one might generally assume. These types of people may appear to be an anomaly but upon further analyzation of their average dietary patterns, their low levels of bodyfat are easily accounted for. Generally, said demographic eats only 1-2 meals per day, even if it is a fast food binge, they are generally young males consuming only 1300-1900 calories per day - well within the range of an average young man to stay lean. Factor in genetic predisposition toward greater macronutrient utilization, weekly caloric intake averages being much lower than the days of their fast food binges and high hormonal levels as a function of age it is easy to understand their physiology.

[JP_RC]

Genetically high levels of testosterone combined with low levels of cortisol having a synergistic effect on increased metabolic rate. Furthermore, most of these people consume far less calories on a weekly average than one might generally assume. These types of people may appear to be an anomaly but upon further analyzation of their average dietary patterns, their low levels of bodyfat are easily accounted for. Generally, said demographic eats only 1-2 meals per day, even if it is a fast food binge, they are generally young males consuming only 1300-1900 calories per day - well within the range of an average young man to stay lean. Factor in genetic predisposition toward greater macronutrient utilization, weekly caloric intake averages being much lower than the days of their fast food binges and high hormonal levels as a function of age it is easy to understand their physiology.

So you're saying that overall calories do matter.....

[HugeRipped]

So you're saying that overall calories do matter.....

Calories come from macronutrients that have 4-9 cals per gram. I spoke in terms of calories in that post since the typical person that eats 1-2 meals of fast food per day has no interest in exercise science or human physiology so their macronutrient intake is totally invalid. If you completely read my post, you would see that I noted that these types of people have a genetic predisposition toward greater macronutrient utilization - that being the ultimate factor in fat gains.

[JP_RC]

Calories come from macronutrients that have 4-9 cals per gram. I spoke in terms of calories in that post since the typical person that eats 1-2 meals of fast food per day has no interest in exercise science or human physiology so their macronutrient intake is totally invalid. If you completely read my post, you would see that I noted that these types of people have a genetic predisposition toward greater macronutrient utilization - that being the ultimate factor in fat gains.

So, you're saying that a person interested in exercise and his body composition, a bodybuilder for example that has a greater macronutrient utilization and an increased metabolic rate could careless about timing and just focus on overall calories.....

[James Blunt]

Hugeripped = Nutsack

[HugeRipped]

So, you're saying that a person interested in exercise and bodycomposition or a bodybuilder that has a greater macronutrient utilization and an increased metabolic rate could careless about timing and just focus on overall calories?

No, and your lack of reading comprehension is a major red flag that you have no formal education. Nonetheless, I will humor your ignorance one last time in the hope that you will actually learn something related to functional human physiology and nutrition.

What I have repeatedly said is that "excess calories" is an invalid and nonsensical term and do not dictate lipid storage. Calories come from macronutrients. When macronutrients cannot be utilized because 1) they exceed the body's overall capabilities of utilization (i.e. too much protein per day, too many simple sugar carbohydrates at night, etc.) or 2) external factors prevent total utilization (i.e. consuming more than 20g protein post workout) than said macronutrients are stored by the body as fat. Anyone looking to build lean muscle while maintaing a low bodyfat should ignore the "excess calories" concept and simply focus on counting their macronutrient intake per meal, per day and per week. Most bodybuilders do have greater macronutrient utilization capabilities as a result of anabolic steroid, insulin and peptide usage. This simply means they should adjust their macronutrient values toward increased utilization capablities.

[JP_RC]

No, and your lack of reading comprehension is a major red flag that you have no formal education. Nonetheless, I will humor your ignorance one last time in the hope that you will actually learn something related to functional human physiology and nutrition.

Don't you realize I was trying to make fun of you too and show how you were contradicting yourself? 

What I have repeatedly said is that "excess calories" is an invalid and nonsensical term and do not dictate lipid storage. Calories come from macronutrients. When macronutrients cannot be utilized because 1) they exceed the body's overall capabilities of utilization (i.e. too much protein per day, too many simple sugar carbohydrates at night, etc.) or 2) external factors prevent total utilization (i.e. consuming more than 20g protein post workout) than said macronutrients are stored by the body as fat. Anyone looking to build lean muscle while maintaing a low bodyfat should ignore the "excess calories" concept and simply focus on counting their macronutrient intake per meal, per day and per week. Most bodybuilders do have greater macronutrient utilization capabilities as a result of anabolic steroid, insulin and peptide usage. This simply means they should adjust their macronutrient values toward increased utilization capablities.

1. Can't you realize that by controlling your macronutrient intake, you're also controlling your calorie intake? As you said calories come from macronutrients. Since you recommend such little food intake for muscle building, you're basically keeping a calorie controled diet too.
2. What about people that eat some of your "forbidden" foods at not optimal times as you say, but stay lean?
You will say they have an increased metabolic rate or a better macronutrient utilization right? Which basically throws your absolute "theory" out of the window since it shows dieting is really individual.

[Krankenstein]

There is an infinite amount of times when excess macronutrients cannot be utilized and will be stored as fat, It is important to understand that during any time of food consumption, macronutrient intake beyond the individual's utilization abilities will catalyze the body's lipid storage process. There are a few key times, though, that are directly related to a bodybuilder's diet that I will mention.

1. Immediate post-workout nutrition for the natural bodybuilder in which protein intake exceeds 10-20 grams and carbohydrate intake exceeds 30-40 grams.
2. A natural bodybuilder that consumes more than 1 gram of protein per 3-4lbs of bodyweight.
3. A natural bodybuilder consuming more than ~35 grams of carbohydrates less than 3 hours before going to sleep.

Please provide your peer reviewed sources of these facts