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Alleged Aggie Doctor Brags Of Firing Obama-Voting EmployeeBy Richard Connelly, Wednesday, Apr. 7 2010 @ 1:40PMComments (52) Categories: Political Animals
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The TexAgs political message board is probably not the best place to go for nuanced, sophisticated discussion of the day's issues, unless you think Fox News is fair and balanced.
But things can get lively. Like recently, when a poster named dermdoc put up an item headed "Laid off my first Obama voting employee today."
Our reimbursement rates are spiraling downward, taxes are projected to go up with Obamacare, so I did it.
This is for you crag.
On another note, my internal medicine doc for 20 years is retiring over this Obamacare crap. I am really starting to get pissed......
Firing people for their political views -- it's the American way.
As you can imagine, fellow Aggies were quick to condemn him...for not laying off more of those godless Democrats, more or less.
"Good for you doc!" said one.
"I would love to be able to fire Obama voters. Youre helping them more than hurting them. Conservatives are not the only ones who need to realize that elections have consequences. Its time to grow up and live in the real world," said another.
Some did complain that it was unseemly, and possibly illegal. To which the answer came from "aTm2004" -- "To those of you complaining...STFU. DermDoc is a business owner and had to make a business decision. As somebody said, elections have consequences and the person they voted for, and whose policies they support, directly led to their job loss."
Dermdoc did express one regret about his action. "I'll probably have to see some foreign med school grad with a hyphenated last name," he wrote. "This sucks."
Yes, something definitely does suck. But we think it's you, dermdoc.
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Elections have consequences.
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333 - I truly hope you don't think this is acceptable behaviour
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If the doc has to let someone go due to obamacare causing the practice to have less revenue and income, I think it is perfectly reasonable to first let go of someone who assisted in brining this about, even if only by a tiny amount.
Of course the doc should weigh the value of the employee, but all things being equal, and if the doc had to let someone go because of obcamacare, I am totally ok with it.
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If the doc has to let someone go due to obamacare causing the practice to have less revenue and income, I think it is perfectly reasonable to first let go of someone who assisted in brining this about, even if only by a tiny amount.
Of course the doc should weigh the value of the employee, but all things being equal, and if the doc had to let someone go because of obcamacare, I am totally ok with it.
I'm not OK with it at all
Who someone voted for should never be a factor in an employment decision
This is something that always seems to happen on one side of the aisle
I'm beyond fed up with the political divisiveness in this country
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Dumb thing to do, but if employers want to hire and fire someone of a particular party they should have the right to do so.
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Well then who should he let go?
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Well then who should he let go?
if he had to let someone go who should do it in whatever way he would decide before be it seniority, skill level, etc...
It's totally fucking un-American to fire someone based on who they voted for
The next thing will be threatening people with job loss if they don't vote how their employer wants them to vote
I'm sick of this shit
truly just fucking sick of it all
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Seniority??? Shouldn't it be who does the best job and works the hardest?
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!. I said that he should consider that first.
2. Straw - you need to understand that when people feel their livlihood threatened by garbage like obamacare, people are going to act out. I really dont think you understand the true disgust and hatred most small business owners have for this admn, especially doctors who now are going to get screwed.
3. If Bush were president and greatly limited med mal suits, you dont think law firms doing med mal tort cases would do the same thing if their ability to make a living were impacted by crap like this?
I'm not saying its right, but I understand it and think a lot more of this is going to occur if card check goes through as well as cap & trade.
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Seniority??? Shouldn't it be who does the best job and works the hardest?
I did say skill level also
personally I think seniority is bullshit and people who work for me (or assist me) never last too long if they suck, are incompetent or just too fucking stupid to learn to be a help rather than a hindrance but I couldn't give a rats ass who they vote for, what religion they believe, etc...
result are all that matter to me
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!. I said that he should consider that first.
2. Straw - you need to understand that when people feel their livlihood threatened by garbage like obamacare, people are going to act out. I really dont think you understand the true disgust and hatred most small business owners have for this admn, especially doctors who now are going to get screwed.
3. If Bush were president and greatly limited med mal suits, you dont think law firms doing med mal tort cases would do the same thing if their ability to make a living were impacted by crap like this?
I'm not saying its right, but I understand it and think a lot more of this is going to occur if card check goes through as well as cap & trade.
dude this pending financial legislation could have an effect my livlihood (slim chance but who knows the fuck they will do) and I wouldn't take it out on someone who voted for Obama
you can't see how this could be used to intimidate employees and influence how they vote in the future
I'll say it again
this is fucking bullshit
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Seniority??? Shouldn't it be who does the best job and works the hardest?
Should be. Or what if you hire someone and just don't like them?
I think if you wear your allegiances on your sleeve, you open yourself up to something like this.
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!. I said that he should consider that first.
2. Straw - you need to understand that when people feel their livlihood threatened by garbage like obamacare, people are going to act out. I really dont think you understand the true disgust and hatred most small business owners have for this admn, especially doctors who now are going to get screwed.
3. If Bush were president and greatly limited med mal suits, you dont think law firms doing med mal tort cases would do the same thing if their ability to make a living were impacted by crap like this?
I'm not saying its right, but I understand it and think a lot more of this is going to occur if card check goes through as well as cap & trade.
if they did then they'd be just as wrong as this guy in Texas
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Should be. Or what if you hire someone and just don't like them?
I think if you wear your allegiances on your sleeve, you open yourself up to something like this.
so you'd be OK if someone were fired for their religious beliefs too ?
right?
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funny as hell.... I'm guessing he's open to lawsuits? I dunno.
personally, if I had employees, I would keep the people who did the best job. I don't care if a guy is a palin-kneepadder, if he kicks ass at his job. He can have all the ron paul stickers in the world, but if the palin employee is better, that's who i'm keeping - so my business can be more successful.
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What's the big deal? Someone who supports the new healthcare policy should have no problem living with its consequences.
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there's a shitload of reasons you shouldn't take politics to work with you and if you do, don't be shocked when this is the result.
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Im as far to the right as anyone I know,this is bullshit.Who gives a flying fuck what someones political beliefs are.Just go to work,work hard and do your job and you should be able to keep your job[unless layoffs are there ].To start firing people because of beliefs is as dangerous as can be.Maybe your boss wont ike that you lift or walk with your last spread and says thats a fireable offense.I like politics,but keep it the fuck out of the work place.
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People who can't do simple math should probably avoid politics altogether.
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I agree with Straw, this is a little outrageous.
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Wow i can't believe beach and 333 are defending this. Even Billy sees the light on this issue. It's absolutely wrong to fire someone for their political beliefs. I hope the employee gets a good lawyer and takes this guy to the cleaners. That's even if it's true could be some smuck who talks bigger than he actually is, it is the internet after all.
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Wow i can't believe beach and 333 are defending this. Even Billy sees the light on this issue. It's absolutely wrong to fire someone for their political beliefs. I hope the employee gets a good lawyer and takes this guy to the cleaners. That's even if it's true could be some smuck who talks bigger than he actually is, it is the internet after all.
Sorry KC, political beliefs are not a "protected class" in labor cases.
Personally, all things being equal and if I had to choose among someone to fire and no one stood out from the others, I would have done the same damn thing.
Screw em. You want to vote for communism, marxism, and stealing from me to give to deadbeats and dregs of society, have fun being one for all I care.
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Sorry KC, political beliefs are not a "protected class" in labor cases.
Personally, all things being equal and if I had to choose among someone to fire and no one stood out from the others, I would have done the same damn thing.
Screw em. You want to vote for communism, marxism, and stealing from me to give to deadbeats and dregs of society, have fun being one for all I care.
As yet i doubt there has been a need to bring about a law preventing such discrimination. You come across as the kind of guy who would have fired woman for voting in woman's rights leaders because it raised their wages or fired blacks for doing the same thing, or gays for that matter. What you are complicit in is worse than anything Obama could ever hope to do.
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As yet i doubt there has been a need to bring about a law preventing such discrimination. You come across as the kind of guy who would have fired woman for voting in woman's rights leaders because it raised their wages or fired blacks for doing the same thing, or gays for that matter. What you are complicit in is worse than anything Obama could ever hope to do.
No, if I have 5 employees and one has to be let go, and the 5 are equal in all respects and I have to let one go, and I know one of them voted for a tax increase and mandate on my business, SCREW THEM - THEY ARE GONE! ! ! !
Its about time in this country that people feel and realize the consequences of their voting decisions.
Personally, I would have done the same thing 99/100 times.
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Dumb thing to do, but if employers want to hire and fire someone of a particular party they should have the right to do so.
Agreed!
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Typical 333 bullshit again. Finding pride in a dumbasses actions.
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So, if all things being equal, what criteria should the doc use in this case? A lottery?
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No, if I have 5 employees and one has to be let go, and the 5 are equal in all respects and I have to let one go, and I know one of them voted for a tax increase and mandate on my business, SCREW THEM - THEY ARE GONE! ! ! !
Its about time in this country that people feel and realize the consequences of their voting decisions.
Personally, I would have done the same thing 99/100 times.
So you don't believe in freedom of choice to vote for who you wish? Lets give an example here - candidate a will lower the business tax rate but raise a families income tax. Candidate b will lower family income taxes but keep raise the business tax rate. You would openly say on here that you would fire someone who voted for candidate b because it hurt your business situation? Would you also say you think people should vote along the lines of what helps their employer or should they vote for what helps their family?
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Dumb thing to do, but if employers want to hire and fire someone of a particular party they should have the right to do so.
Uh no they shouldn't. You argument is not based on work merit at all and on belief. You must therefore believe that your religious, sexual or choice of tie colour can and will effect your employment too right?
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So you don't believe in freedom of choice to vote for who you wish? Lets give an example here - candidate a will lower the business tax rate but raise a families income tax. Candidate b will lower family income taxes but keep raise the business tax rate. You would openly say on here that you would fire someone who voted for candidate b because it hurt your business situation? Would you also say you think people should vote along the lines of what helps their employer or should they vote for what helps their family?
Yes I believe in free choice, but I also believe that freedom brings consequences. You vote for a communist like Obama who wants to tax your employer, dont be surprised when your employer fires you. Simple as that.
As for your example, its a choice. If you choose to vote to tax your employer, dont be surprised when he lets you go.
Its called learning the reality that socialism does not work and that class envy, tax frenzy, and marxist bs has consequences.
I have no problem with what this doc did and would do it myself if all things being equal, I had to lay one person off and I knew that one of the 5 voted for a tax increase on my business.
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KC - please stop the ignorant bs. We have laws etc on labor and employment. Political beliefs are not a protected class.
Race, sex, national origin, are. That's it.
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So you don't believe in freedom of choice to vote for who you wish? Lets give an example here - candidate a will lower the business tax rate but raise a families income tax. Candidate b will lower family income taxes but keep raise the business tax rate. You would openly say on here that you would fire someone who voted for candidate b because it hurt your business situation? Would you also say you think people should vote along the lines of what helps their employer or should they vote for what helps their family?
Free choice or will does not mean we live in a world without consequences.
People are free to jump off a bridges but that doesn't mean the ground won't harm them. :)
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Exactly. I dont care who you vote for, but if you vote for someone out to screw me over, dont be surprised when I hand you a pink slip.
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Exactly. I dont care who you vote for, but if you vote for someone out to screw me over, dont be surprised when I hand you a pink slip.
Here's the thing... I'm not gonna go calling KC or anyone else an idiot. I'm convinced they don't feel things like math or affordability need taking into consideration because healthcare reform is for the greater good. If that's the case, why shouldn't sacrifices be made by people who believe in the cause?!
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Here's the thing... I'm not gonna go calling KC or anyone else an idiot. I'm convinced they don't feel things like math or affordability need taking into consideration because healthcare reform is for the greater good. If that's the case, why shouldn't sacrifices be made by people who believe in the cause?!
That's my point exactly. Its about time so brain dead libs start feeling the effect of the crap they keep voting for.
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So, if all things being equal, what criteria should the doc use in this case? A lottery?
same friggin criteria he would otherwise use
this shit is not complicated
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same friggin criteria he would otherwise use
this shit is not complicated
Ok, and if there is no difference at all between the employees but for the fact that you know one voted for more taxes on your business and for a communist asshole looking to take over your livihood, in my mind its an easy choice.
You want to vote for communism, socialism, and liberal bs economics, WELCOME TO ITS EFFECTS!
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MY QUESTION IS WHY DO YOUR BOSSES KNOW WHO YOU VOTED FOR?Ive worked for the same boss for 7 years,he doesnt know what my politics are.All he knows is I lift,Im big and I show up.Other then that I only speak to him about work or our kids.Quite frankly I dont even like talking about that.Im sure he thinks Im waaaay to the right as I might comment in meetings about my taxes or if we are going to have health care after this dumb bill passesd but its more of an anti government or anti tax rant,but I dont recall ever telling him,Im a republican or Im a democrat or Im a libertarian.I think he just thinks Im a pissed off guy who looks like I want to be left alone.
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A public employer CANNOT fire a person for political beliefs.
A private employer CAN - even if those beliefs in no way interfere with the business.
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A public employer CANNOT fire a person for political beliefs.
A private employer CAN - even if those beliefs in no way interfere with the business.
A PUBLIC employer cant fire anyone for almost anything.
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Ok, and if there is no difference at all between the employees but for the fact that you know one voted for more taxes on your business and for a communist asshole looking to take over your livihood, in my mind its an easy choice.
You want to vote for communism, socialism, and liberal bs economics, WELCOME TO ITS EFFECTS!
why not go one step further and just inform all employees if they vote for someone that you don't like then they are fired
you'd be fine with that too I assume
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why not go one step further and just inform all employees if they vote for someone that you don't like then they are fired
you'd be fine with that too I assume
I would be fine if they kept it to themselves, but if they did not, and they let it be known that they voted for Obama, and i have nothing else to go from, I would fire that guy 99/100 times.
You motherfuckers voted for this communist, now deal with it.
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Yes I believe in free choice, but I also believe that freedom brings consequences. You vote for a communist like Obama who wants to tax your employer, dont be surprised when your employer fires you. Simple as that.
As for your example, its a choice. If you choose to vote to tax your employer, dont be surprised when he lets you go.
Its called learning the reality that socialism does not work and that class envy, tax frenzy, and marxist bs has consequences.
I have no problem with what this doc did and would do it myself if all things being equal, I had to lay one person off and I knew that one of the 5 voted for a tax increase on my business.
Obama is not a Socialist. Why do you keep calling him that? Its kind of disrespectful to Socialists you know.
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I would be fine if they kept it to themselves, but if they did not, and they let it be known that they voted for Obama, and i have nothing else to go from, I would fire that guy 99/100 times.
You motherfuckers voted for this communist, now deal with it.
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Now he is a Communist? 2 Seconds ago you called him a Socialist. What all of a sudden changed your mind in that quick of a time frame?
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Now he is a Communist? 2 Seconds ago you called him a Socialist. What all of a sudden changed your mind in that quick of a time frame?
Socialism is a pre-text to communism.
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I would be fine if they kept it to themselves, but if they did not, and they let it be known that they voted for Obama, and i have nothing else to go from, I would fire that guy 99/100 times.
You motherfuckers voted for this communist, now deal with it.
your rants about Communism are FUCKING STUPID
if you think intimidation is an appropriate part of the political process then you're the one who is the Commie/Marxist/Nazi thug
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i bet stalin is down in hell laughing at all the people using the word 'communist'.
He's like, "I slaughtered 20 million people - that's some mufferfvvvcking communism." This crap equating universal healthcare with communism would crack him up.
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Socialism is a pre-text to communism.
I don`t think you fully know the definition of either.
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No, I think that if you vote for someone who promises to raise taxes on your employer, it is perfectly logical reasonable, and rational, that you be the first person fired if there is no other criteria to go by in determining who gets fired.
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so you'd be OK if someone were fired for their religious beliefs too ?
right?
Of course not. Religion has nothing to do with this thread. In any event, Google "Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964."
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I don`t think you fully know the definition of either.
No, why dont you educate me o educated one who cuts and pastes whatever bs he can find?
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Agreed!
Says my alter ego. :D
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That's my point exactly. Its about time so brain dead libs start feeling the effect of the crap they keep voting for.
At least they'll have free health insurance. :)
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At least they'll have free health insurance. :)
Yeah, free to the point where they have to wait in line behind 50 illegals and drug addicts at the dmv.
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Uh no they shouldn't. You argument is not based on work merit at all and on belief. You must therefore believe that your religious, sexual or choice of tie colour can and will effect your employment too right?
Nope. You don't have to hire and fire employees based solely on merit. If you only want to hire "pretty" employees, you should be able to do that. Maybe you don't like the employee's personality. Maybe they stink. Maybe you don't want to hire smokers.
I don't think it's a smart thing to do, but I'm unaware of a person's voting record being treated the same as religion, race, gender, etc. Are you?
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LOL @ lawyers on this thread unawake of the law :)
you can fire them, plain and simple.
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!. I said that he should consider that first.
2. Straw - you need to understand that when people feel their livlihood threatened by garbage like obamacare, people are going to act out. I really dont think you understand the true disgust and hatred most small business owners have for this admn, especially doctors who now are going to get screwed.
3. If Bush were president and greatly limited med mal suits, you dont think law firms doing med mal tort cases would do the same thing if their ability to make a living were impacted by crap like this?
I'm not saying its right, but I understand it and think a lot more of this is going to occur if card check goes through as well as cap & trade.
But the CEO of the 2nd Largest Medical group in California, said its a good thing and is ready for it
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Yeah, free to the point where they have to wait in line behind 50 illegals and drug addicts at the dmv.
Who cares?! It'll be free!! ;D
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No, I think that if you vote for someone who promises to raise taxes on your employer, it is perfectly logical reasonable, and rational, that you be the first person fired if there is no other criteria to go by in determining who gets fired.
and if you believe that they you must also believe it's ok to tell your employee before hand that if they vote for a candidate that you don't like then tehy will be fired
what's the difference?
If you think that's "intimidation" and therefore un-American then isn't it also a form of intimidation to fire the employee since other employees can see the reason they were fired and essentially "get the message" as well that they can be fired for particpating in an election
what if you didn't vote but the doctors preferred candidate still lost
couldn't he justify firing you because you didn't help his candidtate win?
seriously 333 - I don't think you have any clue just how fucked up you really are
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Hooters can hire only hotties.
Hospitals can hire only non-smokers.
And shooting ranges can damn sure hire Palin voters.
Have you ever seen how people can't visit a range or gun store without shit-talking Obama? It's hilarious.
until obama changes the law, we live in a free country!
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and if you believe that they you must also believe it's ok to tell your employee before hand that if they vote for a candidate that you don't like then tehy will be fired
what's the difference?
If you think that's "intimidation" and therefore un-American then isn't it also a form of intimidation to fire the employee since other employees can see the reason they were fired and essentially "get the message" as well that they can be fired for particpating in an election
what if you didn't vote but the doctors preferred candidate still lost
couldn't he justify firing you because you didn't help his candidtate win?
seriously 333 - I don't think you have any clue just how fucked up you really are
Sorry Straw - i dont think you realize just how FUCKED UP your entire leftist agenda is to small business and that we/they/it/ etc will not simply be victimized by your do-gooder intentions seeking to regulate/mandate/legislate fairness and redistribution of wealth to others.
Actions and elections have consequences. If em,ployees dont want things like this held against them, they should leave their politics home. however, if they do bring it to the office, they are fair game in my eyes.
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Sorry Straw - i dont think you realize just how FUCKED UP your entire leftist agenda is to small business and that we/they/it/ etc will not simply be victimized by your do-gooder intentions seeking to regulate/mandate/legislate fairness and redistribution of wealth to others.
Actions and elections have consequences. If em,ployees dont want things like this held against them, they should leave their politics home. however, if they do bring it to the office, they are fair game in my eyes.
dude I voted for the far lessor of 2 evils
what you're saying is that you think it's acceptable in America to use intimidation to try to influence elections or to apply punative actions to people don't vote the way you'd like
that's about as un-American as it gets
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Of course not. Religion has nothing to do with this thread. In any event, Google "Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964."
what If I decide that Christians are ruining this country I fire any employee who votes a candidate that has what I perceive to a pro-christian agenda
I'm not firing them for being christian but rather for who they voted for
I assume you're fine with that and if this actually happened you wouldn't post threads about how unfair it is right?
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what If I decide that Christians are ruining this country I fire any employee who votes a candidate that has what I perceive to a pro-christian agenda
I'm not firing them for being christian but rather for who they voted for
I assume you're fine with that and if this actually happened you wouldn't post threads about how unfair it is right?
If it were the case that the president were ramming through laws directly infringing on your liberty and ability to earn an income and take over your professional field, and you had 5 employees and onwe had to go as a result of these news laws, than I would be totally ok with you firing the one jesus freak you employed who voted for that agenda that directly impacted on your livlihood.
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Who cares?! It'll be free!! ;D
The moron 333667 keeps referencing the DMV...The last time i was at the DMV i was in and out in 10 minutes...All the DMV's in CT have streamlined there operations, and they are more efficient than the old days..
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Maybe in CT, but not NY.
The DMV in NY is horrible.
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Maybe in CT, but not NY.
The DMV in NY is horrible.
The DMV used to be terrible here. A person would literally waste an entire Saturday waiting in line. However, the process is streamlined and efficient these days.
On the other hand most services can be done without having to step inside the DMV..
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If it were the case that the president were ramming through laws directly infringing on your liberty and ability to earn an income and take over your professional field, and you had 5 employees and onwe had to go as a result of these news laws, than I would be totally ok with you firing the one jesus freak you employed who voted for that agenda that directly impacted on your livlihood.
Doesn't matter what is happening or what I think will happen
All that matters is what I believe.
If I believe "x" candidate is bad for this country then it ok to fire employees for exercising their legal right to choose that candidate.
Right?
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The DMV used to be terrible here. A person would literally waste an entire Saturday waiting in line. However, the process is streamlined and efficient these days.
On the other hand most services can be done without having to step inside the DMV..
I'm close to moving to North Stamford. Found a few places up there.
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Yes, since most places have "At Will" employment. BTW - why would you want an employee that you wanted to beat the shit out of every second?
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Yes, since most places have "At Will" employment. BTW - why would you want an employee that you wanted to beat the shit out of every second?
who is fucked up enough to want to beat up people who don't share their political views.
Besides you of course
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who is fucked up enough to want to beat up people who don't share their political views.
Besides you of course
I'm not talking about this in a vacuum. Its in the contaxt of a law being pushed that will affect your livihood and the fact that you have to let someone go and who you choose it to be.
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what If I decide that Christians are ruining this country I fire any employee who votes a candidate that has what I perceive to a pro-christian agenda
I'm not firing them for being christian but rather for who they voted for
I assume you're fine with that and if this actually happened you wouldn't post threads about how unfair it is right?
Like I said:
Of course not. Religion has nothing to do with this thread. In any event, Google "Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964."
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Like I said:
like I said in my made up scenario, they would be fired for voting for a pro-christian candidate and not for merely being christian.
No problem with that right?
Nothing to complain about right?
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like I said in my made up scenario, they would be fired for voting for a pro-christian candidate and not for merely being christian.
No problem with that right?
Nothing to complain about right?
lol. Go do your homework. I gave you big hint.
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lol. Go do your homework. I gave you big hint.
I assume you would have nothing nothing to complain about in the scenario I presented.
It"s exactly the same as the dr. in Texas and you have no problem with that
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As yet i doubt there has been a need to bring about a law preventing such discrimination. You come across as the kind of guy who would have fired woman for voting in woman's rights leaders because it raised their wages or fired blacks for doing the same thing, or gays for that matter. What you are complicit in is worse than anything Obama could ever hope to do.
:o :o :o Holy cow! You guys don't have a law preventing this kind of discrimination?
Holy Cow! That simply blows my mind. Up here, employers don't have a right to even ask who you're voting for. They're just required to give employees time off to vote if they need it.
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:o :o :o Holy cow! You guys don't have a law preventing this kind of discrimination?
Holy Cow! That simply blows my mind. Up here, employers don't have a right to even ask who you're voting for. They're just required to give employees time off to vote if they need it.
If I open a business I should be able to hire and fire anyone on whatever basis I choose. You know why?
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If I open a business I should be able to hire and fire anyone on whatever basis I choose. You know why?
shoulda, woulda, coulda... sorry... the law does not work that way.
You are an employer, not a slave holder. There is a contract involved, and as long as the employee is fulfilling their end of the contract, the employer cannot unilaterally dismiss him or her without just cause, and how one votes in an election is not just cause, ...it is tyranny.
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shoulda, woulda, coulda... sorry... the law does not work that way.
You are an employer, not a slave holder. There is a contract involved, and as long as the employee is fulfilling their end of the contract, the employer cannot unilaterally dismiss him or her without just cause, and how one votes in an election is not just cause, ...it is tyranny.
For once I agree with you BUT there is no contract here when you get a job.If I work for a landscaping company the guy hires me and can fire me anytime he wants to.When your a regular worker there are no contracts.However,the idea that ANYONE would fire you for ANY other reason then poor performance is insane.I dont care if the guy is a wild eyed hippie outside of work who is a member of the communist party,just do your freaking job and you should keep your job.
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For once I agree with you BUT there is no contract here when you get a job.If I work for a landscaping company the guy hires me and can fire me anytime he wants to.When your a regular worker there are no contracts.However,the idea that ANYONE would fire you for ANY other reason then poor performance is insane.I dont care if the guy is a wild eyed hippie outside of work who is a member of the communist party,just do your freaking job and you should keep your job.
Sorry Billy, I should have made myself clearer... I meant in the cases where there is no written contract, there is an unwritten one, and whatever lawful activity one engages in outside of work is separate and has or should have nothing to do with his work and whether he gets to keep his job.
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Sorry Billy, I should have made myself clearer... I meant in the cases where there is no written contract, there is an unwritten one, and whatever lawful activity one engages in outside of work is separate and has or should have nothing to do with his work and whether he gets to keep his job.
So you'd be totally fine paying an employee who didn't believe your business should make a profit?
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So you'd be totally fine paying an employee who didn't believe your business should make a profit?
If the guy said to you "I dont think you should make a profit' then Id say he could be fired for lack of loyalty.However,if the guy just voted for Obama that doesnt mean he doesnt think you should make a profit.Obama did get like 50 million votes.Thats a lot of people to fire.
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So you'd be totally fine paying an employee who didn't believe your business should make a profit?
I would hire my employees carefully, and I would expect a certain profit margin from their activities.
Employees are bought wholesale and are sold retail. If a product is no longer selling, I stop carrying it.
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If the guy said to you "I dont think you should make a profit' then Id say he could be fired for lack of loyalty.However,if the guy just voted for Obama that doesnt mean he doesnt think you should make a profit.Obama did get like 50 million votes.Thats a lot of people to fire.
If the policies they support mean your business cannot survive.....