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Title: krav maga owns karate.
Post by: dashriprock on April 08, 2010, 01:07:34 AM
  ;D
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Post by: LatsMcGee on April 08, 2010, 01:09:27 AM
Krav Maga is pretty sweet, they just opened a Krav Maga gym not too far from my house.  I will probably enroll my daughter in their self defense classes. 
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Post by: dashriprock on April 08, 2010, 01:12:29 AM
that it is my friend. it's suit's me fine. tried many others. some good so not so. to each his own. as long as your training more power to you i reckon whatever it is. the video says it all though. ;D
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Post by: Kwon on April 08, 2010, 01:18:51 AM
No Groin, No Krav Maga!
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Post by: MAXX on April 08, 2010, 01:33:57 AM
was a 170 lbs twink that told me he did krav maga. I told him show me what you got then in a joking manner then he looked at me 100% serious and said he could kill me if he used krav maga on me  ;D

seems like only this type of insecure losers are drawn to it
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Post by: pugalist666 on April 08, 2010, 02:05:38 AM
was a 170 lbs twink that told me he did krav maga. I told him show me what you got then in a joking manner then he looked at me 100% serious and said he could kill me if he used krav maga on me  ;D

seems like only this type of insecure losers are drawn to it
prolly why the jews invented it
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Post by: Captain Equipoise on April 08, 2010, 02:19:15 AM
It most certainly does.. Krav Maga was created for the Israeli army and Mossad agents to allow troops to take on multiple attackers and disarm and disable them quickly, efficiently and easily.

There is a Russian style that is very similar called SYSTEMA (the System)

they are both great because they are not designed for sport or tournament fighting but for quick disabling of an armed opponent.
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Post by: Purple Aki on April 08, 2010, 02:30:44 AM
was a 170 lbs twink that told me he did krav maga. I told him show me what you got then in a joking manner then he looked at me 100% serious and said he could kill me if he used krav maga on me  ;D

seems like only this type of insecure losers are drawn to it

A couple of mates that I went to university with are deadly serious about becoming steely eyed dealers of Israeli based death. Before that it was training for a triathlon and next it will probably be crossfit.

Anything to block out the fact that they sit behind a desk all day.
Title: Re: krav maga owns karate.
Post by: Kwon on April 08, 2010, 02:33:28 AM
A couple of mates that I went to university with are deadly serious about becoming steely eyed dealers of Israeli based death. Before that it was training for a triathlon and next it will probably be crossfit.

Anything to block out the fact that they sit behind a desk all day.

Epic post Aki! :D
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Post by: ShipSekki on April 08, 2010, 03:31:30 AM
Krav Maga was invented by Jewish small cocks so they can beat up Palestinian women and children. That way they can feel a little bit better about the fact that throughout history everybody has hated them and killed their punk asses.
Title: Re: krav maga owns karate.
Post by: dashriprock on April 08, 2010, 04:43:50 AM
HInt:
1;actually watch the download posted.
2:have abit of a giggle and get your head out of your arse
3: repeat...

170pd twinks are drawn to it? does this mean fat arse goes to gym for 2 weeks and now he's not fat, he's off season?
or shave your head, get some tatts and buy a tatpout shirt makes you an MMA fighter?
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Post by: geneticmarvel on April 08, 2010, 01:42:24 PM
Bar brawling OWNS Krav Maga
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Post by: JOHN MATRIX on April 08, 2010, 01:49:14 PM
Krav Maga was invented by Jewish small cocks so they can beat up Palestinian women and children. That way they can feel a little bit better about the fact that throughout history everybody has hated them and killed their punk asses.
;D
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Post by: DK II on April 08, 2010, 01:53:05 PM
A couple of mates that I went to university with are deadly serious about becoming steely eyed dealers of Israeli based death. Before that it was training for a triathlon and next it will probably be crossfit.

Anything to block out the fact that they sit behind a desk all day.

LOL, spot on!!
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Post by: haider on April 08, 2010, 01:53:27 PM
A couple of mates that I went to university with are deadly serious about becoming steely eyed dealers of Israeli based death. Before that it was training for a triathlon and next it will probably be crossfit.

Anything to block out the fact that they sit behind a desk all day.
LOL!

quality poster, all the way quality poster  8)
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Post by: polychronopolous on April 08, 2010, 01:53:57 PM
The Israeli's also helped created the Desert Eagle 50 caliber pistol.

That makes them alright in my book.
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Post by: bigbobs on April 08, 2010, 01:55:31 PM
Krav Maga experts would lose to any pro bodybuilder in an actual street-fight
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Post by: brooklynbruiser on April 08, 2010, 01:55:52 PM
OP...learn how to embed vids...
Title: Re: krav maga owns karate.
Post by: DK II on April 08, 2010, 01:56:47 PM
The Israeli's also helped created the Desert Eagle 50 caliber pistol.

That makes them alright in my book.

Well, after 3 weeks of Krav Maga, you will stand no chance with your Desert Eagle.  :o :o :o


 ::) ::)

Did these people think about the fact that you can use a handgun from a few meters away?
Title: Re: krav maga owns karate.
Post by: polychronopolous on April 08, 2010, 02:09:56 PM
Krav Maga experts would lose to any pro bodybuilder in an actual street-fight

Yes and Nasser El Sonbaty also deserved to win multiple Mr. Olympia titles.
Title: Re: krav maga owns karate.
Post by: SamoanIrishman on April 08, 2010, 02:13:08 PM
The Israeli's also helped created the Desert Eagle 50 caliber pistol.

That makes them alright in my book.

On that note...my concealed carry .40 owns martial art douches.


...just kidding. At least this one looks as if its not for "show" and can actually be used in real life situations where it could be useful to me...like in a bar, bank ect where I can't carry.
Title: Re: krav maga owns karate.
Post by: polychronopolous on April 08, 2010, 02:21:40 PM
On that note...my concealed carry .40 owns martial art douches

Yeah I'll take my chances with Tecs over pecs or martial art skills every time.

Title: Re: krav maga owns karate.
Post by: haider on April 08, 2010, 02:42:27 PM
Krav Maga experts would lose to any pro bodybuilder in an actual street-fight
epic bating  ;D
Title: Re: krav maga owns karate.
Post by: residue on April 08, 2010, 02:49:45 PM
The Israeli's also helped created the Desert Eagle 50 caliber pistol.

That makes them alright in my book.
and the uzi
Title: Re: krav maga owns karate.
Post by: drkaje on April 08, 2010, 02:54:45 PM
She definitely wore out Bart's nutsack, LOL!
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Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on April 08, 2010, 03:20:27 PM
Well, after 3 weeks of Krav Maga, you will stand no chance with your Desert Eagle.  :o :o :o


 ::) ::)

Did these people think about the fact that you can use a handgun from a few meters away?


 Do you carry a gun 24/7 365 days a year?
 Can you carry a gun 24/7 365 days a year?
 Oops... ::)
 
 
 Krav Maga  you can count on that 24/7 365  days a year.
Title: Re: krav maga owns karate.
Post by: drkaje on April 08, 2010, 03:36:32 PM

 Do you carry a gun 24/7 365 days a year?
 Can you carry a gun 24/7 365 days a year?
 Oops... ::)
 
 
 Krav Maga  you can count on that 24/7 365  days a year.

I must be drunk, LOL!

You just complimented a non-BJJ fighting method. :)
Title: Re: krav maga owns karate.
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on April 08, 2010, 04:06:36 PM
I must be drunk, LOL!

You just complimented a non-BJJ fighting method. :)


 I've posted before. i know Krav Maga too.
 Wanna be like Batman?

 
Title: Re: krav maga owns karate.
Post by: drkaje on April 08, 2010, 04:39:09 PM
Gracie,

I'm gonna regret asking but.... does Batman do Krav Maga?
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Post by: MindSpin on April 08, 2010, 05:16:53 PM
I studied krav maga for a couple of years.  My may issue with it, is that unlike BJJ, you can't really test if it works or not.
Title: Re: krav maga owns karate.
Post by: drkaje on April 08, 2010, 05:46:15 PM
I studied krav maga for a couple of years.  My may issue with it, is that unlike BJJ, you can't really test if it works or not.

I'm no fan of overly practiced moves but Krav Maga, BJJ and other good approaches have been field tested enough to know they work. I still don't believe there's good reason for going to the ground in most street fights.
Title: Re: krav maga owns karate.
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on April 08, 2010, 05:56:47 PM
Gracie,

I'm gonna regret asking but.... does Batman do Krav Maga?

 What's Batman super power?


 Although Batman does not have any 'superpowers', he has elevated himslef to near superhuman status through years of rigorous training. Through these years of training, he has obtained peak human strength, agility and skills in acrobatics. On some occassions, Batman has been known to be able to perform humanly impossible feats such as punching through brick walls or kicking down trees. He is a master of 127 different forms of martial arts, thus making him a very unpredictable opponent to his enemies. Batman was also trained as a League of Shadow ninja assasin, becoming a master of stealth, and escape artistry, thus having the effect as being "invisible." Through years of deep study, he has become one of the world's greatest scientists, criminalologists, tacticians and detectives and a master of disguise as well. The Batman has the power of fear and can invoke it upon the hearts of criminals and grow as a wraith in their minds much like the wrath of God.
 
Title: Re: krav maga owns karate.
Post by: MindSpin on April 08, 2010, 05:59:31 PM
lol
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Post by: drkaje on April 08, 2010, 06:01:41 PM
What's Batman super power?


 Although Batman does not have any 'superpowers', he has elevated himslef to near superhuman status through years of rigorous training. Through these years of training, he has obtained peak human strength, agility and skills in acrobatics. On some occassions, Batman has been known to be able to perform humanly impossible feats such as punching through brick walls or kicking down trees. He is a master of 127 different forms of martial arts, thus making him a very unpredictable opponent to his enemies. Batman was also trained as a League of Shadow ninja assasin, becoming a master of stealth, and escape artistry, thus having the effect as being "invisible." Through years of deep study, he has become one of the world's greatest scientists, criminalologists, tacticians and detectives and a master of disguise as well. The Batman has the power of fear and can invoke it upon the hearts of criminals and grow as a wraith in their minds much like the wrath of God.
 

Homo. :)
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Post by: dantelis on April 08, 2010, 07:30:53 PM
I am sure a 170 lb jew with mad krav magna skills could disable Nasser in 5 seconds flat.
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Post by: Captain Equipoise on April 08, 2010, 07:47:05 PM
I am sure a 170 lb jew with mad krav magna skills could disable Nasser in 5 seconds flat.

But would he also know Jew Jitsu ?
Title: Re: krav maga owns karate.
Post by: LurkyLurker on April 08, 2010, 10:19:32 PM
Krav Maga was invented by Jewish small cocks so they can beat up Palestinian women and children. That way they can feel a little bit better about the fact that throughout history everybody has hated them and killed their punk asses.

Are you special needs? Seriously. Most of your posts seem to indicate that you're about 17 and took the short bus for a period in your life.

I tried KM. It's intense. The instructors and senior students are incredibly impressive to watch. Short, quick, precise movements- each one designed to maim and disable. Pretty much every one of us would leave each class with some kind of minor injury, and a few with some serious aches and pains.
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Post by: ShipSekki on April 08, 2010, 10:22:46 PM
Are you special needs? Seriously. Most of your posts seem to indicate that you're about 17 and took the short bus for a period in your life.

I tried KM. It's intense. The instructors and senior students are incredibly impressive to watch. Short, quick, precise movements- each one designed to maim and disable. Pretty much every one of us would leave each class with some kind of minor injury, and a few with some serious aches and pains.

 Krav Maga is good for fighting. But it's basically just a ripoff of other martial arts.

 And it was invented by the Jews, so they could beat the shit out of Arab women and children, and go home and laugh about it later.....
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Post by: Parker on April 08, 2010, 10:34:12 PM
Gracie,

I'm gonna regret asking but.... does Batman do Krav Maga?
I know Batman has Spidey's girl Black Cat bent over...I didn't know Batman was into inter-comicbook universe relationships.
Title: Re: krav maga owns karate.
Post by: Parker on April 08, 2010, 10:36:56 PM
What's Batman super power?


 Although Batman does not have any 'superpowers', he has elevated himslef to near superhuman status through years of rigorous training. Through these years of training, he has obtained peak human strength, agility and skills in acrobatics. On some occassions, Batman has been known to be able to perform humanly impossible feats such as punching through brick walls or kicking down trees. He is a master of 127 different forms of martial arts, thus making him a very unpredictable opponent to his enemies. Batman was also trained as a League of Shadow ninja assasin, becoming a master of stealth, and escape artistry, thus having the effect as being "invisible." Through years of deep study, he has become one of the world's greatest scientists, criminalologists, tacticians and detectives and a master of disguise as well. The Batman has the power of fear and can invoke it upon the hearts of criminals and grow as a wraith in their minds much like the wrath of God.
 
In order for a real person to do this, he'd have no life whatsoever...ANd mastering 127 diff forms of martial arts...improbable. And be a billionaire?
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Post by: grab an umbrella on April 08, 2010, 10:54:13 PM
What's Batman super power?


 Although Batman does not have any 'superpowers', he has elevated himslef to near superhuman status through years of rigorous training. Through these years of training, he has obtained peak human strength, agility and skills in acrobatics. On some occassions, Batman has been known to be able to perform humanly impossible feats such as punching through brick walls or kicking down trees. He is a master of 127 different forms of martial arts, thus making him a very unpredictable opponent to his enemies. Batman was also trained as a League of Shadow ninja assasin, becoming a master of stealth, and escape artistry, thus having the effect as being "invisible." Through years of deep study, he has become one of the world's greatest scientists, criminalologists, tacticians and detectives and a master of disguise as well. The Batman has the power of fear and can invoke it upon the hearts of criminals and grow as a wraith in their minds much like the wrath of God.
 

God you're fucking retarded.  Did you watch teh video you posted?  Honestly did you watch it?  Did you search on youtube to find that video and you said to yourself fuck yeah thats a great vid?  That video proved nothing.  It was essentially a WWE video.  I honestly hate you right now, everything about that video was disingenuous.  From the fights, the shit throws, the crappy two on one fighting.  Maybe there are better vids out there.  I wouldn't fight that style to risk your life.

</meltdown>
Title: Re: krav maga owns karate.
Post by: dashriprock on April 09, 2010, 12:33:39 AM
so basically this has gone from a cartoon video of bart getting kicked in the nuts to a pissing contest. seriously mate lighten up. people who are good at something don't feel the need to tell, they already know. people who are insecure and FOS? well.....

never argue with a dickhead. people watching can't tell the difference.
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Post by: DK II on April 09, 2010, 05:02:31 AM

 Do you carry a gun 24/7 365 days a year?
 Can you carry a gun 24/7 365 days a year?
 Oops... ::)
 
 
 Krav Maga  you can count on that 24/7 365  days a year.


LOL!!! You cannot be serious!


And for the Batman-Story: I hate to break it too you, but Batman is a Comic book character. He's a billionaire with unlimited money, he dresses up at night in a costume, has a "Batmobile", a "Batwing"-fighter plane sort of thing and has his headquarters in a big cave under his mansion....  ::) ::)
Sure if i start Krav Maga i will be just like Batman in no time.  ::) ::)
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Post by: MAXX on April 09, 2010, 05:47:26 AM
A couple of mates that I went to university with are deadly serious about becoming steely eyed dealers of Israeli based death. Before that it was training for a triathlon and next it will probably be crossfit.
haha yes crossfit and "underground gyms"

oh brother...
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Post by: SilverSpoon on April 09, 2010, 07:54:26 AM
In order for a real person to do this, he'd have no life whatsoever...ANd mastering 127 diff forms of martial arts...improbable. And be a billionaire?

He is a GetBigger, so anything is possible.
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Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on April 09, 2010, 07:55:31 AM
In order for a real person to do this, he'd have no life whatsoever...ANd mastering 127 diff forms of martial arts...improbable. And be a billionaire?


 You ask me if Batman knows grav maga...so I post Batman's bio.
 I never said that i want to be Batman. I never said that Batman was real.
 And i never said that someone could be Batman.
 C'mon Parker you can do better than that. 8)
Title: Re: krav maga owns karate.
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on April 09, 2010, 07:59:17 AM
God you're fucking retarded.  Did you watch teh video you posted?  Honestly did you watch it?  Did you search on youtube to find that video and you said to yourself fuck yeah thats a great vid?  That video proved nothing.  It was essentially a WWE video.  I honestly hate you right now, everything about that video was disingenuous.  From the fights, the shit throws, the crappy two on one fighting.  Maybe there are better vids out there.  I wouldn't fight that style to risk your life.

</meltdown>


 I'm retarded? Did you watched the video?
 That guy just mixed jiu-jitsu with grav maga.... that was my point.
 Roy Elghanayan google him. "exhibition" do you what that means?
Title: Re: krav maga owns karate.
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on April 09, 2010, 08:03:22 AM

LOL!!! You cannot be serious!


And for the Batman-Story: I hate to break it too you, but Batman is a Comic book character. He's a billionaire with unlimited money, he dresses up at night in a costume, has a "Batmobile", a "Batwing"-fighter plane sort of thing and has his headquarters in a big cave under his mansion....  ::) ::)
Sure if i start Krav Maga i will be just like Batman in no time.  ::) ::)



 Yes i'm serious...Please answer the question.

 Do you carry a gun 24/7 365 days a year?
 Can you carry a gun 24/7 365 days a year?

 Again I never said that a want to be Batman.
 
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Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 09, 2010, 08:07:49 AM
HAHAHA, Jews trying to act tough.  Stick to stealing money and wars and leave the fighting to real men.
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Post by: MRDUMPLING on April 09, 2010, 08:16:57 AM
HAHAHA, Jews trying to act tough.  Stick to stealing money and wars and leave the fighting to real men.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!  This post made my week!  Thanks bro...seriously.  It's been one hell of a week for me. 
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Post by: Kwon on April 09, 2010, 08:35:06 AM

And for the Batman-Story: I hate to break it too you, but Batman is a Comic book character. He's a billionaire with unlimited money, he dresses up at night in a costume, has a "Batmobile", a "Batwing"-fighter plane sort of thing and has his headquarters in a big cave under his mansion....  ::) ::)
Sure if i start Krav Maga i will be just like Batman in no time.  ::) ::)

Proof?
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Post by: DK II on April 09, 2010, 10:03:44 AM
Proof?

Stick a tv camera up your butt, the proof will be in there.  ::)
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Post by: buffdnet on April 09, 2010, 10:09:17 AM
A couple of mates that I went to university with are deadly serious about becoming steely eyed dealers of Israeli based death. Before that it was training for a triathlon and next it will probably be crossfit.

Anything to block out the fact that they sit behind a desk all day.
good stuff right there. switch supps as quick too. salesmans dream
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Post by: Captain Equipoise on April 09, 2010, 10:28:20 AM
LOL, some people are beyond delusional.. I've done martial arts for 18 years, I'll take a gun over a gi anytime

half these idiots that try these self defense techniques end up on the evening news and in the coroner's with gunshot wounds, I'll stick to my glock thank you.
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Post by: DK II on April 09, 2010, 10:35:22 AM
LOL, some people are beyond delusional.. I've done martial arts for 18 years, I'll take a gun over a gi anytime

half these idiots that try these self defense techniques end up on the evening news and in the coroner's with gunshot wounds, I'll stick to my glock thank you.


And even if you cannot carry a gun with you all the time, if you get into a fight with someone, people are either:

A) Mr Asshole that has been into fights every other day of his life. He doesn't care a bit about your sorry ass, so he will use weapons, bottles or anything within reach. No Gym-Martial-Artist without real fight experience will stand against someone that hast street-fighting experience in a street fight.

B) Mr Wanna-be, who has done Fung-Shoo-Jitsu for 120 years and has the 30th black belt degree and a certificate with the malayo-chinese master's autograph on his wall. He will stand through three blows, then mumble a low "that's not in the book!" and get knocked out.
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Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 09, 2010, 10:44:45 AM
And even if you cannot carry a gun with you all the time, if you get into a fight with someone, people are either:

A) Mr Asshole that has been into fights every other day of his life. He doesn't care a bit about your sorry ass, so he will use weapons, bottles or anything within reach. No Gym-Martial-Artist without real fight experience will stand against someone that hast street-fighting experience in a street fight.

B) Mr Wanna-be, who has done Fung-Shoo-Jitsu for 120 years and has the 30th black belt degree and a certificate with the malayo-chinese master's autograph on his wall. He will stand through three blows, then mumble a low "that's not in the book!" and get knocked out.

Bingo.  Martial arts is choreographed fighting.  People talk about BJJ but that is bullshit, because what are you going to do?  Put a guy into a body lock on the ground during a street fight?  Then what?  his buddy will stomp on you while you're laying there in a crab hold.  It's amazing how many MMA guys I see get fucked up at bars and clubs by normal looking dudes that have a chip on their shoulder.  I remember one little dude mouthing off about his MMA skills and threatening some dude in a bar and this dude's friend just whacks the mma fool right in the head with a beer bottle knocking him out.  That MMA goon probably has spent thousands of dollars in training, gear, scivation supps, Tapout shirts and all it took was a 10 cent empty bottle of beer to knock him out.  fucking pathetic.
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Post by: DK II on April 09, 2010, 10:53:50 AM
Bingo.  Martial arts is choreographed fighting.  People talk about BJJ but that is bullshit, because what are you going to do?  Put a guy into a body lock on the ground during a street fight?  Then what?  his buddy will stomp on you while you're laying there in a crab hold.  It's amazing how many MMA guys I see get fucked up at bars and clubs by normal looking dudes that have a chip on their shoulder.  I remember one little dude mouthing off about his MMA skills and threatening some dude in a bar and this dude's friend just whacks the mma fool right in the head with a beer bottle knocking him out.  That MMA goon probably has spent thousands of dollars in training, gear, scivation supps, Tapout shirts and all it took was a 10 cent empty bottle of beer to knock him out.  fucking pathetic.

spot on.

The other thing is that no matter how hardcore you are in the gym, i have never seen a Gym-Martial-Artist that could really seriously hurt someone in a real fight on purpose, and i think they are really rare.

That means, now what, you have the other guy in an arm lock, then you wait for him to tapout?? The martial artist will not break the arm, he simply is not trained to do that. Maybe he will if it's a really serious life-or-death-situation, but in the normal bar fight he will be afraid of the consequences.
The street fighter doesn't give a shit if you lose your eye-sight because of a broken bottle in your face.

Title: Re: krav maga owns karate.
Post by: Captain Equipoise on April 09, 2010, 10:54:02 AM
Bingo.  Martial arts is choreographed fighting.  People talk about BJJ but that is bullshit, because what are you going to do?  Put a guy into a body lock on the ground during a street fight?  Then what?  his buddy will stomp on you while you're laying there in a crab hold.  It's amazing how many MMA guys I see get fucked up at bars and clubs by normal looking dudes that have a chip on their shoulder.  I remember one little dude mouthing off about his MMA skills and threatening some dude in a bar and this dude's friend just whacks the mma fool right in the head with a beer bottle knocking him out.  That MMA goon probably has spent thousands of dollars in training, gear, scivation supps, Tapout shirts and all it took was a 10 cent empty bottle of beer to knock him out.  fucking pathetic.

I agree completely, I did 3 years of karate (first martial art I took) when I was 12 and it's great for tournaments and point fighting (hell I'll even go as far as it's good for reflexes, flexibility and discipline) but it's close to useless when in a real streetfight, I also did a few months of military type training that's designed for special forces like krav maga and systema which I found much more effective then sport type martial arts like karate, kung fu, tae kwon do aikido, etc.   after 18 years I believe I got the most out of systema, muay thai, boxing and krav maga but in an armed situation I would still just give up my wallet, unless I was 1000% sure that I had a chance or the guy was really close and not paying attention, otherwise screw it.
Title: Re: krav maga owns karate.
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on April 09, 2010, 11:32:18 AM
 Stupid people.
 
1- Between a gun and a gi...of course if you have a gun you will win.
2- Most of the time you don't carry a gun... do you? how are you going to defend yourself?
3- Nobody its looking for a fight. but sh*t happens.
4- Self defense techniques are most used for anti terror, war that kind of stuff.kind situation that you know that the other guy its going to kill you. I believe that is better to be trained and know how to react to the situation.
5- Army,FBI and the police they must be really dumb to teach self defense.
6- By the way donkeykong please answer my question.
7- And mon of steele you should go to Brazil.

 Do you carry a gun 24/7 365 days a year?
 Can you carry a gun 24/7 365 days a year?

 Ps: Anti terror and war...that's not like being robed in the streets, there's a huge difference.
Title: Re: krav maga owns karate.
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on April 09, 2010, 11:36:29 AM
And even if you cannot carry a gun with you all the time, if you get into a fight with someone, people are either:

A) Mr Asshole that has been into fights every other day of his life. He doesn't care a bit about your sorry ass, so he will use weapons, bottles or anything within reach. No Gym-Martial-Artist without real fight experience will stand against someone that hast street-fighting experience in a street fight.

B) Mr Wanna-be, who has done Fung-Shoo-Jitsu for 120 years and has the 30th black belt degree and a certificate with the malayo-chinese master's autograph on his wall. He will stand through three blows, then mumble a low "that's not in the book!" and get knocked out.

Rofl!
Title: Re: krav maga owns karate.
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on April 09, 2010, 11:37:32 AM
Bingo.  Martial arts is choreographed fighting.  People talk about BJJ but that is bullshit, because what are you going to do?  Put a guy into a body lock on the ground during a street fight?  Then what?  his buddy will stomp on you while you're laying there in a crab hold.  It's amazing how many MMA guys I see get fucked up at bars and clubs by normal looking dudes that have a chip on their shoulder.  I remember one little dude mouthing off about his MMA skills and threatening some dude in a bar and this dude's friend just whacks the mma fool right in the head with a beer bottle knocking him out.  That MMA goon probably has spent thousands of dollars in training, gear, scivation supps, Tapout shirts and all it took was a 10 cent empty bottle of beer to knock him out.  fucking pathetic.

even more ROFL!!!
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Post by: JOHN MATRIX on April 09, 2010, 11:41:19 AM
LOL, some people are beyond delusional.. I've done martial arts for 18 years, I'll take a gun over a gi anytime

half these idiots that try these self defense techniques end up on the evening news and in the coroner's with gunshot wounds, I'll stick to my glock thank you.


LMAO this is so true. i realize no amount of working out/martial arts is going to make me a match for a 240lb, coldblooded hardened street brawler, thats why guns were invented. if i cant shoot them with a gun, then im going to just run away, and i can run pretty fast. better than getting killed or having to deal with court legal bullshit.
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Post by: SamoanIrishman on April 09, 2010, 02:10:24 PM
And even if you cannot carry a gun with you all the time, if you get into a fight with someone, people are either:

A) Mr Asshole that has been into fights every other day of his life. He doesn't care a bit about your sorry ass, so he will use weapons, bottles or anything within reach. No Gym-Martial-Artist without real fight experience will stand against someone that hast street-fighting experience in a street fight.

B) Mr Wanna-be, who has done Fung-Shoo-Jitsu for 120 years and has the 30th black belt degree and a certificate with the malayo-chinese master's autograph on his wall. He will stand through three blows, then mumble a low "that's not in the book!" and get knocked out.

So f-ing true!!! I love the guys who talk shit and you tell them to shut it just to have them reply "try it tough guy, I'm a (enter number here) degree blackbelt in (enter martial fart here)" and before he can even finish the sentence pop him right in the forehead and watch his ass crumble to the ground unconscience.

Where I come from there is no "locks"..you keep swinging till they stop moving or someone pulls you off them..period. Hence why its so important to make sure you are acting like self defense cause one you start don't stop till you're made to.

Key to survival in reallity is knowing when NOT to fight. I don't care if you are MMA expert, if there are 3 douches trying to start a fight back down...if someone with a gun / knife trying to rob you give them your shit...at least till the turn to run then pull your .40, yell stop or I'll shoot and hope he turns just enough that you can double tap him center mass....but then again is that even realistic?

Good decisions will secure your survival the majority of the time.
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Post by: DK II on April 09, 2010, 02:16:49 PM
So f-ing true!!! I love the guys who talk shit and you tell them to shut it just to have them reply "try it tough guy, I'm a (enter number here) degree blackbelt in (enter martial fart here)" and before he can even finish the sentence pop him right in the forehead and watch his ass crumble to the ground unconscience.

LOL!!

These people spend 35 years in a DOJO without ever getting really punched or punching someone even one time in their whole lives!
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Post by: drkaje on April 09, 2010, 02:27:06 PM
LOL!!

These people spend 35 years in a DOJO without ever getting really punched or punching someone even one time in their whole lives!

People shouldn't waste time or money on schools with no contact.
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Post by: SamoanIrishman on April 09, 2010, 02:32:35 PM
People shouldn't waste time or money on schools with no contact.

Yep..a year in a REAL boxing gym sparing full contact will beat the average 10yrs of martial "arts" guy
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Post by: DK II on April 09, 2010, 02:40:38 PM
Yep..a year in a REAL boxing gym sparing full contact will beat the average 10yrs of martial "arts" guy

True, but even most "full contact" martial artists cannot survive a street fight.

"full contact" in the ring is very different from full contact with the purpose to really destroy someone.

At least a boxer or any full contact martial artist should be able to take a few shots, but even he will have a lot of problems with someone fighting dirty and brutal.
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Post by: drkaje on April 09, 2010, 02:45:56 PM
True, but even most "full contact" martial artists cannot survive a street fight.

"full contact" in the ring is very different from full contact with the purpose to really destroy someone.

At least a boxer or any full contact martial artist should be able to take a few shots, but even he will have a lot of problems with someone fighting dirty and brutal.

I just believe guys who train with contact fear getting hit less. Less fear improves your chances of survival in life and death situations. That's just one man's opinion.
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Post by: SamoanIrishman on April 09, 2010, 02:53:49 PM
Agreed. My point was from a realistic point if you had twin expert street brawlers one fighting a boxer and another a martial artist, the boxer would more than likely survive longer and get some good shots in.

The average joe that you would get into a fight with isn't an "expert" street brawler but more than likely some douche that had too much to drink and is now feeling "brave" in front of his boys / girlfriend.

Chances of knocking his ass out with a round house kick to the head in close quarter fighting vs. a barage of punches are slim to none.

If I was going to fight more than one guy (and I have on several occations as a bouncer) sorry to say I don't believe in a "fair fight" or being a "gentleman". If I felt I was in imminent danger or was assulted..I'm picking up a stool, bottle and will hit you in the throat, poke in the eye and smash your sack. You and your buddys may get some shots in...maybe even give me a good ass whooping, but I'm gonna get mine in I PROMISE.

If your going to fight like a real man, expect to hurt as well. Only in movies can you beat someone up your size and strength and walk away unharmed.

Fierceness and endurance will win that fight in the end.

Title: Re: krav maga owns karate.
Post by: DK II on April 09, 2010, 03:05:41 PM
Agreed. My point was from a realistic point if you had twin expert street brawlers one fighting a boxer and another a martial artist, the boxer would more than likely survive longer and get some good shots in.

The average joe that you would get into a fight with isn't an "expert" street brawler but more than likely some douche that had too much to drink and is now feeling "brave" in front of his boys / girlfriend.

Chances of knocking his ass out with a round house kick to the head in close quarter fighting vs. a barage of punches are slim to none.

If I was going to fight more than one guy (and I have on several occations as a bouncer) sorry to say I don't believe in a "fair fight" or being a "gentleman". If I felt I was in imminent danger or was assulted..I'm picking up a stool, bottle and will hit you in the throat, poke in the eye and smash your sack. You and your buddys may get some shots in...maybe even give me a good ass whooping, but I'm gonna get mine in I PROMISE.

If your going to fight like a real man, expect to hurt as well. Only in movies can you beat someone up your size and strength and walk away unharmed.

Fierceness and endurance will win that fight in the end.



Good post, and so much to "krav maga anti terror fighting''-bullshit.
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Post by: drkaje on April 09, 2010, 03:09:39 PM
Good post, and so much to "krav maga anti terror fighting''-bullshit.

Krav Maga goes for high percentage targets so it shouldn't be dismissed out of hand.
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Post by: The Showstoppa on April 09, 2010, 03:11:46 PM
Krav Maga goes for high percentage targets so it shouldn't be dismissed out of hand.

I prefer a .45 or a vertical suplex...
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Post by: drkaje on April 09, 2010, 03:17:12 PM
I prefer a .45 or a vertical suplex...

I've been looking for another .45. Might go an HK or a Colt.
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Post by: The Showstoppa on April 09, 2010, 03:18:26 PM
I've been looking for another .45. Might go an HK or a Colt.

i have a thompson .45......really like it.
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Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on April 09, 2010, 03:50:21 PM
 Since nobody could answer my question... i will presume that, yes you can carry a gun 24/ 7 365 days a year.
 They will carry a gun deep inside their asses.  ;D
 How funny is that a bunch of big guys here, but when the subject is to defend themselves..."Oh i need a gun"
 And a street fighter guy beating a martial arts guy or a MMA guy in the streets?  lol stupid people.
 Come to Brazil let's see how tough you are. oh!!! btw, since you can not bring your gun... lol you're f*cked.

  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D roflmao.
 
 

 F*ck i love this video.
 
 
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Post by: Captain Equipoise on April 09, 2010, 03:53:10 PM
Since nobody could answer my question... i will presume that, yes you can carry a gun 24/ 7 365 days a year.
 They will carry a gun deep inside their asses.  ;D
 How funny is that a bunch of big guys here, but when the subject is to defend themselves..."Oh i need a gun"
 And a street fighter guy beating a martial arts guy or a MMA guy in the streets?  lol stupid people.
 Come to Brazil let's see how tough you are. oh!!! btw, since you can not bring your gun... lol you're f*cked.
 
 

 F*ck i love this video.
 
 

1) Why would any of us want to visit that shithole ?! (sorry but it is one of the top 3 places for kidnappings and robberies)

2) How do u know none of us don't carry a weapon 24/7 ?

3) Why don't you come to New York and try that shit, you will leave in a body bag.. in NY little old ladies carry handguns, let alone criminals and normal adults.
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Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on April 09, 2010, 03:59:55 PM
1) Why would any of us want to visit that shithole ?! (sorry but it is one of the top 3 places for kidnappings and robberies)

2) How do u know none of us don't carry a weapon 24/7 ?

3) Why don't you come to New York and try that shit, you will leave in a body bag.. in NY little old ladies carry handguns, let alone criminals and normal adults.


 1-There's no kidnappings and robberies in America?
 
 2- That's my point, how many people can carry a gun 24/7? go it now? ;)

 3- Old ladies carrying a gun to defend herself ? she is right, but a man relaying on one all the time? c'mon man up.

 4- Renzo's place in NY its full of women learning BJJ.

 See im not against guns, my point is since most people can not carry a gun all the time.

 What are you going to do to protect yourself?

 Most of parents in Brazil put their daughters to learn some kind  of self defense.
 
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Post by: drkaje on April 09, 2010, 04:09:25 PM
Since nobody could answer my question... i will presume that, yes you can carry a gun 24/ 7 365 days a year.
 They will carry a gun deep inside their asses.  ;D
 How funny is that a bunch of big guys here, but when the subject is to defend themselves..."Oh i need a gun"
 And a street fighter guy beating a martial arts guy or a MMA guy in the streets?  lol stupid people.
 Come to Brazil let's see how tough you are. oh!!! btw, since you can not bring your gun... lol you're f*cked.

  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D roflmao.
 
 F*ck i love this video.
 
 

I thought the gun question was a joke. I have a CC permit but really don't feel carrying 24/7 is a good thing because people end up using them as crutches.

Another thing to consider is that all situations don't require deadly force. People need to study knife and hand to hand stuff so they have multiple options.

If you're ever really bored look at some EDC videos on Youtube. Some of those guys are geared to fight zombies and shit. :)
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Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on April 09, 2010, 04:17:59 PM
 People laugh at Krav Maga... why we don't have Krav Maga competition?
 Because is lethal.
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 09, 2010, 04:25:20 PM
I had to register my hands as lethal weapon in 23 states including New York.
X2
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Post by: drkaje on April 11, 2010, 06:25:03 PM
Title: Re: krav maga owns karate.
Post by: SamoanIrishman on April 12, 2010, 09:29:34 AM
1-There's no kidnappings and robberies in America?
 
 2- That's my point, how many people can carry a gun 24/7? go it now? ;)

 3- Old ladies carrying a gun to defend herself ? she is right, but a man relaying on one all the time? c'mon man up.

 4- Renzo's place in NY its full of women learning BJJ.

 See im not against guns, my point is since most people can not carry a gun all the time.

 What are you going to do to protect yourself?

 Most of parents in Brazil put their daughters to learn some kind  of self defense.
 

1. Yes, 95% of which are pedofiles.

2. Everyone I know that has a carry permit has their gun on them the 90%of the time. Most also carry a knife as I do.

3. It's not about being a coward, it's about being prepared. The criminals are cowards and will almost ALWAYS have a weapon. Just like all the "Gangsters" these days..to scared to take an ass whooping. So if you see a homied out, hippity hopping, 5'6" 134lbs "gangster" who is talking mad shit to you when and if you visit this great free country, walk because there is a reason he is that brave and it's probably tucked in the back of his waist and your krav / JuJitsu won't get withing 10 ft of him before he "bust a cap" in your ass.

You assume that everyone you meet in a confrontation isn't armed..maybe in Brazil no, but here in the US most are in some form.

I agree that learning to fight is a valuable skill but what we are arguing is a fighing skill that is REALISTIC. Krav may be "deadly" but I have yet to see ANYONE that claims a martial art stick to it when engages in an actual street fight. At first they do and then after a few well placed face shots they "break form" and just rush the guy punching wildly..usually falling to the ground where they get topped and pounded into the sidewalk.

Just like the Kiai Master video above..everyone claims its deadly and may even shoot a video showing the "invisible black touch of death" move or whatever but when it comes to the real world, a well placed hit to the face ends the fight in 10 seconds.

Make sense? Hard to triple roundhouse, krav poke me in the eye after the initial 3-5 second punching barage that has swollen your eyes, cut your eyebrow, broken your nose or ALL of the above...assuming I haven't knocked his ass out. Though I have to admit, if the guy was a real douche I have been known to punch him in the face a couple of times after knocking him out just so when he wakes up he has something to look at in the mirror for a couple of weeks and remind him that he isn't as tough as he thought he was and needs to take more KravjudoTai-whatever lessons.
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Post by: no one on April 12, 2010, 09:35:39 AM
but when it comes to the real world, a will placed hit to the face ends the fight in 10 seconds.

this.
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Post by: devilsmile on April 12, 2010, 09:43:44 AM
was a 170 lbs twink that told me he did krav maga. I told him show me what you got then in a joking manner then he looked at me 100% serious and said he could kill me if he used krav maga on me  ;D

seems like only this type of insecure losers are drawn to it

I literally bursted in laughter after reading this :D