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Do any of the pros anymore do wide grip chins? Doesn't seem like they do. Is it because 1) too heavy in the off-season, 2) not strong enough pre-contest mode, or 3) too lazy. I think they are a great exercise; however, it doesn't seem like many pros today utilize them often. Seems like many more pros in the past used them. Then again, maybe I am way off.
I googled Wide Grip chins and 2 photos came up of Arnold and Franco. No current pros came up.
(http://www.emusclor.com/img/exercises/30-arnold-schwarzenegger-dorsal-chin.jpg)
(http://www.fit-world.net/bodyprtexe/back/wgripchinbeh.jpg)
Discuss.
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I think part of it is that you can't find the proper bar in most gyms.
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Overated = Palms Up chins, pulldowns or rows close grip = Dorain Yates approved. Best back of all time.
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Do any of the pros anymore do wide grip chins? Doesn't seem like they do. Is it because 1) too heavy in the off-season, 2) not strong enough pre-contest mode, or 3) too lazy. I think they are a great exercise; however, it doesn't seem like many pros today utilize them often. Seems like many more pros in the past used them. Then again, maybe I am way off.
I googled Wide Grip chins and 2 photos came up of Arnold and Franco. No current pros came up.
(http://www.emusclor.com/img/exercises/30-arnold-schwarzenegger-dorsal-chin.jpg)
(http://www.fit-world.net/bodyprtexe/back/wgripchinbeh.jpg)
Discuss.
The "machines" have taken over.
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I could give a shit what today's pros do. I do wides every back day. First thing. One set bodyweight four sets wit a dumbbell between my feet. Then on to dead lifts.
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Overated = Palms Up chins, pulldowns or rows close grip = Dorain Yates approved. Best back of all time.
I do barbell rows "yates style", and they are great. But I always include wide grip chins into my work out. Don't you think its a stretch saying they are over-rated?
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I could give a shit what today's pros do. I do wides every back day. First thing. One set bodyweight four sets wit a dumbbell between my feet. Then on to dead lifts.
Well, I don't care what they do either. I still do wide grip chins. I was just curious why they don't do them.
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just like any other exercise, it a tool in your arsenal
people like to act like its one exercise that makes or breaks you, like you cannot have a good back without dead lifting, cannot have a great chest without flat bench, and cant have great legs without squatting
it has its place, but doing wide grip chins or not doing wide grip chins, is not going to be what lost you the olympia
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just like any other exercise, it a tool in your arsenal
people like to act like its one exercise that makes or breaks you, like you cannot have a good back without dead lifting, cannot have a great chest without flat bench, and cant have great legs without squatting
it has its place, but doing wide grip chins or not doing wide grip chins, is not going to be what lost you the olympia
Of course not. It just seems like they are rarely utilized, as opposed to often, or at least sometimes.
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It's a dying art, my friend
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I do barbell rows "yates style", and they are great. But I always include wide grip chins into my work out. Don't you think its a stretch saying they are over-rated?
Check with Dorian he didnt do them.
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I like chins but the shoulder isn't a fan, LOL! Also, the ROM is a little too limited.
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Check with Dorian he didnt do them.
True. But with his genetics he could have probably gotten away with not doing them.
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I like chins but the shoulder isn't a fan, LOL! Also, the ROM is a little too limited.
I never go to wide anyway. I am only 5'5", so I tend to keep my arms not so spread apart. Improves the ROM slightly.
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True. But with his genetics he could have probably gotten away with not doing them.
Thats a mute point, genetics or no genetics the human body has the same anatomy.
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I never go to wide anyway. I am only 5'5", so I tend to keep my arms not so spread apart. Improves the ROM slightly.
I'm 6'2" with long arms. Also had a partial Teres tear so there's some instability that needs regular rehab exercises.
Mr Nobody's silent point aside, some people have better insertions. I have high lats so deads and bent rows seem to work a lot better. :)
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Thats a mute point, genetics or no genetics the human body has the same anatomy.
Ahhhh, good point. Maybe its psychological. It just doesn't feel right when I don't do them. They are always my first exercise when I train back.
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Do any of the pros anymore do wide grip chins? Doesn't seem like they do. Is it because 1) too heavy in the off-season, 2) not strong enough pre-contest mode, or 3) too lazy. I think they are a great exercise; however, it doesn't seem like many pros today utilize them often. Seems like many more pros in the past used them. Then again, maybe I am way off.
I googled Wide Grip chins and 2 photos came up of Arnold and Franco. No current pros came up.
(http://www.emusclor.com/img/exercises/30-arnold-schwarzenegger-dorsal-chin.jpg)
(http://www.fit-world.net/bodyprtexe/back/wgripchinbeh.jpg)
Discuss.
From 4:41...
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;)
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8)
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Good stuff :D 8)
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I sort of take my statement back. Joel Stubbs claimed to do 3 different versions of chin ups (wide, underhand, palms inward)
:o :o
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cBZtB4WC6NA/SdKbgHY6s5I/AAAAAAAAAII/jZnGBF5_fO8/s400/joel-stubbs.jpg)
(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/7606/stubbs2007ironman.jpg)
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Good stuff :D 8)
Mmm, aren't we supposed to get one pic of his wife for every three pics of himself??
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Joel Stubbs is ridiculous.
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What was this thread about again?
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i don't really like them that wide. feels like I'm going to tear my lat. better safe than sorry..
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What was this thread about again?
:D :D
You sillygoose.
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i don't really like them that wide. feels like I'm going to tear my lat. better safe than sorry..
Tear your lat with your bodyweight? ::) How much your weight? 400? ???
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Very popular back in the day. Roy Callendar used to do a ton of these with 2) 150 lb dumbells hanging from his waist.
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this midgets trying to escape from its leash!!!!!
bench
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this midgets trying to escape from its leash!!!!!
bench
Hey, us short people are not midgets, we are "vertically challenged" :D :D
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You are better off with a closer grip, palms up. The wider you go, the more you reduce the range of motion.
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this midgets trying to escape from its leash!!!!!
bench
ROTFLMAO....hahahahahaha, ok that was funny ;D
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I do wide grip chins off everything
can't get past 24 though
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"wide grip chins" doesnt equal a "wide back".
If you want to fuck up your shoulders, then yes do "wide grip chins".
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From 4:41...
Who is the huge dude?
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I always do mine with hands a bit past shoulder width, what extra benefit does doing them wide bring?
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Thats a mute point, genetics or no genetics the human body has the same anatomy.
x2
If you put your hand on your lat's and mimmick the action of a narrower grip vs the w-i-d-e grip you will see what is better for stimulation..to wide a grip limits range of motion and robs the lats of growth inducing contraction.
Arnold diddnt just do wide grip chins he did all grips.
As unsung says its just a tool like any other exercise.
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"wide grip chins" doesnt equal a "wide back".
If you want to fuck up your shoulders, then yes do "wide grip chins".
If you do them to the rear, elbows-wide. To the front, pulling to the chin, you're ok.
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Do sternum chins you pussies.
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True. But with his genetics he could have probably gotten away with not doing them.
he didn't do them due to insertion points, he argued that everyone gets a better lat stretch from close grip pull ups/downs.
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Who is the huge dude?
Ryan Watson NPC competitor.
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Dorian Yates says that wide grip isn't good for back because you're using mainly arms and teres.
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Tear your lat with your bodyweight? ::) How much your weight? 400? ???
250 (no not exactly lean)
what you did in the vid i wouldn't call wide grip chins. try this wide and see how it feels.
(http://www.emusclor.com/img/exercises/30-arnold-schwarzenegger-dorsal-chin.jpg)