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Obama acting like a Nobel Peace Prize laureate
Catarina Alexon
April 12th, 2010
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2567/3706143399_f90ca4b9dd.jpg)
Obama and Medvedev seek even deeper cuts in nuclear weapons
than what they signed last week, but such an agreement will be
much harder to reach. Photo: Flickr - Mika V. Stetsovsky
Many of us, even Obama himself, thought the Norwegian Nobel Peace Prize Committee awarded him the price prematurely. But by signing a landmark strategic nuclear disarmament treaty with Russia he is actually beginning to live up to the committees expectations.
Start II, signed by Obama and Medvedev, a few days ago is a step in the right direction. The arms treaty, if ratified, will cut strategic nuclear arsenals deployed by the former Cold War enemies by 30 percent within seven years, but still leave each with enough power to destroy the other. It also re-establishes an inspection regime that lapsed in December and could serve as a foundation for deeper reductions later.
Obama has spoken vividly about his vision of a world without nuclear weapons. It is a laudable goal that will unfortunately not be achieved during his presidency. Probably not for a long time after that either. But Obama is taking important steps to make the world a safer place and increase US credibility as it tries to constrain the nuclear ambitions of Iran, North Korea and others.
Signing the treaty confirms that Russia and the US, with 95 percent of the world’s nuclear weapons, are taking their disarmament obligations seriously. It will also put the two presidents in a better position to put pressure on Iran, North Korea and other countries attempting to build up nuclear arsenals not complying with the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Or as Obama himself put it “We are working together at the United Nations Security Council to pass strong sanctions on Iran and we will not tolerate actions that flout the NPT,”.
The treaty is the first major step of a “reset” announced by the administration a year ago and welcomed by Moscow after nearly a decade of deteriorating ties. The Kremlin’s top foreign policy adviser called it “a huge event that will have an extremely profound and positive effect on the way our countries deal with many other issues.”
The signing is a diplomatic achievement for Obama and a chance to portray the United States as a constructive global leader after years of dismay at U.S. foreign policy. It puts some substance behind Obama’s pledge to seek “the peace and security of a world without nuclear weapons”.
Obama and Medvedev seek even deeper cuts in nuclear weapons than what they signed last week, but such an agreement will be much harder to reach. Unfortunately we can not un-do the invention of nuclear arms and in the world as it is it will be difficult to make further reductions, let alone abolish, nuclear arms.
Already JFK and Chrustjov were sleepless during the Cuba crisis 50 years ago worrying about the prospect of a nuclear war wiping out hundreds of thousands of people, or more. Today the world has even more nuclear weapons and the prospect of an armageddon is much higher. Consequently Mr. Obama has wisely made the prevention of nuclear terrorism and proliferation a central strategic priority. And the administration decision to lead by example by even stating that the US “will not develop new nuclear warheads” is commendable.
Mr. Medvedev called the treaty “a truly historic event” that would “open a new page” in Russian-American relations. “What matters most is that this is a win-win situation,” he said. “No one stands to lose from this agreement. I believe that this is a typical feature of our cooperation. Both parties have won.”
President Obama’s far-sighted initiative in trying to reduce the threat of nuclear weapons by reducing their number and proliferation and by stating that the United States will not retaliate with nuclear weapons against nonnuclear countries should go a long way toward preventing a nuclear armageddon. Combined with vigilance, the policies are worthy actions of a Nobel Peace Prize laureate. One New York Times reader got it right when he wrote “Hail to Presidents Obama and Medvedev for inking an agreement to end the production of nuclear weapons and eventually abolish them”. Most of us would like that to happen, and the new treaty is a step in the right direction.
Catarina Alexon is an international businesswoman and writer
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Just like arafat. What a freaking joke.
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You're right, what a f*n joke.
But Obama is taking important steps to make the world a safer place
...Just like Al and Jimmy.
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If the Russians are backing this, then they won or got over on us.
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No communist left behind.
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You're right, what a f*n joke.
...Just like Al and Jimmy.
What the . . . ?! It's a mightymouse sighting. :)
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Bump.
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Russian Duma Leader Wants Obama Stripped of Nobel Peace Prize
Forbes ^ | Monday March 21, 2011
The controversial leader of the Russian Liberal Party, Vladimir Zhirinovsky, said in a statement on Monday that he will ask the Nobel Committee to strip President Barack Obama of the Nobel Peace Prize.
Zhirinovsky said in the letter that the prize, awarded in 2009 for Obama’s historic presidential victory and his work on nuclear non proliferation, was now hypocritical in light of recent missile strikes in Libya. The US and some allies fired Tomahawk missiles into Libya on Sunday when Moammar Gadhafi failed to obide by his own cease-fire agreement, made with the UN Security Council early Friday.
(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.forbes.com ...
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HA, nice bump. 8)
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He is one of the luckiest persons in American history.
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LMFAO at the pic
hahahahaha thats a good one
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/03/20/michael_moore_to_obama_return_your_nobel_peace_prize.html
Michael Moore tweets that President Obama should return his Nobel Peace Prize after he approved military strikes on Libya.
Everyone is turning on Obama... :o
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He'll still have his 40 or so percent who will support whatever he does.
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Obama acting like a Nobel Peace Prize laureate
Catarina Alexon
April 12th, 2010
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2567/3706143399_f90ca4b9dd.jpg)
Obama and Medvedev seek even deeper cuts in nuclear weapons
than what they signed last week, but such an agreement will be
much harder to reach. Photo: Flickr - Mika V. Stetsovsky
Many of us, even Obama himself, thought the Norwegian Nobel Peace Prize Committee awarded him the price prematurely. But by signing a landmark strategic nuclear disarmament treaty with Russia he is actually beginning to live up to the committees expectations.
Start II, signed by Obama and Medvedev, a few days ago is a step in the right direction. The arms treaty, if ratified, will cut strategic nuclear arsenals deployed by the former Cold War enemies by 30 percent within seven years, but still leave each with enough power to destroy the other. It also re-establishes an inspection regime that lapsed in December and could serve as a foundation for deeper reductions later.
Obama has spoken vividly about his vision of a world without nuclear weapons. It is a laudable goal that will unfortunately not be achieved during his presidency. Probably not for a long time after that either. But Obama is taking important steps to make the world a safer place and increase US credibility as it tries to constrain the nuclear ambitions of Iran, North Korea and others.
Signing the treaty confirms that Russia and the US, with 95 percent of the world’s nuclear weapons, are taking their disarmament obligations seriously. It will also put the two presidents in a better position to put pressure on Iran, North Korea and other countries attempting to build up nuclear arsenals not complying with the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Or as Obama himself put it “We are working together at the United Nations Security Council to pass strong sanctions on Iran and we will not tolerate actions that flout the NPT,”.
The treaty is the first major step of a “reset” announced by the administration a year ago and welcomed by Moscow after nearly a decade of deteriorating ties. The Kremlin’s top foreign policy adviser called it “a huge event that will have an extremely profound and positive effect on the way our countries deal with many other issues.”
The signing is a diplomatic achievement for Obama and a chance to portray the United States as a constructive global leader after years of dismay at U.S. foreign policy. It puts some substance behind Obama’s pledge to seek “the peace and security of a world without nuclear weapons”.
Obama and Medvedev seek even deeper cuts in nuclear weapons than what they signed last week, but such an agreement will be much harder to reach. Unfortunately we can not un-do the invention of nuclear arms and in the world as it is it will be difficult to make further reductions, let alone abolish, nuclear arms.
Already JFK and Chrustjov were sleepless during the Cuba crisis 50 years ago worrying about the prospect of a nuclear war wiping out hundreds of thousands of people, or more. Today the world has even more nuclear weapons and the prospect of an armageddon is much higher. Consequently Mr. Obama has wisely made the prevention of nuclear terrorism and proliferation a central strategic priority. And the administration decision to lead by example by even stating that the US “will not develop new nuclear warheads” is commendable.
Mr. Medvedev called the treaty “a truly historic event” that would “open a new page” in Russian-American relations. “What matters most is that this is a win-win situation,” he said. “No one stands to lose from this agreement. I believe that this is a typical feature of our cooperation. Both parties have won.”
President Obama’s far-sighted initiative in trying to reduce the threat of nuclear weapons by reducing their number and proliferation and by stating that the United States will not retaliate with nuclear weapons against nonnuclear countries should go a long way toward preventing a nuclear armageddon. Combined with vigilance, the policies are worthy actions of a Nobel Peace Prize laureate. One New York Times reader got it right when he wrote “Hail to Presidents Obama and Medvedev for inking an agreement to end the production of nuclear weapons and eventually abolish them”. Most of us would like that to happen, and the new treaty is a step in the right direction.
Catarina Alexon is an international businesswoman and writer
Beautiful article..thanks
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Are you gay or something? Who says that?
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/03/20/michael_moore_to_obama_return_your_nobel_peace_prize.html
Michael Moore tweets that President Obama should return his Nobel Peace Prize after he approved military strikes on Libya.
Everyone is turning on Obama... :o
this might actually help him...moore is one of the more hated pundents in the country so its probably a good thing that he and his ilk dont like you
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this might actually help him...moore is one of the more hated pundents in the country so its probably a good thing that he and his ilk dont like you
True. Your enemies and critics help define you.
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Obama On Energy Sec Chu: "He Actually Deserved His Nobel Prize" (video)
RealClearPolitics ^ | RealClearPolitics [/b]
Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 12:24:15 PM
President Obama speaks on energy at Georgetown University in Washington, D.C.
Obama's Energy Secretary Steven Chu has a Nobel prize in physics.
(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...
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SO WHY THE FUCK DID HE ACCEPT IT IN THE FIRST PLACE?
Unreal. This arrogant disgusting marxist piece of trash took a prize he kew he did not deserveand deprived a well deserving person just so he could stroke his ego.
FFFFUUUUBBBBOOOOO! ! ! !
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Obama visit: Australia agrees US Marine deployment planAdvertisementJulia Gillard and Barack Obama announce details of the new military arrangement
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-15739995
Australia has agreed to host a full US Marine task force in the coming years, Prime Minister Julia Gillard has announced at a news conference with US President Barack Obama in Canberra.
She said about 250 US Marines would arrive next year, eventually being built up to 2,500 personnel.
The deployment is being seen as a move to counter China's growing influence.
But Mr Obama said the US was "stepping up its commitment to the entire Asia-Pacific", not excluding China.
"The main message that I've said, not only publicly but also privately to China, is that with their rise comes increased responsibility," he said.
"It is important for them to play by the rules of the road."
Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Liu Weimin questioned whether the move was in keeping with the region's peaceful development.
Continue reading the main story
Analysis
Jonathan Marcus
BBC Diplomatic Correspondent
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Long a close ally of Washington, Australia is set to take on a growing strategic importance for the US as Mr Obama seeks to pivot America's foreign policy away from the wider Middle East towards the Asia-Pacific region as a whole.
Australia approaches China with a degree of ambivalence. Beijing is Australia's biggest trading partner. But China's growing military reach is seen as at least a potential threat for the future.
In his speech to parliament Mr Obama will set out his vision of a new Pacific century. A subsequent trip to Darwin on Australia's north coast will symbolise the enhanced military relationship between the two countries.
It is an attempt to offset Chinese influence and to ensure that Beijing's "soft power" remains just that and does not spill over into military assertiveness.
"It may not be quite appropriate to intensify and expand military alliances and may not be in the interest of countries within this region," he was quoted as saying by AFP news agency.
The Global Times, a newspaper produced by the Communist Party-controlled People's Daily group, has been much more bellicose, says the BBC's Damian Grammaticas in Beijing.
An editorial warned it was "certain" that if "Australia uses its military bases to help the US harm Chinese interests, then Australia itself will be caught in the crossfire".
Luo Yuan, a senior officer at the People's Liberation Army's Academy of Military Sciences told the paper that while neither the US or China wanted to start a war, "if China's core interests such as its sovereignty, national security and unity are intruded on, a military conflict will be unavoidable".
Alliance honoured
The US president flew into Canberra from this weekend's Asia-Pacific Economic Co-operation (Apec) forum in Honolulu.
The visit comes as the two countries mark a 60-year security alliance.
Ms Gillard said about 250 Marines would be deployed on a rotational basis in northern Australia from next year.
"Australia will welcome deployments of a company-size rotation of 200 to 250 Marines in the Northern Territory for around six months at a time," she said.
"Over a number of years we intend to build on this relationship in a staged way to a full force of around 2,500 personnel, that is a full Marine air-ground task force."
Analysts said the deployment was the biggest in Australia since World War II.
Mr Obama said the deployment would allow the US to "meet the demands of a lot of partners in the region" in terms of training, exercises and "security architecture".
Later in his visit the US leader is due to visit a memorial in Darwin to honour US and Australian soldiers killed during World War II.
Mr Obama has twice cancelled visits to Australia in the past - in March 2010 as he worked to pass healthcare reform legislation and then in June the same year amid the Gulf of Mexico oil spill.
After his stop in Darwin, Mr Obama flies to Indonesia for a summit of Asian leaders.
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This why an award like this is so stupid.
Nobel peace price for a warmonger. What a sad joke.
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This why an award like this is so stupid.
Nobel peace price for a warmonger. What a sad joke.
still bringing the stupid I see......Obama has stated many times including to the Nobel Committee itself that in order to have peace you sometimes have to make war.....if you don't understand that then you are nuts.....Obama is not a warmonger as you put it....
you guys hate Obama so much you can't even think clearly anymore..Australia has always been an ally and we are bound to defend them by treaty...also they were there for us in Iraq
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still bringing the stupid I see......Obama has stated many times including to the Nobel Committee itself that in order to have peace you sometimes have to make war.....if you don't understand that then you are nuts.....Obama is not a warmonger as you put it....
you guys hate Obama so much you can't even think clearly anymore..Australia has always been an ally and we are bound to defend them by treaty...also they were there for us in Iraq
Right - thats like the fat slob saying that to get skinny he only needs a few more cupcakes in order to get on his diet.
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Right - thats like the fat slob saying that to get skinny he only needs a few more cupcakes in order to get on his diet.
another one bringing the stupid....aren't you tired of being dumb???????????????
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another one bringing the stupid....aren't you tired of being dumb???????????????
How is my analogy any different than the garbage you typed o kneepadder?
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How is my analogy any different than the garbage you typed o kneepadder?
I explained the situation with facts.....if you don't understand why we are protecting Australia then lets move on..you aren't smart enough to get it
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I explained the situation with facts.....if you don't understand why we are protecting Australia then lets move on..you aren't smart enough to get it
You have no facts - you have a set of kneepads for obama no matter what he does.
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You have no facts - you have a set of kneepads for obama no matter what he does.
Jesus fucking Christ....I don't know why I even respond to you any more and I don't know why I let you piss me off but here..let me explain it to you...
Fact...The United States is BOUND BY TREATY to protect Australia and New Zealand in case they are attacked....the name of this treaty is called the ANZUS PACT (ANZUS is short for United States, New Zealand and Australia)...do you dispute that???????
Fact...The United States also wants to maintain the special relationship that we have with Australia by being there for them like they were here for us in IRAQ...Do you Goddamn dispute that the Australians were one of our steadfast allies in IRAQ????????
Fact...As the Article YOU YOURSELF POSTED, China is growing militarily and Australia feels threatened....thus they need reassurance from the US that we will be there for them if china decides to threaten them militarily....do you dispute this as well????????
it has nothing to do with Kneepadding...ANY GODDAMN U.S. PRESIDENT WOULD DO THE SAME!!!
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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Nice meltdown - but do me a favor sign up for the USMC and go to Austrailia ok and defend them from the kangaroos?
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Nice meltdown - but do me a favor sign up for the USMC and go to Austrailia ok and defend them from the kangaroos?
its never a meltdown when its the truth...sorry I had to school you again idiot
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its never a meltdown when its the truth...sorry I had to school you again idiot
Who is going to pay for this?
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Who is going to pay for this?
I'm sure Australia will help defray the costs, but 2,500 troops isn't a bank-breaker anyway..and its a very cheap way of deterring the Chinese
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I'm sure Australia will help defray the costs, but 2,500 troops isn't a bank-breaker anyway..and its a very cheap way of deterring the Chinese
LMAO at the global strategic general.
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LMAO at the global strategic general.
He's done a great job so far....proof of that is that the Repubs running for office HAVE NOT OPENLY BEEN CRITICAL OF OBAMA IN TERMS OF FOREIGN POLICY..and when they have criticized him for Libya or Iraq the criticism goes no where..the public knows Obama has been a great commander in chief
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still bringing the stupid I see......Obama has stated many times including to the Nobel Committee itself that in order to have peace you sometimes have to make war.....if you don't understand that then you are nuts.....Obama is not a warmonger as you put it....
you guys hate Obama so much you can't even think clearly anymore..Australia has always been an ally and we are bound to defend them by treaty...also they were there for us in Iraq
Look at this jerkoff.
Read the reasons why the Nobel Committee gave him the price. It doesn't matter what piece of crap Obama said, it is the criteria set by the Committee and the standards that they proclaim.
Obama is a warmonger. He continued the wars that began under Bush, attacked Lybia sending that nation into prolonged turmoil and now is taking a menacing position against China. He is every bit a warmonger, as every bit you are a mental midget.
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Look at this jerkoff.
Read the reasons why the Nobel Committee gave him the price. It doesn't matter what piece of crap Obama said, it is the criteria set by the Committee and the standards that they proclaim.
Obama is a warmonger. He continued the wars that began under Bush, attacked Lybia sending that nation into prolonged turmoil and now is taking a menacing position against China. He is every bit a warmonger, as every bit you are a mental midget.
by your reasoning then EVERY SINGLE U.S. PRESIDENT IS A WARMONGER...the Nobel Committee gave the award to Obama...he accepted it..what was he to do???...sorry you have sour grapes because they did something positive for Obama but again thats sour grapes on you..move on dude!
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by your reasoning then EVERY SINGLE U.S. PRESIDENT IS A WARMONGER...the Nobel Committee gave the award to Obama...he accepted it..what was he to do???...sorry you have sour grapes because they did something positive for Obama but again thats sour grapes on you..move on dude!
he should have turned it down and said what everyone but mind numbed dildos like yourself knew - it was a mockery for his name to even be considered in the first place!!!
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he should have turned it down and said what everyone but mind numbed dildos like yourself knew - it was a mockery for his name to even be considered in the first place!!!
the Nobel Committee consists of some of the smartest people in the world...if they feel he should get the award then so be it....He went to the middle east and approached the /Arabs with open arms and tried to make some peace with them...who else has done that?..Did Russia?...did China?....no...Obama did....so just because stone cold losers like you and /Dario feel he shouldn't have taken it ..well..who cares what you guys think?..He's in the White House and you guys are in your respective basements.....
Had he turned it down you would have said he was wrong for snubbing the Nobel Committee and making the U.S. look bad
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the Nobel Committee consists of some of the smartest people in the world...if they feel he should get the award then so be it....He went to the middle east and approached the /Arabs with open arms and tried to make some peace with them...who else has done that?..Did Russia?...did China?....no...Obama did....so just because stone cold losers like you and /Dario feel he shouldn't have taken it ..well..who cares what you guys think?..He's in the White House and you guys are in your respective basements.....
Had he turned it down you would have said he was wrong for snubbing the Nobel Committee and making the U.S. look bad
Lmfao. You would have made the perfect slave back in the day.
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Lmfao. You would have made the perfect slave back in the day.
I am so happy that Getbig is a place for you to get your frustrations out concerning your hatred of blacks ...i'm sorry your life as a stone cold loser is having that affect on you...but I'm glad that getbig provides an outlet for you to bring the dumbness about blacks so you don't wind up killing yourself
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Bro - not even fellow libs defend obama getting this hoax of an award.
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the Nobel Committee consists of some of the smartest people in the world...if they feel he should get the award then so be it....He went to the middle east and approached the /Arabs with open arms and tried to make some peace with them...who else has done that?..Did Russia?...did China?....no...Obama did....so just because stone cold losers like you and /Dario feel he shouldn't have taken it ..well..who cares what you guys think?..He's in the White House and you guys are in your respective basements.....
Had he turned it down you would have said he was wrong for snubbing the Nobel Committee and making the U.S. look bad
The peace prize committee is usually comprised of political appointees not scholars and the ME is one of China's largest trading partners. ::)
You = still dumb as hell.
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The peace prize committee is usually comprised of political appointees not scholars and the ME is one of China's largest trading partners. ::)
You = still dumb as hell.
How about contributing to the discussion in a positive way?..instead of bringing the usual dumbness?
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The peace prize committee is usually comprised of political appointees not scholars and the ME is one of China's largest trading partners. ::)
You = still dumb as hell.
Speaking of that, Mohammed El Baradei and the IAEA are another group of assholes that should be handing their Peace Prize back. After all, they won it for their "work" and their vehement defense that Iran "wasn't acquiring nuclear weapons" and we now see how that turned out.
What a joke of a prize.
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Speaking of that, Mohammed El Baradei and the IAEA are another group of assholes that should be handing their Peace Prize back. After all, they won it for their "work" and their vehement defense that Iran "wasn't acquiring nuclear weapons" and we now see how that turned out.
What a joke of a prize.
Lets be honest here...the only reason you are devaluing the prize is so that you can devalue Obama by osmosis...you and I both know that the Nobel Prize is very prestigious..cut the crap
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How about contributing to the discussion in a positive way?..instead of bringing the usual dumbness?
It takes enough time pointing out and correcting your blatant lies. How's digging up that quote by BF that you claim he made working out? You keep disappearing when called out on it.
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Lets be honest here...the only reason you are devaluing the prize is so that you can devalue Obama by osmosis...you and I both know that the Nobel Prize is very prestigious..cut the crap
I'd agree it was prestigious at one point. Now? C'mon. It's political and given to people for what they may do in the future. Get real...you're only defending it because you're an Obamabot.
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It takes enough time pointing out and correcting your blatant lies. How's digging up that quote by BF that you claim he made working out? You keep disappearing when called out on it.
I don't disappear at all...my presence here proves that...I simply chose to move on from that because if I did in fact find the quote you and he would not apologize anyway...you would just say some other dumb things to cover up...like 3333 does when he is wrong...so again why bother...move on
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Lets be honest here...the only reason you are devaluing the prize is so that you can devalue Obama by osmosis...you and I both know that the Nobel Prize is very prestigious..cut the crap
There's nothing prestigious about the Nobel Peace Prize. It's a politically motivated gift. The prizes in the sciences, economics and literature, on the other hand, are quite prestigious.
It takes enough time pointing out and correcting your blatant lies. How's digging up that quote by BF that you claim he made working out? You keep disappearing when called out on it.
He's a bitch.
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I'd agree it was prestigious at one point. Now? C'mon. It's political and given to people for what they may do in the future. Get real...you're only defending it because you're an Obamabot.
well..no...I defend it because he is the president of the U.S. and I respect that he has gotten this award which in a sense was given to all of us since he represents us....but keep bringing the dumbness anyway....you assume that I support Obama because we are both black which is ignorant on your part and displays your own racism
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There's nothing prestigious about the Nobel Peace Prize. It's a politically motivated gift. The prizes in the sciences, economics and literature, on the other hand, are quite prestigious.
He's a bitch.
you're bringing the retardness really heavy tonight
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you're bringing the retardness really heavy tonight
Fuck off, douche. That prize lost any legitimacy when they gave it to Yasser Arafat of all people. Obama winning it was almost as pathetic, though.
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well..no...I defend it because he is the president of the U.S. and I respect that he has gotten this award which in a sense was given to all of us since he represents us....but keep bringing the dumbness anyway....you assume that I support Obama because we are both black which is ignorant on your part and displays your own racism
Oh brother, I never even mention race - his, yours, or anybody elses.
Playing the race card = pathetic.
Guideline #1 - as usual with you.
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Fuck off, douche. That prize lost any legitimacy when they gave it to Yasser Arafat of all people. Obama winning it was almost as pathetic, though.
And do you remember some of the accomplishments of the nominees who lost to Obama? Holy hell, they put him to shit.
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And do you remember some of the accomplishments of the nominees who lost to Obama? Holy hell, they put him to shit.
But he's the anointed one! And it's "prestigious"! ::)
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Krugman, al gore, arafat - notice a trend?