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I find it amusing that MSNBC has the decency to treat Ron Paul with respect and lets him make all the points he can in the time alloted. Notice whenever Ron Paul is on FOX NEWS they try their hardest to belittle him and make him into a cook.
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Another takeaway from this segment from today- New York Times/CBS Poll of TEA PARTIERS state 52 Percent say the Income Tax they pay is fair.
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ron paul will be 77 years old in 2012 and would be 81 by the end of his first term. mccain was ataked for being to old at 71
-El Chapo
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ron paul will be 77 years old in 2012 and would be 81 by the end of his first term. mccain was ataked for being to old at 71
-El Chapo
yet his ideals are more progressive
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That's because Fux Noise is a Neoconservative propoganda network.
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Yeah anything that bashes the Republicans will get air time on MSNBC......not that anybody notices.
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Yeah anything that bashes the Republicans will get air time on MSNBC......not that anybody notices.
Bingo.
And thus the entire reason for the existence of MSNBC.
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Bingo.
And thus the entire reason for the existence of MSNBC.
Honestly, MSNBC is unwatchable.
Where I work out they only get MSNBC and I was trying to watch Maddow while doing some cardio. That has to be the absolute worst programming on tv, bar none.
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Honestly, MSNBC is unwatchable.
Where I work out they only get MSNBC and I was trying to watch Maddow while doing some cardio. That has to be the absolute worst programming on tv, bar none.
or the most honest. depends on your point of view..as always.
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or the most honest. depends on your point of view..as always.
Yeah, snorting, smirking, cackling, eye rolls, no debate, and having other wimpish "men" like Ezra Klein, Sam Stein, and the other "men" from the left in what seems like a 24/7 pity party amongst a bunch of panzies is really compelling?
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Yeah, snorting, smirking, cackling, eye rolls, no debate, ....
you've just described Sean Hannity and Mark Levin!
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Gimme a break, Hannity has opposing view points, christ the ex alcoholic nutbag Beckle is always on. Show me the Conservative version of Beckle on MSNBC. MSNBC is unwatchable because they don't have anybody who dissents with their view point...or the ones of their two supposedly biggest on air talents. Matthews used to..he sucks now.
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Gimme a break, Hannity has opposing view points, christ the ex alcoholic nutbag Beckle is always on. Show me the Conservative version of Beckle on MSNBC. MSNBC is unwatchable because they don't have anybody who dissents with their view point...or the ones of their two supposedly biggest on air talents. Matthews used to..he sucks now.
There's that liberal blond college professor, whose name escapes me at this time. Along with Juan Williams, and several other Democratic strategists.
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Yeah, snorting, smirking, cackling, eye rolls, no debate, and having other wimpish "men" like Ezra Klein, Sam Stein, and the other "men" from the left in what seems like a 24/7 pity party amongst a bunch of panzies is really compelling?
are you joking man
you're trying to belittle guys like Klein because you think they are wimpish
that kid would run circles around your dumb ass in a debate
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or the most honest. depends on your point of view..as always.
Honest from the most biased/Leftist position.
But yeah, I guess with MSNBC it's all about your "perspective". ::)
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are you joking man
you're trying to belittle guys like Klein because you think they are wimpish
that kid would run circles around your dumb ass in a debate
I saw him last night and no he would not, he was giving half truths to the hilt.
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I saw him last night and no he would not, he was giving half truths to the hilt.
such as
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The overall level of taxation that people are complaining about is not only the federal income tax, it is the entire tax burden suffered by people.
The left wing freak show was trying to distort this yesterday and it did not, does not work.
Although some dont pay it in federal income tax, people as a whole are getting screwed royally from ALL LEVELS of govt and that is what the tea party people are talking about. Whether its the unfunded mandates that cause state taxes to explode, fines, fees, etc, the federal income tax alone is but only a small portion of the overall burden of this mess. Just complaince alone with the income tax is ahuge cost to society.
Taxes do not encompass only the federal income tax, but the hidden taxes, mandates, fiats, etc. I would have owned that little bitch royally last night.
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The overall level of taxation that people are complaining about is not only the federal income tax, it is the entire tax burden suffered by people.
The left wing freak show was trying to distort this yesterday and it did not, does not work.
Although some dont pay it in federal income tax, people as a whole are getting screwed royally from ALL LEVELS of govt and that is what the tea party people are talking about. Whether its the unfunded mandates that cause state taxes to explode, fines, fees, etc, the federal income tax alone is but only a small portion of the overall burden of this mess. Just complaince alone with the income tax is ahuge cost to society.
Taxes do not encompass only the federal income tax, but the hidden taxes, mandates, fiats, etc. I would have owned that little bitch royally last night.
just one specific half truth would be nice
btw I've been in a good mood the last couple of days since I found out I was getting a bit more than 10k back from Fed and State combined
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msnbc has that crosseyed guy on, talking republican viewpoints every day. Ron Christie, I think? Some GOP strategist.
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just one specific half truth would be nice
btw I've been in a good mood the last couple of days since I found out I was getting a bit more than 10k back from Fed and State combined
In my country alone, Westchester, we have a massive unfunded liability in what we have to pay for Medicade. The Federal Govt mandates what we must cover but does not reimburse the entire amount. As a result, we have a massive unfunded liability that results in the highest property taxes in the nation. That is one example.
This occurs in many other areas as well to where the federal income tax alone is but one blip on the radar of the overal cost of govt screwing the avwerage guy.
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In my country alone, Westchester, we have a massive unfunded liability in what we have to pay for Medicade. The Federal Govt mandates what we must cover but does not reimburse the entire amount. As a result, we have a massive unfunded liability that results in the highest property taxes in the nation. That is one example.
This occurs in many other areas as well to where the federal income tax alone is but one blip on the radar of the overal cost of govt screwing the avwerage guy.
what did Klein say EXACTLY that was a half truth
don't you have a 4 second out of context clip or something
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msnbc has that crosseyed guy on, talking republican viewpoints every day. Ron Christie, I think? Some GOP strategist.
::) ::) Why dont they just put Snow or Collins on there.
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what did Klein say EXACTLY that was a half truth
don't you have a 4 second out of context clip or something
He was claiming that on averqage people are paying less federal taxes than in years past. While that may be techincially true as per just the federal income tax, that does not tell the complete truth that people overall are getting screwed on the state level as a result of federal unfunded mandates that push a lot of these taxes on to the state side.
Additionally, the tea party people are pissed off with the level of borrowoing to pay for utter crap that will result in a FUTURE tax increase or worse.
He is the epitome of a dishonest lib.
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He was claiming that on averqage people are paying less federal taxes than in years past. While that may be techincially true as per just the federal income tax, that does not tell the complete truth that people overall are getting screwed on the state level as a result of federal unfunded mandates that push a lot of these taxes on to the state side.
Additionally, the tea party people are pissed off with the level of borrowoing to pay for utter crap that will result in a FUTURE tax increase or worse.
He is the epitome of a dishonest lib.
so he said that people are paying less in federal income tax and you agree that's true
what do unfunded mandates have to do with his statement and why don't you tell us which mandates you're talking about and how they rusult in higher taxes at the state level.
be specific otherwise I'm inclined to believe you're just talking out of your ass again
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so he said that people are paying less in federal income tax and you agree that's true
what do unfunded mandates have to do with his statement and why don't you tell us which mandates you're talking about and how they rusult in higher taxes at the state level.
be specific otherwise I'm inclined to believe you're just talking out of your ass again
You should know this perfectly well as per your screen name, but what most libs do is create a STRAW MAN man argument that does not tell the whole truth about a situation.
His bs and lies have everything to do with my statement since people are now paying more in local property, sales, and income taxes to cover the FEDERAL unfunded mandates that are not picked up in the Federal income tax.
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Straw Man for the win.....Again.
333366, you are going to have to one day use evidence and fact or else you will lose every single time.
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Straw Man for the win.....Again.
333366, you are going to have to one day use evidence and fact or else you will lose every single time.
GMAFB. Coming from one delusional lib to another.
Between you and straw your knowledge of the tax code and tax issues is less than John Edwards knows about fidelity.
Just for shits and giggles for you two homos, here is an example from my county alone.
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You should know this perfectly well as per your screen name, but what most libs do is create a STRAW MAN man argument that does not tell the whole truth about a situation.
His bs and lies have everything to do with my statement since people are now paying more in local property, sales, and income taxes to cover the FEDERAL unfunded mandates that are not picked up in the Federal income tax.
you've got it half right
I picked my screen name after watching most Republican create Straw Man arguments.
Seriouly man, that's a Republican Institution
Watch the rhetoric on the banking legislation (something that I have mixed feeling about).
The Repubs are agaisnt it but the argument they are going to give is that its' going to create more banks that are too big to fail
This is a bogus argument but they know it's a talking point that will resonate with their uninformed constituents
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you've got it half right
I picked my screen name after watching most Republican create Straw Man arguments.
Seriouly man, that's a Republican Institution
Watch the rhetoric on the banking legislation (something that I have mixed feeling about).
The Repubs are agaisnt it but the argument they are going to give is that its' going to create more banks that are too big to fail
This is a bogus argument but they know it's a talking point that will resonate with their uninformed constituents
Yes the left doesnt do that.Health insurance companies,wall street,talk radio,fox news,tea parties,the wealthy,.Nope the left never makes up straw men and they never ever do things like call those who oppose them racists,homophobes,right wing kooks,McVeigh wannabees,Nazis, etc. No sir,the left always debates strictly on the merrits.
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Yes the left doesnt do that.Health insurance companies,wall street,talk radio,fox news,tea parties,the wealthy,.Nope the left never makes up straw men and they never ever do things like call those who oppose them racists,homophobes,right wing kooks,McVeigh wannabees,Nazis, etc. No sir,the left always debates strictly on the merrits.
I never said the left didn't do it
I said it's a freaking INSTITUTION on the right
I truly wish the right would have honest debates on the substance instead of constantly doing the straw man thing
I'd probably be more inclined to agree with Reblicans on a few issues if they just had an honest debate
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I saw Ron Paul interviewed twice on Fox News this week and he was treated with respect, allowed to talk, etc.
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GMAFB. Coming from one delusional lib to another.
Between you and straw your knowledge of the tax code and tax issues is less than John Edwards knows about fidelity.
Just for shits and giggles for you two homos, here is an example from my county alone.
and just how do you know they are homos? first hand experience??!!
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you've got it half right
I picked my screen name after watching most Republican create Straw Man arguments.
Seriouly man, that's a Republican Institution
Watch the rhetoric on the banking legislation (something that I have mixed feeling about).
The Repubs are agaisnt it but the argument they are going to give is that its' going to create more banks that are too big to fail
This is a bogus argument but they know it's a talking point that will resonate with their uninformed constituents
Maybe Obama is reading GB too - from his radio address today:
"Just the other day, in fact, the Leader of the Senate Republicans and the Chair of the Republican Senate campaign committee met with two dozen top Wall Street executives to talk about how to block progress on this issue.
Lo and behold, when he returned to Washington, the Senate Republican Leader came out against the common-sense reforms we’ve proposed. In doing so, he made the cynical and deceptive assertion that reform would somehow enable future bailouts – when he knows that it would do just the opposite."
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/weekly-address-president-obama-says-we-must-move-forward-wall-street-reform
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ron paul will be 77 years old in 2012 and would be 81 by the end of his first term. mccain was ataked for being to old at 71
-El Chapo
Ron Paul walks and talks like he's 60. McCain often looked and acted like he just escaped from the last days section of the retirement home. You kinda have to judge. I mean many people do stay sharp into old age while others do not. What comes out of Pauls mouth is pretty much the same message he's had his entire career. If his age is a worry, it just means his VP choice should be a little more important. If he has a good VP pick, it shouldn't be much of an issue.
I'll take an old Ron Paul over what we've had in the last 4 presidents.
Plus people freak out at some of the things Ron Paul has said as though he'd be able to walk into office on day one and abolish half of government. LOL, we all know that wouldn't be possible if you know how things work. It just wouldn't happen, but what you could count on during his presidency is that it wouldn't get worse, government wouldn't get bigger. He would be one hell of a "fuck no" to the idiots in Congress. His entire career says that. So don't worry about his more radical statements, he couldn't make them happen anyway.
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I saw Ron Paul interviewed twice on Fox News this week and he was treated with respect, allowed to talk, etc.
they've been better to him than they were before the election. I did post a attack by Fox on Ron Paul in the last couple months but they don't do it as much as they did. Before he was pretty much only attacked on Fox.