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Title: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on April 29, 2010, 10:13:07 PM
what is your opinion of physical discipline?

i dont have kids yet but can see myself giving a good brain duster when they do something really stupid, although im not fond of the epic beatdowns some of the parents apply when ive caught their kids stealing candy and drink in my stores.  thoughts on this?  i really cant stand the idea that kids dont need a wake up call every once in a while.  i can say with complete honesty that i prolly deserved a few ass whoopings when i was a kid.. would have kept me out of a doing a lot of dumb shit.
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: newmom on April 30, 2010, 03:07:53 AM
what is your opinion of physical discipline?

i dont have kids yet but can see myself giving a good brain duster when they do something really stupid, although im not fond of the epic beatdowns some of the parents apply when ive caught their kids stealing candy and drink in my stores.  thoughts on this?  i really cant stand the idea that kids dont need a wake up call every once in a while.  i can say with complete honesty that i prolly deserved a few ass whoopings when i was a kid.. would have kept me out of a doing a lot of dumb shit.

now this is my opinion,
No noone should beat down their kid. A smack on the ass, HELL YES. If I caught my little one stealing (she knows you have to pay for everything) I'd grab her arm very hard. Explain why it is wrong and we got home, a spanking and NO TOYS or anything for a few days. Yes kids need a wake up call. IMO parents are to soft on their kids. I help in my daughters pre-k class room once a month. Some of the kids are fucking awful. 2 had to be taken out of the school because nothing worked (no they didn't have ADD or any other disorder) One of those kids used to bite teachers and hit other kids. The parent never believed the teachers saying she never acts like that at home. One day she caught me in the parking lot and asked me. I said Ill be honest with you. She does bite and hit. Teachers tried to explain to her why it was not okay and to use words (the kid was 5).
My father would beat my ass if I acted up, I was afraid of him if I did something stupid, hence I learned quickly. Before I did alot of dumb things, I thought what are gonna be my consequences when I get home, pretty much stopped me from doing the stupid shit.

Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: Stark on April 30, 2010, 03:29:32 AM
I am a classic excample of how early child life can effect your adult life, my original parents were extremly bad parents, bad to the point that I had to be taken of them since they left me alone in the apartment for 2 weeks and I was only 3 years old, now this may sound cruel but a child does not die if it has only crackers and water to drink for 2 weeks time.
But the damage is done very early, I will never trust anybody apart from people I know very long and the once I have tested numberous times, the trust issue is heavy and always on my mind and is something that I will have until I die and I talked with specialists about this and their believe is that trust is build at a very early stage, when you are baby and you cry and somebody comes and looks after you, you start learning trust as in I have something and somebody comes to help me or somebody comes to give me attention.
Obviously there was nobody for me hence the trust issue.

So I would be extremly careful how to discipline my children since it could have a dramatic effect in later years.

There is a huge difference between corporal punishment and a small smack on the back of the head or a clip around the ears.
Have a look what wolf packs are doing, they have a very complex set of rules, do's and dont's - and also a very complex leader structure.
If you missbehave you can be sure that the pack and especially the leading alpha female will make sure you understand not to do it again.

To the untrained eye it looks like they are just dishing out pain, but I have seen this many times in the zoo I worked they never just go out to kick another lesser pack members ass, its all about rules, you break them you get bitten, not hard but hard enough so you understand - its like setting a line in the sand, if you cross this you can expect concequenses.

I think there is still value in teaching kids physical boundries, as in if you do this you can get hurt - I am completly agains the hippie rules that you cannot touch your kids in any way or form, I think parents should be able to use physical force as the last resourt.

One thing I HATE with a passion is these hippie liberal asshole parents that say: I am my childs best friend... BULLSHIT!! you are not his/her best friend you are taking on the role as a teacher, your child HAS to rescpect you as a higher member of the family, at NO time should the child feel it is running the family.

But the line is very very thin and any parent is walking on thin ice, since I am becoming a father soon this part how to discipline your child has been heavy on my mind.

most people don't understand the psycology of a child, they don't think of me and other people and I have to fit in, childrens world revolves around them they always think they are the middle point of this world, they learn much later that this is not the case.
So it is near impossible to explain to a child that it isn't their fault that mother and father are breaking up - they always feel they have some sort of guilt in that part.
Children take anything said by adults 100% - so for excample if you tell a child its ugly or stupid it will believe it and take these believes with them way into their adult life.


Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: ShipSekki on April 30, 2010, 03:32:54 AM
 I don't think it does any good to beat kids. It's a lazy, crude and uncivilized way to discipline them.

 It's better to just use punishments and rewards. Beating them really fucks up their head and puts a lot of unhealthy fear into them.

 Beating kids is for trashy parents and assholes.
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: devilsmile on April 30, 2010, 03:38:30 AM
I don't agree hiting... but pulling sideburns or whiping on the ass don't hurt at all... there has to be consequenses, a kid has to know that parents are the ultimate authority, and that's it.

*waiting super liberal scum fucks to exaggarate my claims and totally miss the point  ::)*
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: newmom on April 30, 2010, 04:57:10 AM
Xerxes, words cannot discribe how sorry I am they did that to you. I just cant understand why on gods green earth a parent could just leave a child alone. Your story just breaks my heart on so many levels :'(

Beating kids nope not a great idea. Smack on the ass is okay in my book.
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: devilsmile on April 30, 2010, 05:17:23 AM
Xerxes, words cannot discribe how sorry I am they did that to you. I just cant understand why on gods green earth a parent could just leave a child alone. Your story just breaks my heart on so many levels :'(

Beating kids nope not a great idea. Smack on the ass is okay in my book.


wait WOOot, what did I miss  :o

i feel sory for the man allready  :-\
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: newmom on April 30, 2010, 05:18:25 AM
wait WOOot, what did I miss  :o

i feel sory for the man allready  :-\

ooops meant Stark...see what happens when you do cardio in the early am without food..ugh
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: devilsmile on April 30, 2010, 05:24:43 AM
ooops meant Stark...see what happens when you do cardio in the early am without food..ugh

had some wet dreams of the man... haha, I have to tell xerxes about this  :P
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: Stark on April 30, 2010, 05:27:01 AM
Xerxes, words cannot discribe how sorry I am they did that to you. I just cant understand why on gods green earth a parent could just leave a child alone. Your story just breaks my heart on so many levels :'(

Beating kids nope not a great idea. Smack on the ass is okay in my book.


did you mean me?

If so I have to be honest and I dont want to give my parents too much credit, yes I am fully aware that they did very very wrong but they had to battle huge demons themself and I am not going into detail what these were.

What was interesting was that when I was 25 or so I made an attempt to track down my mother, I mainly used the internet to get a set of phone numbers and just spend all day to call them and finally I get to part of my family who could remember me, they gave me other phone numbers and things went on from there.

When I finally had the number of my mother I was shaking, I tend to have a great interest in how I react to certain things and try to observe myself, so I called her and she picked up the phone.

The weird thing was, it was like talking to an old friend which you haven't heard for ages, the voice was very familar and despite the fact that she went straight away into the defensive mode without me accusing here in any way it was interesting to chat with her.
I gave her my phone number and my details but she never called back.

I later found out that (these are the things that you don't know unless you have kids) an unborn baby accociates the voice it can here when it is still in the belly that is usually the first thing can hear.
My father died while he gave me up for adoption I still have letters from him and it broke his heart that I wasn't calling him daddy anymore at that stage, was probably the hardest thing he had to do in his life.
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: Ursus on April 30, 2010, 05:29:52 AM
Smacking is not bad for the kids.

I got smacked as a kid with hands/belts/slippers/sticks etc as it was the only thing that worked.

I was only hit around the back of legs or the butt. There is a total difference between getting smacked as a punishment and an adult physically beating up a child.

Also for very young kids who do dangerous things a short sharp slap will get the message through faster than trying to explain to a 2 year olf why they should not play with knives/fire/dogshit etc

Once I was smacked and punished it was all forgotten about in my house.
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: Stark on April 30, 2010, 05:34:18 AM
but to get back at the topic (which I naturaly find very intersting) what ever you do with your child will have a huge impact in the later life of that child, I can accept that I will never be a person that trust others or trust anything and that is not something you can learn - and I will always be happiest when I am alone or with somebody I truly love.
Speaking of love, I also have my doubts If I really am capable of love - I adore my wife and I tend to set myself reminders where I daydream and rollplay in my head what I would feel if something would happen to her, but at times I am scared that I am actually not capable of fully 100% love.
Whenever we are talking about my past with my wife she starts crying which was puzzling to me at first because for me this is something that has not happend to me since I cannot remember anything apart from very vague flashes.

I will have to be very careful with my child which is the part that scares me the most I don;t want to pass on old problems, its too later for me and I can life with that.
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: splank on April 30, 2010, 06:11:33 AM
I don't think it does any good to beat kids. It's a lazy, crude and uncivilized way to discipline them.

 It's better to just use punishments and rewards. Beating them really fucks up their head and puts a lot of unhealthy fear into them.

 Beating kids is for trashy parents and assholes.

 Do you have kids? There is nothing wrong at all with a smack on the ass..it is not a beating. Timeout and taking shit away doesn't work with everyone; however, the threat of a paddle to the ass straightens them up instantly.

 As a parent, there is a line you dare not cross when physically disciplining your child and you know what it is. Our parents, grandparent and further back got their asses whipped and they turned out fine. It is good for kids to have a little fear of their parent's punishing them WHEN THEY STEP OUT OF LINE and do not listen after being told once. My boys love me to death, but they know when its time to straighten up as well.
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: drkaje on April 30, 2010, 06:17:51 AM
It's lazy. Someone who isn't smart enough to explain things to kids (little people) without violence is probably too stupid to reproduce. A little swat is fine when they're little but beating doesn't make people smarter.
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: Kwon on April 30, 2010, 06:35:22 AM
now this is my opinion,
No noone should beat down their kid. A smack on the ass, HELL YES. If I caught my little one stealing (she knows you have to pay for everything) I'd grab her arm very hard.

You should do a Randleplex on her when she misbehaves, she'll never forget that.
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 30, 2010, 06:51:09 AM
I got my ass beat quite frequently as a kid for no reason it effects your whole life I had a huge strong father so I started weight training to defend myself end of story.
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: leadhead on April 30, 2010, 06:55:24 AM
I spank my daughter occasionally but nothing more than a pop on her rear end. When time out doesn't work, this does. She's spoiled alot by both sets of her grandparents and they let her get away with alot- me and my wife don't, so we keep her in check. I refuse to raise my young daughter to be a spoiled, ill-mannered, disrespectful child like I see often in society. I grew up being taught respecting my parents and elders and my children will too.

I wasn't a bad kid but I got spankings growing up and I needed them. I deserved all of them and after I received the spankings I knew not to do the negative action again.
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: ManBearPig... on April 30, 2010, 07:02:47 AM
roundhouse to the face.
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: lvtolft on April 30, 2010, 08:07:54 AM
roundhouse to the face.
lol! 
I really believe most of the physical interventions (spanking, hitting, etc) tends to be because we are impatient and don't want to take the time to explain to them what is they are doing is wrong, etc.  I myself have noticed this with my children.  Being patient with them (most of the time  ;D) works better than physical discipline.
I also think it depends on the age.  We tend to think of kids as little adults, yet their minds work in a completely different manner than ours.  Sometimes a stern voice of NO, followed by distractions works best.
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: Playboy on April 30, 2010, 08:13:20 AM
Smacking is not bad for the kids.

I got smacked as a kid with hands/belts/slippers/sticks etc as it was the only thing that worked.

I was only hit around the back of legs or the butt. There is a total difference between getting smacked as a punishment and an adult physically beating up a child.

Also for very young kids who do dangerous things a short sharp slap will get the message through faster than trying to explain to a 2 year olf why they should not play with knives/fire/dogshit etc

Once I was smacked and punished it was all forgotten about in my house.
Exactly. I got smacked when I missbehaved as a kid too and I knew that if I did it again I would get smacked again. Now these fucking kids tell their parents to fuck off and they threaten to call the cops / child services if you threaten to disapline them with a smack.
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on April 30, 2010, 08:25:53 AM
:D
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: 240 is Back on April 30, 2010, 08:29:55 AM
a smack on the ass - you gotta do it from time to time.  once you establish yourself as the boss and the kid knows there is stability, boundaries, etc... you'll be able to get by with positive reinforcement 99% of the time.  They'll do the right thing becase they want the praise.

still, there are times when every kid will be in brat mode, where a smack on the butt will embarass and belittle them more than anything else - "Do you need a spanking in front of everyone here?" will usually pull them out of wild mode in a public place.
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: tbombz on April 30, 2010, 08:30:16 AM
dont talk to parents about parenting, especially not mothers! boy are they deluded, confused, and delusional!!
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: G.O.A.T. on April 30, 2010, 09:15:37 AM
I dont beleive in beating but when mine were small, I did whip thier butts a few times. After about 8 or so I never had to do it again so I am a firm beleiver in setting the pace at a early age so they respect you and you have an easier time later. All I have to do now is raise my voice and it works. Key is, explain what your doing it for and let them know what your about to do, and give about 2 hard pops to the butt. About 30 minutes later, they will be hugging your neck again.
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: Luv2Hurt on April 30, 2010, 12:17:17 PM
lol! 
I really believe most of the physical interventions (spanking, hitting, etc) tends to be because we are impatient and don't want to take the time to explain to them what is they are doing is wrong, etc.  I myself have noticed this with my children.  Being patient with them (most of the time  ;D) works better than physical discipline.
I also think it depends on the age.  We tend to think of kids as little adults, yet their minds work in a completely different manner than ours.  Sometimes a stern voice of NO, followed by distractions works best.


"Distractions" LOL hilarious i see these parents sitting there arguing back and forth with a 3 YO and think WTF you have lost all authority now trying to reason shit out with a little spoiled 3 year old LOL.  Screw that let them know real early YOU make the decisions otherwise your life will be hell.  Unless you like a 3 YO running the house (which I see all the time) and you being thier bitch.


My Mom always told me "this is not a democracy and if I dont like it, dont let the door hit me on the ass on the way out"  truthfully kids need to know you are a strong leader to feel secure.  Let them do what they want, manipulate you, throw fits, demand stuff and its you thats the fool.  A decent beat down when necessary will not scar them for life LOL.
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: funk51 on April 30, 2010, 12:37:55 PM
what is your opinion of physical discipline?

i dont have kids yet but can see myself giving a good brain duster when they do something really stupid, although im not fond of the epic beatdowns some of the parents apply when ive caught their kids stealing candy and drink in my stores.  thoughts on this?  i really cant stand the idea that kids dont need a wake up call every once in a while.  i can say with complete honesty that i prolly deserved a few ass whoopings when i was a kid.. would have kept me out of a doing a lot of dumb shit.
spare the rod and spoil the child, hopes this helps apooo {brutal simpson quickie mart ref}
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: newmom on April 30, 2010, 04:24:38 PM
I love parents that make 5 meals until the little ones are satisfied with whats in front of them. Whatever she gets she gets. The other night made stuffed shells, she goes I wanted spaghetti, I gave the "LOOK" she looks at me, and says "I know mom, this isn't a restaraunt and I get what I get and don't get upset"..
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: Cardfan on April 30, 2010, 04:29:16 PM
 shut up. If you're typing on getbig then you are NEGLECTING your offspring. Shut up and PARENT. Fucking losers.
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on April 30, 2010, 04:35:31 PM
I don't agree hiting... but pulling sideburns or whiping on the ass don't hurt at all... there has to be consequenses, a kid has to know that parents are the ultimate authority, and that's it.

*waiting super liberal scum fucks to exaggarate my claims and totally miss the point  ::)*

Uhhh... Something is seriously wrong if your child has sideburns.  :o
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: dov on April 30, 2010, 04:37:55 PM
shut up. If you're typing on getbig then you are NEGLECTING your offspring. Shut up and PARENT. Fucking losers.

Hmm, kinda what I was thinkin too...
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 30, 2010, 04:41:18 PM
I love parents that make 5 meals until the little ones are satisfied with whats in front of them. Whatever she gets she gets. The other night made stuffed shells, she goes I wanted spaghetti, I gave the "LOOK" she looks at me, and says "I know mom, this isn't a restaraunt and I get what I get and don't get upset"..
Sounds like alot of work new whats the pay rate on this?
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: newmom on April 30, 2010, 04:42:54 PM
Sounds like alot of work new whats the pay rate on this?

Zilch, but its more of a reward I guess. Cant put a price tag on being a mom.
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: benchmstr on April 30, 2010, 04:44:50 PM
"nothing say's love like a open hand slap"

i went to college with a guy from romainia that used to always say that ;D

bench
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: Luv2Hurt on April 30, 2010, 05:12:15 PM
shut up. If you're typing on getbig then you are NEGLECTING your offspring. Shut up and PARENT. Fucking losers.


What an idiot.  So if you dont give you spawn your attention 24/7 you are neglecting them?  Get a life twat.
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: newmom on April 30, 2010, 05:20:40 PM
What an idiot.  So if you dont give you spawn your attention 24/7 you are neglecting them?  Get a life twat.

LMAO
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: Ron on May 01, 2010, 08:32:46 AM

Kids are not stupid - they learn very quickly what is right and wrong. You should never hit a kid, period.  Of course, there are going to be times when things dont go your way, or they do something wrong. But you learn other way of discipline.   No television, no computer, no desserts, time out corners, stay in your room, no going to you favorite places, etc.   Hitting is just plain wrong.

Your kids are smarter than you think.  You need to spend time being with them, teaching them, reading with them, instead of just getting angry and lashing out.  If you discuss things with kids, they do undertand. 

I have a 6 1/2 year old daughter and a 4 year old son.  It does work.
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: Purple Aki on May 01, 2010, 08:37:38 AM
I don't have any children of my own, but I do like to spank the neighbour's kids occasionally. (no paedo)
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: devilsmile on May 01, 2010, 08:41:43 AM
Uhhh... Something is seriously wrong if your child has sideburns.  :o

yeah I guess having hair and a proper hormonal activity is not normal for you, tits   ;D
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on May 01, 2010, 08:45:38 AM
never ever beat slap or be physical with your kid

those who did were reenacting abuse they suffered themselves because they cannot nor do they know how to deal with it
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: big14 on May 01, 2010, 08:57:53 AM
Let me put it this way.
Imagine you are living with Ronnie Coleman.
Every time you make a mistake,
he sit on you and hammerfist you in the face
or
he tells you what you did wrong, you
have to say you are sorry and fix it.

Which do you preffer?
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: Tapeworm on May 01, 2010, 09:38:18 AM
I don't have any children of my own, but I do like to spank the neighbour's kids occasionally. (no paedo)

Will be strafing the next kid convo I overhear with this!
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: Purple Aki on May 01, 2010, 10:14:49 AM
Will be strafing the next kid convo I overhear with this!

It won't end well. Parents are humourless these days.

I recently made a witty remark in front of my friend's wife about their son having ginger hair - this has resulted in my mate not being allowed out to play anymore.
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on May 01, 2010, 11:32:25 AM
I only waterboard them. Leaves no marks. Only hit the legs and whatnot, phhhfff, waterboarding is the way to go.
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: James Blunt on May 01, 2010, 11:40:37 AM


Does anybody else want to kick this kid in the face ? And the mother for letting the shithead get that way?
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: Oldschool Flip on May 01, 2010, 11:46:14 AM
Haven't had to lay a hand on my 5 year old at all since birth. She'll act up every once in awhile, but all it takes from me is to talk sterner and louder. Totally different from the way I was raised, but it seems more effective since I have better communication with her and she isn't afraid to tell me if she did something wrong.
Many here will disagree, but I believe hitting just teaches your kid how to hit others to try to prove a point or get their way.
Title: Re: those of you with kids..
Post by: tbombz on May 01, 2010, 11:49:22 AM
Zilch, but its more of a reward I guess. Cant put a price tag on being a mom.
cant put a price tag on having total control over another person, one who you can shape and mold into whatever you like... like a slave.. well, i guess slaves did used o have price tags... but, none of the slaves resembled their masters in appearance nor intellect lol
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: Luv2Hurt on May 01, 2010, 02:31:01 PM


Does anybody else want to kick this kid in the face ? And the mother for letting the shithead get that way?

Yes!
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: spinnis on May 01, 2010, 02:47:31 PM


Does anybody else want to kick this kid in the face ? And the mother for letting the shithead get that way?

I actually think the mother pisses me off more, she has done a HORRIBLE job raising him for him even do Dare doing something like that.
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on May 01, 2010, 04:31:24 PM
Kids are not stupid - they learn very quickly what is right and wrong. You should never hit a kid, period.  Of course, there are going to be times when things dont go your way, or they do something wrong. But you learn other way of discipline.   No television, no computer, no desserts, time out corners, stay in your room, no going to you favorite places, etc.   Hitting is just plain wrong.

Your kids are smarter than you think.  You need to spend time being with them, teaching them, reading with them, instead of just getting angry and lashing out.  If you discuss things with kids, they do undertand. 

I have a 6 1/2 year old daughter and a 4 year old son.  It does work.

Good post!
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: Ursus on May 01, 2010, 07:06:42 PM
Smacking a kid does not teach a kid to be violent I do not think.

Also, whether we choose to ignore or accept this or not, violence is a way of the world. We are competitive animals. We encounter violence and physical confrontation all our lives.

To shy away from such a basic and primal instinct is silly. We do not have to embrace it but to ignore it is a bit daft IMO.

As a kid if my mum or dad tried to put me in a corner for 6 minutes or something stupid I would have been laughing my ass off. Smacking and getting sent to room was a punishment. I was just a bad kid and in hindsight I needed to be smacked otherwise I would have turned out to be a real turd IMO.

Also when I got smacked I respected the authority and never once lashed out back - the combination of respect and fear of reprisals was there always. I was never beaten or bullied. Simply disciplined.

I cannot say with certainty as I will not know until the time, however if I have my own kids I will realise that smacking is not the worst thing in the world to do and it has no lasting harm on a child.
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: BIG DUB on May 01, 2010, 07:38:57 PM
The only "time out" i take is in between dishing out the ass whoopins'..
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: Tapeworm on May 01, 2010, 07:40:44 PM
It won't end well. Parents are humourless these days.

I recently made a witty remark in front of my friend's wife about their son having ginger hair - this has resulted in my mate not being allowed out to play anymore.

She's probably just touchy about the kid being born without a soul.  If you direct her to some support websites, surely she'll see your heart is in the right place.  http://www.jlowman.com/Gingerkids.htm

"Never stop being a Getbigger." - Kiwiol
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: Doug_Steele on May 01, 2010, 07:44:00 PM
I got hit with the belt and that set my ass straight.  >:(

My favorite was my mom making me walk in snow, Go out in and pick out a switch that had ice all over it and then beat my ass again.  >:(

DAMN THAT SHIT HURT.   :'(
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: Luv2Hurt on May 01, 2010, 08:30:48 PM
I actually think the mother pisses me off more, she has done a HORRIBLE job raising him for him even do Dare doing something like that.

Yes she was "Reasoning" with the "inteligent" youngster LOL.

See works great, they are smarter than we think  ::)  Should have given the kid a 2 minute time out, that would have taken care of things.

Its not that kids are "smart" or "smarter than we think" LOL, its just that they have figured out how to manipulate you like a puppet.
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: Fat Personal Trainer on May 01, 2010, 08:58:00 PM
Kids are not stupid - they learn very quickly what is right and wrong. You should never hit a kid, period.  Of course, there are going to be times when things don't go your way, or they do something wrong. But you learn other way of discipline.   No television, no computer, no desserts, time out corners, stay in your room, no going to you favorite places, etc.   Hitting is just plain wrong.

Your kids are smarter than you think.  You need to spend time being with them, teaching them, reading with them, instead of just getting angry and lashing out.  If you discuss things with kids, they do understand. 

I have a 6 1/2 year old daughter and a 4 year old son.  It does work.



This X 1,000


If I hit my kid I am saying to him, "I am hitting you to get you to do what I want you to do."

So what do you think he is going to do when he wants something from his little sister? or the kid in his class? or the kid down the street? He's 7, he cannot understand the difference.

I am 6'3. He is not even 4ft. tall. I don't need to touch him to get what I want. I can just look at him. I can give him my psycho voice and he'll pee his pants.

Yes, my parents spanked me. They did not need to.

I am proud of the fact that my son respects me and responds immediately to me, and I have never spanked him. Not once.

"Time out" works. If it's not working, you need to buy a book and learn how to do it the right way.





Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: Luv2Hurt on May 01, 2010, 10:45:46 PM


This X 1,000


If I hit my kid I am saying to him, "I am hitting you to get you to do what I want you to do."

So what do you think he is going to do when he wants something from his little sister? or the kid in his class? or the kid down the street? He's 7, he cannot understand the difference.

I am 6'3. He is not even 4ft. tall. I don't need to touch him to get what I want. I can just look at him. I can give him my psycho voice and he'll pee his pants.

Yes, my parents spanked me. They did not need to.

I am proud of the fact that my son respects me and responds immediately to me, and I have never spanked him. Not once.

"Time out" works. If it's not working, you need to buy a book and learn how to do it the right way.







So you intimidate your kid by using the "psycho voice" and being 6'3" and standing over him.  These are physical things also, you may not be touching them but you are using physical means to control them, same shit different method.  Yeah maybe a little softer than smaking the crap out of the brat but still bullying them none the less.  Good job you have instilled fear of you in the little angel.  Bet he feels more happy/less fearful when you are not around.
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: James Blunt on May 01, 2010, 11:39:08 PM
I was never hit when I was a kid and I think I turned out alright. My grandmother got old school on me and washed out my mouth with soap once  though. I can still vividly remember what that soap tasted like. I also remember missing out on things. I'd have rather been smacked than miss those things.  :'(
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: splank on May 02, 2010, 05:23:41 AM
I actually think the mother pisses me off more, she has done a HORRIBLE job raising him for him even do Dare doing something like that.

Mom did fuck up raising this kid.

I love it. For all of those who say to give time outs and take toys away.....how do you correct this kid?
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: Devon97 on May 02, 2010, 05:53:36 AM
Oh Brother, Get Biggers giving out advice on parenting lol! ::)

Priceless! ;D

With that being said I was slapped , shoved, and beaten with a leather belt across my bare backside ( often times leaving whelts) on many occasions. However the last time this happened was 6th grade.

The old man tried to force me to study some flash cards back when I was 17 and wouldn't let me leave the room until I studied them. I got up to leave and he got in my way so I threw him out of my way. Nuff said.

Kids that don't receive a powerful corporal punishment grow up to be pussies and cower in the face of adversity.
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: Ursus on May 02, 2010, 09:50:07 AM

Kids that don't receive a powerful corporal punishment grow up to be pussies and cower in the face of adversity.

I agree to an extent. Noone needs a badass generation of kids - however to ignore violence and be hidden from it is not always a good thing.
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: Devon97 on May 02, 2010, 10:09:59 AM
I actually remember back in the 4th or 5th grade my mom was beating me silly so I ran into the garage and started screaming "Abuse!" as loud as I could. Later when my old man got home she told him about it and I was beaten again for insinuating that I was being abused.  :-\


My old man's brother was just the opposite. He would not hit his kids but would put them in the corner of a dark room for hours on end. I remember my old man commenting once how he thought that method of dicipline was " abuse " because it could "warp" the kid lol
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: noworries on May 02, 2010, 10:13:01 AM
back as kid it was normal for your to whip the shit out of you with his belt.  It got to where I knew when it was coming and I would stuff a shirt down my pants for padding.  I spank my oldest daughter once and felt really bad.  Never again
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: Devon97 on May 02, 2010, 10:18:10 AM
back as kid it was normal for your to whip the shit out of you with his belt.  It got to where I knew when it was coming and I would stuff a shirt down my pants for padding.  I spank my oldest daughter once and felt really bad.  Never again

Keith, that sounds like a walk in the park to be honest with you.

I was forced to strip off my trousers and superman underpants and lay face down on the bed while my old man lashed away with a leather belt.  These were not half ass lashes mind you, they were full speed , full strength lashings full of rage! I remember I put my hands back there a few times and it hit my hands and hurt badly. There was something about 9 that was his magic number, he would not stop until he had slashed me 9 times with that harsh leather belt. :-[
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: Oldschool Flip on May 02, 2010, 10:33:43 AM
Kids that don't receive a powerful corporal punishment grow up to be pussies and cower in the face of adversity.
Lol, then that would be practically all the felons that are incarcerated.
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: Oldschool Flip on May 02, 2010, 10:37:25 AM
Keith, that sounds like a walk in the park to be honest with you.

I was forced to strip off my trousers and superman underpants and lay face down on the bed while my old man lashed away with a leather belt.  These were not half ass lashes mind you, they were full speed , full strength lashings full of rage! I remember I put my hands back there a few times and it hit my hands and hurt badly. There was something about 9 that was his magic number, he would not stop until he had slashed me 9 times with that harsh leather belt. :-[
Sounds like corporal punishment works. ::)
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: Devon97 on May 02, 2010, 10:42:10 AM
Are you say'n I should be locked up!?  ;)

Look hoss, I have endured fantastic physical pain like few others ever had and I believe my early beatings helped prepare me for this.
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: Oldschool Flip on May 02, 2010, 10:56:31 AM
Are you say'n I should be locked up!?  ;)

Look hoss, I have endured fantastic physical pain like few others ever had and I believe my early beatings helped prepare me for this.
Everyone feels they have their trials and tribulations that make them the person they are today. People who are hounded by paparazzi and media with no personal life would rather go through some physical pain then endure having their whole life up for everyone to see. It's subjective when it comes to what discipline works best for people.
From my perspective I don't think that physical discipline is necessary, and that although somewhere in someone's life they will have at least one conflict where it will get physical, chances are that they'll live through it and make due just fine.
Now if you're living in an area where assaults, robbery, etc. occur then maybe you should move. ;)
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on May 02, 2010, 11:05:37 AM
I would never beat my wife because that would be unfair. But kids are ok. You don't even need to hit them as hard to make them feel physical and mental anxiety.

Neither of my parents touched me. And I grew up to really value the right of freedom from abuse that we all should have.
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: Devon97 on May 02, 2010, 11:12:20 AM
Everyone feels they have their trials and tribulations that make them the person they are today. People who are hounded by paparazzi and media with no personal life would rather go through some physical pain then endure having their whole life up for everyone to see. It's subjective when it comes to what discipline works best for people.
From my perspective I don't think that physical discipline is necessary, and that although somewhere in someone's life they will have at least one conflict where it will get physical, chances are that they'll live through it and make due just fine.
Now if you're living in an area where assaults, robbery, etc. occur then maybe you should move. ;)

LOL ok "skippy"   ;D Sorry but I don't think a single soul on Earth would ever buy that line. ::)

Something tells me your kids will be going to chior practice and the thespian society instead of football practice!  :-*
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: Oldschool Flip on May 02, 2010, 02:14:59 PM
LOL ok "skippy"   ;D Sorry but I don't think a single soul on Earth would ever buy that line. ::)
Dude, people that post their own pics on this site alone have major meltdowns from the ridicule of getbiggers. Pro bodybuilders alone don't post here because they want to avoid the negative remarks, and this is a big media source for bodybuilding. Imagine if they were hounded by the paparazzi and sleaze mags then dirt was printed about G4P, drug use, etc. Now it's out for EVERYONE to see and remark about and then their family starts getting harassed for info, or being dissected about how they raised their kid. Photographers just hanging around your house, in trees, at work just so they can snap a pic. If you don't care about what people think about you and crave the media attention, they I guess it wouldn't matter, but you hear all the time about actors and actresses losing it because these people are always in their grill.


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Something tells me your kids will be going to chior practice and the thespian society instead of football practice!  :-*
Nah, there ain't no money in it unless you're really talented. My kid will be a doctor, scientist or engineer based on her current interests.  ;D
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: bigbadwolfe on May 02, 2010, 05:15:37 PM
As a kid my ass got whooped and got whooped good!!! You can bet your ass if my kids needed an ass whoopn they got it!!! My kids are 14 and 11 now and they know now I aint gonna whoopem they just lose shit and privelages and now I make em run. Not just run but they do medley type stuff. Run suicides with medicine balls, flip tires, drag sleds, farmers walk etc etc etc.

My boy got 2 detentions this last 9 weeks for incomplete homework assignements. He was grounded for 1 week, lost his board, his phone, computer privelages and he ran simthing everyday he was grounded. Now that we got the gym open and Im running it I got access to everything I need. He is getting disciplined and getting healthy so kinda killing 2 birds with one stone :)

His last medley he did he had to run 25 feet do 10 push ups run back to the start then run 50 feet do 10 jumping jacks run back to the start then run 75 feet do 10 sit ups run back to start then run 100 feet do 10 jump ropes then run back 100 that was 1 cycle we did this 6 times. Every time he did the push ups, situps, jumpn jacks, and jump roping he screamed out I will do my homework.

Then after that we did the same thing except at 25 feet there was an 8 pounds medicine ball, at 50 feet a 12 pound med ball, 75 feet a 16 pound med ball and at 100 a 20 pound med ball. He ran sucides going and getting me each ball. We did 6 of these also. Soooo I dont think he will be forgetting his homework or getting a detention again, if so he'll be running again!!!
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: Devon97 on May 02, 2010, 07:33:32 PM
Dude, people that post their own pics on this site alone have major meltdowns from the ridicule of getbiggers. Pro bodybuilders alone don't post here because they want to avoid the negative remarks, and this is a big media source for bodybuilding. Imagine if they were hounded by the paparazzi and sleaze mags then dirt was printed about G4P, drug use, etc. Now it's out for EVERYONE to see and remark about and then their family starts getting harassed for info, or being dissected about how they raised their kid. Photographers just hanging around your house, in trees, at work just so they can snap a pic. If you don't care about what people think about you and crave the media attention, they I guess it wouldn't matter, but you hear all the time about actors and actresses losing it because these people are always in their grill.

Nah, there ain't no money in it unless you're really talented. My kid will be a doctor, scientist or engineer based on her current interests.  ;D

LOL Oh yea a doctor is a very lucritive profession in the soon-to-be health care system!  :D
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: Oldschool Flip on May 02, 2010, 08:49:14 PM
As a kid my ass got whooped and got whooped good!!! You can bet your ass if my kids needed an ass whoopn they got it!!! My kids are 14 and 11 now and they know now I aint gonna whoopem they just lose shit and privelages and now I make em run. Not just run but they do medley type stuff. Run suicides with medicine balls, flip tires, drag sleds, farmers walk etc etc etc.

My boy got 2 detentions this last 9 weeks for incomplete homework assignements. He was grounded for 1 week, lost his board, his phone, computer privelages and he ran simthing everyday he was grounded. Now that we got the gym open and Im running it I got access to everything I need. He is getting disciplined and getting healthy so kinda killing 2 birds with one stone :)

His last medley he did he had to run 25 feet do 10 push ups run back to the start then run 50 feet do 10 jumping jacks run back to the start then run 75 feet do 10 sit ups run back to start then run 100 feet do 10 jump ropes then run back 100 that was 1 cycle we did this 6 times. Every time he did the push ups, situps, jumpn jacks, and jump roping he screamed out I will do my homework.

Then after that we did the same thing except at 25 feet there was an 8 pounds medicine ball, at 50 feet a 12 pound med ball, 75 feet a 16 pound med ball and at 100 a 20 pound med ball. He ran sucides going and getting me each ball. We did 6 of these also. Soooo I dont think he will be forgetting his homework or getting a detention again, if so he'll be running again!!!
Lol, but if he gets in phenomenal shape and the chicks come around, he may do it so that he can stay in shape all year around!
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: Oldschool Flip on May 02, 2010, 08:53:56 PM
LOL Oh yea a doctor is a very lucritive profession in the soon-to-be health care system!  :D
Doctors still make money and always will especially if they are specialists. It may seem like docs in the US make more, but when you figure in malpractice insurance and frivolous lawsuits, it's really about the same income.
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: Fat Personal Trainer on May 02, 2010, 08:54:41 PM
So you intimidate your kid by using the "psycho voice" and being 6'3" and standing over him.  These are physical things also, you may not be touching them but you are using physical means to control them, same shit different method.  Yeah maybe a little softer than smaking the crap out of the brat but still bullying them none the less.  Good job you have instilled fear of you in the little angel.  Bet he feels more happy/less fearful when you are not around.

No. I put him in time out.

The point is, my voice and size alone could scare the shit out of any 4 year old, so where is the need to hit it all - for any reason?

I must not have been clear enough, so thanks for asking for clarification and also for being so cool in the way you did it.

Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on May 02, 2010, 09:08:18 PM
As a kid my ass got whooped and got whooped good!!! You can bet your ass if my kids needed an ass whoopn they got it!!! My kids are 14 and 11 now and they know now I aint gonna whoopem they just lose shit and privelages and now I make em run. Not just run but they do medley type stuff. Run suicides with medicine balls, flip tires, drag sleds, farmers walk etc etc etc.

My boy got 2 detentions this last 9 weeks for incomplete homework assignements. He was grounded for 1 week, lost his board, his phone, computer privelages and he ran simthing everyday he was grounded. Now that we got the gym open and Im running it I got access to everything I need. He is getting disciplined and getting healthy so kinda killing 2 birds with one stone :)

His last medley he did he had to run 25 feet do 10 push ups run back to the start then run 50 feet do 10 jumping jacks run back to the start then run 75 feet do 10 sit ups run back to start then run 100 feet do 10 jump ropes then run back 100 that was 1 cycle we did this 6 times. Every time he did the push ups, situps, jumpn jacks, and jump roping he screamed out I will do my homework.

Then after that we did the same thing except at 25 feet there was an 8 pounds medicine ball, at 50 feet a 12 pound med ball, 75 feet a 16 pound med ball and at 100 a 20 pound med ball. He ran sucides going and getting me each ball. We did 6 of these also. Soooo I dont think he will be forgetting his homework or getting a detention again, if so he'll be running again!!!

Nice way to kill the motivation for any kind of exercising.
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: funk51 on May 03, 2010, 12:19:38 PM
I actually think the mother pisses me off more, she has done a HORRIBLE job raising him for him even do Dare doing something like that.
            i see a great future for this kid in the wwe.
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: noworries on May 03, 2010, 05:39:56 PM
Keith, that sounds like a walk in the park to be honest with you.

I was forced to strip off my trousers and superman underpants and lay face down on the bed while my old man lashed away with a leather belt.  These were not half ass lashes mind you, they were full speed , full strength lashings full of rage! I remember I put my hands back there a few times and it hit my hands and hurt badly. There was something about 9 that was his magic number, he would not stop until he had slashed me 9 times with that harsh leather belt. :-[

You're right but it was enough for me.  My dad was big at 6'2" about 230 and from Texas.  So he could pack a spanking.  But, nothing like I have others get.  No face hitting or anything other than the butt.
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 03, 2010, 05:43:55 PM
You're right but it was enough for me.  My dad was big at 6'2" about 230 and from Texas.  So he could pack a spanking.  But, nothing like I have others get.  No face hitting or anything other than the butt.
I got hit in face by a 230 pound brute called my dad now he is disabled I cant force myself to go see him, this kind of stuff fucks with your mind.
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: Ex Coelis on May 03, 2010, 06:08:00 PM
I can't imagine striking a child
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: brent2741 on May 03, 2010, 09:00:38 PM
a swat on the ass every now and then is fine, but you have to be careful when using physical discipline when you as the parent are very angry b/c you can inflict more harm than intended without malicious intent. but as a parent myself the key to me discipline my son is being constant in whatever or however i decide to discipline him
Title: Re: those of you with kids.. re physical discipline?
Post by: newmom on May 04, 2010, 02:58:43 AM
Oh yes Brent consistency is key