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I'm 100% against it.
If the feds aren't gonna enforce laws on the books, then the states have every right to create their own.
I have not a problem with what Arizona is doing. I agree 100% if someone is stopped, and is suspected of being illegal, run a check on them and if they're illegal, reign 'em in.
I have no sympathy for any of them. There are legal ways of going about this and the libs are showing sympathy stories of people that have been here 10+ years and made a decent life for themselves...Problem is, THEY ARE HERE ILLEGALLY!!!!
Get the fuck out, go back to your country and do it the right way.
I have no problem with Mexicans, I have problems with ILLEGAL ALIENS PERIOD.
Oh yeah....They took our jobs......DURKA DUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
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I'm 100% against it.
If the feds aren't gonna enforce laws on the books, then the states have every right to create their own.
I have not a problem with what Arizona is doing. I agree 100% if someone is stopped, and is suspected of being illegal, run a check on them and if they're illegal, reign 'em in.
I have no sympathy for any of them. There are legal ways of going about this and the libs are showing sympathy stories of people that have been here 10+ years and made a decent life for themselves...Problem is, THEY ARE HERE ILLEGALLY!!!!
Get the fuck out, go back to your country and do it the right way.
I have no problem with Mexicans, I have problems with ILLEGAL ALIENS PERIOD.
Oh yeah....They took our jobs......DURKA DUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
WIGGS!!!!!!!
Something we agree on! Here Here Brother!!!!!!! Preach on!
As far as I am concerned round up all the illegals and send them back to their country!
I have not problem with Legal Immigration. If you want to come to this country, follow the laws that are on the books even as archaic as they are, the law is the law....
BOOOYAHHH!!!!
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I'm with Wiggs on this one, we dont need anymore apple pickers.
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I'm 100% against it.
If the feds aren't gonna enforce laws on the books, then the states have every right to create their own.
I have not a problem with what Arizona is doing. I agree 100% if someone is stopped, and is suspected of being illegal, run a check on them and if they're illegal, reign 'em in.
I have no sympathy for any of them. There are legal ways of going about this and the libs are showing sympathy stories of people that have been here 10+ years and made a decent life for themselves...Problem is, THEY ARE HERE ILLEGALLY!!!!
Get the fuck out, go back to your country and do it the right way.
I have no problem with Mexicans, I have problems with ILLEGAL ALIENS PERIOD.
Oh yeah....They took our jobs......DURKA DUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
There is a right way into this country and a wrong way , you can't start off your stay here by breaking the law. if you want to come into this country legally and contribute more power to you and we welcome you with open arms.
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I've met plenty of them that are hard workers and nice people. That's great BUT do it the right way.
Everyone has a sympathy story and if we let them in we'd really be in trouble.
Grow some balls and quit worrying about hurting people's feelings.
I disagree with children of illegals being American citizens. Legality is not bread from illegality.
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Get the eff out or go get in line, if you have to wait longer, oh well. And when you do come in, you are now American. Not Mexican, etc. American
this also goes for the Africans, Russians, Israelis, Pakis, Indians, Canadians (Melyssa Ford was here illegally when she first got here), Euros, Chinese, Koreans, El Salvadorians, Guatamalans, Hondorans.
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I disagree with children of illegals being American citizens. Legality is not bread from illegality.
OMG someone agrees with me on this. I love kids, I really do. But it all needs to be done right. I'm all for trying to make a better life for yourself and family but do it right and SPEAK OUR FUCKING LANGUAGE..not saying it has to be perfect English but none the less
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OMG someone agrees with me on this. I love kids, I really do. But it all needs to be done right. I'm all for trying to make a better life for yourself and family but do it right and SPEAK OUR FUCKING LANGUAGE..not saying it has to be perfect English but none the less
X2 new.
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I'm also 100% against it. Just unsure about laws that give cops more invasive power and leary of where it leads. I liked it before when border patrol actually worked and they let it work. There were countless stories over the last 15 years of how BP was being hindered from doing their job. That's what's disgusting to me. Fact is this can now turn into an easy reason to pull over anyone based on any color. So basically no reason to pull you over. Illegals can come in all colors. Again, I've spent more time on this board arguing against illegals than anyone here, or at least as much, a simple 30 second search will show you that. I'm just not sure I like putting Americans in the crossfire of getting rid of illegals.
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i dont think anyone here is saying 'let the illegals stay!'
no... I think some of us are not cool with giving the local inbred deputy more power to require papers of anyone at any time - at their own discretion.
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The US hands out all kinds of benefits to illegals and then the people expect that they won't show up in droves? hahaha You guys want to be angry at someone be angry with the people that allow these benefits to be be dished out to illegals like candy.
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[...]Legality is not bread from illegality.
;D ;D ;D ;D
R-E-A-L-L-Y?
You just described 99% of the countries that have existed, exist and will exist on this earth.
Our country, by all accounts, was "bread" from what we nowadays would have no problem in describing as an illegal invasion, meaning the pilgrims got here, stole the land and killed its native inhabitants.
That's how the US was born.
So pardon me if I, amongst many others, view this "illegals" Cinderella story as a good round of all-American hypocrisy.
Cheers.
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i dont think anyone here is saying 'let the illegals stay!'
no... I think some of us are not cool with giving the local inbred deputy more power to require papers of anyone at any time - at their own discretion.
If we don't give the local authorities the power to check citizenship if stopped for a traffic violation, then who should have it? You may not agree with Joe Arpaio's methods but at least he is doing something about it where the Fed's are not. Arizona was forced to do this because of the crime and the spilling over of the cartel violence. I wish Texas would do the same. Rick Perry the Gov of Texas sent Texas Ranger's down to the border to "help" the border patrol. They cannot do anything. Even if they are fired upon they cannot return fire. It was a move on his part to gain Political Points with everyone. Shoot a few of the people coming over and see how many are detracted from coming here. After all, they are breaking the law.
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OMG someone agrees with me on this. I love kids, I really do. But it all needs to be done right. I'm all for trying to make a better life for yourself and family but do it right and SPEAK OUR FUCKING LANGUAGE..not saying it has to be perfect English but none the less
Yep. I agree with you: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=328119.0
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;D ;D ;D ;D
R-E-A-L-L-Y?
You just described 99% of the countries that have existed, exist and will exist on this earth.
Our country, by all accounts, was "bread" from what we nowadays would have no problem in describing as an illegal invasion, meaning the pilgrims got here, stole the land and killed its native inhabitants.
That's how the US was born.
So pardon me if I, amongst many others, view this "illegals" Cinderella story as a good round of all-American hypocrisy.
Cheers.
How it started is a non-factor. Hundreds of years after it started, we made laws and those laws need to be enforced, if the "Federal" gov can't or won't enforce them, then every state should have the right to enforce them.
It's the same way the civil war started, it's all about states rights. Look out for CWII!!!!!!
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^^^^^^
chaos is a mexican.......he has been fooling all of us!!!!!
;D
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If your here illegally, get the fuck out is my position. However, I would rabidly support 100 illegal immigraints staying in America forever in exchange for Slapper being deported to Afghanistan permanently. Anyone else take a similar view on this issue?
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If your here illegally, get the fuck out is my position. However, I would rabidly support 100 illegal immigraints staying in America forever in exchange for Slapper being deported to Afghanistan permanently. Anyone else take a similar view on this issue?
my stance is get the fuck out....unless you own, or work at any of the restaurants i eat at daily...i consider them to be on my team ...
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If your here illegally, get the fuck out is my position. However, I would rabidly support 100 illegal immigraints staying in America forever in exchange for Slapper being deported to Afghanistan permanently. Anyone else take a similar view on this issue?
Well, I could almost picture this scenario.
Slapper goes to Arizona to protest the new immigration bill and while driving about 70 miles from the border for his next protest meeting, he gets abducted by a vicious illegal alien who mistakes him for the son of a wealthy local.
Illegal Alien Kidnapper:Ok you filthy gringo, call your father now..I want $50,000.00 or I cut your f..king throat.
Slapper:First of all, let me say I completely understand you..I know where you're coming from and I totally empathize with your plight. In fact, I'm here to support your civil rights?
Illegal alien kidnapper: Huh?
Slapper: Yes my amigo...I know you have come here to seek a better life and the fact that you must resort to kidnapping makes me even more determined to help you and all the others like you.. to stay in this country regardless of your circumstances. Even if you killed 100's of these greedy, capitalistic xenophobic americans, I would still be on your side and I would still march for your rights. I don't even think there should be a border. I welcome all of Mexico..whether you're a tomato picker, drug cartel murderer, baby momma squeezing out 10 little chiuahas..whatever..I'm for you.
Illegal Alien Kidnapper: So your dad isn't rich?
Slapper: Not really, man Slice (Kidnapper cuts Slapper's throat ear to ear.)Gurgle..........
Illegal Alien Kidnapper: Stupid Gringo.
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chaos is a mexican.......he has been fooling all of us!!!!!
;D
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If I ever run through Texas, I owe you one for this. ;)
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If I ever run through Texas, I owe you one for this. ;)
i dont mind.....everybody deserves 1 free shot...
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i dont mind.....everybody deserves 1 free shot...
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^^^^^^
chaos is a mexican.......he has been fooling all of us!!!!!
;D
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I knew it a master con artist, but cool.
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If your here illegally, get the fuck out is my position. However, I would rabidly support 100 illegal immigraints staying in America forever in exchange for Slapper being deported to Afghanistan permanently. Anyone else take a similar view on this issue?
lol. :D
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I'm with Wiggs on this one, we dont need anymore apple pickers.
You will when apples are gonna be $10 /lbs. :o
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I am a legal immigrant in USA. I have paid close to $20,000 over the past 10 years in legal and government fees to get myself to the point where I am a permanent resident. I have worked and paid taxes during this time and contributed to social security. I am all for the Arizona law that was recently made public.
If my status / identity was questioned because of my accent I would not care and provide my proof as requested. I welcome this because I had to pay my way into the system. Why should an illegal immigrant be given a free pass when I had to pay dearly for it. The only people really that will be inconvenienced by this law are illegal and legal immigrants. I am sure a lot of other legal immigrants would feel the same way I do. So really only the illegals won't like it which sucks but hey you broke the law.
Maybe cops will profile Hispanics in the process - but you know what the majority of illegal immigrants are Hispanic so too bad. The legal Hispanic immigrant should feel the same way I do about proving identity with a clear conscience.
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does anyone agree with me that we should break the leg of any illegal and drop them at the southernmost tip of Mexico?
i think they'd leave in droves.
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I am a legal immigrant in USA. I have paid close to $20,000 over the past 10 years in legal and government fees to get myself to the point where I am a permanent resident. I have worked and paid taxes during this time and contributed to social security. I am all for the Arizona law that was recently made public.
If my status / identity was questioned because of my accent I would not care and provide my proof as requestred. I welcome this because I had to pay my way into the system. Why should an illegal immigrant be given a free pass when I had to pay dearly for it. The only people really that will be inconvenienced by this law are illegal and legal immigrants. I am sure a lot of other legal immigrants would feel the same way I do. So really only the illegals won't like it which sucks but hey you broke the law.
Maybe cops will profile Hispanics in the process - but you know what the majority of illegal immigrants are hispanic so too bad. The legal hispanic immigrant should feel the same way I do about prooving identity with a clear consience.
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner. :) Well said. I don't agree with profiling, but legal immigrants are already required to have their "papers" on them anyway, and most adult American citizens have a driver's license or ID, so I really don't see this is as being a burden on American citizens or legal immigrants.
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I like to walk my dog without my wallet.
if I jaywalk and don't have any ID... can I be deported?
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see... if you're going to commit to kicking them out, you need to make it harder for them to
1) find their way back to the border (it's a long walk from south mex), and
2) actually make that walk, on crutches.
Plus you'll scare many who love their legs into leaving before we find them. And, any champions that do return will be easily recognizable from the limp.
it's a win-win. :D
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I like to walk my dog without my wallet.
if I jaywalk and don't have any ID... can I be deported?
yes 240 there is also a sodomy clause in this bill as well...they can drag you from your car to the border tied with a rope attached to their racist trailer hitch stopping every 15 mins to sodomize you and culminating in throwing your ass over the border when they reach it...
DIP SHIT MOTHER FUKCER... ;D :D ;)
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How it started is a non-factor. Hundreds of years after it started, we made laws and those laws need to be enforced, if the "Federal" gov can't or won't enforce them, then every state should have the right to enforce them.
It's the same way the civil war started, it's all about states rights. Look out for CWII!!!!!!
And you know what? I'm not contesting that. What I am contesting is that legality is indeed bred from ilegality. And our country is a perfect example of it.
As far as CWII goes... bring it on motherfuckers!
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I'm 100% against it.
If the feds aren't gonna enforce laws on the books, then the states have every right to create their own.
I have not a problem with what Arizona is doing. I agree 100% if someone is stopped, and is suspected of being illegal, run a check on them and if they're illegal, reign 'em in.
I have no sympathy for any of them. There are legal ways of going about this and the libs are showing sympathy stories of people that have been here 10+ years and made a decent life for themselves...Problem is, THEY ARE HERE ILLEGALLY!!!!
Get the fuck out, go back to your country and do it the right way.
I have no problem with Mexicans, I have problems with ILLEGAL ALIENS PERIOD.
Oh yeah....They took our jobs......DURKA DUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
Completely AGREED....
btw...now half this board classifies you as racist :-\
but we HAVE to do something about it....IF amnesty happens...you have any idea how many pakistanis,indians,balgledeshi,iranians,africans,russians....> fill out long list...have their fingers poised on the student visa and tourist visa button..just waiting to make a move
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n oh...if amnesty happens...my family and i would like the 80 or so grand back we spent getting to the US legally on a business visa...
thankyou
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n oh...if amnesty happens...my family and i would like the 80 or so grand back we spent getting to the US legally on a business visa...
thankyou
80 grand? are you admitting to bribes made to get here?
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80 grand? are you admitting to bribes made to get here?
its called lawyers fees with an L1, L2 visa and then a greencard a few years later..and then a citizenship a few years after that....and oh yeah...i also have no problem getting stopped by the police or at the airport to get checked....i know on occasion ...especially with short hair and in the summer sometimes i look mexican...soo i have no problem getting stopped on the road..and since i AM originally from pakistan...i have absolutely no problem getting stopped at the airport...i'm legal and have nothing to hide
L1 visa > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L-1_visa
L2 visa > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L-2_visa
cue Mr chalu..errr Hugo to throw a bitch fit...1..2...3..go!
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its called lawyers fees with an L1, L2 visa and then a greencard a few years later..and then a citizenship a few years after that....and oh yeah...i also have no problem getting stopped by the police or at the airport to get checked....i know on occasion ...especially with short hair and in the summer sometimes i look mexican...soo i have no problem getting stopped on the road..and since i AM originally from pakistan...i have absolutely no problem getting stopped at the airport...i'm legal and have nothing to hide
L1 visa > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L-1_visa
L2 visa > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L-2_visa
cue Mr chalu..errr Hugo to throw a bitch fit...1..2...3..go!
relax jackass, I was just asking. I thought you were suggesting the visa cost that.
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relax jackass, I was just asking. I thought you were suggesting the visa cost that.
it did...in lawyer fees....
are you admitting to bribes made to get here?
and ya sure phrase your questions funny and then do a quick backpaddle....
so 6 yrs ago on the X :-\
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I like to walk my dog without my wallet.
if I jaywalk and don't have any ID... can I be deported?
We can only hope so.
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I like to walk my dog without my wallet.
if I jaywalk and don't have any ID... can I be deported?
no but they should be able to follow you home so you can produce an ID....otherwise you end up joining the ranks n ranks of people that say " yeah i dont like illegals but cant really do anything about it" :-\
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If I saw an illegal, and he in any way did anything to disrupt my country, I'd probably conduct a citizens arrest, throw him in a knapsack, drive him over the border and throw him out of my moving vehicle.
keep all the paperwork out of it, you know?
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If I saw an illegal, and he in any way did anything to disrupt my country, I'd probably conduct a citizens arrest, throw him in a knapsack, drive him over the border and throw him out of my moving vehicle.
keep all the paperwork out of it, you know?
people like hugo (and there r millions of em) cant even be swayed to check for papers...let alone grabbing one and throwing it across the border...
see my point....i'd be ALL for sweeping house checks...and yanno those rallies they have...hell...great place to nab 10,000 illegals at 1 go....
being illegal used to be that you stayed hidden and didn't call attention....the FACT that these fucks can have open rallies? thats ridiculous
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...and yanno those rallies they have...hell...great place to nab 10,000 illegals at 1 go....
being illegal used to be that you stayed hidden and didn't call attention....the FACT that these fucks can have open rallies? thats ridiculous
Exactly, I don't understand how illegals can get the paperwork to legally hold a rally, let alone attend one without being arrested and deported.
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They know we are too cowardly to kick their asses out.
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They know we are too cowardly to kick their asses out.
Yep, pretty much my opinion too.
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people like hugo (and there r millions of em) cant even be swayed to check for papers...let alone grabbing one and throwing it across the border...
see my point....i'd be ALL for sweeping house checks...and yanno those rallies they have...hell...great place to nab 10,000 illegals at 1 go....
being illegal used to be that you stayed hidden and didn't call attention....the FACT that these fucks can have open rallies? thats ridiculous
says the jackass that thinks the best way to deal with illegals is to place landmines across the southern border and shoot them as the come across ::) Why should I give a shit about your opinion? 3 years ago you were posting about lighting bombs and hoping our troops get killed! Shouldn't you be back in paki starting some terrorist training camp or some stupid shit ::)
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says the jackass that thinks the best way to deal with illegals is to place landmines across the southern border and shoot them as the come across ::) Why should I give a shit about your opinion? 3 years ago you were posting about lighting bombs and hoping our troops get killed! Shouldn't you be back in paki starting some terrorist training camp or some stupid shit ::)
3 years ago i ws posting about lightining bombs? please do post that drunken rant of mine so i may see.....if i said something along those lines...i'm sure i had SOME motive or reason.....
now i must leave you tacobell....i'm sure your illegal girlfriend awaits! :)
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oooo..
hmm i wanna light a fuse to a bomb..then pull back..and ask yall about "your plan"
lol...
Bush fucked ys for YEARS to come...
i just hope when the terrorists breeding in iraq..due to bush.. do attack..some of yall family mambers do die..
amen..
hey i had a chinky friend die in iraq..i want you all to feel the sting also..soo i'll b praying for some republican soldiers to die..
hey soldiers r gonna die ANYHOW..might as well be the ones that were pro war.. ;)
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You have to seriously hate America to pray for our troops to get killed ::) I've been against the war but never ever would I say shit like that Toxic. Not even if I were blitzed out of my mind. Oh and you said it in Political 3 years ago, not on the X 6 years ago. So when we were heading into the last presidential election, you were praying for republicans and republican troops to die and talking about lighting bombs....
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awesome! and ws that directed to maybe Bezerkfury or that military dood i especially dislike?
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You have to seriously hate America to pray for our troops to get killed ::) I've been against the war but never ever would I say shit like that Toxic. Not even if I were blitzed out of my mind. Oh and you said it in Political 3 years ago, not on the X 6 years ago. So when we were heading into the last presidential election, you were praying for republicans and republican troops to die and talking about lighting bombs....
on that note...wouldn't bother me 1 itsy bit for one of your family members to get blown up by terrorists in iraq...
again...i have no religious affiliation...i'd consider it darwanism! :)
yes i disliked bush....and you liked me then....now i've changed...and i hate obamination...now ya dislike me?
at least i change with the times tacobell!
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if you cant speak a lick of english..most likely youre gonna get shit from az LE. deal with it :'(
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on that note...wouldn't bother me 1 itsy bit for one of your family members to get blown up by terrorists in iraq...
again...i have no religious affiliation...i'd consider it darwanism! :)
yes i disliked bush....and you liked me then....now i've changed...and i hate obamination...now ya dislike me?
at least i change with the times tacobell!
::) I didn't like bush and I don't like Obama. I was the first person here to vote for him that turned against him, just ask 333. As usual you don't have a fucking clue of what you're talking about.
Don't be attacking people's family here. Next time you're branned, read the rules. The fact that you wish that kind of shit on other Americans just tells me how much you don't deserve the honor of being an American. I disagree with a lot of people here but have never wished them dead or even mused at the notion. You're out of your mind paki. Hopefully somebody at DHS is getting copies of these radical statements. ;)
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::) I didn't like bush and I don't like Obama. I was the first person here to vote for him that turned against him, just ask 333. As usual you don't have a fucking clue of what you're talking about.
Don't be attacking people's family here. Next time you're branned, read the rules. The fact that you wish that kind of shit on other Americans just tells me how much you don't deserve the honor of being an American. I disagree with a lot of people here but have never wished them dead or even mused at the notion. You're out of your mind paki. Hopefully somebody at DHS is getting copies of these radical statements. ;)
How are you going to bran him?
I thought you were quitting the mod spot anyway, WTF do you care what anyone says?
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I'll use a BS branding iron :)
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