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Title: SImple sugar right before workout?
Post by: coltrane on May 04, 2010, 08:31:57 AM
MOst people will tell you to eat some simple sugars right before going to the gym for energy.

But wouldn't this increase insulin output and hamper strenghth? 
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Post by: Mr. Magoo on May 04, 2010, 09:13:56 AM
who has ever said to eat a simple sugar right before a workout?  ???
Title: Re: SImple sugar right before workout?
Post by: coltrane on May 04, 2010, 10:41:00 AM
who has ever said to eat a simple sugar right before a workout?  ???

Some eat fruit etc.

Ive been doing some oatmeal and a can of tuna about an hour prior to lifting.
Title: Re: SImple sugar right before workout?
Post by: benchmstr on May 04, 2010, 12:00:17 PM
i dont have any sugar before a workout.......after a workout though i usually have 10 oz of orange juice, and half a bag of gummi bears...then my shake...

bench
Title: Re: SImple sugar right before workout?
Post by: tbombz on May 04, 2010, 02:53:12 PM
if your trying to put on size, then one of the best things you can do (nutritionally) is to drink some sugars/carbs before/during/after your workouts.
Title: Re: SImple sugar right before workout?
Post by: pac-man on May 05, 2010, 04:12:51 PM
This plays into my thread about in training supplements.  I think it is a good thing to have a some simple sugars right before or even during the workout. 

If you are about to step on contest stage or trying to get your bodyfat into the low single digits maybe it's an issue but for most people it is adventageous. 
Title: Re: SImple sugar right before workout?
Post by: Montague on May 05, 2010, 05:08:51 PM
At least start consuming your aminos, shake, carbs, etc. while training.
Exercise depletes your body of all that stuff, and waiting until you’re finished means you’ve been increasingly depleting for the last hour – or however long your workout lasts – before feeding.

That’s why I always take my BCAA’s (or something) before my workout.
I want it to at least be entering my bloodstream by the time I begin training.

Milos is also a big advocate of inter-workout supplementation for similar reasons, and I agree.
Title: Re: SImple sugar right before workout?
Post by: rccs on May 05, 2010, 05:37:52 PM
MOst people will tell you to eat some simple sugars right before going to the gym for energy.

But wouldn't this increase insulin output and hamper strenghth? 
Yes! Sugar before workout can be disastrous. I am speaking for experience...
Title: Re: SImple sugar right before workout?
Post by: Montague on May 05, 2010, 05:54:15 PM
Yes! Sugar before workout can be disastrous. I am speaking for experience...


How much were you taking?
Title: Re: SImple sugar right before workout?
Post by: rccs on May 05, 2010, 06:10:31 PM

How much were you taking?
10grs... and 20 min into the workout I started to feel weak, dizzy and thirsty... and without realizing that it was because of the sugar...
Title: Re: SImple sugar right before workout?
Post by: Montague on May 05, 2010, 06:15:00 PM
Wow, 10 grams?
Are you normally sensitive to sugar?

Can you handle it okay after your workout?
Title: Re: SImple sugar right before workout?
Post by: rccs on May 05, 2010, 06:27:14 PM
Wow, 10 grams?
Are you normally sensitive to sugar?

Can you handle it okay after your workout?
After the WO it feels great, but I might add that if I don't eat within an hour I start to get weak again (when I eat simple sugars after WO). I have no kind of diabetes, fortunatelly.
Title: Re: SImple sugar right before workout?
Post by: Montague on May 05, 2010, 06:44:09 PM
After the WO it feels great, but I might add that if I don't eat within an hour I start to get weak again (when I eat simple sugars after WO). I have no kind of diabetes, fortunatelly.


That's interesting.

Have you ever had your thyroid tested?
Thyroid conditions can affect carb catabolism and a whole slew of other things, and you don't need to exhibit ALL of the symptoms to have a disorder.
Also, I believe they recently changed the numbers regarding what constitutes thyroid disorders.
Title: Re: SImple sugar right before workout?
Post by: pac-man on May 06, 2010, 03:12:10 AM
10grs... and 20 min into the workout I started to feel weak, dizzy and thirsty... and without realizing that it was because of the sugar...

Ya 10 grams is a pretty low amount to be making you feel like that.  This is going to be one of those "everyone is different" type things but I can't see most people getting those effects from 10 grams of simple sugars/carbs.  

What exactly were you consuming?  Juice, dextrose, a certain supplement...?
Title: Re: SImple sugar right before workout?
Post by: rccs on May 06, 2010, 05:14:15 AM
Ya 10 grams is a pretty low amount to be making you feel like that.  This is going to be one of those "everyone is different" type things but I can't see most people getting those effects from 10 grams of simple sugars/carbs.  

What exactly were you consuming?  Juice, dextrose, a certain supplement...?
Maltodextrin... for the record, if I consume more than 10 grs of sugar I feel euphoric... the same goes to caffeine (I stopped consuming caffeine years ago)... another example is that weed gets me into a rash of rage... doctors said that I am hypersensible to almost every kind of stimulant and that I must be very carefull when some drug is prescribed to me because it can provoque some serious damage in the central nervous system. I always carry with me a pill of valium, just in case... :-[
Title: Re: SImple sugar right before workout?
Post by: pac-man on May 07, 2010, 03:20:40 AM
Maltodextrin... for the record, if I consume more than 10 grs of sugar I feel euphoric... the same goes to caffeine (I stopped consuming caffeine years ago)... another example is that weed gets me into a rash of rage... doctors said that I am hypersensible to almost every kind of stimulant and that I must be very carefull when some drug is prescribed to me because it can provoque some serious damage in the central nervous system. I always carry with me a pill of valium, just in case... :-[

Well it sounds like you are pretty sensative to certain substances and even macronutrients.  10 grams of carbs are nothing for most people although maltodextrin can act pretty quickly.
Title: Re: SImple sugar right before workout?
Post by: tbombz on May 09, 2010, 09:21:51 AM
sensitivity is in the mind..
Title: Re: SImple sugar right before workout?
Post by: Montague on May 09, 2010, 09:27:32 AM
sensitivity is in the mind..


Tell that to a diabetic!
 ;D
Title: Re: SImple sugar right before workout?
Post by: WOOO on May 09, 2010, 05:23:11 PM
Digesting while working out is not a good thing...
Title: Re: SImple sugar right before workout?
Post by: tbombz on May 10, 2010, 09:56:49 AM

Tell that to a diabetic!
 ;D
lol..   i was refering more to the "HYPER SENSITIVE TO STIMULANTS" guy..  

people create their response with anticipation, especially with drugs.

on a side note.. yes its possible to "give yourself a placebo effect"... even in the absence of any 'placebo' drug...   
Title: Re: SImple sugar right before workout?
Post by: AG1983 on May 10, 2010, 07:57:10 PM
i usually drink coffee after workout with organic sugar
Title: Re: SImple sugar right before workout?
Post by: Montague on May 10, 2010, 08:29:37 PM
Why do you wait until after?
Title: Re: SImple sugar right before workout?
Post by: rccs on May 11, 2010, 05:16:29 AM
lol..   i was refering more to the "HYPER SENSITIVE TO STIMULANTS" guy..  

people create their response with anticipation, especially with drugs.

on a side note.. yes its possible to "give yourself a placebo effect"... even in the absence of any 'placebo' drug...   
You are wrong! 3 years ago I was with a cold and I went to the pharmacy to buy something to lower the fever and the sore throat. I bought it and took it... 2 hours later I was already in the hospital with severe tachycardia... the doctors told me that the pill had 70mg of caffeine, that provoqued that condition. To fix it, they gave me a valium so that things could come back to normal. You get my point right? I don't need to draw it to you or need I?
Title: Re: SImple sugar right before workout?
Post by: pac-man on May 11, 2010, 10:10:35 AM
Rccs, you obviously know what you experienced so act accordingly in your what you do and don't put in your body.

With all due respect to Tbombz...this is a prime example of where advices, suggestions, whatever on an internet message board needs to be taken with "a grain of salt" so to speak.  If a someone has a certain condition that is triggered by something...well than it is not "in the mind".

Too go back to the origional question though...most people will not react that way.  Too me, sugars are not a bad thing unless you have a condition like rccs's.
Title: Re: SImple sugar right before workout?
Post by: tbombz on May 11, 2010, 10:45:30 AM
i have a few friends just like you, who have extreme reactions to drugs of all kinds, not just stimulants

did i ever doubt that you experienced extreme effects??


i just was speaking on the source of your responsiveness..


in my experience people do it to themselves


of course there are always some exceptions, people who actually have a disorder
Title: Re: SImple sugar right before workout?
Post by: Moen on May 12, 2010, 09:31:05 AM
Sugar before a workout = bad idea. Both Scott Abel (blood sugar crash during) and Poliquin (insulin blunts catecholamine release) have spoken on this recently and on this I agree with Poliquin. You want your stimulants to have their full effect, no carbs close to the onset of your training.
Title: Re: SImple sugar right before workout?
Post by: tbombz on May 12, 2010, 09:39:09 AM
if eating carbs or drinking sugars before your workout makes you feel tired, lethargic, lazy, or just inhibits your training in some way... then i would not do it!! 


but if your training isnt impeded upon by doing so, then its a very very good idea to take some carbs/sugars before-during-after the workkout