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Title: Illegals call Black Guy racist for opposing illegal immigration. Video.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 04, 2010, 07:21:17 PM
Go the hell home you free loading roaches!

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Post by: Soul Crusher on May 04, 2010, 07:24:13 PM
I wonder how many tacos that pig at :53 ate last week.  What a cow. 
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Post by: drkaje on May 04, 2010, 07:25:16 PM
LOFL!!
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Post by: tonymctones on May 04, 2010, 07:55:11 PM
Its fuking disgraceful what this country is coming to... :'(
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Post by: 24KT on May 04, 2010, 08:07:38 PM
You title this thread as if a Black man can't be racist.  :-\  Let me assure they can.
There is no evidence however to credibly suggest that this man against illegal immigration is a racist.
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Post by: Soul Crusher on May 04, 2010, 08:17:37 PM
Isnt it ironic that these roaches are calling the black guy racist for opposing illegal behavior? 

IMHO its completely disgraceful and those bums should be sent packing to toronto where you are and see how much you like them. 
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Post by: Skip8282 on May 04, 2010, 08:24:17 PM
That's their idea of dropping the bomb.  Can't argue based on the merits, so you just start yelling racism.
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Post by: 24KT on May 04, 2010, 08:34:46 PM
Isnt it ironic that these roaches are calling the black guy racist for opposing illegal behavior? 

IMHO its completely disgraceful and those bums should be sent packing to toronto where you are and see how much you like them. 

Considering the fact that we don't have much of an agricultural base up here, and leaf blowers are outlawed, we wouldn't have as much use for them as you do.
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Post by: 24KT on May 04, 2010, 08:40:37 PM
That's their idea of dropping the bomb.  Can't argue based on the merits, so you just start yelling racism.

I doubt that is the case. From what I've seen however, the majority of anti-illegal immigration sentiments are couched in racism and latinophobia (if that's a word). It's pretty disgusting really, if not ironic & hypocritical.  Most people don't care about illegals (as long as they're from Canada)... but the moment they appear from south of your border, these same people are up in arms claiming how American jobs are being taken away. It's really the Canadian illegals who take US jobs from Americans, and they fly right under the radar. The hispanic illegals take the jobs Americans don't want to do, and they keep the prices of your produce low.
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Post by: tonymctones on May 04, 2010, 08:44:05 PM
Considering the fact that we don't have much of an agricultural base up here, and leaf blowers are outlawed, we wouldn't have as much use for them as you do.
why are leaf blowers outlawed? noise?
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Post by: Hugo Chavez on May 04, 2010, 08:47:36 PM
I wonder how many tacos that pig at :53 ate last week.  What a cow. 
yea, she needs to cut way way back on the lard in her refried beans.
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Post by: 24KT on May 04, 2010, 08:48:02 PM
why are leaf blowers outlawed? noise?

noise & emissions.
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Post by: tonymctones on May 04, 2010, 08:49:01 PM
I doubt that is the case. From what I've seen however, the majority of anti-illegal immigration sentiments are couched in racism and latinophobia (if that's a word). It's pretty disgusting really, if not ironic & hypocritical.  Most people don't care about illegals (as long as they're from Canada)... but the moment they appear from south of your border, these same people are up in arms claiming how American jobs are being taken away. It's really the Canadian illegals who take US jobs from Americans, and they fly right under the radar. The hispanic illegals take the jobs Americans don't want to do, and they keep the prices of your produce low.
absolutely not...this isnt a race thing is a legal issue  ::)

canadian illegals dont present alot of the problems mexican illegals do...you have alot of gangs up there in canada? they do in mexico...you have alot of drug smuggling going on in canada? they do in mexico?...Many would do the jobs illegals do jag that is a misconception and a rather bad one at that...

it isnt a race thing and the fact you keep trying to make it one says volumes about you  ::)
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Post by: tonymctones on May 04, 2010, 08:50:55 PM
noise & emissions.
are yall still allowed to have aerosol cans?

when are they going to start regulating your flatus?
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Post by: 24KT on May 04, 2010, 08:54:56 PM
are yall still allowed to have aerosol cans?

when are they going to start regulating your flatus?

Who the heck would want to use aerosol sprays when they are so destructive to the environment when there are alternative non destructive propellants available? Since I don't fart, I wouldn't know if they've done that already or not. if they haven't already, ...I hope they do it quickly. it will certainly keep all of your bright ideas out of my country.  :-*
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Post by: tonymctones on May 04, 2010, 08:59:12 PM
Who the heck would want to use aerosol sprays when they are so destructive to the environment when there are alternative non destructive propellants available? Since I don't fart, I wouldn't know if they've done that already or not. if they haven't already, ...I hope they do it quickly. it will certainly keep all of your bright ideas out of my country.  :-*
i dont care about the aerosol cans to be honest I dont see the problem in using a spray bottle...

but banning leaf blowers b/c of emissions... ::) goodness gracious.

can you still mow your lawn with a lawn mower or do you have to use the old timey push blades?

what about weed eaters?
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Post by: chaos on May 04, 2010, 09:03:27 PM
I doubt that is the case. From what I've seen however, the majority of anti-illegal immigration sentiments are couched in racism and latinophobia (if that's a word). It's pretty disgusting really, if not ironic & hypocritical.  Most people don't care about illegals (as long as they're from Canada)... but the moment they appear from south of your border, these same people are up in arms claiming how American jobs are being taken away. It's really the Canadian illegals who take US jobs from Americans, and they fly right under the radar. The hispanic illegals take the jobs Americans don't want to do, and they keep the prices of your produce low.
Absolutely 100% bullshit.

And after reading the rest of your post, so is the rest of what you said. You are so far out of touch with the situation at hand you should just STFU and let the people that live it deal with it.
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Post by: 24KT on May 04, 2010, 09:59:32 PM
Absolutely 100% bullshit.

And after reading the rest of your post, so is the rest of what you said. You are so far out of touch with the situation at hand you should just STFU and let the people that live it deal with it.

Then let me re-phrase that to say:

In my experience, the majority of anti-illegal immigration sentiments that I have observed, were couched in racism and latinophobia (if that's a word).
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Post by: 24KT on May 04, 2010, 10:03:28 PM
i dont care about the aerosol cans to be honest I dont see the problem in using a spray bottle...

but banning leaf blowers b/c of emissions... ::) goodness gracious.

can you still mow your lawn with a lawn mower or do you have to use the old timey push blades?

what about weed eaters?

Yes gasoline powered lawn mowers are still allowed, as are electric ones. It has to do with the proportionality of the emissions given off by the leaf blowers. Leaf blowers give off more emissions per gallon of fuel used... or something like that. It has to do with the motors involved. Carcinogenic chemical pesticides are also banned as well.
Title: Re: Illegals call Black Guy racist for opposing illegal immigration. Video.
Post by: chaos on May 04, 2010, 10:06:37 PM
Then let me re-phrase that to say:

In my experience, the majority of anti-illegal immigration sentiments that I have observed, were couched in racism and latinophobia (if that's a word).
The "racism"  is peoples tolerance of this nuisance wearing thin, Americans are finally (hopefully) starting to put political correctness to the wayside and speak their minds and they are tired of being treated like shit, while illegal immigrants are allowed to take advantage of our system.
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Post by: 24KT on May 04, 2010, 10:12:56 PM
The "racism"  is peoples tolerance of this nuisance wearing thin, Americans are finally (hopefully) starting to put political correctness to the wayside and speak their minds and they are tired of being treated like shit, while illegal immigrants are allowed to take advantage of our system.

If that were the case, these people would be just as incensed if not more so, about illegal immigration from Canada. The fact is the hostility is directed towards hispanics. Peoples' tolerance wears thin because of their racism. The anger needs to be directed back towards it's true source... the SOBs who not only allow, but encourage the illegal immigration in the first place, not at the illegal immigrants themselves. And if you think your government in collusion with big Agro doesn't have a hand in encouraging & luring illegal immigration into your country, you are extremely naive.
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Post by: chaos on May 04, 2010, 10:18:02 PM
If that were the case, these people would be just as incensed if not more so, about illegal immigration from Canada. The fact is the hostility is directed towards hispanics. Peoples' tolerance wears thin because of their racism. The anger needs to be directed back towards it's true source... the SOBs who not only allow, but encourage the illegal immigration in the first place, not at the illegal immigrants themselves. And if you think your government in collusion with big Agro doesn't have a hand in encouraging & luring illegal immigration into your country, you are extremely naive.
How many illegal Canadians are in the US?  How many illegal mexicans are in the US?

Americans hat ain't got nothing on Americas dirty, leaking asshole. ;)
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Post by: 240 is Back on May 04, 2010, 11:22:31 PM
seriously, I don't know why yall even give any credence to what illegals say.

If I saw an illegal talking shit, I'd probably spit on him.  I suppose he could pull a weapon and I could ice his ass.  He could call the police to call ICE on his ass.   Or he couild STFU and deal with it, the price to pay for breaking my country's laws. 


Seriously, man the fvck up.  if every single legit american were to spit on, shove, or straight up assault an illegal each day, this problem would end pretty quickly.  33, if I drove past a row of illegals every day, I'd have a Super Soaker full of urine for them on a daily basis until they decided to choose another street. 
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Post by: Parker on May 05, 2010, 03:23:20 AM
seriously, I don't know why yall even give any credence to what illegals say.

If I saw an illegal talking shit, I'd probably spit on him.  I suppose he could pull a weapon and I could ice his ass.  He could call the police to call ICE on his ass.   Or he couild STFU and deal with it, the price to pay for breaking my country's laws. 


Seriously, man the fvck up.  if every single legit american were to spit on, shove, or straight up assault an illegal each day, this problem would end pretty quickly.  33, if I drove past a row of illegals every day, I'd have a Super Soaker full of urine for them on a daily basis until they decided to choose another street. 
WTF ARE you smokin 240?

It has gotten so out of hand that illegals think that they are "entitled" to be here. This is what happens when you don't nip things in the bud, like disciplining a child. If you don't teach or discipline your child when they are young, when they get older, they think that they entitled to talk to you or treat you in a disrespectful manner.
The reason why Mexico is the way it is, is because the citizens don't demand or force change, they leave. And the government knows this, they believe it's our problem---their citizens lleave, it's not their problem but ours...And they are happy because they don't want to deal with their problems and created jobs or try and challenge China for cheap labor jobs. I would rather have my Nikes made in Mexico than China. I would rather have my Iphone assembled in Mexico than China, and it's assesories...
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Post by: loco on May 05, 2010, 03:24:25 AM
Maybe the black man on the video is a racist, maybe he is not.  333386, haven't you been saying that Obama and his preacher are racist black men?

Maybe the Latinos on the video are illegal, maybe they are not.  Do they look illegal to you, 333386?  

Supporting this law doesn't mean you are a racist, just as much as opposing the law and being Latino doesn't mean that you are illegal.

And yes, the Latino fat woman in the video is a disgrace to humanity.  She needs to eat less and move more, but it's not like there aren't plenty of native born, white and black American citizens who are just as fat, if not fatter.
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Post by: Soul Crusher on May 05, 2010, 04:26:37 AM
Why are the signs in spanish?
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Post by: Hugo Chavez on May 05, 2010, 04:35:10 AM
Why are the signs in spanish?
maybe because they knew they would be confronting illegals?  Or maybe just to make a bigger point, that these people don't even speak english.  I dunno...
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Post by: Soul Crusher on May 05, 2010, 04:38:13 AM
I like the bull horn that guy had. 

As for the actual situation, illegal immigration has hurt black people more than any other group in this coutry and I don't understamd why they are so silent on this.
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Post by: 24KT on May 05, 2010, 04:50:56 AM
I like the bull horn that guy had. 

As for the actual situation, illegal immigration has hurt black people more than any other group in this coutry and I don't understamd why they are so silent on this.

WTF are you talking about? do you really think a Black man is going to pick lettuce in the blazing sun, or picking worms for peanuts 16hrs a day? A Black man would rather sit at home on welfare than do that, ...and quite frankly, ...I'd do the same thing.
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Post by: the_steevo_uk on May 05, 2010, 04:54:39 AM
you hear that at the end...? the dude shouting power to the people, possibly the biggest oxymoron I've ever heard and indicative of what illegal immigration is all about...illegals wants immediate rights, and yes you heard it...power. Great they dont even have a vote. You know what really pisses me off about this whole thing, my dad immigrated to britain in 1973, waited best part of twenty years for citizenship, he worked his arse off, paid his taxes, yet people flood through the borders of the USA and the UK everyday and expect the same thing. Makes me sick, sick to my core, a mockery of everything it is to attain civic status.

Of course then there's the ultimate cliche, if you oppose illegal immigration you're instantly a racist...brilliant what a trump card...because I believe in law and order I'm a racist...pathetic.
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Post by: Soul Crusher on May 05, 2010, 04:54:46 AM
Do you really think the millions of illegals in ny ny mass ct pa anf other north eastern states do that jag? 

Most are working on construction jobs that used to be decent paying until they came in and completely undermined the wage structure.  Companies of course were all too happy to go along to increase their bottom line and have workers to scared ever say anything.

You are so clueless on this issue its not even funny. 
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Post by: Hugo Chavez on May 05, 2010, 05:11:23 AM
I like the bull horn that guy had.  

As for the actual situation, illegal immigration has hurt black people more than any other group in this country and I don't understand why they are so silent on this.
These days seem to be changing a bit but I do remember 10 years back or so that blacks were a bit more vocal about it, then there were some issues with them doing even that.

I also remember quite well that many hispanic Americans were very against illegals.  Stories I read by hispanics back then were much in line with Toxic being upset because he came here legally and they didn't.  They were either born here or came here legally and did not like the system giving away what they were born into or worked hard to get.  What they were not doing was talking about shooting illegals and laying mine fields along the border or talking about hate like Toxic and some others do.  They were for securing the border and enforcing legal immigration.  This is where I also stand.

I don't think statements that radicalize the issue like Toxic makes help the cause one bit.  Lou Dobbs didn't need it and he brought many people to the issue.  There's nothing to hate or want to kill with these people.  They have people willing to pay them here.  They have politicians willing to look the other way for both business and other reasons of political benefit.  It's not so much their fault as it is faults with our own people and politicians we need to address.  I've talked about this at length before but usually get ignored.  The one thing I can say for absolutely sure is that I'm not a noob to the issue.  This is something I've been following closely for a very fucking long time.
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Post by: Soul Crusher on May 05, 2010, 05:15:01 AM
The average idiot taxpayer now is subsidizing this whole mess.
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Post by: Hugo Chavez on May 05, 2010, 05:18:28 AM
The average idiot taxpayer now is subsidizing this whole mess.
well, I just hope you can see that to really address this problem, we have a lot more to do than just blame illegals.
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Post by: Soul Crusher on May 05, 2010, 05:22:45 AM
I dont blame the illegals themselves.  I blame the disgusting, complicit, treasonous government since they not only don't enforce the law on the border crossings and them being here, but dont crack down on the businesses hiring these people either. 

 
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Post by: The Showstoppa on May 05, 2010, 05:25:02 AM
I dont blame the illegals themselves.  I blame the disgusting, complicit, treasonous government since they not only don't enforce the law on the border crossings and them being here, but dont crack down on the businesses hiring these people either. 

 

I agree.  If the govt wants to truly stop the flow.....enforce laws and fine the shit out of companies and individuals who employ them.  If the work dried up, they would quit coming.

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Post by: Hugo Chavez on May 05, 2010, 05:57:49 AM
I agree.  If the govt wants to truly stop the flow.....enforce laws and fine the shit out of companies and individuals who employ them.  If the work dried up, they would quit coming.


exactly!!!  We really need to fix our problems to fix the illegal problem.  It's not really their fault where we allow the demand. 

I've been at this cause for a long time so I really don't appreciate noobs coming in with radical shit like shooting them and putting land mine fields in TX, NM, AZ and CA.  The last thing we need is to let people radicalize solutions when the real solutions are clear and doable.  all we really have to do is cut the bs and focus on the real cause.  Instead you really have a lot of distractions within this issue that only serve to allow those really enabling illegals to keep on doing so.
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Post by: 240 is Back on May 05, 2010, 06:27:45 AM
33, you ignored my Q.

why do you tolerate a line of ilegals on your road?  Those here in south FL keep their heads low, and are the quiestest humble bunch - just going to work, back to their trailer with a 6 pack, and never starting shit.

If some illegal was jocking himself at me, I'd spit on him without hesitation.  I suggest you start doing the same.  If he grabs his junk at you in walmart, you shove him into a stack of paintcans.  Man the fvck up already.  Stop tolerating this kinda BS dude.
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Post by: BM OUT on May 05, 2010, 06:29:23 AM
WTF are you talking about? do you really think a Black man is going to pick lettuce in the blazing sun, or picking worms for peanuts 16hrs a day? A Black man would rather sit at home on welfare than do that, ...and quite frankly, ...I'd do the same thing.

One of the most racist statements ever posted on this forum.The idea that YOU think blacks are lazy[apparently like you]is very telling.Typical lib,you accuse others of racism,but deep down your nothing but a full fledged racist.
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Post by: Soul Crusher on May 05, 2010, 06:33:03 AM
33, you ignored my Q.

why do you tolerate a line of ilegals on your road?  Those here in south FL keep their heads low, and are the quiestest humble bunch - just going to work, back to their trailer with a 6 pack, and never starting shit.

If some illegal was jocking himself at me, I'd spit on him without hesitation.  I suggest you start doing the same.  If he grabs his junk at you in walmart, you shove him into a stack of paintcans.  Man the fvck up already.  Stop tolerating this kinda BS dude.

Yeah, that will work in NYC  ::)  ::)
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Post by: loco on May 05, 2010, 06:35:30 AM
Why are the signs in spanish?

You can be an American citizen and not speak a word of English.  Not speaking English is not a crime in the US, and in many cases not even a requirement for US citizenship.  Unlike many other nations, the US has never had an official language.

I think that all long term US residents, citizens and non-citizens alike, should learn English.  My point is that just because somebody is Latino and doesn't speak English doesn't mean that he/she is illegal.
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Post by: Hugo Chavez on May 05, 2010, 06:48:40 AM
You can be an American citizen and not speak a word of English.  Not speaking English is not a crime in the US, and in many cases not even a requirement for US citizenship.  Unlike many other nations, the US has never had an official language.

I think that all long term US residents, citizens and non-citizens alike, should learn English.  My point is that just because somebody is Latino and doesn't speak English doesn't mean that he/she is illegal.
One beef is with the corporations.  They, thinking only of themselves and the bottom line really led the problem.  Nobody here really noticed until we started walking up to the ATM, calling a business, going through a drive through, reading signs all of a sudden switched to the FIRST OPTIONS being Spanish.  I also got pissed at the fact that all of a sudden I had to select an English option in an English speaking country.  Now you loco know I'm not bigoted.  I have nothing against anyone except Stinky Paki Toxic and even that's just to make a point.  I really don't have anything againt him beyond making a point.  Anyway, the corporate instituted Spanish thing caused a backlash.  Especially considering so many jobs started popping up only available to those who speak both Spanish and English. 

I think we would be better off learning Spanish but overnight forcing it on us like we didn't have a choice was a little fucked up and I'm sure added to existing animosity.
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Post by: Soul Crusher on May 05, 2010, 07:42:26 AM
This guy speaks plain common sense. 

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Post by: loco on May 05, 2010, 07:47:53 AM
One beef is with the corporations.  They, thinking only of themselves and the bottom line really led the problem.  Nobody here really noticed until we started walking up to the ATM, calling a business, going through a drive through, reading signs all of a sudden switched to the FIRST OPTIONS being Spanish.  I also got pissed at the fact that all of a sudden I had to select an English option in an English speaking country.  Now you loco know I'm not bigoted.  I have nothing against anyone except Stinky Paki Toxic and even that's just to make a point.  I really don't have anything againt him beyond making a point.  Anyway, the corporate instituted Spanish thing caused a backlash.  Especially considering so many jobs started popping up only available to those who speak both Spanish and English.  

I think we would be better off learning Spanish but overnight forcing it on us like we didn't have a choice was a little fucked up and I'm sure added to existing animosity.

I agree!  Americans have corporations and the US government to blame for this problem, but many choose to take it out on Latinos.  Corporations hire illegals, and sometimes even take illegals across the border into the US, while the government turns a blind eye to the situation, all the while giving illegals benefits and incentives to stay in the US and to not learn English.

I know you are not bigoted.  I don't have a problem with Toxi as a person, but he seems full of hatred and he doesn't understand that if good old red necks are given the green light to shoot illegals on site, they'll start shooting anything that looks brown, including Toxi and Toxi's family.

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Post by: Fury on May 05, 2010, 07:52:40 AM
I agree!  Americans have corporations and the US government to blame for this problem, but many choose to take it out on Latinos.  Corporations hire illegals, and sometimes even take illegals across the border into the US, while the government turns a blind eye to the situation, all the while giving illegals benefits and intensives to stay in the US and to not learn English.

I know you are not bigoted.  I don't have a problem with Toxi as a person, but he seems full of hatred and he doesn't understand that if good old red necks are given the green light to shoot illegals on site, they'll start shooting anything that looks brown, including Toxi and Toxi's family.



That's as bigoted a statement as anything they'll say.
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Post by: Hugo Chavez on May 05, 2010, 09:41:48 AM
I agree!  Americans have corporations and the US government to blame for this problem, but many choose to take it out on Latinos.  Corporations hire illegals, and sometimes even take illegals across the border into the US, while the government turns a blind eye to the situation, all the while giving illegals benefits and intensives to stay in the US and to not learn English.

I know you are not bigoted.  I don't have a problem with Toxi as a person, but he seems full of hatred and he doesn't understand that if good old red necks are given the green light to shoot illegals on site, they'll start shooting anything that looks brown, including Toxi and Toxi's family.


great post, exactly what I was thinking.
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Post by: Hugo Chavez on May 05, 2010, 09:45:37 AM
This guy speaks plain common sense. 


yes, that's right in line with the stories I read back some 10 years ago or so....
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Post by: tonymctones on May 05, 2010, 10:34:08 AM
I agree!  Americans have corporations and the US government to blame for this problem, but many choose to take it out on Latinos.  Corporations hire illegals, and sometimes even take illegals across the border into the US, while the government turns a blind eye to the situation, all the while giving illegals benefits and incentives to stay in the US and to not learn English.

I know you are not bigoted.  I don't have a problem with Toxi as a person, but he seems full of hatred and he doesn't understand that if good old red necks are given the green light to shoot illegals on site, they'll start shooting anything that looks brown, including Toxi and Toxi's family.
why do you keep making this a race/ethinicity thing?

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE...its a legal issue...nobody is saying that latinos shouldnt be allowed in this country...

your confusing illegals with latinos... ::)
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Post by: Hugo Chavez on May 05, 2010, 12:33:30 PM
why do you keep making this a race/ethinicity thing?

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE...its a legal issue...nobody is saying that latinos shouldnt be allowed in this country...

your confusing illegals with latinos... ::)
with all do respect, you totally missed the point of loco's post.  He wasn't making it a race issue.  Maybe you got that from the background I provided via my issues with Toxic.  Don't take it out on Loco, it's not his deal on that. 

Loco has jumped on people over race issues in the past but every time I've seen him do so was legit.  He's called out people for obvious latino/hispanic/South American bias when it was called for only!!!

I think you have to read my post that loco was replying to in order to see what he was saying.  If anything you should be yelling at me, not him.
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Post by: 24KT on May 05, 2010, 06:01:47 PM
These days seem to be changing a bit but I do remember 10 years back or so that blacks were a bit more vocal about it, then there were some issues with them doing even that.

I also remember quite well that many hispanic Americans were very against illegals.  Stories I read by hispanics back then were much in line with Toxic being upset because he came here legally and they didn't.  They were either born here or came here legally and did not like the system giving away what they were born into or worked hard to get.  What they were not doing was talking about shooting illegals and laying mine fields along the border or talking about hate like Toxic and some others do.  They were for securing the border and enforcing legal immigration.  This is where I also stand.

I don't think statements that radicalize the issue like Toxic makes help the cause one bit.  Lou Dobbs didn't need it and he brought many people to the issue.  There's nothing to hate or want to kill with these people.  They have people willing to pay them here.  They have politicians willing to look the other way for both business and other reasons of political benefit.  It's not so much their fault as it is faults with our own people and politicians we need to address.  I've talked about this at length before but usually get ignored.  The one thing I can say for absolutely sure is that I'm not a noob to the issue.  This is something I've been following closely for a very fucking long time.

BRAVO!!!

QFT!
Title: Re: Illegals call Black Guy racist for opposing illegal immigration. Video.
Post by: 24KT on May 05, 2010, 06:03:55 PM
exactly!!!  We really need to fix our problems to fix the illegal problem.  It's not really their fault where we allow the demand. 

I've been at this cause for a long time so I really don't appreciate noobs coming in with radical shit like shooting them and putting land mine fields in TX, NM, AZ and CA.  The last thing we need is to let people radicalize solutions when the real solutions are clear and doable.  all we really have to do is cut the bs and focus on the real cause.  Instead you really have a lot of distractions within this issue that only serve to allow those really enabling illegals to keep on doing so.

Dang Hugo, ...you're really on a roll today! QFT!  :D
Title: Re: Illegals call Black Guy racist for opposing illegal immigration. Video.
Post by: 24KT on May 05, 2010, 06:06:44 PM
One of the most racist statements ever posted on this forum.The idea that YOU think blacks are lazy[apparently like you]is very telling.Typical lib,you accuse others of racism,but deep down your nothing but a full fledged racist.

it has nothing to do with laziness. When welfare pays more than a job, people are going to opt for the welfare.
Fuck the nobility of taking pride in working. it's about access to cash... plain & simple! Get real.
Title: Re: Illegals call Black Guy racist for opposing illegal immigration. Video.
Post by: 24KT on May 05, 2010, 06:12:57 PM
You can be an American citizen and not speak a word of English.  Not speaking English is not a crime in the US, and in many cases not even a requirement for US citizenship.  Unlike many other nations, the US has never had an official language.

I think that all long term US residents, citizens and non-citizens alike, should learn English.  My point is that just because somebody is Latino and doesn't speak English doesn't mean that he/she is illegal.

Shhhh... you're going to confuse him with facts. Heaven forbid someone brings rationality or common sense to this discussion, ...it might diffuse all his hate and remove one of the load bearing pillars of his latinophobia..
Title: Re: Illegals call Black Guy racist for opposing illegal immigration. Video.
Post by: tonymctones on May 05, 2010, 06:32:50 PM
it has nothing to do with laziness. When welfare pays more than a job, people are going to opt for the welfare.
Fuck the nobility of taking pride in working. it's about access to cash... plain & simple! Get real.
not to everybody its not, I myself would rather work a shit job than sit on my ass and have others pay for me...its your type of thinking thats wrong with this world.
Title: Re: Illegals call Black Guy racist for opposing illegal immigration. Video.
Post by: 24KT on May 05, 2010, 06:36:47 PM
not to everybody its not, I myself would rather work a shit job than sit on my ass and have others pay for me...its your type of thinking thats wrong with this world.

Well if an when it came down to it, and both of us were down on our luck, and there was a job picking worms at dawn and working 16 hrs a day that paid less than welfare... then you can pick worms and be proud... and I will  take the welfare, and have more money to feed myself and pay rent than you will have.

Thanks for the rent check dude!  :D
Title: Re: Illegals call Black Guy racist for opposing illegal immigration. Video.
Post by: tonymctones on May 05, 2010, 06:44:40 PM
Well if an when it came down to it, and both of us were down on our luck, and there was a job picking worms at dawn and working 16 hrs a day that paid less than welfare... then you can pick worms and be proud... and I will  take the welfare, and have more money to feed myself and pay rent than you will have.

Thanks for the rent check dude!  :D
you could always strip and make more money than welfare...that is if its not below your dignity but seeing as how youre willing to sit on your ass while others pay for you Id say youre probably good  ;)
Title: Re: Illegals call Black Guy racist for opposing illegal immigration. Video.
Post by: 24KT on May 05, 2010, 06:54:50 PM
you could always strip and make more money than welfare...that is if its not below your dignity but seeing as how youre willing to sit on your ass while others pay for you Id say youre probably good  ;)

it's not about dignity it is about will & desire. that's something I wouldn't do... not that I'm willing to look down on those who do, ...it's simply a choice I would not make, ...just like escorting, bank robbing, drug dealing etc., there are things we'd be willing to do... and things we would not be willing to do, and if I had the choice to make more from welfare than from picking worms at dawn... I'd opt for the welfare.
Title: Re: Illegals call Black Guy racist for opposing illegal immigration. Video.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 05, 2010, 06:59:11 PM
Which is why we need to get rid of welfare altogether for all but the most physically helpless. 
Title: Re: Illegals call Black Guy racist for opposing illegal immigration. Video.
Post by: tonymctones on May 05, 2010, 07:02:18 PM
it's not about dignity it is about will & desire. that's something I wouldn't do... not that I'm willing to look down on those who do, ...it's simply a choice I would not make, ...just like escorting, bank robbing, drug dealing etc., there are things we'd be willing to do... and things we would not be willing to do, and if I had the choice to make more from welfare than from picking worms at dawn... I'd opt for the welfare.
if you had the choice between welfare and stripping and you would make more from stripping which would you do and why?
Title: Re: Illegals call Black Guy racist for opposing illegal immigration. Video.
Post by: 24KT on May 05, 2010, 07:04:41 PM
Which is why we need to get rid of welfare altogether for all but the most physically helpless. 

That's like saying we should abolish the police force because some cops are corrupt.

What you need is to remove is not welfare, but the disincentive to work.

Title: Re: Illegals call Black Guy racist for opposing illegal immigration. Video.
Post by: 24KT on May 05, 2010, 07:07:46 PM
if you had the choice between welfare and stripping and you would make more from stripping which would you do and why?

That's one of the stpidest questions you've ever asked me... and you asked me many many stupid questions in the past.
Title: Re: Illegals call Black Guy racist for opposing illegal immigration. Video.
Post by: tonymctones on May 05, 2010, 07:16:29 PM
That's one of the stpidest questions you've ever asked me... and you asked me many many stupid questions in the past.
LOL given but Id still like an answer
Title: Re: Illegals call Black Guy racist for opposing illegal immigration. Video.
Post by: loco on May 06, 2010, 06:27:23 AM
Well if an when it came down to it, and both of us were down on our luck, and there was a job picking worms at dawn and working 16 hrs a day that paid less than welfare... then you can pick worms and be proud... and I will  take the welfare, and have more money to feed myself and pay rent than you will have.

Thanks for the rent check dude!  :D

Working is good for our health, both physical and mental.  You not working is the reason why you haven't aged well at all, and also why many of your posts here make your mental health questionable:

I FVCKING HATE DELUSIONAL EVANGELICALS  >:(

You are fvcking certifiable in your delusion & denial.
It's the goddamn evangelicals who make it a political issue. Get real!!!

I will welcome the day that religion is forced underground!

Any evangelical I off, is gonna be one who trys imposing themself on me. There's a big difference.

It's like someone on here once said "I'll shoot the fvckers if I have to."