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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Training Q&A => Training Logs and Info => Topic started by: The True Adonis on May 06, 2010, 04:50:57 PM
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2600 calories for this month.
Kashi High Protein cereal
Whole Milk
Dairy Queen Limited Edition Oreos
Strawberries with Nutella
Calories-598
Bobby Flay`s Louisiana Remoulade Hamburger
Dairy Queen Limited Edition Oreos
Calories-855
Oats and Fiber Granola Bar
Calories-150
Kashi Honey Almond Flax Cereal
Whole Milk
Calories-340
Barbecue Jalapeño Beefsteak Burger
Calories- 537
Chocolate and Oats Fiber Bar
Calories- 140
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Hmmmmm......interesting, are you going to log your workouts also?
Might as well since you lost your log book. :)
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Hmmmmm......interesting, are you going to log your workouts also?
Might as well since you lost your log book. :)
I may, if anyone is interested that is. I do some creative things in the gym every now and then.
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I'm subscribing.
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I may, if anyone is interested that is. I do some creative things in the gym every now and then.
Like tire flipping? :D
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1 Serving Kashi Honey Almond Flax Cereal
1 Cup Whole Milk
1 Serving (2 cookies) Dairy Queen Limited Edition Oreos
1 Chocolate and Oatmeal Fiber Bar
Calories-630
Bobby Flay`s Louisiana Remoulade Hamburger
Calories- 702
1 serving (2 cookies) Dairy Queen Limited Edition Oreos
Calories-140
Manzo Salsa del Castello and Verdue with Cous Cous and Aged Balsalmic Vinegar
Calories-667
Chocolate and Oats Fiber Bar
Calories- 140
1/2 Cup (1 serving) Chocolate Cookie Dough Ice Cream
Calories-160
Strawberries with Nutella
Calories-168
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Any chance you could put down how much you consume of each item, Adonis?
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Any chance you could put down how much you consume of each item, Adonis?
Sure. Usually its the serving size or so if its a packaged food. If its a food I make, such as the Hamburgers, its going to vary with each thing I put on so I will just list the entire Burger rather than go ingredient by ingredient.
But for packaged food and the like I will surely include amounts.
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Cheers, dude.
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1 Serving Kashi Honey Almond Flax Cereal
1 Cup Whole Milk
1 Serving (2 cookies) Dairy Queen Limited Edition Oreos
1 Chocolate and Oatmeal Fiber Bar
Calories-630
4 Whole Egg Onion and Vegetable Frittata
2 Servings Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough Ice Cream
Calories-660
Chocolate and Oatmeal Fiber Bar
Calories-140
1 Serving Kashi Honey Almond Flax Cereal
6 oz Whole Milk (finished gallon)
1 Homemade Lemon Yogurt
Calories-463
Adonis Balsamic Tomato, Onion and Tuna
Strawberries and Nutella
Calories-520
Servings Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough Ice Cream
Calories-160
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I'm subscribing.
x2 Best thread ever!! 8)
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not much protein being taken in it seems.
can you break down protein intake too ? in grams? also fats and carbs would be nice.
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not much protein being taken in it seems.
can you break down protein intake too ? in grams? also fats and carbs would be nice.
Sure thing. I will do a few days with full Vitamin Nutrient and Macro Breakdown. It changes every day of course but a sampling every now and then may be useful.
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great. i wish you well.
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not much protein being taken in it seems.
can you break down protein intake too ? in grams? also fats and carbs would be nice.
Just looking at yesterday, I would say about 100-120 grams of protein.
This number will always vary as well.
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Just looking at yesterday, I would say about 100-120 grams of protein.
This number will always vary as well.
doesn't look like that to me. not complete protein sources anyway.
do you include all protein sources on labels, complete or not ?
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doesn't look like that to me. not complete protein sources anyway.
do you include all protein sources on labels, complete or not ?
Yeep. I count all Protein. The "incomplete" protein or "complementary protein" thing is a myth/misnomer and is completely discredited.
The very person who coined the phrase/theory has reversed on this as well as anyone who has backed it.
You may find this Interesting:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_combining
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Yeep. I count all Protein. The "incomplete" protein or "complementary protein" thing is a myth/misnomer and is completely discredited.
The very person who coined the phrase/theory has reversed on this as well as anyone who has backed it.
You may find this Interesting:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_combining
very interesting. i have not hear that the complete protein was a myth until now.
i will enjoy educating myself on this topic.
thank you for bringing it to my attention.
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very interesting. i have not hear that the complete protein was a myth until now.
i will enjoy educating myself on this topic.
thank you for bringing it to my attention.
The myth is great to keep alive if you are in the protein selling business. ;)
I always find it amusing how the magazine and supplement companies pull this nonsense. This was discredited a long time ago, even by the originator of the theory, yet it still persists.
That trickles down to gym-goers and then it becomes "bro-science" or simply, pseudoscience.
It doesn`t stop there at all. There are a ton of myths that circulate in the general public as well and most people accept as being credible even when the evidence is contradictory or proves the opposite of what is claimed .
Hopefully I will get into some of this as people ask more questions.
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The myth is great to keep alive if you are in the protein selling business. ;)
I always find it amusing how the magazine and supplement companies pull this nonsense. This was discredited a long time ago, even by the originator of the theory, yet it still persists.
That trickles down to gym-goers and then it becomes "bro-science" or simply, pseudoscience.
It doesn`t stop there at all. There are a ton of myths that circulate in the general public as well and most people accept as being credible even when the evidence is totally otherwise.
Hopefully I will get into some of this as people ask more questions.
i pride myself on ignoring these broscience myths, and dealing with facts, but this is one i have believed for quite some time.
i have already read a few studies and i am surprised by the results.
the complete/incomplete protein recommendations do indeed appear to be a myth afterall :o
saying that i wonder why taking in leucine alone pre/post workout does not have the same effect as a whole protein source.
every answer raises more questions it seems :-\
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The myth is great to keep alive if you are in the protein selling business. ;)
I always find it amusing how the magazine and supplement companies pull this nonsense. This was discredited a long time ago, even by the originator of the theory, yet it still persists.
That trickles down to gym-goers and then it becomes "bro-science" or simply, pseudoscience.
It doesn`t stop there at all. There are a ton of myths that circulate in the general public as well and most people accept as being credible even when the evidence is contradictory or proves the opposite of what is claimed .
Hopefully I will get into some of this as people ask more questions.
Interesting.
What do you think about eating high glycemic index carbs in the PWO meal?
Do you think you can be ripped eating high glycemic index carbs all day, as long as you create a caloric deficit?
Thanks
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The only things on that menu that interest me are the onions, tuna, and Kashi cereal. Kashi makes the best cold cereal on the market. Love the stuff. Often eaten it 3 times a day.
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1 Serving Kashi Honey Almond Flax Cereal
1 serving Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough Ice Cream
1 Peanut Butter and Oats Fiber Bar
2 slices Smoked Provolone cheese
Calories- 650
Tyler Florence Ultimate Baked Beans
Strawberries with Nutella
Peanut Butter and Oats Fiber Bar
Calories-607
2 servings Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough Ice Cream
Calories-320
Adonis Balsamic Tomato, Onion and Tuna
Calories-550
Peanut Butter and Oat Fiber Bar
Calories-150
Strawberries and Nutella
Calories- 177
Chocolate Vanilla Brownie Ice Cream
Calories-150
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complete protein is not a myth
try taking in 300 grams of protein everyday, but make it all coming from amino acids NOT in the essential amino acids list.
you will find it impossible to grow.
protein combination does work just fine, but are you sure your getting the right amount of the right amino's to make the incomplete protein useable??
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complete protein is not a myth
try taking in 300 grams of protein everyday, but make it all coming from amino acids NOT in the essential amino acids list.
you will find it impossible to grow.
protein combination does work just fine, but are you sure your getting the right amount of the right amino's to make the incomplete protein useable??
take a read of the references on the wiki page candy, its interesting reading.
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The only things on that menu that interest me are the onions, tuna, and Kashi cereal. Kashi makes the best cold cereal on the market. Love the stuff. Often eaten it 3 times a day.
yea it really is good
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Interesting thread, I'll stick around.
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1 Serving Kashi Honey Almond Flax Cereal
1 serving Chocolate Vanilla Brownie Ice Cream
1 Peanut Butter and Oats Fiber Bar
2 slices Smoked Provolone cheese
Calories-640
3 Large Slices Papa John`s The Works Pizza
Calories-990
1 Large Slice Papa John`s The Works Pizza
Calories- 330
Kashi Toasted Berry Crunch Cereal
1 cup of Milk
Calories-340
Strawberries with Nutella
Calories- 162
Chocolate Vanilla Brownie Ice Cream- 1 serving
Calories-150
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I did the same for 2009, logging everything I ate in a thread.
We sure need more examples of non-masochistic diets.
Great thread, should be a sticky. Would be great if we could get some photos of the foods you cook yourself.
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Would either of you wavelength/Adonis be willing to post a pic from now and progress pics every few months in order for people to see what effect your diet is really having on your body? If either of you are interested PM me and I can start a thread on The Positive Board to keep the trolling bullshit out and maintain a serious thread.
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i pride myself on ignoring these broscience myths, and dealing with facts, but this is one i have believed for quite some time.
i have already read a few studies and i am surprised by the results.
the complete/incomplete protein recommendations do indeed appear to be a myth afterall :o
saying that i wonder why taking in leucine alone pre/post workout does not have the same effect as a whole protein source.
every answer raises more questions it seems :-\
let me make this simple for you and adonis... in order to build muscle, eat muscle.. there are eleven essential aamino acids that can not be created by the human body.. you must consume aquequate amounts of these...
its is not about grams of protein, but more specifically about grams of protein containing all eleven amino acids.
what do you think would happen if you consumed 500 grams of protein everyday but never consumed any branch chain amino acids ? (this diet is very highly unlikely to ever occur but what would happen if it did)
the amount of muscle tissue in your body would start to slowly decline, regardless of any amount of other calories, drugs, or training
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Adonis, how much protein do you eat per day?
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let me make this simple for you and adonis... in order to build muscle, eat muscle.. there are eleven essential aamino acids that can not be created by the human body.. you must consume aquequate amounts of these...
its is not about grams of protein, but more specifically about grams of protein containing all eleven amino acids.
what do you think would happen if you consumed 500 grams of protein everyday but never consumed any branch chain amino acids ? (this diet is very highly unlikely to ever occur but what would happen if it did)
the amount of muscle tissue in your body would start to slowly decline, regardless of any amount of other calories, drugs, or training
Totally irrelevant if you eat like a normal human being. This is as silly as suggesting one eat nothing but cardboard, lightbulbs or jolly ranchers and nothing else.
By default you will easily get a complete amino profile, especially when your food is varied and you are shooting for a minimum of about .5 grams of protein per lb of bodyweight a day.
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Adonis, how much protein do you eat per day?
It varies everyday, but I get at least .5 grams per lb of bodyweight on average. Most of the time I am much higher than that just by default of what I eat.
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Totally irrelevant if you eat like a normal human being. This is as silly as suggesting one eat nothing but cardboard, lightbulbs or jolly ranchers and nothing else.
By default you will easily get a complete amino profile, especially when your food is varied and you are shooting for a minimum of about .5 grams of protein per lb of bodyweight a day.
you said the idea of protein combination is a myth. it is not.
the idea that the general public needs to pay special attention to their diets in order to get enough essential amino acids is a myth.
the idea that a bodybuilder trying to gain muscle without eating foods that contain all of the essential amino acids would then have to make sure to be combining enough of the right types of foods in order to get enough of the key amino's to grow.... is not a myth.
sure, the amount is not that high.. but to get 1 gram per lb lean body weight of complete protein without eating complete protein is going to take some effort.
bodybuilders or those looking for muscle are mmuch better off eating complete protien sources.. mainly meat.
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It varies everyday, but I get at least .5 grams per lb of bodyweight on average. Most of the time I am much higher than that just by default of what I eat.
Do you ever eat above 1 gram per lb of bodyweight? Don't you think eating .5 grams per lb some days is too little?
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Do you ever eat above 1 gram per lb of bodyweight? Don't you think eating .5 grams per lb some days is too little?
Yep, sometimes I will eat over that amount.
I do not believe .5 grams per lb is low for me by any means as I only lift weights 4-5 days a week and do not exert myself in any way other than that.
Also, studies have shown that seasoned bodybuilders/Weightlifters may need LESS protein as several studies have shown that strength training, consistent with the anabolic stimulus for protein synthesis it provides, actually increases the efficiency of use of protein, which reduces dietary protein requirements.
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Yep, sometimes I will eat over that amount.
I do not believe .5 grams per lb is low for me by any means as I only lift weights 4-5 days a week and do not exert myself in any way other than that.
Also, studies have shown that seasoned bodybuilders/Weightlifters may need LESS protein as several studies have shown that strength training, consistent with the anabolic stimulus for protein synthesis it provides, actually increases the efficiency of use of protein, which reduces dietary protein requirements.
That's very interesting information from those studies, I never made gains while eating less than 1 gram per lb though. I tried it in the past and it didn't work.
I noticed you don't make sure you eat an "x" amount of protein per day and that your intake varies a lot, why is this?
Probably the days you eat .5 grams per lb or so are balanced out with the days you eat more than 1 gram per lb right?
Its very interesting to see you are able to stay ripped while eating anything you want. I never tried it, but I can see it being possible as overall calorie intake is what determines fat loss/gain or maintaining.
Do you think its possible to remain ripped and gain muscle at the same time? I think its not since caloric intake will vary too much.
Thanks.
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By the way TA, I tried your Adonis tomato and tuna salad tonight. Very, very good.
I followed your recipe, with a few key notable changes to suit my tastes.
To the dressing, I added half a teaspoon each of cumin, chili powder, and cayenne powder to give the dressing some heat. I find the heat masked the can tuna smell nicely.
I was really hungry, so I decided to ditch the cous cous this time around, because it looked really good and I wanted to eat it right away.
I also added a teaspoon of dijon mustard to the dressing, to act as an emulsifier.
Finally, I added a cucumber to the mix.
Overall, a very tasty meal and one I won't hesitate to repeat.
Very Good my friend!
I eat it all the time without Cous Cous or Pasta. I also play around with it a bit, infusing different herbs with the oil.
It is a completely enjoyable way to eat Tuna and so quick to throw together.
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Would either of you wavelength/Adonis be willing to post a pic from now and progress pics every few months in order for people to see what effect your diet is really having on your body? If either of you are interested PM me and I can start a thread on The Positive Board to keep the trolling bullshit out and maintain a serious thread.
I kind of already did that last year and it took quite some time to maintain that thread. Don't have the time right now but it would be awesome if TA did it.
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Kashi Toasted Berry Crunch Cereal
1 cup of Milk
Italian Boule Bread
Calories-470
Tyler Florence Ultimate Baked Beans
1 Serving Vanilla and Chocolate Brownie Ice Cream
Calories-430
Adonis Tuna and Tomato Basil
Calories-670
Kashi Toasted Berry Crunch Cereal
1 cup of Milk
Calories-340
Cinnamon and Sugar Graham Crackers
Calories-130
Mcdonalds Cheeseburger
Half of a Large Fries (Jezebelle ate the other half :) )
Calories- 560
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Kashi Toasted Berry Crunch Cereal
1 cup of Milk
Italian Boule Bread
Calories-470
Tyler Florence Ultimate Baked Beans
1 Serving Vanilla and Chocolate Brownie Ice Cream
Calories-430
those are banging baked beans
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I love how you eat Ice Cream so early in the day, that is of course if your diet log is in chronological order. I know that anytime is a good time for ice cream, but having a bowl of it at 6 am is a little too early.
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2 servings Kashi Toasted Berry Crunch Cereal
2 cups of Whole Milk
Calories-680
1 serving Chocolate vanilla Brownie Ice Cream
Calories-150
1 Slice Smoked Provolone Cheese
Calories-70
2 Burger King Rodeo Cheeseburgers
Calories-760
3 Fudge Covered Mint Oreos (1 serving)
Calories-170
Chocolate Muscle Milk
Calories-240
3 Fudge Covered Mint Oreos (1 serving)
Calories-170
Tomato Crostinis with Six Tuscan cheeses
Calories-340
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1 serving Kashi High Protein Cereal
1 cup whole milk
3 Fudge Covered Mint Oreos (1 serving)
Calories-460
Olive Oil, herb and Filone Tomato Costinis with Six Tuscan Cheeses
3 Fudge Covered Mint Oreos (1 serving)
Calories-727
1 serving Kashi High Protein Cereal
1 cup whole milk
3 Fudge Covered Mint Oreos (1 serving)
Calories-460
1 Greek Yogurt Strawberry
Calories-130
Tomato and Six Tuscan Cheese Pizza
Calories-440
1 serving Chocolate vanilla Brownie Ice Cream
Calories-150
Cinnamon and Sugar Graham Crackers with Nutella
Calories-230
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1 serving Kashi High Protein Cereal
1 cup whole milk
1 Greek Yogurt Vanilla
Calories-400
Basil Olive Oil infused, herb and Filone Tomato Pizza with Six Tuscan Cheeses
Calories-560
1 serving (2 cookies) Mint Oreos
2 Burger King Rodeo Cheeseburgers
Calories-900
Tomato and Six Tuscan Cheese Pizza
1 serving (2 cookies) Mint Oreos
Calories-580
Strawberries with Nutella
Calories-168
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1 serving Kashi High Protein Cereal
1 Cup Whole Milk
1 serving (2 cookies) Mint Oreos
Calories-430
1 serving (2 cookies) Mint Oreos
Calories-140
Greek Yogurt Strawberry
Calories-130
Musclemilk Vanilla Creme
Calories-220
Tomato and Six Tuscan Cheese Pizza
1 serving (2 cookies) Mint Oreos
Calories-610
1 Cup Whole Milk
Kashi High Protein Cereal
Calories-290
2 Burger King Rodeo Cheeseburgers
Calories-760
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1 Cup Whole Milk
1 serving (2 cookies) Mint Oreos
Calories-290
1 Cup Whole Milk
1 Serving Kashi High Protein Cereal
Calories-290
Tomato and Six Tuscan Cheese Pizza
2 serving (4 cookies) Mint Oreos
Calories-750
Tuscan Tomato, Olive Oil Pasta with 6 Cheeses
1 serving (2 cookies) Mint Oreos
Calories-648
1 Cup Whole Milk
1 Serving Kashi High Protein Cereal
Calories-290
Strawberries and Peanut Butter
Calories-167
1 serving (2 cookies) Mint Oreos
Calories-140
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2 Servings Cranberry Crunch Kashi
2 Cups Milk
Calories-700
Mint Oreos 1 Serving
Calories-140
Greek Yogurt Blueberry
Calories-130
Chocolate Oreos
Calories-150
2 Pieces Large Papa John`s Hawaiian Volcano Pizza
1 Piece Large The Works Papa John`s Pizza
Calories-1030
1 Piece Large Papa John`s Hawaiian Volcano Pizza
Calories-350
1 Oreo Chocolate
Calories-75
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2 Pieces Large Papa John`s Hawaiian Volcano Pizza
1 Piece Large The Works Papa John`s Pizza
Calories-1030
1 Piece Large Papa John`s Hawaiian Volcano Pizza
Calories-350
Mint Oreos 1 Serving
Calories-140
Chocolate Oreos
Calories-150
1 Serving Cranberry Crunch Kashi
1 Cups Milk
Calories- 350
1 Banana
Calories-100
Chocolate Oreos
Calories-150
1 Serving Cranberry Crunch Kashi
1 Cups Milk
Calories- 350
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Boy, you live on total crap. People like you then show up to some doctor and expect to be cured by some drug or chemo when your body becomes diseased from all the toxic crap you put into your body. You're pathetic argument of how shit-food breaks down to the same macronutrients as healthful food is a delusion the Medical establishment peddles. Their drugs and surgery only treat the symptom of a disorder..not the root cause which is caused by eating nutritionally worthless foods like you ingest.
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Boy, you live on total crap. People like you then show up to some doctor and expect to be cured by some drug or chemo when your body becomes diseased from all the toxic crap you put into your body. You're pathetic argument of how shit-food breaks down to the same macronutrients as healthful food is a delusion the Medical establishment peddles. Their drugs and surgery only treat the symptom of a disorder..not the root cause which is caused by eating nutritionally worthless foods like you ingest.
You are wrong. Hope this helps.
Oh and please die.
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Whole Wheat Couscous Olive Oil,Tomato Basil with 3 oz Buffalo Mozzarella
Calories-630
Chocolate Oreos
Calories-150
1 Serving Cranberry Crunch Kashi
1 Cups Milk
Calories- 350
Chocolate Oreos
Calories-150
1 Cup Milk
Calories-150
Tuna and Tomato Basil Pesto with Pasta
Calories- 520
Chocolate Oreo and Vanilla Ice Cream
Calories-280
1 Serving Cranberry Crunch Kashi
1 Cups Milk
Calories- 350
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Mcdonalds Sausage Biscuit
Mcdonalds Sausage Burrito
Calories-730
1 Serving Chocolate Oreos
Calories-150
1 Serving Cranberry Crunch Kashi
1 Cups Milk
Calories-340
1 Serving Cranberry Crunch Kashi
1 Cups Milk
1 Serving Oreos Chocolate
Calories 490
Penne with Nutmeg Cheese Sauce
Calories-495
Vanilla Oreo Ice Cream
Calories-280
Chocolate Oreo
Calories-75
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Mcdonalds Sausage Biscuit
Mcdonalds Sausage Burrito
Calories-730
Goodness thats half my day of calories
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Any current pics of you to prove your theories? Without the evidence it is inconclusive, right?
I'm not knocking how you get to the finish line, totally up to you, but I wouldn't feel comfortable recommending a diet like that to any of my friends or workout partners. Maybe a few snacks here and there; cheat on weekends whatever, but man that ''diet'' doesn't seem like the best choice. Just my opinion no expert here
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Mcdonalds Sausage Burrito
Mcdonalds Sausage Egg and Cheese McMuffin
Calories-750
1 Cup Whole Milk
Calories-150
Jalapenpo Smoked Hamburger
Calories-645
Chocolate Oreos- 1 Serving
Calories-150
Chocolate Milk
Calories-210
Whole Grain Mustard and Gourmet Cheese Blend Burger
Calories-580
Banana
Calories-100
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Any current pics of you to prove your theories? Without the evidence it is inconclusive, right?
I'm not knocking how you get to the finish line, totally up to you, but I wouldn't feel comfortable recommending a diet like that to any of my friends or workout partners. Maybe a few snacks here and there; cheat on weekends whatever, but man that ''diet'' doesn't seem like the best choice. Just my opinion no expert here
No kidding..even some ghetto dwelling, grape soda swilling, porkrind consuming ignoramus eats better than this clown.
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No kidding..even some ghetto dwelling, grape soda swilling, porkrind consuming ignoramus eats better than this clown.
Wrong and you look like utter garbage. I eat whatever I want whenever I want. Other than Grilling burgers and making some Pasta, I haven`t been in the mood to create anything elaborate.
I`m busy playing Red Dead Redemption and do not want to be disturbed.
Also, did I mention that you look absolutely horrible? Yes, Yes I do believe I did.
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Continuing on since Getbig was Shutdown....
2 Rodeo Cheeseburgers Burger King
Regular Size Fries
1 Serving Oreos
Calories-1163
1 Cup Chocolate Milk
1 Serving Oreos
Calories-350
Yukon Gold Potato
1 oz of Cheddar Cheese
Calories-290
1 Cup Whole Milk
1 Serving Oreos
Calories-290
1 Cup Chocolate Milk
Calories-210
Oatmeal made with Brown Sugar and 1 Cup Whole Milk
Calories-300
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Peanut Butter and Raspberry Preserves Sandwich
1 Serving Oreos
1 Cup of Whole Milk
Calories-670
Yukon Gold Potato with Sour Cream and Cheddar Cheese
1 Serving Oreos
Calories-423
Jalapeno and Cheese Dip with Wheat Bread
Calories-532
Peanut Butter and Raspberry Preserves Sandwich
1 Cup Milk
Calories-485
Greek Yogurt Vanilla
Calories-110
1 0z Mozzarella cheese
1 Cup of Milk
1 Serving Oreo cookies
Calories-370
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1 Greek Yogurt Strawberry
1 Serving Chocolate Oreos
1 Serving Oatmeal with Whole Milk and Brown Sugar
Calories-580
2 Slices Papa Johns The Works Pizza
Calories-660
1 Serving Regular Oreos
Calories-140
2 Slices Papa Johns The Works Pizza
Calories-660
Cherry Vanilla and Chocolate Ice Cream
Calories-280
Yukon Gold Potato with Cheddar Cheese and Sour Cream
Calories-290
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Peanut Butter and Raspberry Preserves Sandwich
1 Cup of Milk
1 Serving Oreo Cookies
Calories-663
Six Cheese Tomato, Onion and Basil Pizza with Aged Balsamic Vinegar
Calories-591
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You have the taste buds of 5 year old. You're like the little kid who can't eat anything on a real menu.
You can get away with this short term, but long term like that other guy suggested it is crap for health and longevity. It's not just about your outsides.
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You have the taste buds of 5 year old. You're like the little kid who can't eat anything on a real menu.
You can get away with this short term, but long term like that other guy suggested it is crap for health and longevity. It's not just about your outsides.
Wrong, my Pizza comes straight from the Julia Child CookBook.
Hope this helps.
Furthermore, you have a problem with home-grown Tomatoes, home grown Garlic and Home Grown Lemon Basil and 12 year old Balsamic Vinegar?
I bet you don`t even know what that tastes like.
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You have the taste buds of 5 year old. You're like the little kid who can't eat anything on a real menu.
You can get away with this short term, but long term like that other guy suggested it is crap for health and longevity. It's not just about your outsides.
Wrong, this is perfect for longevity as my diet is perfectly balanced Nutrient wise. I can`t say the same for your garbage approach though.
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I am also going to start posting pictures of food and of myself. I have just been too lazy to really do either. I also have been somewhat lazy when it comes to cooking lately because of Red Dead Redemption. Now that I finished it, I can start to bake cakes and make Indian food again.
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Wrong, this is perfect for longevity as my diet is perfectly balanced Nutrient wise. I can`t say the same for your garbage approach though.
Show me one health authority that would agree. To start, your diet is low in fiber, low in good fats, omega 3:6 ratio way too low, high in refined sugar and processed foods. It's low in fruits and vegetables. Science is just beginning to recognize the thousands of antioxidants and phytochemicals found in fruits, vegetables, and spices that you can't get from a pill or powder, stuff your diet just scratches the surface with.
Interesting you mention you feel lazy several times. My blood sugar would be out of wack following some of your concotions.
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Show me one health authority that would agree. To start, your diet is low in fiber, low in good fats, omega 3:6 ratio way too low, high in refined sugar and processed foods. It's low in fruits and vegetables. Science is just beginning to recognize the thousands of antioxidants and phytochemicals found in fruits, vegetables, and spices that you can't get from a pill or powder, stuff your diet just scratches the surface with.
Interesting you mention you feel lazy several times. My blood sugar would be out of wack following some of your concotions.
Uh, on average I get between 35-60 grams of fiber a day. Try again.
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Show me one health authority that would agree. To start, your diet is low in fiber, low in good fats, omega 3:6 ratio way too low, high in refined sugar and processed foods. It's low in fruits and vegetables. Science is just beginning to recognize the thousands of antioxidants and phytochemicals found in fruits, vegetables, and spices that you can't get from a pill or powder, stuff your diet just scratches the surface with.
Interesting you mention you feel lazy several times. My blood sugar would be out of wack following some of your concotions.
How about this, we do a side by side Nutrient comparison of our diets. I Guarantee mine will exceed yours as far as essential vitamin content, fat ratio, low cholesterol etc...
How about it?
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Show me one health authority that would agree. To start, your diet is low in fiber, low in good fats, omega 3:6 ratio way too low, high in refined sugar and processed foods. It's low in fruits and vegetables. Science is just beginning to recognize the thousands of antioxidants and phytochemicals found in fruits, vegetables, and spices that you can't get from a pill or powder, stuff your diet just scratches the surface with.
Interesting you mention you feel lazy several times. My blood sugar would be out of wack following some of your concotions.
I don`t feel lazy, I AM LAZY!
Last week I played Red Dead Redemption from start to finish instead of slaving away in the kitchen. Guilty. I NEVER feel tired whatsoever or have a lack of energy. I just shattered a few personal records in the gym tonight as a matter of fact.
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I was quite sick and tired of trying to post only to find that the site down for maintenance. I still followed 2600 calories daily.
Now its time to lower a bit more to 2200 calories to get super ripped.
Fiber One Cereal
1 Cup of Whole Milk
1 serving Mint Oreos
Calories-450
Tomato and Basil Six Cheese Pizza with aged Balsamic Glaze
Calories-512
Strawberries and Greek Yogurt
1 serving Mint Oreos
Calories-270
Charvela Ida
Calories-418
1 serving Reeses Cereal
1 Cup of Milk
1 serving Mint Oreos
Calories-410
Cucumber, Dill and Feta with Sour Cream
Calories-140
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Adonis, nobody gives a shit about my diet. You are the star. Maybe I'll start a food log if I'm really bored. Carry on.
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2 Servings Reeses Cereal
1 Cup of Milk
Calories-390
King Arthur Flour Perfect Pancakes with Vermont Maple Syrup
Calories-372
Greek Yogurt and Strawberries
Calories-130
Penne in Red Wine Tomato Basil with Buffalo Mozzarella
Calories-520
Peanut Butter and Raspberry Preserves on Farmhouse Bread
Calories-490
1 Serving Reeses Ceareal
1 Cup of Milk
1/2 oz of Feta Cheese
Calories-300
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2 Servings Reeses Cereal
1 Cup of Milk
1 Cup Orange Juice
Calories-510
King Arthur Flour Perfect Pancakes with Vermont Maple Syrup
Calories-427
Peanut Butter and Raspberry Preserves on Farmhouse Bread
Calories-490
Thai Coconut Mango Fish Curry
Calories-520
Bobby Flay Southwestern buttered Corn on the cob
1/2 oz Feta Cheese
Calories-245
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Starting to cook and bake again. 8)
2 Servings Corn Flakes
1 Cup Milk
Calories-390
Farfalle in Tomato Basil, Six cheese Bake
Calories-520
Southern Chocolate Ice Cream 1 Serving
Calories-140
1 Slice Charlie`s Afternoon Cake by François Payard
Calories-448
Whole Wheat Rotini with Tomato Herbed Feta and Rosemary
Calories-515
1 Cup Orange Juice
1 Serving Valrhona Chocolate
Calories-180
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1 Piece Charlie`s Afternoon Cake by François Payard
Calories-404
Whole Wheat CousCous with Cheese and Olive Oil
Calories-520
1 Cup Orange Juice
Calories-120
5 Egg and Cheese Herbed Tomato Frittatta
Calories-465
1 Piece Charlie`s Afternoon Cake by François Payard
Calories-423
Peanut Butter Truffles
Calories-250
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Bobby Flay`s Cheyenne Burger
Calories-792
1 Piece Charlie`s Afternoon Cake by François Payard
Calories-364
2 servings Corn Flakes
1 Cup Milk
Calories-390
Peanut Butter Truffles
Calories-250
CousCous Tuscan Cheese
Calories-400
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Bobby Flay`s Cheyenne Burger
Calories-853
2 Servings Corn Flakes
1 Cup Milk
Calories-390
1 Chocolate South Beach Protein/Fiber Bar
Calories-140
Build a Better Burger American Cheeseburger
Strawberries
Calories-615
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Adam - are you getting the protein requirements you've outlined previously? I didn't look, but I thought your general baseline was 1 gram per 1b of BW, in addition to the few other guidelines.
Have you changed this assumption, or just not felt like eating it the past few days?
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Adam - are you getting the protein requirements you've outlined previously? I didn't look, but I thought your general baseline was 1 gram per 1b of BW, in addition to the few other guidelines.
Have you changed this assumption, or just not felt like eating it the past few days?
I try to get about .5 to 1 gram per lb of bodyweight.....Somewhere between there on average. The Hamburgers I make for instance, from Bobby Flay`s cookbook, usually average around 50-70 grams of protein which is a great deal of my requirements so its rather easy to meet the rest.
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Continuing on....Ron really needs to do something about the structural integrity of this site....
Cascadian Farms Oatmeal Cereal
1 Cup Milk
Calories-360
2 Slices Papa John`s Pizza The Works
Calories-660
1 Chocolate South Beach Protein Bar
Calories-140
Strawberries and Heavy Whipped Cream
Calories-105
Cascadian Farms Oatmeal Cereal
1 Cup Milk
Calories-360
Strawberry Greek Yogurt
Calories-120
Panzanella
Calories-460
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TA: Interesting diet.
I don't know much about you, but I am guessing you're working out during all this too, correct?
If so, you'll never actually gain muscle, just starve off bodyfat accumulation. So i take it you're trying for the lean, more ripped look and less the more muscular look?
What happens when you wanna gain some size and put on some muscle?
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TA: Interesting diet.
I don't know much about you, but I am guessing you're working out during all this too, correct?
If so, you'll never actually gain muscle, just starve off bodyfat accumulation. So i take it you're trying for the lean, more ripped look and less the more muscular look?
What happens when you wanna gain some size and put on some muscle?
I do gain muscle on this diet and am able to keep my strength much higher than traditional "bro-science" bullshit bodybuilding diets which I have also used in the distant past to the T.
There is no reason why you should think otherwise.
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TA: Interesting diet.
I don't know much about you, but I am guessing you're working out during all this too, correct?
If so, you'll never actually gain muscle, just starve off bodyfat accumulation. So i take it you're trying for the lean, more ripped look and less the more muscular look?
What happens when you wanna gain some size and put on some muscle?
I do gain muscle on this diet and am able to keep my strength much higher than traditional "bro-science" bullshit bodybuilding diets which I have also used in the distant past to the T.
There is no reason why you should think otherwise.
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Really? You're gaining muscle on 2600 calories/day and a serious lack of protein?
Interesting thread!
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Really? You're gaining muscle on 2600 calories/day and a serious lack of protein?
Interesting thread!
I get .5 to 1 grams per lb of bodyweight which is plenty to facilitate and sustain muscle growth.
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I get .5 to 1 grams per lb of bodyweight which is plenty to facilitate and sustain muscle growth.
Well good luck. Sounds like an interesting study..
I disagree that you're actually gaining any muscle tissue with the lack of protein, but to each his own. If anything you're losing bf which is making you think you have gained muscle.
Keep posting. You should post some before and after type pictures and stats.
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I get .5 to 1 grams per lb of bodyweight which is plenty to facilitate and sustain muscle growth.
Has the ".5" always been part of the equation? I thought it was a strict 1.
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Well good luck. Sounds like an interesting study..
I disagree that you're actually gaining any muscle tissue with the lack of protein, but to each his own. If anything you're losing bf which is making you think you have gained muscle.
Keep posting. You should post some before and after type pictures and stats.
Here are some various "before" pictures.
Around 175-178 at 5`11 in all of these.
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Blahhhh
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Has the ".5" always been part of the equation? I thought it was a strict 1.
Yah .5 with 1 being the upper range, although if 1 is exceeded its completely fine.
I tend to be somewhere in the middle on average. My training is 4 days a week with sometimes 5 (rarely) and no cardio.
My training is Heavy and sometimes pretty fast about 40-50 minutes. Yesterday for instance I did Back which consisted of Pullups to 50 reps in which I started with a 45 lb weight hanging from me.
Then I went on to seated Cable Rows with a straight bar attatchment and did quadruple drop sets (4 sets of Drop Sets). What I do is start with the heaviest possible weight I can lift for 2-4 reps and continue to drop until the end of the stack or stopping if it gets to easy. Each time to failure and not counting any reps.
I then went to a Hammer Strength High Pulldown Machine and did Quadruple drop sets on it as well, starting with my maximum weight.
Next week I will try starting at a higher Maximum weight and doing drop sets the same. (constant weight progression)
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Your diet is pretty interesting and diferent from the typical bodybuilding diets I've seen. Do you worry about getting a specific macronutrient breakdown on your diet or just overall calories?
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TA: Pics look good. Shredded.
Those are all before pics? How are things now with this diet? Are you still fairly low on bf?
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Your diet is pretty interesting and diferent from the typical bodybuilding diets I've seen. Do you worry about getting a specific macronutrient breakdown on your diet or just overall calories?
Just overall calories with a goal of getting .5 to 1 gram per lb of bodyweight. My calories come from whatever I feel like eating or cooking.
I am about to make Kenny Shopsin`s Pumpkin Pancakes with some Grade B Maple Syrup I just bought. Grade B is the highest quality syrup you can get and it takes around 40 gallons of sap to make one gallon of it. It usually runs about 15 dollars for 16 ounces and is true Maple Syrup.
I figured, I might as well make the best possible pancakes to go along with it. :)
http://www.shopsins.com/
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TA: Pics look good. Shredded.
Those are all before pics? How are things now with this diet? Are you still fairly low on bf?
Yah, I stay this lean year round and eat whatever I want year round as well. In the fall/winter I increase my calories to around 3000 or so if not more (some months in the winter I may not even keep track). The highest I will go is around 185 lbs, still lean, but no need to go higher as there is no point in continually gaining fat.
I am still breaking a few Personal Records, one on Shoulder Presses last week.
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Cascadian Farms Oatmeal Cereal
1 Cup Milk
Calories-360
Southbeach Protein Bar
Calories-140
Blueberries and Greek Yogurt
Calories-120
Southbeach Protein Bar
Calories-140
Shopsin`s Pumpkin Pancakes with Vermont Maple Syrup and Butter
Calories-400
Avocado
Banana
Kashi High Protein Cereal
1 Cup Milk
Calories-602
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Yah, I stay this lean year round and eat whatever I want year round as well. In the fall/winter I increase my calories to around 3000 or so if not more (some months in the winter I may not even keep track). The highest I will go is around 185 lbs, still lean, but no need to go higher as there is no point in continually gaining fat.
I am still breaking a few Personal Records, one on Shoulder Presses last week.
whats your new record?
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whats your new record?
It was a personal record on the Hammer Strength Shoulder Press, so I don`t know if that means too much unless you are familiar with the same machine.
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Shopsin`s Pumpkin Pancakes with Vermont Maple Syrup
1 SouthBeach Chocolate Protein Bar
Calories-480
Tomato Basil Olive Oil with Mozarella Crostinis
Calories-475
Blueberries, Strawberries and Heavy Cream
Calories-160
Southbeach Chocolate Protein Bar
Calories-140
Kashi High Protein Cereal
1 Cup Milk
Calories-350
Shopsin Pumpkin Pancakes with Vermont Maple Syrup
Calories-290
Oat Fiber Bar
Heavy Cream
Strawberries
Calories-305
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So questions:
are you saying this diet is just a way to stay lean and ripped OR are you saying it's a way to stay lean and ripped AND put on muscle too?
Anyone knows that a decreasing caloric intake past caloric expenditure will result in loss of bodyfat...
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So questions:
are you saying this diet is just a way to stay lean and ripped OR are you saying it's a way to stay lean and ripped AND put on muscle too?
Anyone knows that a decreasing caloric intake past caloric expenditure will result in loss of bodyfat...
Both. I do raise my calories in the fall/winter but that does not mean its necessary for muscle gain.
Also, you can gain muscle and strength in a caloric defecit of course as long as you are training.
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Kashi High Protein Cereal
1 Cup Whole Milk
1 South Beach Protein Bar
Calories-490
Strawberry Greek Yogurt
Calories-120
Olive Oil and Basil Whole Wheat CousCous
Calories-360
1 Cup Whole Milk
1 Oatmeal Fiber Bar
Calories-290
Grilled Sausage with Grilled Carmelized Onions and Green Peppers on toasted Bun
Calories-425
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So, i'm guessing the premise that you're backing is that to gain muscle, weight training is all that is necessary?
Maybe if that's correct, you could gain even more with higher calories?
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So, i'm guessing the premise that you're backing is that to gain muscle, weight training is all that is necessary?
Maybe if that's correct, you could gain even more with higher calories?
You can`t force it when you are a Natural. The truth is, you will not progress very much over time once you have been training for a decent amount of time. I also have force fed myself to 246 lbs several times, dieting down from there several times and there has been absolutely no real benefit.
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You can`t force it when you are a Natural. The truth is, you will not progress very much over time once you have been training for a decent amount of time. I also have force fed myself to 246 lbs several times, dieting down from there several times and there has been absolutely no real benefit.
I see. I too am natural..
I thought that when you're calories are higher, your hormones rise, and you become stronger, and therefore can put on more muscle.
Your diet is interesting.
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Hey adonis what happened to your daily posts?
One question: do you think its necessary to increase protein above 1 gr per lb when on a calorie deficit? A lot of guys do that to maintain more muscle while dieting according to them.
In your case, did you maintain muscle just fine on .5 - 1 gr protein per lb while on a deficit?
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If we could put my head on your body, we'd have one good looking mother fucker...
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Grilled Sausage with Grilled Carmelized Onions and Green Peppers on toasted Bun
Calories-425
Oh man that sounds good. :P
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What is the avg calories ? How many days a week do you train? For how many minutes?
Did you ever do roids to get ripped originally? Then maintain?
Do you do sprints or cardio along with lifting?
Is the overal calorie in - calorie out the bottom line?
When you did 246 pound down to 173 did you get lipo to get rid of fat cells?
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I did the same for 2009, logging everything I ate in a thread.
We sure need more examples of non-masochistic diets.
Great thread, should be a sticky. Would be great if we could get some photos of the foods you cook yourself.
where are the adonis principles and where is the 09 wavelength thread?
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If we could put my head on your body, we'd have one good looking mother fucker...
imopressive!
no gear?
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new pics?
whats yer workout like? given a typical week?
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is there a listing of the diet?
workout?
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I will be reviving this shortly. 8)
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Adonis, how do you deal with hunger when not really eating very filling food??
How do you keep yourself from overeating/binging?
How long have you been using this calorie counting method?
How often do you have a high calorie day?
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Also please start posting your diet/workouts again. Would be much appreciated
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Adonis, how do you deal with hunger when not really eating very filling food??
How do you keep yourself from overeating/binging?
How long have you been using this calorie counting method?
How often do you have a high calorie day?
1. I don`t know what you mean by "filling". Try eating around the same time each day to take advantage of the hormone Grehlin which will abate your hunger if this is an issue.
2. Count your calories.
3. Years and years.
4. Whenever I feel like it. Sometimes days in a row, weeks or sometimes not for days or weeks. Just whenever I want with the trick being more deficit days overall than surplus. Its quite simple.
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Also please start posting your diet/workouts again. Would be much appreciated
Allrighty, I will start posting again on here.
Today I will not eat until 12 noon. I go 16 hours each day without eating as the benefit of fasting daily is proven to have a great positive impact on health.
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1. I don`t know what you mean by "filling". Try eating around the same time each day to take advantage of the hormone Grehlin which will abate your hunger if this is an issue.
I mean for example 400g of sweet potato is much more filling than for example a chocolate bar when they are equal in calories.
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Allrighty, I will start posting again on here.
Today I will not eat until 12 noon. I go 16 hours each day without eating as the benefit of fasting daily is proven to have a great positive impact on health.
So you are doing Intermittent Fasting at the moment? What is your current weight, height and bodyfat percentage?
Maybe you should start I new thread explaining your Adonis Principles so that newer members can also understand it a bit better, and then log your food each day stating your current goal etc... If it is too much trouble I understand!
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I mean for example 400g of sweet potato is much more filling than for example a chocolate bar when they are equal in calories.
I don`t agree.
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I don`t agree.
For me personally if I eat 400g potato I would be full for an hour or two, but if I eat a chocolate bar I'm not really full which will lead me to eating more?
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Also:
How much calories would you recommend for me if I want to maintain a lean body 6-8% bf year round? I'm currently 105kg, 185cm, 12-15% bf.
And also for my girlfriend:
She's 165cm, 68kg, and I would say 18-20% bf. She does weight training with me.
Your advice is much appreciated. :)
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Good thread. Should keep this going Adonis. I think a lot of people could benefit from this.
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This thread shouldn't erupt into a flame war again.
The thread is about improving body composition in other ways than traditional bodybuilding methods.
Quoting articles about how "unhealthy" the diet is benefits nobody and only irritates most that is subscribed to this thread. Sure some of the food isn't the "healthiest", but that's besides the point.
Please respect what is being written. Adonis doesn't come into threads about a bodybuilding diet and says its shit. He is just expressing what has worked for him and many others.
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Deleted. Sorry dudes. Was wondering about the kashi? Was wondering bout the soy? Nevermind. Wasnt meant to derail. Will delete this one as well.
Its not necessary to delete it. I was just mentioning it because normally evryone just flames Adonis for his stance on nutrition
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Good thread, had no idea it existed till now. Thanks
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where are the adonis principles listed?
does it just mean count calories and lower them until ripped?
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