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Title: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: Parker on May 10, 2010, 05:20:59 AM
Who is the better winner of the NY Pro or the better rookie? Okay, many of you know I don't see Evan Centopani as anything but a dude with good arms and legs, bur I think he has no heart. He won the NY Pro last year against a weak field that included a weak Ruhl and DJ, both of whom have been lethal in the past. Roelly, who won his pro card at the Arnold Amatuers last year, placed 7th at the Arnold, 3rd at the Aussie and won the NY Pro. The Arnold was a tough field, and so was the Aussie Pro, the NY Pro was a third tier show, with the respectable type of competitors.

And then there is the thing where one took 18 mos off to prepare, and the other jumped right in, showing that he is game. Oh, and BTW, MattT hates Roelly, me I said, he was going places, like i said Phil was and prior to that Richard Jones.
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: affeman on May 10, 2010, 05:23:52 AM
Roelly is a pussymagnet, Centopani stalks bitches on the internet from his moms house.

http://clips.team-andro.com/watch/093f48c7c26980ec4a4c/NYC-Diary-NY-City-Shooting-Thursday
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: Parker on May 10, 2010, 05:28:29 AM
Roelly is a pussymagnet, Centopani stalks bitches on the internet from his moms house.

http://clips.team-andro.com/watch/093f48c7c26980ec4a4c/NYC-Diary-NY-City-Shooting-Thursday
Ha, yeah!
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: dave19 on May 10, 2010, 05:32:19 AM
Evan Centopani .. taller , more aesthetic and besides that a very friendly guy.

Might still be lacking a bit but I just don't see a lot of future potential for Roelly .. his midsection/obliques look horrible.
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: Schmoe Buster on May 10, 2010, 05:41:42 AM
Evan Centopani .. taller , more aesthetic and besides that a very friendly guy.

Might still be lacking a bit but I just don't see a lot of future potential for Roelly .. his midsection/obliques look horrible.

get a haircut hippy
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: dave19 on May 10, 2010, 05:45:25 AM
get a haircut hippy

Haven't we already been through this ?  :P
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: affeman on May 10, 2010, 05:49:45 AM
Why have you decided to reveal your face all of a sudden, "dave19"?
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: dave19 on May 10, 2010, 05:54:14 AM
Don't really care about some guys jerking off to my pictures anylonger..  ;)

Besides that more and more people from the boards know who I am anyway.
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: tendonitis on May 10, 2010, 05:54:56 AM
one thing is for sure, Roelly is better at impregnating women he has no intention of marrying
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: emn1964 on May 10, 2010, 08:16:59 AM
peaceful28
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: G_Thang on May 10, 2010, 08:34:24 AM
Quote from: Parker link=topic=330258.msg4712800#msg4712800 date=12734940
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Who is the better winner of the NY Pro or the better rookie? Okay, many of you know I don't see Evan Centopani as anything but a dude with good arms and legs, bur I think he has no heart. He won the NY Pro last year against a weak field that included a weak Ruhl and DJ, both of whom have been lethal in the past. Roelly, who won his pro card at the Arnold Amatuers last year, placed 7th at the Arnold, 3rd at the Aussie and won the NY Pro. The Arnold was a tough field, and so was the Aussie Pro, the NY Pro was a third tier show, with the respectable type of competitors.

And then there is the thing where one took 18 mos off to prepare, and the other jumped right in, showing that he is game. Oh, and BTW, MattT hates Roelly, me I said, he was going places, like i said Phil was and prior to that Richard Jones.

parker...you hate evan...so cut the hidden agenda.  :)

roelly is better out the gates but evan had size and could do damage like actually win the mrO if he progresses during his layoffs.  it's a weak generation of bbers if kai is killing the golden boy...so those 2 could have some top 6 finishes maybe in their futures.  roelly should have been 6 not 7.

as far as mattT...i didnt see his comments on roelly.  what were they?  he could learn from roelly since they are nearly the same height and build...and he still having problems winning his class a local shows.

and to mattT...i hope you got on paper your stake in that web site...and arent0 promoting it for nothing...since you dont own the domain.  


 
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: newmom on May 10, 2010, 08:35:30 AM
peaceful28

LMAO
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: emn1964 on May 10, 2010, 09:19:53 AM
LMAO

don't bust an onion honey...
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: Tito24 on May 10, 2010, 09:24:52 AM
one thing is for sure, Roelly is better at impregnating women he has no intention of marrying

Roelly is a pussy magnet..

Keep him away from your sister, and mother.
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: Wiggs on May 10, 2010, 09:36:30 AM
Tied right now.  Can't really say who has more potential.  Roelly is thicker, Evan is taller...Evan is not really that wide for his height but he isn't narrow either.
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: kyomu on May 10, 2010, 09:54:36 AM
Evan is good. But there is no "wow" factor.
But, Winklaar has that "wow" factor.
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on May 10, 2010, 10:05:38 AM
i personally see it like this:


i think rollley due to his height, has pretty much maxed out his frame

too much additional mass is going to ruin alot of his lines symmetry and seperation

in  a perferct world he would just add the mass where he needed, his chest abd back, but it wont happen like that

he looked very polished last weekend though
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: G_Thang on May 10, 2010, 10:28:27 AM
upside to evan if he wants it.  in today's bbing roelly's size will limit him to a certain pt.

evan best marketing package at this moment outside of jay n a worthless wolfe. 
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: newmom on May 10, 2010, 10:29:42 AM
don't bust an onion honey...

I'm not your honey ;D
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: Parker on May 10, 2010, 10:38:23 AM
upside to evan if he wants it.  in today's bbing roelly's size will limit him to a certain pt.

evan best marketing package at this moment outside of jay n a worthless wolfe. 
As you said, I'm am NOT a fan of Evan, but I think he has some world class arms. What you did say does make sense. I do think that Frank McGrath a better marketing model for Animal than Evan. Frank represented the company model- and coming, hungry, grassroots, underground. He had that edgey old skool blue collar vibe to him. Evan does not, Frank seemed hard working, Evan hardly working. Too bad Frank tore a bicep.
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: Ron on May 10, 2010, 11:01:58 AM

These two should compete against each other in a future contest - and let us hype it out. It will be good.

Evan might have the edge though - when he was in top form, he looked great... but Roelly, in one years time, has surprised all! Definately the rookie of the year.

Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: Parker on May 10, 2010, 11:11:01 AM
These two should compete against each other in a future contest - and let us hype it out. It will be good.

Evan might have the edge though - when he was in top form, he looked great... but Roelly, in one years time, has surprised all! Definately the rookie of the year.


Quite true. Roelly came outta nowhere, pretty much the break thru of the year. But most surprisingly, in terns of the Western Hemisphere, he used the Arnold Am, as a pro qualifier, thus giving that contest more cred, and look at the quality the typical NPC qualifiers are putting out these past yrs. None can really match Roelly, so what is that saying about the NPC these day
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: G_Thang on May 10, 2010, 11:17:57 AM
Quite true. Roelly came outta nowhere, pretty much the break thru of the year. But most surprisingly, in terns of the Western Hemisphere, he used the Arnold Am, as a pro qualifier, thus giving that contest more cred, and look at the quality the typical NPC qualifiers are putting out these past yrs. None can really match Roelly, so what is that saying about the NPC these day

manion sr is still the chairman and earns a generous six figure income plus travel, lodging and all covered.  manion jr is the official photographer.  any other manions on that cash cow non-profit payroll. 
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: BIG ACH on May 10, 2010, 11:25:15 AM

I vote EVAN, in my opinion.. a more pleasant looking physique
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: Parker on May 10, 2010, 11:26:12 AM
manion sr is still the chairman and earns a generous six figure income plus travel, lodging and all covered.  manion jr is the official photographer.  any other manions on that cash cow non-profit payroll. 
Well, it seems he should do some more strigent quality control. This whole system needs to cleaned out...their needs to be a effctive enema for cleaning everybody out. Maybe if the Feds stepped in as a to regulate the abuse in drugs and judging there might be some cred giving back to bbing. Now, I said abuse, bbing and drug use go hand in hand, just like pro football, so some tolerance should be normal. The corruption in bbing is soo bad and soo transparent, we joke it about all the time, even the competitors do.
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: SWOLETRAIN on May 10, 2010, 04:17:46 PM
I vote the big ass whiteboy  ;D
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: the_swami on May 10, 2010, 04:20:33 PM
Evan vs Roelly

Evan wins because he is Jim Manion's boy
plain and simple
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: G_Thang on May 11, 2010, 12:22:05 AM
As you said, I'm am NOT a fan of Evan, but I think he has some world class arms. What you did say does make sense. I do think that Frank McGrath a better marketing model for Animal than Evan. Frank represented the company model- and coming, hungry, grassroots, underground. He had that edgey old skool blue collar vibe to him. Evan does not, Frank seemed hard working, Evan hardly working. Too bad Frank tore a bicep.

hahaha.
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: alnassak on May 11, 2010, 12:53:19 AM
I like Evan and he looked great last year at the NYP, but I think if he showed up this year the same way he did last year, Roelly would have still be the winner.  ;)

I wish that he had made good improvements this year and looking forward to see it very soon.  :)

gotta love his side chest pose
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: kyomu on May 11, 2010, 01:58:36 AM
Roelly is a pussymagnet, Centopani stalks bitches on the internet from his moms house.

http://clips.team-andro.com/watch/093f48c7c26980ec4a4c/NYC-Diary-NY-City-Shooting-Thursday
Woa. I thought this was joke until watching this video. :D 8)
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: Robgun1 on May 14, 2010, 06:34:19 PM
peaceful28

I second that.  Stalkerpani followed her around like a puppy for over a year and hacked into her MD account only to find out that John Romano was already schmoeing her. It will be remembered as a legendary moment in bodybuilding that Stalkerpani officially lost his mind and waged war. lmao



http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=302197.msg4325554#msg4325554

Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: Robgun1 on May 14, 2010, 06:35:36 PM
I vote EVAN, in my opinion.. a more pleasant looking physique  (no homo)

correction
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on May 14, 2010, 06:40:00 PM
evan centopani....the great white hype.....is using a good rationale......the longer i do not compete, the longer i can stretch out my initial hype before i am exposed as a charlatan

whomever said it was correct, if he showed up this year like he did last year.........rolley would have buttraped him
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: Immortal_Technique on May 16, 2010, 11:04:27 AM
Who is the better winner of the NY Pro or the better rookie? Okay, many of you know I don't see Evan Centopani as anything but a dude with good arms and legs, bur I think he has no heart. He won the NY Pro last year against a weak field that included a weak Ruhl and DJ, both of whom have been lethal in the past. Roelly, who won his pro card at the Arnold Amatuers last year, placed 7th at the Arnold, 3rd at the Aussie and won the NY Pro. The Arnold was a tough field, and so was the Aussie Pro, the NY Pro was a third tier show, with the respectable type of competitors.

And then there is the thing where one took 18 mos off to prepare, and the other jumped right in, showing that he is game. Oh, and BTW, MattT hates Roelly, me I said, he was going places, like i said Phil was and prior to that Richard Jones.

I think 2 things are interesting about this. Centopani famously had weak legs a couple of years ago, so the fact he's got them big enough for people like you to say they are good says quite a lot about his 'heart', and the value of his time off and concomitant improvements.

People always like the most recent hype and forget about last year's hype, so you are one of the people who next year will say Roelly is 'done' and next year's NY winner is the future.

As a side note, it seems intelligent to take some time off to improve, in a Dorian Yates style, if necessary. Yes Roelly beat the mighty Hide (who looked phenominal, probably should have won, but isn't really top tier pro is he?) and an off Wolf and Freeman, but his condition is inferior to Centopani. We'll see I guess, Roelly probably has better genes and may go further in the long run, but Centopani's dilligence is to be commended.
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: Parker on May 16, 2010, 11:30:32 AM
I think 2 things are interesting about this. Centopani famously had weak legs a couple of years ago, so the fact he's got them big enough for people like you to say they are good says quite a lot about his 'heart', and the value of his time off and concomitant improvements.

People always like the most recent hype and forget about last year's hype, so you are one of the people who next year will say Roelly is 'done' and next year's NY winner is the future.

As a side note, it seems intelligent to take some time off to improve, in a Dorian Yates style, if necessary. Yes Roelly beat the mighty Hide (who looked phenominal, probably should have won, but isn't really top tier pro is he?) and an off Wolf and Freeman, but his condition is inferior to Centopani. We'll see I guess, Roelly probably has better genes and may go further in the long run, but Centopani's dilligence is to be
commended.
good observation. But, I don't bandwagon and jump on hype.
I had said last yr that Roelly was one to watch. Others doubted me. I had said that Phil wasxone to watch. Prior to that, I was saying Richard Jones, prior to him winning his pro card. I am a fan of Omar Deckard and Lionel Brown, two guys who haven't produced, but can do so. Also Brandon Curry.
I think Auguste will get his pro card as well.

Another dude watch would be Ben Paluski and Fankhouser.
Hide is not mighty, Hide has structural and aesthetic and separation problems. He fan only out condition third tier pros, after that he is nothing big...there are Japanese dudes out there blow Hide away.

About Centopani, getting his legs big is one thing in the off season, having them big when diet down is another. Melvin has this problem, as does Deshawn Grimes.
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: Immortal_Technique on May 16, 2010, 11:41:39 AM
good observation. But, I don't bandwagon and jump on hype.
I had said last yr that Roelly was one to watch. Others doubted me. I had said that Phil wasxone to watch. Prior to that, I was saying Richard Jones, prior to him winning his pro card. I am a fan of Omar Deckard and Lionel Brown, two guys who haven't produced, but can do so. Also Brandon Curry.
I think Auguste will get his pro card as well.

Another dude watch would be Ben Paluski and Fankhouser.
Hide is not mighty, Hide has structural and aesthetic and separation problems. He fan only out condition third tier pros, after that he is nothing big...there are Japanese dudes out there blow Hide away.

About Centopani, getting his legs big is one thing in the off season, having them big when diet down is another. Melvin has this problem, as does Deshawn Grimes.

Okay fair enough. But if Hide is so bad then why is everyone saying Roelly beat such a good field at the NY? Hide came 2nd. So if the field was strong he must be a strong competitor? If he blows then it was a blowy field surely?

I agree Evan lost a bunch of leg size dieting down for the NY, but he understood ripped hams and glutes are more important that insanely massive quads. There was still major progress, and I still think the guy has serious heart. His conditioning is a bunch better than Melvin. I'm only concerned his waiste is expanding with all the heavy squats. Roelly has awesome shape and size. We'll see if he can get that hard-as-nails look he'll need to beat the Dexters and Kai Greens.

Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: Parker on May 16, 2010, 12:27:37 PM
Maybe his yr's field is better than last yr's.  But both yrs have a pretty weak field in general. This ur'sxfield was hyped because of Toney and Wolf... Big men tend to hype shows. Plus Hide just came off of a win.
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: Ex Coelis on May 16, 2010, 01:23:25 PM
Hide looked great and compared very well

can't take that away from him
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: Parker on May 16, 2010, 01:34:32 PM
Hide looked great and compared very well

can't take that away from him
Yes he compared favorably well to a lineup of bloated, blown gut having, sacks of third rate shit. The NY Pro is not like the NOC of old, it is a embarassing third tier  show.
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: kiwiol on May 16, 2010, 01:38:03 PM
Evan has a bit of a wide waist, but not so much that it throws off his overall look, as is the case with guys like Paco or Atwood. Roelly has freaky arms and legs, but his midsection looked terrible in the NY Pro and he has a weak back, which isn't very easy to improve. He looks great in the precontest pics when standing by himself (a la Dennis James), but loses that presence onstage, when he's compared with other guys.

Only major problem for Evan is his waist, but Jay Cutler has a similar problem and still managed to win the Olympia, although Jay has wider shoulders and a better taper. If Evan improves his taper, he'll be better than Roelly.
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: Parker on May 16, 2010, 01:45:18 PM
Good analysis! Although it was shown that Roelly's midsection looked better when he doesn't crunch down in the FDB. Also his back has improve.
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: 240 is Back on May 16, 2010, 02:31:54 PM
Evan hates dieting, and will probably do 4 shows in the next 5 years.

Roelly will do 5 or 7 shows a year.
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: SWOLETRAIN on May 16, 2010, 03:07:05 PM
NYP was the best Rolley we will ever see. Hes maxed out, like a hidetada. I think if he gets bigger its gonna be the start of the downward spiral. And if he stays the same hes not a threat on the o stage. Hes no dexter jackson. Evan is a young swole whiteboy with semi good white guy genetics like cutler. Nobody ever thought cutler would be the guy to beat? Evan can pack the mass on it takes to be a top contender. IMO its just a matter of time...
Title: Re: Who is better, Roelly Winklaar or Evan Centopani?
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on May 16, 2010, 03:19:25 PM
Its really hard to look at Roelly and actually like him, he just looks like a chinese black man with down-syndrome.
It also makes me sick to my stomach when he poses, hes squints his eyes and the wrinkles in his face pop out making him look like a certified retard.

The guy seems like a complete dumbass also, especially in his eating vid
His so called "fans" get to watch him for the first time and the dude doesnt say a word, i mean how fucking hard is it to say "thank you for my fans who supported me?".

Roelly is just some ugly mongrel who crawled out of some shithole somewhere, abit like Golem from lord of the rings.
I mean, look at this thing.....again it fucking makes me sick to my stomach