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http://mediamatters.org/blog/201005180006 (http://mediamatters.org/blog/201005180006)
It's getting difficult to even remember when Beck's show was averaging three million viewers each night, even though that was just four short months ago. These days, Glenn Beck is more likely to draw two million viewers, which means that yes, the Fox News host has lost one-third of his audience already this year.
Not only that, but there are increasingly days where Beck no longer hits the two million mark. Like on April 9, when, according to Nielsen data, the show drew 1.97 million viewers, which set the year's low mark. Then on April 22, the show dipped down further, to 1.82 million viewers. And now Glenn Beck has set yet another ratings low: May 14, the show attracted 1.77 million viewers. That is almost exactly half the audience the show was getting at its peak in late January.
Wow.
Last time I documented the precipitous, and undeniable, fall in Beck's ratings, the host became quite defensive and claimed that I had cherry-picked the data.
But of course, my reporting was factual and dead-on. So I can't wait to hear how he spins the fact that he just set another ratings low for 2010.
And oh yeah, as I previously pointed out, last June, July and August were very unkind to Glenn Beck in terms of ratings. There clearly seemed to be a pronounced summer seasonal effect that drove down his audience. (After all, his show does air at 5 p.m. in the afternoon and who spends those summer hours watching cable news?) My point being, I've got a hunch that same seasonal dip is waiting right around the corner, which means Glenn Beck may be setting more rating lows in the coming weeks and months.
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the Fox News host has lost one-third of his audience already this year.
People aren't as pissed off as they were last year. Accept it. Just because many getbig political junkies are still pissed, doesn't mean the casual part-time politics fan is still as angry.
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You really have turned into a full blown obama dildo if you believe that.
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Whenever ratings get low, TV pundits have a couple of tricks up their sleeves..
(http://chattahbox.com/images/2009/10/beck_crying.jpg)
Time to resort to new tricks to keep the numbers high.
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"You really have turned into a full blown obama dildo if you believe that. "
Repubs are what, 10% less motivated to vote in Novembed (gallup)
Obama's approval rating rising, surprising to beach bum in his thread (Zogby)
How else do you explain it? The more time since the healthcare shit, the less angry repubs are. Those numbers don't lie.
Again - it's not me kneepadding, it's me analyzing why reubs are less anxious to vote and mods are liking obama more. Do you have another theory besides insulting me?
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How is he doing in his time slot and who is he competing against?
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Whenever ratings get low, TV pundits have a couple of tricks up their sleeves..
(http://chattahbox.com/images/2009/10/beck_crying.jpg)
Time to resort to new tricks to keep the numbers high.
Perhaps, you should have advised Campbell Brown on some of those "tricks".
Campbell Brown Leaving CNN: 'I Pay Attention to Ratings'
Compounding CNN’s ratings problems, the prime-time anchor Campbell Brown said Wednesday that she was leaving the cable news channel.
Ms. Brown said it was her decision to leave, and that she would remain the anchor of the 8 p.m. hour on CNN during “the transition.”
In a lengthy and heartfelt statement, she wrote, “Simply put, the ratings for my program are not where I would like them to be.”
To be clear: this is my decision, and one that I have been thinking about for some time. As for why, I could have said, that I am stepping down to spend more time with my children (which I truly want to do). Or that I am leaving to pursue other opportunities (which I also truly want to do). But I have never had much tolerance for others’ spin, so I can’t imagine trying to stomach my own. The simple fact is that not enough people want to watch my program, and I owe it to myself and to CNN to get out of the way so that CNN can try something else.
CNN will have to figure out what that is. The 8pm hour in cable news world is currently driven by the indomitable Bill O’Reilly, Nancy Grace and Keith Olbermann. Shedding my own journalistic skin to try to inhabit the kind of persona that might co-exist in that line up is simply impossible for me. It is not who I am or who I want to be; nor is it who CNN asked me to be at any point. This is the right decision for me and I hope it will be a great opportunity for CNN.
http://www.thefoxnation.com/cnn/2010/05/18/campbell-brown-leaving-cnn-i-pay-attention-ratings (http://www.thefoxnation.com/cnn/2010/05/18/campbell-brown-leaving-cnn-i-pay-attention-ratings)
How is he doing in his time slot and who is he competing against?
He's competing (if you can call it that) against Chris Matthews (Harball) and Wolf Blitzer (The Situation Room). And he's KILLING THEM!!!
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all the tv sets are turned on in the dining rooms of the nursing homes. their time period is the same as the old people have their evening meal.
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Whenever ratings get low, TV pundits have a couple of tricks up their sleeves..
(http://chattahbox.com/images/2009/10/beck_crying.jpg)
Time to resort to new tricks to keep the numbers high.
thanks for the pic post. will need to add this to the 'happy-good-times' file
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all the tv sets are turned on in the dining rooms of the nursing homes. their time period is the same as the old people have their evening meal.
Keep telling yourself that.
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Keep telling yourself that.
More excuses by liberals, as to why CNN and MSNBC continue to get pummeled by Fox.
At least, CNN is trying to change its format to compete somewhat. MSNBC sticks with its tried-and-false "kneepadding" (as you like to call it) or "D&#^-riding" (as that Boondocks parody deems it), and the beatings continue for that network.
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Maybe we could get 240 or Danny to compare Becks ratings to those of Chris Mathews or Shultz[Beck competitors].Im sure their ratings havent dropped off much, but then again when no one watches the show its tought to get less viewers.The fact that Beck draws 1.5-2 million viewers at 5pm is fairly amazing.In fact,maybe they could compare Becks show at 5 to Olbermanns at 8 [prime time]or Maddow at prime time.THEN you see what an absolute ass kicking FOX puts on lib networks every night.
Now,in my opinion,his shows have become to gloom and doom.When I used to watch him,he was the funniest guy on television.I think he has become to serious and his show has become a bore.I used to like his tv show more then his radio show,but now I like his radio show better because the guys he has on there with him just make fun of him all show.
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I'm more a radio guy. TV just seems way too scripted for me.
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I'm more a radio guy. TV just seems way too scripted for me.
Plus, the radio shows are three hours long vs. the TV shows, that only run for an hour.
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This thread is really dumb.As the weather heats up,ratings will always drop for news programs.They will ESPECIALLY drop when there isnt an election on the horizon.Beck is on at 5 pm,its warm out,people get home at 5 and instead of watching television they go outside.However,once again,compare his ratings to his rivals.Its not even close.
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This thread is really dumb.As the weather heats up,ratings will always drop for news programs.They will ESPECIALLY drop when there isnt an election on the horizon.Beck is on at 5 pm,its warm out,people get home at 5 and instead of watching television they go outside.However,once again,compare his ratings to his rivals.Its not even close.
His ratings have dropped....significantly . And that's it. If you wanna look for excuses....summer, good weather..lack of election drama, you can but the fact is his numbers are dropping like flies. Just like CNN's did recently.There 's no other comment on it, this is not about competition , it is just a piece of information for those who watch this lunatic....or not. If you like to live in fear than watching Beck combined with listening to Doughboy is a must. I'm sure there are plenty of idiots in this country so somebody has to cater to them and speak their language.
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Yet, you are silent about the left wing having ZERO ratings no matter what format they,it, enters.
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More excuses by liberals, as to why CNN and MSNBC continue to get pummeled by Fox.
At least, CNN is trying to change its format to compete somewhat. MSNBC sticks with its tried-and-false "kneepadding" (as you like to call it) or "D&#^-riding" (as that Boondocks parody deems it), and the beatings continue for that network.
This is the reason cha cha...Fox makes "news" (oh brother) sensational. CSPAN is boring to Americans because they are impartial and full of information. Fox "news" (holy christ) is simply full of stories with far out opinions. The sad part is this, Hannity, Beck etc dont even believe their own shit...its entertainment....not news...but idiots take it as gosepel. Thats it and thats all..
with their reports "some people are saying that obama blah blaqh" ...you cant fact check that..but its a way to get an opinion out....
Jesus h christ am i fearful for MY country...when Fox "news" (for the love of God) is the source of information.. we have an extreme issue on our hands
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http://mediamatters.org/blog/201005180006 (http://mediamatters.org/blog/201005180006)
It's getting difficult to even remember when Beck's show was averaging three million viewers each night, even though that was just four short months ago. These days, Glenn Beck is more likely to draw two million viewers, which means that yes, the Fox News host has lost one-third of his audience already this year.
Not only that, but there are increasingly days where Beck no longer hits the two million mark. Like on April 9, when, according to Nielsen data, the show drew 1.97 million viewers, which set the year's low mark. Then on April 22, the show dipped down further, to 1.82 million viewers. And now Glenn Beck has set yet another ratings low: May 14, the show attracted 1.77 million viewers. That is almost exactly half the audience the show was getting at its peak in late January.
Wow.
Last time I documented the precipitous, and undeniable, fall in Beck's ratings, the host became quite defensive and claimed that I had cherry-picked the data.
But of course, my reporting was factual and dead-on. So I can't wait to hear how he spins the fact that he just set another ratings low for 2010.
And oh yeah, as I previously pointed out, last June, July and August were very unkind to Glenn Beck in terms of ratings. There clearly seemed to be a pronounced summer seasonal effect that drove down his audience. (After all, his show does air at 5 p.m. in the afternoon and who spends those summer hours watching cable news?) My point being, I've got a hunch that same seasonal dip is waiting right around the corner, which means Glenn Beck may be setting more rating lows in the coming weeks and months.
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His ratings have dropped....significantly . And that's it. If you wanna look for excuses....summer, good weather..lack of election drama, you can but the fact is his numbers are dropping like flies. Just like CNN's did recently.There 's no other comment on it, this is not about competition , it is just a piece of information for those who watch this lunatic....or not. If you like to live in fear than watching Beck combined with listening to Doughboy is a must. I'm sure there are plenty of idiots in this country so somebody has to cater to them and speak their language.
And yet he still gets three to four times as many viewers as MSNBC in the same time slot and he beats MSNBCs big hosts at 8 and 9pm EVERY fucking day.Please tell me ANYTIME in history where the 5pm hour beats the living hell out of the 8 and 9 pm slots.
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This is the reason cha cha...Fox makes "news" (oh brother) sensational. CSPAN is boring to Americans because they are impartial and full of information. Fox "news" (holy christ) is simply full of stories with far out opinions. The sad part is this, Hannity, Beck etc dont even believe their own shit...its entertainment....not news...but idiots take it as gosepel. Thats it and thats all..
with their reports "some people are saying that obama blah blaqh" ...you cant fact check that..but its a way to get an opinion out....
Jesus h christ am i fearful for MY country...when Fox "news" (for the love of God) is the source of information.. we have an extreme issue on our hands
Tell that to 338 and Billy... ::) They are so busy hating and trying to discredit this ELECTED president and democratic principles he and 40-50 milion people stand for, they completely fail to even question what Beck and the crazies at Fox say. :o
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And yet he still gets three to four times as many viewers as MSNBC in the same time slot and he beats MSNBCs big hosts at 8 and 9pm EVERY fucking day.Please tell me ANYTIME in history where the 5pm hour beats the living hell out of the 8 and 9 pm slots.
Master P went Platinum and Mos Def hasnt..
Whos better :-\
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Tell that to 338 and Billy... ::) They are so busy hating and trying to discredit this ELECTED president and democratic principles he and 40-50 milion people stand for, they completely fail to even question what Beck and the crazies at Fox say. :o
Like what Danny? I dont watch TV other than the Yankees games on YES.
I have read a few books recommended by beck and each has been completely legitimate and filled with great info. Maybe you libs should try reading for once.
BTW - the grifter and pofs in the WH discredits himself every day with his actions.
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Like what Danny? I dont watch TV other than the Yankees games on YES.
I have read a few books recommended by beck and each has been completely legitimate and filled with great info. Maybe you libs should try reading for once.
BTW - the grifter and pofs in the WH discredits himself every day with his actions.
Hey..what school did Beck Graduate from?
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Master P went Platinum and Mos Def hasnt..
Whos better :-\
Mos Def SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Rappers like him and Common SUCK BALLS!!!The whole messege rap is bullshit.rAP MUSIC SHOULD BE ABOUT PUTTING CAPS IN PEOPLE,BITCHES AND MONEY.Just like heavy metal should be about demons and devils.When these dumb ass rappers start doing their messege raps I want to vommit.
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Tell that to 338 and Billy... ::) They are so busy hating and trying to discredit this ELECTED president and democratic principles he and 40-50 milion people stand for, they completely fail to even question what Beck and the crazies at Fox say. :o
He ran as a moderate.He is a fraud.If he ran as what he was he would have only gotten his black votes and the few fools on here who are little more then self hating scum bags.
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Hey..what school did Beck Graduate from?
And what does that have to do with anything? Mal - you are a fucking joke bro - Would you say the same thing about a book recommended by Bill Gates considering he never went to college?
Not comparing Beck and Gates, but to try to discredit anything he recommends based on that is beyond stupid. No, its typical.
Look up any of those books on Amazon and see the reviews they get.
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Mos Def SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Rappers like him and Common SUCK BALLS!!!The whole messege rap is bullshit.rAP MUSIC SHOULD BE ABOUT PUTTING CAPS IN PEOPLE,BITCHES AND MONEY.Just like heavy metal should be about demons and devils.When these dumb ass rappers start doing their messege raps I want to vommit.
And there you have it...
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And there you have it...
Exactly.Thats why groups like NWA are ground breaking and people like Common and Mos Def will be forgotten the day they leave the rap buisiness.In fact,Id be willing to bet the average rap fan couldnt name an album by Mos Def or Common,but ask them if they know STRAIGHT OUTTA COMPTON.Thats why tupac and Biggie are legends and Mos Def is a nobody.
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Exactly.Thats why groups like NWA are ground breaking and people like Common and Mos Def will be forgotten the day they leave the rap buisiness.In fact,Id be willing to bet the average rap fan couldnt name an album by Mos Def or Common,but ask them if they know STRAIGHT OUTTA COMPTON.Thats why tupac and Biggie are legends and Mos Def is a nobody.
anything to do by any chance with the fact they're both...dead?? ;D
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Exactly.Thats why groups like NWA are ground breaking and people like Common and Mos Def will be forgotten the day they leave the rap buisiness.In fact,Id be willing to bet the average rap fan couldnt name an album by Mos Def or Common,but ask them if they know STRAIGHT OUTTA COMPTON.Thats why tupac and Biggie are legends and Mos Def is a nobody.
Actually, Common and Mos Def are both actors and movie stars (the former, starring in the recently-released movie, "Just Wright", a romantic comedy, in which he plays a basketball player). Plus, Common hasn't exactly left hip-hop (he's been around for over 20 years). It was just a year and half ago, he released an album, "Universal Mind Control", with a smash hit of the same title.
And, as far as message rap goes, it appears you've forgotten about groups like Public Enemy. Not to mention the laundry list of hip-hop icons (Will Smith, MC Hammer, LL Cool J, Heavy D, etc.), who rose to prominence, sans the cap-bustin', calling-women-"b*%&#), and yakking on end about money.
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Actually, Common and Mos Def are both actors and movie stars (the former, starring in the recently-released movie, "Just Wright", a romantic comedy, in which he plays a basketball player). Plus, Common hasn't exactly left hip-hop (he's been around for over 20 years). It was just a year and half ago, he released an album, "Universal Mind Control", with a smash hit of the same title.
I feel you..but i like Jeezy better...
But that shit called "testify" from common was dope as shit
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This is the reason cha cha...Fox makes "news" (oh brother) sensational. CSPAN is boring to Americans because they are impartial and full of information. Fox "news" (holy christ) is simply full of stories with far out opinions. The sad part is this, Hannity, Beck etc dont even believe their own shit...its entertainment....not news...but idiots take it as gosepel. Thats it and thats all..
with their reports "some people are saying that obama blah blaqh" ...you cant fact check that..but its a way to get an opinion out....
Jesus h christ am i fearful for MY country...when Fox "news" (for the love of God) is the source of information.. we have an extreme issue on our hands
Dude that's just flat out not true. What Fox News programming do you watch?
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He's competing (if you can call it that) against Chris Matthews (Harball) and Wolf Blitzer (The Situation Room). And he's KILLING THEM!!!
Ah so. Thanks. So after the organized boycotts, loss of sponsors, and loss of viewers, he's still kicking MSNBC and CNN's butt. lol. . . .
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Dude that's just flat out not true. What Fox News programming do you watch?
really...fuckin really....get the fuck out of here
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really...fuckin really....get the fuck out of here
Is that real??? :o
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Is that real??? :o
yes...it sure is...
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really...fuckin really....get the fuck out of here
What Fox News Programming do you watch?
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yes...it sure is...
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Actually, Common and Mos Def are both actors and movie stars (the former, starring in the recently-released movie, "Just Wright", a romantic comedy, in which he plays a basketball player). Plus, Common hasn't exactly left hip-hop (he's been around for over 20 years). It was just a year and half ago, he released an album, "Universal Mind Control", with a smash hit of the same title.
And, as far as message rap goes, it appears you've forgotten about groups like Public Enemy. Not to mention the laundry list of hip-hop icons (Will Smith, MC Hammer, LL Cool J, Heavy D, etc.), who rose to prominence, sans the cap-bustin', calling-women-"b*%&#), and yakking on end about money.
Will Smith,hammer,heavy d?Are you kidding me?Will Smith is such a joke as far as rap music goes that Family guy mocks the hell out of him.Public enemy was a ground breaking group,but werent they the group that put out the song WELCOME TO THE TERROR DOME?Didnt that song insult jews,talk of shooting people in retaliation for the death of Huey Newton?They were considered pretty violent for the time.
Now,I agree with Mal on one thing,you cant compare someone like Common to Jeezy.There just isnt a comparrison and Jeezy isnt teaching lessons unless those lessons are on mixing drugs in your apartment.
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What Fox News Programming do you watch?
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see...the picture i posted was real Fox Screen Cap...you should be embarassed to endorse such a news outlet
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BILLY,
beck was averaging 3 million viewers last summer.
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/08/27/big-beck-goes-over-3-million-viewers-beats-oreilly-in-demo-cable-news-ratings-for-wednesday-august-26-2009/25541
so that summer heat theory.... nah
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see...the picture i posted was real Fox Screen Cap...you should be embarassed to endorse such a news outlet
I dont watch Fox News but for a few minutes here and there at best. I watch YES network and maybe some CNBC and Spike when UFC is on.
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You left wingers really crack me up.
I just posted a verified story about the US govt paying a radical mosque 23,000 a month and you sit here and want to discuss Fox News, Beck and Palin?
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I find it literally amazing that almost every thread on here devolves into a talk about Palin now. As if everything is OK because Palin exists. It's ridiculous. Who fucking cares about her? I think the far-left spends more time talking and worrying about her than most people on the right do.
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"I just posted a verified story about the US govt paying a radical mosque 23,000 a month and you sit here and want to discuss Fox News, Beck and Palin? "
LOL... Kinda like the NRA thread about Palin and beck which derailed into a ton of 911 CT challenges... these things happen on getbig.
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I find it literally amazing that almost every thread on here devolves into a talk about Palin now. As if everything is OK because Palin exists. It's ridiculous. Who fucking cares about her? I think the far-left spends more time talking and worrying about her than most people on the right do.
i spend time worrying about that picture of the naked broad jumping around
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I find it literally amazing that almost every thread on here devolves into a talk about Palin now. As if everything is OK because Palin exists. It's ridiculous. Who fucking cares about her? I think the far-left spends more time talking and worrying about her than most people on the right do.
Bashing Beck and Palin is the way these loons avoid discussing the issues on the merits.
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Will Smith,hammer,heavy d?Are you kidding me?Will Smith is such a joke as far as rap music goes that Family guy mocks the hell out of him.Public enemy was a ground breaking group,but werent they the group that put out the song WELCOME TO THE TERROR DOME?Didnt that song insult jews,talk of shooting people in retaliation for the death of Huey Newton?They were considered pretty violent for the time.
Now,I agree with Mal on one thing,you cant compare someone like Common to Jeezy.There just isnt a comparrison and Jeezy isnt teaching lessons unless those lessons are on mixing drugs in your apartment.
Smith helped bring hip-hop to the mainstream (and made a killing in the process), leading to his acting and directing career as well. And, it all started with him as the "Fresh Prince".
As for Hammer, 20 years ago, he was THE TOP GUY in the business. "U Can't Touch This" was the runaway SMASH that propelled him to megastardom. And for all their criticism, many of these "gangsta rappers" rode his coattails to mainstream success. What I find ironic is that for all the talk about giving back to the community, Hammer was one of the few that actually did it, unfortunately to his detriment (he tried to take every kid from Oakland who could half-sing or dance or play an instrument on tour with him).
The rappers who are doing commercials, taking ownership in sports franchises, etc. today are simply doing what Hammer did back then. Yet, he got called a "sellout".
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I find it literally amazing that almost every thread on here devolves into a talk about Palin now. As if everything is OK because Palin exists. It's ridiculous. Who fucking cares about her? I think the far-left spends more time talking and worrying about her than most people on the right do.
The left gets tied in knots about her, because FOR DECADES, they have painted the ultimate 20th/21st century woman, as a bra-burning, pro-choice, career-at-all-costs, feminist.
Palin smashes that vision to pieces. She's professionally accomplished; yet, she's a homemaker. She can bring home the bacon (or moose).....LITERALLY, FROM SCRATCH!!
She's definitely a polarizing figure. People either hate her guts or absolutely adore her.
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BILLY,
beck was averaging 3 million viewers last summer.
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/08/27/big-beck-goes-over-3-million-viewers-beats-oreilly-in-demo-cable-news-ratings-for-wednesday-august-26-2009/25541
so that summer heat theory.... nah
Is he kicking the living shit out of EVERY SINGLE host on MSNBC?Yes or no?Is he beating the living hell out of your hero Maddow?Is she on on prime time?Yes or no?How are HER ratings this summer compared to last summer?How is CNNs rating this year compared to last year?So,each of the three 24 hour new networks have dropped but FOX is still kicking the living shit out of the other two and Beck is tea bagging Maddow and Olbermann EVERY fucking day of the week.
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/zontv/2009/04/rachel_maddow_msnbc.html
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/27/msnbcs-rachel-maddow-show-ratings-hit-lowest-level-ever/31678
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2010/02/04/msnbc-execs-scramble-defend-olbermann-countdown-ratings-decline
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2010/02/04/msnbc-execs-scramble-defend-olbermann-countdown-ratings-decline
So,UNTIL the losers on MSNBC can get ANYONE to watch their shitty ass shows or CNN can get even 300,000 people watching I wouldnt worry much about Beck as he kicks the holy hell out of your lib icons EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DAY OF THE WEEK!!!
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Is he kicking the living shit out of EVERY SINGLE host on MSNBC?Yes or no?Is he beating the living hell out of your hero Maddow?Is she on on prime time?Yes or no?How are HER ratings this summer compared to last summer?How is CNNs rating this year compared to last year?So,each of the three 24 hour new networks have dropped but FOX is still kicking the living shit out of the other two and Beck is tea bagging Maddow and Olbermann EVERY fucking day of the week.
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/zontv/2009/04/rachel_maddow_msnbc.html
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/27/msnbcs-rachel-maddow-show-ratings-hit-lowest-level-ever/31678
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2010/02/04/msnbc-execs-scramble-defend-olbermann-countdown-ratings-decline
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2010/02/04/msnbc-execs-scramble-defend-olbermann-countdown-ratings-decline
So,UNTIL the losers on MSNBC can get ANYONE to watch their shitty ass shows or CNN can get even 300,000 people watching I wouldnt worry much about Beck as he kicks the holy hell out of your lib icons EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DAY OF THE WEEK!!!
Bill O'Reilly's been giving Olbermann the "Rodney King" treatment for nearly a decade. Campbell Brown just quit, for getting much the same treatment during her short tenure.
Why do you think liberals keep wailing about the "Fairness Doctrine"? They want to hitch their wagons to shows that actually MAKE A PROFIT, not bleed like a stuck pig.
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i spend time worrying about that picture of the naked broad jumping around
You're a Y boarder at heart. ;D
Bashing Beck and Palin is the way these loons avoid discussing the issues on the merits.
Really does seem to be the case.
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youre changing the subject to maddow, billy.
you made the point that 'ratings drop in summer'.
I showed you that his ratings were awesome last summer, and much lower this summer.
your response of "they still kick msnbc's ass" is something I'd expect from a middle schooler who hasn't taken a debate class dude.
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youre changing the subject to maddow, billy.
you made the point that 'ratings drop in summer'.
I showed you that his ratings were awesome last summer, and much lower this summer.
your response of "they still kick msnbc's ass" is something I'd expect from a middle schooler who hasn't taken a debate class dude.
Beck's higher ratings last year may have more to do with the genesis of the Tea Party and those town hall meetings, where people were cursing out their congressmen and senators over, what is now ObamaCare.
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youre changing the subject to maddow, billy.
you made the point that 'ratings drop in summer'.
I showed you that his ratings were awesome last summer, and much lower this summer.
your response of "they still kick msnbc's ass" is something I'd expect from a middle schooler who hasn't taken a debate class dude.
You have very selective reading there.I will give you the point that I was wrong about the summer ,but if you read my post I also said "there is no election on the horizon".Funny,you missed that.So,the reason of warm weather may have been wrong,but considering the other three networks have plummetted as well,my election reason sure seem to hold up,wouldnt you agree?
You say the reason is that people arent angry at Obama anymore or health care thats why its dropped.But the call for Obama care to be repealed has INCREASED so it would seem your reasoning is flawed as well.
"This thread is really dumb.As the weather heats up,ratings will always drop for news programs.They will ESPECIALLY drop when there isnt an election on the horizon.Beck is on at 5 pm,its warm out,people get home at 5 and instead of watching television they go outside.However,once again,compare his ratings to his rivals.Its not even close."
Now,since this is the post your commenting on,I clearly MADE THE POINT THAT WHILE HIS RATINGS HAVE DROPPED HE IS STILL ABSOLUTELY KILLING every msnbc HOST AT every HOUR OF THE DAY!Do you have a response for that point.It would seem to me if people didnt hate Obama and loved libs their ratings would be going up,not down at a faster rate then Becks.
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What Fox News programming do you watch?
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of course he's killing msnbc.
more repubs watch fox.
more repubs are retired and have time to watch tv more hours.
more young people are dems
more young people prefer idiot sitcomes to cable news.
If ratings actually equated to popular opinion, it would have been Mccain winning by a shitload in 2008. The avergae repub is MUCH more likely to watch cable news than the average dem. it's that simple. Age and interests and available time.
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What Fox News programming do you watch?
Ive watched glen beck and hannity
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Ive watched glen beck and hannity
Why? Hannity is boorrriinngg.
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Why? Hannity is boorrriinngg.
i like listening to the bullshit he spews
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Why? He is unwatchable to me. Why waste the time?
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Beck is destroying his competition as usual:
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/
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of course he's killing msnbc.
more repubs watch fox.
more repubs are retired and have time to watch tv more hours.
more young people are dems
more young people prefer idiot sitcomes to cable news.
If ratings actually equated to popular opinion, it would have been Mccain winning by a shitload in 2008. The avergae repub is MUCH more likely to watch cable news than the average dem. it's that simple. Age and interests and available time.
YOU ALWAYS USE THIS ARGUMENT AND ITS WITHOUT A DOUBT THE DUMBEST ONE YOU HAVE.
lETS SEE,msnbc,cnn,cbs,nbc,abc,cnn headline news,the new york times,the la times,the washington post,the ny daily news,pretty much every single newspaper in the country,newsweek,time magazine, etc etc etc vs. FOX.
Yes good point.FOX news vs. all other tv stations,including stuff like MTV and ESPN almost every newspaper in the country,almost all mainstrem magazines in the country and they should have been able to battle all that and have gotten McCain elected.Super thinking,great point.
Now as for your other points,more democrats are unemployed and lazy ass do nothings who have no where to go and watch tv all day and night.So,MSNBC and their hip hosts should easily rule the day.I thought republicans were redneck idiots and democrats were deep thinking people with higher educations.Why would such a bright group of people watch sitcoms?
The bottom line is FOX kicks those other networks ass' because their hosts are a MILLION times better.No one like whinny ass bitches like Mathews spitting all over their tv screens or big fat blowhards like Shultz trying to use his big boy voice to show he is a tough guy or a little fem screaming "he is the worst person in the world" or that same guy in drag trying to use his/her big boy voice and thinking the deeper he/she speaks the more intelligent he/she sounds.
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Ive watched glen beck and hannity
Mal those are opinion shows. The news portion on Fox News is reporting, for the most part. I don't watch the opinion shows that much, but I watch CNN and Fox (and ESPN) every morning. There really isn't much difference between the two in terms of what they cover.
If you're going to watch opinion shows, you should try Greta and Megyn Kelly on Fox. They're both very good.
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YOU ALWAYS USE THIS ARGUMENT AND ITS WITHOUT A DOUBT THE DUMBEST ONE YOU HAVE.
You always say that, and despite their awesome numbers in 2008, the candidates they backed lost miserably.
So argue it if you wish. But if you refuse to admit their demo is way diff from MSNBC viewers, well, so be it.
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I agree with Billy. Pretty bad argument. Fox beats CNN and MSNBC because they produce better programming that appeals to a broader group of people.
Just look at all of the CNN news/opinion folks who left and went to Fox.
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http://articles.latimes.com/2009/nov/25/opinion/la-oe-rutten25-2009nov25 (http://articles.latimes.com/2009/nov/25/opinion/la-oe-rutten25-2009nov25)
Who's watching Glenn Beck?
Much like the Depression-era demagogue Father Charles Coughlin, the Fox News personality is promoting a mass movement. Should his bosses be pulling the plug?
For nearly a century, the Anti-Defamation League has stared unflinchingly into the dark corners of America's social psyche -- the places where combustible tendencies such as hatred and paranoia pool and, sometimes, burst into flame.
As a Jewish organization, the ADL's first preoccupation naturally is anti-Semitism, but in the last few decades it has extended its scrutiny to the whole range of bigoted malevolence -- white supremacy, the militia movement, neo-nativism and conspiratorial fantasies in all of their improbable permutations. These days, the organization's research is characterized by the sense of proportion and sobriety that long experience brings.
That makes its recent report on the extremist groups and propagandists that have emerged since President Obama's election -- "Rage Grows In America: Anti-Government Conspiracies" -- particularly notable. For the first time in living memory, the ADL is sounding the alarm about a mainstream media personality: Fox News' Glenn Beck, who also hosts a popular radio show.
The report notes that while "other conservative media hosts, such as Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity, routinely attack Obama and his administration, typically on partisan grounds, they have usually dismissed or refused to give a platform to the conspiracy theorists and anti-government extremists." By contrast, "Beck and his guests have made a habit of demonizing President Obama and promoting conspiracy theories about his administration. ... Beck has even gone so far as to make comparisons between Hitler and Obama."
What gives all of this nonsense an ominous twist is Beck's announcement that he intends to use his TV and radio shows to promote a mass movement that will involve voter registration drives, training in community organizing and a series of regional conventions that will produce a "100-year plan" for America to be read from the steps of the Lincoln Memorial to a mass rally Aug. 28.
As Beck wrote on his website, "I know that the bipartisan corruption in Washington that has brought us to this brink and it will not be defeated easily. It will require unconventional thinking and a radical plan to restore our nation to the maximum freedoms we were supposed to have been protecting. ... All of the above will culminate in The Plan, a book that will provide specific policies, principles and, most importantly, action steps that each of us can take to play a role in this Refounding."
Hard times predictably throw up their demagogues. Still, even allowing for the frenetic pace of our wired world's 24-hour news cycle, it's remarkable how quickly the arc of Beck's career has come to resemble that of the Great Depression's uber-demagogue, Father Charles Coughlin. In the months after the crash of '29, Coughlin turned what had been a conventionally religious weekly radio broadcast into a platform for championing the downtrodden working man. He was an early supporter of the New Deal, coining the slogan "Roosevelt or Ruin," but quickly turned on the president for a variety of complex ideological and personal reasons. Coughlin flirted with Huey Long, launched an unsuccessful political party, published a popular newspaper, Social Justice, and even inspired and supported a kind of militia, the Christian Front, some of whose members were arrested by the FBI and charged with plotting a fascist coup.
As the 1930s dragged on, Coughlin, a longtime admirer of Francisco Franco, became virulently anti-Semitic, isolationist and pro-German. He also was extraordinarily popular. At their height, his weekly broadcasts attracted more than 40 million listeners. Still, after he lashed out at German Jews in the wake of Kristallnacht, many major urban radio stations dropped his program. Influential American prelates, the Vatican and prominent Catholic New Dealers had worked for some time to persuade Coughlin's superior, the archbishop of Detroit, to silence him. Shortly before the U.S. entered World War II, a new bishop was installed, and Coughlin was ordered to cease broadcasting. He accepted the clerical discipline and retired into a long life of bitter silence.
It's hard to imagine any contemporary cable system dropping Fox News simply because Beck is an offensively dangerous demagogue -- not with his ratings at least. His new foray into politics, though, presents Rupert Murdoch's network with a profound challenge. Is it willing to become the platform for an extremist political campaign, or will it draw a line as even the authoritarian Catholic Church of the 1940s did? CNN recently parted ways with its resident ranter, Lou Dobbs -- who now confirms he's weighing a presidential bid.
Does Fox see a similar problem with Beck -- and, if not, why?
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Who's watching Glenn Beck?
A whole lot more people than are watching CNN and MSNBC.
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Cry me a river danny. The left wing marxists hate beck because he has single handidly exposed the faux messiah for what he is- a radical leftist who surrounds himself with criminals, communists, creeps, corrupt pols, and other fringe elements of society.
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But why do I hate the guy?
I'm hardly a leftist or a marxist... I just find him annoying.
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i like beck a lot. his radio show is way better than the live show, IMO.
the 'goldline' scandal is silly... media all over him because his advertiser marks up gold 90%... so what. if ppl are willing ot pay, so be it. Is it a conflict when he talks about how gold is the only safe investment for 30 minutes... then he runs goldline commercials? I do not think so. If you're dumb enough to pay 90% over cost, that's your own fault. MSNBC shows tampon commericals, same thing right?
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http://articles.latimes.com/2009/nov/25/opinion/la-oe-rutten25-2009nov25 (http://articles.latimes.com/2009/nov/25/opinion/la-oe-rutten25-2009nov25)
Who's watching Glenn Beck?
Much like the Depression-era demagogue Father Charles Coughlin, the Fox News personality is promoting a mass movement. Should his bosses be pulling the plug?
For nearly a century, the Anti-Defamation League has stared unflinchingly into the dark corners of America's social psyche -- the places where combustible tendencies such as hatred and paranoia pool and, sometimes, burst into flame.
As a Jewish organization, the ADL's first preoccupation naturally is anti-Semitism, but in the last few decades it has extended its scrutiny to the whole range of bigoted malevolence -- white supremacy, the militia movement, neo-nativism and conspiratorial fantasies in all of their improbable permutations. These days, the organization's research is characterized by the sense of proportion and sobriety that long experience brings.
That makes its recent report on the extremist groups and propagandists that have emerged since President Obama's election -- "Rage Grows In America: Anti-Government Conspiracies" -- particularly notable. For the first time in living memory, the ADL is sounding the alarm about a mainstream media personality: Fox News' Glenn Beck, who also hosts a popular radio show.
The report notes that while "other conservative media hosts, such as Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity, routinely attack Obama and his administration, typically on partisan grounds, they have usually dismissed or refused to give a platform to the conspiracy theorists and anti-government extremists." By contrast, "Beck and his guests have made a habit of demonizing President Obama and promoting conspiracy theories about his administration. ... Beck has even gone so far as to make comparisons between Hitler and Obama."
What gives all of this nonsense an ominous twist is Beck's announcement that he intends to use his TV and radio shows to promote a mass movement that will involve voter registration drives, training in community organizing and a series of regional conventions that will produce a "100-year plan" for America to be read from the steps of the Lincoln Memorial to a mass rally Aug. 28.
As Beck wrote on his website, "I know that the bipartisan corruption in Washington that has brought us to this brink and it will not be defeated easily. It will require unconventional thinking and a radical plan to restore our nation to the maximum freedoms we were supposed to have been protecting. ... All of the above will culminate in The Plan, a book that will provide specific policies, principles and, most importantly, action steps that each of us can take to play a role in this Refounding."
Hard times predictably throw up their demagogues. Still, even allowing for the frenetic pace of our wired world's 24-hour news cycle, it's remarkable how quickly the arc of Beck's career has come to resemble that of the Great Depression's uber-demagogue, Father Charles Coughlin. In the months after the crash of '29, Coughlin turned what had been a conventionally religious weekly radio broadcast into a platform for championing the downtrodden working man. He was an early supporter of the New Deal, coining the slogan "Roosevelt or Ruin," but quickly turned on the president for a variety of complex ideological and personal reasons. Coughlin flirted with Huey Long, launched an unsuccessful political party, published a popular newspaper, Social Justice, and even inspired and supported a kind of militia, the Christian Front, some of whose members were arrested by the FBI and charged with plotting a fascist coup.
As the 1930s dragged on, Coughlin, a longtime admirer of Francisco Franco, became virulently anti-Semitic, isolationist and pro-German. He also was extraordinarily popular. At their height, his weekly broadcasts attracted more than 40 million listeners. Still, after he lashed out at German Jews in the wake of Kristallnacht, many major urban radio stations dropped his program. Influential American prelates, the Vatican and prominent Catholic New Dealers had worked for some time to persuade Coughlin's superior, the archbishop of Detroit, to silence him. Shortly before the U.S. entered World War II, a new bishop was installed, and Coughlin was ordered to cease broadcasting. He accepted the clerical discipline and retired into a long life of bitter silence.
It's hard to imagine any contemporary cable system dropping Fox News simply because Beck is an offensively dangerous demagogue -- not with his ratings at least. His new foray into politics, though, presents Rupert Murdoch's network with a profound challenge. Is it willing to become the platform for an extremist political campaign, or will it draw a line as even the authoritarian Catholic Church of the 1940s did? CNN recently parted ways with its resident ranter, Lou Dobbs -- who now confirms he's weighing a presidential bid.
Does Fox see a similar problem with Beck -- and, if not, why?
The ADL is one of the most racist organisations in the country.Its the same one that said Mel Gibsons PASSION OF THE CHRIST was going to lead to jews getting killed in the street.After a prediction like that they have ZERO credibility.