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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Topskin69 on May 18, 2010, 09:19:25 PM
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Does anyone know whatever happened with this. Clearly Bob was never demoted, but did he get into any kind of heat over this?
"Dear Mr. Jim Manion:
I have just received my issue of the Flex October 2005 edition. To my surprise and dismay I read the most insulting and degrading article; �Chick on Chicks� by no other than the Men's Representative Bob Cicherillo. In my 14 years as an IFBB Pro I have never read nor heard any IFBB Pro Female bash her male counter part. What is more disappointing the article states these comments are from the �athlete's rep.� Can you imagine someone, perhaps a fan reading what the �athlete's rep� thinks about his female counterparts/competitors??
This is unacceptable! Because of this, I am putting forth my formal complaint to the IFBB Pro Division, AMI (American Media Inc.), Flex Magazine Editor in Chief Peter McGough and Flex Magazine President David Pecker, regarding the slanderous, abusive remarks made by the IFBB Pro Men's Division Representative, Bob Cicherillo. My complaint stands on the grounds of the following: Please see IFBB Professional Rules 2005 Edition #14.6.
I hope you all take the time to understand where I am coming from as well as many other Pro Female Bodybuilders and review the seriousness of this letter and Bob Cicherillo's actions/comments. Professional female bodybuilding is already at a decline with having suffered many blows from lack in prize money, coverage, and very few shows leaving the most prestigious show (MS. O) to be demoted to a Expo hall event.
With that being said, I understand that you and/or our male bodybuilding counterparts may not like how female bodybuilders look or what we do. This is a right of anyone to hold there individual opinion. But it does not give anyone the right to speak about a group of Female Professional Athletes, some whom have competed in the IFBB there entire adult lives, as a whole and slander there names, physiques, or there looks of being to manly. All we ask for is the same respect and support you give our male counterparts and DO NOT ALLOW such abusive statements to be published in a National sold magazine.
As a result I am requesting Bob Cicherillo's termination of his current Men's Athletes Representative position and the most stringent disciplinary action to be taken immediately. Sincerely,
Nancy Lewis
Female IFBB Pro"
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Bob spoke the truth. Women's bodybuilding at the highest level is nothing more then an unpopular tranny show that has gone to the toilet.
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As a result I am requesting Bob Cicherillo's termination of his current Men's Athletes Representative position and the most stringent disciplinary action to be taken immediately. Sincerely,
Nancy Lewis
Female IFBB Pro"
He speaks the truth and she's seven shades of hurt about it. Professional female bodybuilding is pretty gross. Only female professional bodybuilders and schmoes enjoy it. Their creepy schmoe websites should be where it ends. It's nothing for the general public to see. In mens bodybuilding there is the gut. In female bodybuilding... their is everything from physical features to their goatlike voices. There are some decent female pro bodybuilders but the creepy manly ones ruin it for them.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8IUsyoeCzRs/SkGlo_H162I/AAAAAAAAEng/K46Kv0oLMuU/s400/MS_DavisMichelle_2004%5B1%5D.jpg)
(http://www.strangesports.com/images/content/134731.jpg)
(http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/a-women-bodybuilder-trainwreck-16.jpg)
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Well, lets not forget Nancy's Picture
(http://www.frsa.com/pixfemuscle/lewis3.jpg)
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fucking sickening girl.....know you role and shut your hole
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You can't have the criteria for a "Sport," or really much else for that matter, be determined by sexual appeal.
Thus is the major problem with a lot of criticism aimed towards female BB. They work just as hard, diet, and everything else as the men do and should be afforded the same respect. It is irrelevant if you want to fuck most of the competitors or not, that should have nothing to do with it.
Nancy brings up a good point, in that if you don't like female Bodybuilding that is fine, but a representative for the sport, (in this case Male Athletes rep Bob Chick) should remain professional, and not divisive when it comes to his female counterparts.
There is plenty to mock and scorn about Bodybuilding both male and female, and Bob is did not do the industry any favors by that article or his caviler attitude towards female BB in general.
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Also I am waiting for confirmation in another thread, but Bob may have a sister that is involved in bodybuilding.
Here is Kimberly Chicherllio, from Rochester NY. She is an amateur competitive bodybuilder, and kickboxer. does Bob disapprove of her being in Bodybuilding. ???
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Also I am waiting for confirmation in another thread, but Bob may have a sister that is involved in bodybuilding.
Here is Kimberly Chicherllio, from Rochester NY. She is an amateur competitive bodybuilder, and kickboxer. does Bob disapprove of her being in Bodybuilding. ???
nice rack
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Ok...so apparently she is not Bob's sister, but rather his Cousin.
Bob does not approve of her bodybuilding.
Does this make for awkward family reunions?
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Ok...so apparently she is not Bob's sister, but rather his Cousin.
Bob does not approve of her bodybuilding.
Does this make for awkward family reunions?
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Wrong. Its actually Bob's first wife. Thats a fact!
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Wrong. Its actually Bob's first wife. Thats a fact!
Really?
If this is true then Bob just told a flat out lie. Why would you just tell a blatant lie Bob?
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Really?
If this is true then Bob just told a flat out lie. Why would you just tell a blatant lie Bob?
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What? Bob lie? Say it isn't so...
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Really?
If this is true then Bob just told a flat out lie. Why would you just tell a blatant lie Bob?
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I'm pretty sure I know my family......why would you put one shread of credability into a putz on the internet?
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Also I am waiting for confirmation in another thread, but Bob may have a sister that is involved in bodybuilding.
Here is Kimberly Chicherllio, from Rochester NY. She is an amateur competitive bodybuilder, and kickboxer. does Bob disapprove of her being in Bodybuilding. ???
Something's not quite right about that rack.
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Getbig is serious business.
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Chick is just jealous because those
women get more ripped than his water retaining self ever could
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Chick is just jealous because those women get more ripped than his water retaining self ever could
Bob holds more water than the gulf of mexico, and his 'friends' are just as oily ..
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Bob holds more water than the gulf of mexico, and his 'friends' are just as oily ..
;D ;D ;D
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You can't have the criteria for a "Sport," or really much else for that matter, be determined by sexual appeal.
Thus is the major problem with a lot of criticism aimed towards female BB. They work just as hard, diet, and everything else as the men do and should be afforded the same respect. It is irrelevant if you want to fuck most of the competitors or not, that should have nothing to do with it.
Nancy brings up a good point, in that if you don't like female Bodybuilding that is fine, but a representative for the sport, (in this case Male Athletes rep Bob Chick) should remain professional, and not divisive when it comes to his female counterparts.
There is plenty to mock and scorn about Bodybuilding both male and female, and Bob is did not do the industry any favors by that article or his caviler attitude towards female BB in general.
Herein lies the problem! Bodybuilding is its own unique animal. It is judged by APPEARANCE. Nobody will wonder what gender Ronnie Coleman or Jay Cutler is. Nobody's going to think that Toney Freeman looks like a girl.
As for the female IFBB pros.....that's another issue altogether.
Chick merely states the blatantly obvious: People, by and large, don't want to see, the female bodybuilders, because 80% (and that's being gracious) hardly look female, even with those ridiculous, soccer-ball breast implants. The Ms. Olympia contest can't even sustain itself anymore. It used to be a show all by itself, usually held months before or after the Mr. Olympia. They merged the contests, because the "ladies" competition kept hemmorhaging cash.
Heck, look at the FLEX website. They're doing a contest to see which swimsuit cover is the best of all time. FLEX has been doing this for 15 years, yet only ONE cover features any IFBB pro bodybuilders (let alone Ms. Olympia). That's the first one, that has then-6-time Ms. Os, Cory Everson and Lenda Murray (and Murray's pushing it, size-wise). It also features 1991 IFBB North American Champion, Sharon Bruneau; but by that time that first swimsuit cover arrived, she'd already switched to fitness, scaling down in size along with the customary boob job.
What are the odds that Iris Kyle will be featured in the next lingerie or swimsuit issue? What are the odds that she will have her legs wrapped around Jay Cutler, cheesing with him on FLEX's cover, should they retain their respective titles this fall?
How come we didn't see Yaxeni Garcia, being given the fireman's carry by Ronnie, back in 2005?
The downscaling's been happening over the last decade and a half. The bodybuilders were dropped for the fitness girls. But, as they got "too big", and fitness became dominated by ladies with heavy-duty gymnast backgrounds, they got replaced with figure (don't just do something; stand there!!) girls.
Now, even figure girls are deemed TOO BIG. Hence, he have the bikini contests. They'll phase out the figure girls. Heck, the average guy think Monica Brant-Peckham "looks like a dude" (I've overheard guys says that at the magazine rack, while I was MuscleMag and IronMan).
It's gone full circle. The fitness competitors broke their necks (almost literally, in some cases) to prove that they were legitimate athletes. Now, with the advent of bikini shows, many have ended up being what their critics said they were from the get-go, when fitness show began: T&A girls.
If figure and fitness girls are too big, Ms. Olympia competitors look like ro-beasts.
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I'm pretty sure I know my family......why would you put one shread of credability into a putz on the internet?
Fair enough Bob. I will give you the benefit of the doubt, and believe you that she is your cousin. Now on to the more serious issue... Do you approve of her being involved in Bodybuilding? How does she feel about your attitude towards it, or if she doesn't know, how would she feel knowing that you don't respect it?
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Fair enough Bob. I will give you the benefit of the doubt, and believe you that she is your cousin. Now on to the more serious issue... Do you approve of her being involved in Bodybuilding? How does she feel about your attitude towards it, or if she doesn't know, how would she feel knowing that you don't respect it?
You would have to ask her...I'm sure she is well aware of my opinions on the matter. She's not a pro by any stretch, and her main goals have been with losing weight and being in better shape overall...
Thanks for giving me the "benefit of the doubt" on who is/ isnt my own family ::)
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Also I am waiting for confirmation in another thread, but Bob may have a sister that is involved in bodybuilding.
Here is Kimberly Chicherllio, from Rochester NY. She is an amateur competitive bodybuilder, and kickboxer. does Bob disapprove of her being in Bodybuilding. ???
That shirt makes her look like she has pusffy nipples...
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You would have to ask her...I'm sure she is well aware of my opinions on the matter. She's not a pro by any stretch, and her main goals have been with losing weight and being in better shape overall...
Thanks for giving me the "benefit of the doubt" on who is/ isnt my own family ::)
You roll your eyes Chick, but you have been so disingenuous about a whole slew of issues in the past, it is hard to really put a lot of faith in anything you say.
Not trying to be a dick, but that is the truth.
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You roll your eyes Chick, but you have been so disingenuous about a whole slew of issues in the past, it is hard to really put a lot of faith in anything you say.
Not trying to be a dick, but that is the truth.
No it's not...it's the same shit as this moron coming here saying she's my ex wife...completely fabricated, and untrue. I've been disingenuous with nothing. No reason to be. What you choose to believe is up to you, but it doesn't mean I'm lying...
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No it's not...it's the same shit as this moron coming here saying she's my ex wife...completely fabricated, and untrue. I've been disingenuous with nothing. No reason to be. What you choose to believe is up to you, but it doesn't mean I'm lying...
I believe you about the family thing. There is no reason for you to lie about something like that.
As for everything else... "Just because I am not telling the truth, doesn't mean I am not lying," is probably a better way to describe what you just said.
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right....
Whatever makes your case
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right....
Whatever makes your case
Hmm..
Ok. I will simply go off into a fantasy world where you haven't lied about your drug use on this board, or haven't lied about never breaking any laws to compete as a bodybuilder, or that you cant remember the entire Humalog fiasco you were in a year ago around here.
Or lying about site injecting your arms, or seemingly never knowing anything about the evils of this industry, or what Tom Prince was up to, etc etc...on and on and on.
You don't to tell a direct flat out lie to be disingenuous Bob. Being misleading, even if you don't directly lie, is still dishonest.
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Hmm..
Ok. I will simply go off into a fantasy world where you haven't lied about your drug use on this board, or haven't lied about never breaking any laws to compete as a bodybuilder, or that you cant remember the entire Humalog fiasco you were in a year ago around here.
Or lying about site injecting your arms, or seemingly never knowing anything about the evils of this industry, or what Tom Prince was up to, etc etc...on and on and on.
You don't to tell a direct flat out lie to be disingenuous Bob. Being misleading, even if you don't directly lie, is still dishonest.
I havent lied about any drug use (or non use) on this board or anywhere else for that matter. Whether or not I CHOOSE to not disclose what I did exactly, so as to not provide a BLUEPRINT...is not lying. I dont remember owing you, or anyone else an explanation for that matter
As for any "fiasco's"...never was one. Again, what you choose to believe or not is not my problem, but to claim im flat out lying is being disingenuous
I've never site injected my arms, never used synthol, or many of the other things I've been accused of by people who wouldnt have a clue one wqay or another...
I guess the bottom line is...who the fuck are you?
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I havent lied about any drug use (or non use) on this board or anywhere else for that matter. Whether or not I CHOOSE to not disclose what I did exactly, so as to not provide a BLUEPRINT...is not lying. I dont remember owing you, or anyone else an explanation for that matter
As for any "fiasco's"...never was one. Again, what you choose to believe or not is not my problem, but to claim im flat out lying is being disingenuous
I've never site injected my arms, never used synthol, or many of the other things I've been accused of by people who wouldnt have a clue one wqay or another...
I guess the bottom line is...who the fuck are you?
cool chick,,,to the point
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I've met Kim...really nice woman.
She tried to hide the fact that she was related to Chick, though. ;)
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I havent lied about any drug use (or non use) on this board or anywhere else for that matter. Whether or not I CHOOSE to not disclose what I did exactly, so as to not provide a BLUEPRINT...is not lying. I dont remember owing you, or anyone else an explanation for that matter
As for any "fiasco's"...never was one. Again, what you choose to believe or not is not my problem, but to claim im flat out lying is being disingenuous
I've never site injected my arms, never used synthol, or many of the other things I've been accused of by people who wouldnt have a clue one wqay or another...
I guess the bottom line is...who the fuck are you?
Hey, don't talk to foreskin69 like that Bob. He'll join forces with Nancy. ;D
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Well, lets not forget Nancy's Picture
(http://www.frsa.com/pixfemuscle/lewis3.jpg)
And she wonders why women's pro bodybuilding is on the decline? Cut her hair, and she's a men's lightweight/middleweight competitor.
If female bodybuilders were more like the "tweeners" (Renita Harris, 1995 Team Universe champ; Debbie Kruck, Mia Finnegan; ABA Ms. Universe), business will pick up.
Otherwise, the only magazine publisher that's going to give them any play is with Denise Masino. And I don't think most of the IFBB gals want to go that route.
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I have an episode of American Muscle, which covered the 1994 Jan Tana Classic, in which Ms. Lewis placed 2nd again, this time to Denise Rutkowski (aka "The White Lenda Murray"), who was fresh off her USA championship win 1993.