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MIAMI (AP) -- Disgraced U.S. cyclist Floyd Landis revealed new cheating allegations in a series of messages to sponsors and officials, alleging that former teammate Lance Armstrong not only joined him in doping but taught others how to beat the system and paid an official to keep a failed test quiet.
Landis admitted for the first time what had long been suspected -- that he was guilty of doping for several years before being stripped of his 2006 Tour de France title.
His fresh accusations, contained in e-mails sent last month, prompted Armstrong to hold an impromptu press conference on Thursday before he began the fifth stage of the Tour of California in Visalia.
"If you said, 'Give me one word to sum this all up,' credibility," the seven-time Tour de France winner said. "Floyd lost his credibility a long time ago.
"We have nothing to hide. We have nothing to run from," said Armstrong, who later quit the race after crashing just outside of Visalia, California. Team spokesman Philippe Maertens told The Associated Press that Armstrong got stitches in the left elbow and under the left eye.
Though Landis lost his title, he denied cheating until now, and his recent e-mails detail his blood doping.
"I want to clear my conscience," Landis told ESPN.com. "I don't want to be part of the problem any more."
He claims that Armstrong and longtime coach Johan Bruyneel paid an International Cycling Union official to cover-up a test in 2002 after Armstrong purportedly tested positive for the blood-boosting drug EPO. The UCI, however, denied changing or concealing a positive test result.
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Snitches. Yeah, we know, we just don't need to "know", the public is happy in pretending in it's ignorance. This is like a whore coming out from a whorehouse announce that she is a whore. "we Know, why would you be in a whorehouse"
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i dont know if i agree with his motives, because he is lying, he just wants revenge........and if he is looking for revenge, he should just say "im looking for revenge"
partly i cannot blame him.....he got crucified and humiliated and lost his livelihood while EVERYONE, specifically lance armstrong did the EXACT same thing....yet is treated like a national hero.......no one was there sticking up for floyd, so fuck them all
every top cyclist is doing this shit, so to single out one guy as th ebeast of burdon is awful
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Cyclists use drugs ??? :o
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Didn't Armstrong fail a drug test back in the day?
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MIAMI (AP) -- Disgraced U.S. cyclist Floyd Landis revealed new cheating allegations in a series of messages to sponsors and officials, alleging that former teammate Lance Armstrong not only joined him in doping but taught others how to beat the system and paid an official to keep a failed test quiet.
Landis admitted for the first time what had long been suspected -- that he was guilty of doping for several years before being stripped of his 2006 Tour de France title.
His fresh accusations, contained in e-mails sent last month, prompted Armstrong to hold an impromptu press conference on Thursday before he began the fifth stage of the Tour of California in Visalia.
"If you said, 'Give me one word to sum this all up,' credibility," the seven-time Tour de France winner said. "Floyd lost his credibility a long time ago.
"We have nothing to hide. We have nothing to run from," said Armstrong, who later quit the race after crashing just outside of Visalia, California. Team spokesman Philippe Maertens told The Associated Press that Armstrong got stitches in the left elbow and under the left eye.
Though Landis lost his title, he denied cheating until now, and his recent e-mails detail his blood doping.
"I want to clear my conscience," Landis told ESPN.com. "I don't want to be part of the problem any more."
He claims that Armstrong and longtime coach Johan Bruyneel paid an International Cycling Union official to cover-up a test in 2002 after Armstrong purportedly tested positive for the blood-boosting drug EPO. The UCI, however, denied changing or concealing a positive test result.
HE NAMED NAMES.
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Didn't Armstrong fail a drug test back in the day?
I recall some report that his blood sample from the '99 TdF (whichever the first one that he won was) tested positive for EPO when they re-tested it in like 2006 or something like that. I don't recall the fallout.
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what a dick, why would u rat out an american hero like one ball armstrong. almost as douchey as the guy that showed the photo of Phelps smoking weed.
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Why do we care so much that professional athletes use drugs again? I think someone hitting 75 home runs or riding a bike up a mountain is pretty entertaining. If you need a pro athlete to be a rolemodel for your kid you're probably a shitty parent.
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What a fucking dick. Years after he gets busted he rolls on everyone. He should be curb stomped.
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I laughed when I heard on the radio "cycling is the dirtiest sport out there almost everyone is on something".
I thought to myself, Pro bodybuilding is the dirtiest, EVERYONE is on something.
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I laughed when I heard on the radio "cycling is the dirtiest sport out there almost everyone is on something".
I thought to myself, Pro bodybuilding is the dirtiest, EVERYONE is on something.
Well bodybuilding is not a sport so therein lies the problem with that comparison.
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I bet "Special Ed" will camp on his front yard in the hopes of putting his arms around him and do a "special Ed TV" exclusive...
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why the titus pic? hahaha
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Well bodybuilding is not a sport so therein lies the problem with that comparison.
Can I get a "BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOM"??? 8)
True that... what a joke, eh.
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hasn't armstrong been shooting test all the time legally because of his nutt cancer? that alone should disqualify him from competition imo.
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Eff 'em. Always hated Armstrong anyway. :)
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In this particular case I pretty much condone Landis' actions. Armstrong sits there like Jesus fuckin Christ on his natural throne, shitting on the ones caught. I just hope Landis has some hard evidence or that this leads to some hard evidence. Like with Ben Johnson, some are sacrificed while everyone is just as guilty. The public deserves the truth! And believe me, the public thinks Armstrong never did any drugs. At least many/most do. :D
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In this particular case I pretty much condone Landis' actions. Armstrong sits there like Jesus fuckin Christ on his natural throne, shitting on the ones caught. I just hope Landis has some hard evidence or that this leads to some hard evidence. Like with Ben Johnson, some are sacrificed while everyone is just as guilty. The public deserves the truth! And believe me, the public thinks Armstrong never did any drugs. At least many/most do. :D
Van_BillsAAS, what do you think their "stacks" look like? obviously these guys go for endurance, maybe some sprinting muscular "capability" but what beyond EPO is beneficial to them?
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Van_BillsAAS, what do you think their "stacks" look like? obviously these guys go for endurance, maybe some sprinting muscular "capability" but what beyond EPO is beneficial to them?
testosteron
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/28/sports/28iht-hormone.2325282.html
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Van_BillsAAS, what do you think their "stacks" look like? obviously these guys go for endurance, maybe some sprinting muscular "capability" but what beyond EPO is beneficial to them?
I think it's often very experimental. They try a bunch of different things they think might be beneficial, that are not on the banned lists. I mean it's hard to say what kind of difference a tiny touch of testosterone for example does between races, as far as recovery or performance on the subsequent race (Landis says they used oral Andriol or testosterone patches). "Blood doping" is still the main big thing I think. EPO or transfusions. From what I've read corticosteroids is another staple, though I don't know if they can get away with it nowadays. I assume everyone is on GH for recovery and insulin is probably popular after stages.
Historically cyclists have been very extreme, worse than bodybuilders. :D See "Pot Belge". Heroin, cocaine, valium and a bunch of different stuff all mixed into a potion. :D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_Belge
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testosteron
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/28/sports/28iht-hormone.2325282.html
Yea saw that...
Test is king as usual. I would like to give it a shot one day..
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I think it's often very experimental. They try a bunch of different things they think might be beneficial, that are not on the banned lists. I mean it's hard to say what kind of difference a tiny touch of testosterone for example does between races, as far as recovery or performance on the subsequent race (Landis says they used oral Andriol or testosterone patches). "Blood doping" is still the main big thing I think. EPO or transfusions. From what I've read corticosteroids is another staple, though I don't know if they can get away with it nowadays. I assume everyone is on GH for recovery and insulin is probably popular after stages.
Historically cyclists have been very extreme, worse than bodybuilders. :D See "Pot Belge". Heroin, cocaine, valium and a bunch of different stuff all mixed into a potion. :D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_Belge
I remember that amateur cyclist/journalist a couple of years back who "experimented" with gh and deca for informative sake... he gained 5lb in 2 weeks from the deca alone. thought it was counter intuitive at the time as mass gain would not be an "edge" while climbing Les Alpes ;D... For recovery makes sense..
GH is a given... no fucking wonder armstrong got cancer-everything (cause).. then no wonder he recovered so fast (benefit)
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2 word's carl lewis....
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When will the world grow up and realize that most major winning athletes use blood doping, aas, gh etc....
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When will the world grow up and realize that most major winning athletes use blood doping, aas, gh etc....
they know but its like pro wrestling u know its fake but u still want to believe its real.or that true,real people can play fair and still be millionaires.
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if you're a professional athlete and not doing PED's then you are not trying hard enough
Furthermore, Cycling is gonna take a lot of hits in the media the next couple of weeks
The media will deem Cycling as a "dirty sport"....fact in this matter is that all sports are "dirty" and the American media's criticism of Cycling is just a thinly concealed shot at Europe as Cycling is a VERY Euro-centric sport
bottom line- American sports writers hate French and Italian people
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Everyone talks about how "dirty" professional cycling is. I bet cycling is actually one of the cleanest sports. Seems like the athletes actually get caught and penalized frequently.
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dude spent so much money and time saying he was innocent :-\
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Hey JNN, most Europeans hate the French and the Germans as well :> But the Italians are good peoples, and in pacticular the Italian female, they gots the best the best ass in all of Europe ;)
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Everyone talks about how "dirty" professional cycling is. I bet cycling is actually one of the cleanest sports. Seems like the athletes actually get caught and penalized frequently.
I don't know about that, I think the label is pretty well deserved. Cyclists are very very hardcore. Almost put bodybuilders to shame in the hardcore department. :D
In how many sports is there an equivalent to the "Belgian Mix" that has been commonly used? You got bodybuilding and the Tom Prince and Craig Titus type guys, but what other sports? Out of the Olympic Sports it has to be the most dirty, the one with the dirtiest history.
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cycling is well known to be a drug sport... trust getbig to have no clue... ::) yes bodybuilding is so dark and underground... ::)
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cycling is well known to be a drug sport...
Controle is more severe and frequent.
In the nineties these guys drove up a mountain at 25 kmph. Nowdays the excesses have gone.
In the last decade two tour de france winners have been caught using (Landis and Rasmussen,w ho was driving in the yellow jersey when they caught him)
as well as numerous top ten guys.
Landis questioning the anti-doping agency is kind of funny since he got caught..
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He deserves "the mark of the squealer"!! ;D
(http://i19.ebayimg.com/02/i/001/33/e2/82ce_1_sbl.JPG)
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He deserves "the mark of the squealer"!! ;D
(http://i19.ebayimg.com/02/i/001/33/e2/82ce_1_sbl.JPG)
Rocky Sullivan telling the boys how it's gonna be. See? :)
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Rocky Sullivan telling the boys how it's gonna be. See? :)
You know I seriously contemplated making a post in reply to wes that said "cue dr. chimps".
No joke. You're too predictable my friend. ;D
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The Chimpster,right on cue!! :)
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Yea saw that...
Test is king as usual. I would like to give it a shot one day..
you are kidding of course?
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is EPO illegal?
are there legitimate avenues to aquire some?
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you could just tell your doctor you got a jonesin' for some erythropoietin