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http://gothamist.com/2010/05/24/obama_gets_applause_at_west_point_f.php (http://gothamist.com/2010/05/24/obama_gets_applause_at_west_point_f.php)
fair and balanced my ass ::)
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Hmmm,lets see,who would I believe,the FOX version or the White House version.Thanks I will take the FOX version and using Michael Moore simply makes me believe FOX more not less.
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compare the 45 second point on the video above to the 10:25 point on the video below.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/photos-and-video/video/president-obama-delivers-commencement-west-point
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Hmmm,lets see,who would I believe,the FOX version or the White House version.Thanks I will take the FOX version and using Michael Moore simply makes me believe FOX more not less.
thanks for pointing out that it's only due to willful ignorance of the far right that people like you remain so uninformed
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Hmmm,lets see,who would I believe,the FOX version or the White House version.Thanks I will take the FOX version and using Michael Moore simply makes me believe FOX more not less.
..wow.....just wow. It is really frightening to see/hear how much some of you guys sound just like the brainwashed people of any of the former communist countries. Truly astonishing.
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..wow.....just wow. It is really frightening to see/hear how much some of you guys sound just like the brainwashed people of any of the former communist countries. Truly astonishing.
Well lets see,Obama said he couldnt throw Rev. Wright under the bus and then threw him under the bus.He said if his stimulus bill passed UE wouldnt go past 8% its at 9.9%.He said health care reform would bend the cost it will not bend the cost.He said the health care bill wouldnt be more then 900billion,its over a trillion.He said at his inaugeration the earth would now heal itself,then we have the oil spill and the harshest winter in years.He said Kansas would win the NCAA tournament,they were out the first weekend.
Sorry,this man and his administration has proven to be liars over and over and over again.Moore is also a lying fool who has been exposed over and over again.So,it seems to me YOUR brainwashed as anything a lib writes or says is believed by you.
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BILLY, just admit FOX sucks repub d1ck, and MSN sucks liberal d1ck.
The same way MSN is demonizing everything a Rand Paul or Palin does -
FOX demonizes Obama the same way.
MSN misconstrued Paul's comments, then repeated that interpretation, even after it was very clear his opponent who made that accusation was wrong.
It seems pretty clear that FOX may have edited sound - the applause does disappear in the 2 spots where it originally was present on the tape.
Nothing wrong with admitting FOX got caught here. Both networks do this shit every day. We probably catch 10% of it.
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BILLY, just admit FOX sucks repub d1ck, and MSN sucks liberal d1ck.
The same way MSN is demonizing everything a Rand Paul or Palin does -
FOX demonizes Obama the same way.
MSN misconstrued Paul's comments, then repeated that interpretation, even after it was very clear his opponent who made that accusation was wrong.
It seems pretty clear that FOX may have edited sound - the applause does disappear in the 2 spots where it originally was present on the tape.
Nothing wrong with admitting FOX got caught here. Both networks do this shit every day. We probably catch 10% of it.
The difference is I dont care if FOX edits the tape.They SHOULD edit the tape!!Finally conservatives are playing by lib rules.They set the rules,conservatives are finally after years,are playing by those same rules.Just like when Dan Rather has false papers zeroxed fakes about George Bush's service,FOX can now edit tapes.Just like Ed Shultz EVERY SINGLE DAY puts in parts of sound bites and calls it pycho talk,conservatives can do the same.
What drives libs nuts is they are over.They no longer have a monopoly on the information getting out and it drives them nuts.For years they were the ones doing the editing,now they see they have lost control.For years they were the ones marching,now they see the tea parties.FINALLY conservatives have a voice and are embracing lib rules.Michael Moore has THE FUCKING BALLS to bitch about edited tapes?Are you fucking kidding me?This guys entire career is editing quotes and slicing them up.
So,to you fucking cry baby libs.How does it feel to taste your own medicine?
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BILLY, just admit FOX sucks repub d1ck, and MSN sucks liberal d1ck.
The same way MSN is demonizing everything a Rand Paul or Palin does -
FOX demonizes Obama the same way.
MSN misconstrued Paul's comments, then repeated that interpretation, even after it was very clear his opponent who made that accusation was wrong.
It seems pretty clear that FOX may have edited sound - the applause does disappear in the 2 spots where it originally was present on the tape.
Nothing wrong with admitting FOX got caught here. Both networks do this shit every day. We probably catch 10% of it.
Common sense does exist afterall!! ;D Yes, both networks left and right do it, what's scary though is the fact some people fail to understand that or acknowledge it even after clear evidence has been put on the table. That makes you brainwashed....left and right , it really doesn't matter on which side you are.
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okay. If you can admit that FOX and MSN are both showing altered tape and purposefully selling lies to the American public, I'm cool with it. I agree with you completely.
It means conservatives and FOX can no longer accuse others of dirty tricks. it means they lose the moral 'high horse'. It means they're part of the lying, lamestream media.
I suspect this has always been the case. I don't think it was an accident when they showed 2000 footage of mccain during the 2008 election. I don't think it was an accident when they showed huge crowds from Inauguration and other events, and claimed it was 9/12, when photos showed otherwise.
In my best estimation, both networks use lies and 'mistakes' to sell their agenda. Neither can hate upon the other. They're both dirtbags.
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The difference is I dont care if FOX edits the tape.They SHOULD edit the tape!!Finally conservatives are playing by lib rules.They set the rules,conservatives are finally after years,are playing by those same rules.Just like when Dan Rather has false papers zeroxed fakes about George Bush's service,FOX can now edit tapes.Just like Ed Shultz EVERY SINGLE DAY puts in parts of sound bites and calls it pycho talk,conservatives can do the same.
What drives libs nuts is they are over.They no longer have a monopoly on the information getting out and it drives them nuts.For years they were the ones doing the editing,now they see they have lost control.For years they were the ones marching,now they see the tea parties.FINALLY conservatives have a voice and are embracing lib rules.Michael Moore has THE FUCKING BALLS to bitch about edited tapes?Are you fucking kidding me?This guys entire career is editing quotes and slicing them up.
So,to you fucking cry baby libs.How does it feel to taste your own medicine?
You just proved my previous post. ;D
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BILLY, just admit FOX sucks repub d1ck, and MSN sucks liberal d1ck.
The same way MSN is demonizing everything a Rand Paul or Palin does -
FOX demonizes Obama the same way.
MSN misconstrued Paul's comments, then repeated that interpretation, even after it was very clear his opponent who made that accusation was wrong.
It seems pretty clear that FOX may have edited sound - the applause does disappear in the 2 spots where it originally was present on the tape.
Nothing wrong with admitting FOX got caught here. Both networks do this shit every day. We probably catch 10% of it.
MSN may have a liberal/progressive bias but they don't do anything like the shit that Fox does. Virtually every time there is a Republican scandal the person shows up on Fox with a "D" under his name. Fox knows full well that stuff like this is unnoticable to their half concious viewers and but it get's into their head. Using phony crowd shots and editing out applause is just another step further. This shit is all intentional.
MSNBC may have a progressive bias but they regulary go after Dems and I honestly don't think they bash Rand Paul and he went on their network to announce his candidacy so he must have thought they were OK at that time
There's just no comparison btw Fox and MSNBC (IMO)
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Hahaha, people are actually arguing that MSNBC is better than Fox? You can't be serious.
They're both fucking pathetic organizations that should be ashamed of themselves. The saddest part is that fucktards on both sides think they're legitimate news organizations. LOL. Even CNN has gone down the path of trash with them.
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MSN may have a liberal/progressive bias but they don't do anything like the shit that Fox does. Virtually every time there is a Republican scandal the person shows up on Fox with a "D" under his name. Fox knows full well that stuff like this is unnoticable to their half concious viewers and but it get's into their head. Using phony crowd shots and editing out applause is just another step further. This shit is all intentional.
MSNBC may have a progressive bias but they regulary go after Dems and I honestly don't think they bash Rand Paul and he went on their network to announce his candidacy so he must have thought they were OK at that time
There's just no comparison btw Fox and MSNBC (IMO)
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I present to you the liberal idiot...
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back in the day... maybe 95/96 until 2001 or 2002... MSNBC was all I watched. I *honestly* thought they were just reporting the news, the truth, etc.
I didn't know they had a liberal slant because, well, I hadn't watched the others. Once I watched FOX, I realized "Wow, both channels report the same events, with their own slant. They point out different facts that make one party look better or worse. Neither is fair or balanced - they create the balance by holding down the Left and Right sides of opinion".
I think many FOX viewers are where I was in 1995... having only really watched one network, which they agree with, of course it seems fair and balanced. If I've only ever drank milk (MSNBC) in my life, it's the most delicious drink i've ever tasted. Once I have mountain dew (FOX), I realize milk (MSNBC) sucks and is for babies, but mountain dew (FOX) will rot my brain.
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back in the day... maybe 95/96 until 2001 or 2002... MSNBC was all I watched. I *honestly* thought they were just reporting the news, the truth, etc.
I didn't know they had a liberal slant because, well, I hadn't watched the others. Once I watched FOX, I realized "Wow, both channels report the same events, with their own slant. They point out different facts that make one party look better or worse. Neither is fair or balanced - they create the balance by holding down the Left and Right sides of opinion".
I think many FOX viewers are where I was in 1995... having only really watched one network, which they agree with, of course it seems fair and balanced. If I've only ever drank milk (MSNBC) in my life, it's the most delicious drink i've ever tasted. Once I have mountain dew (FOX), I realize milk (MSNBC) sucks and is for babies, but mountain dew (FOX) will rot my brain.
nice Arnold reference but then if milk is for babies and when you grow up you have to drink beer........what show is the beer?
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Hahaha, people are actually arguing that MSNBC is better than Fox? You can't be serious.
They're both fucking pathetic organizations that should be ashamed of themselves. The saddest part is that fucktards on both sides think they're legitimate news organizations. LOL. Even CNN has gone down the path of trash with them.
I agree, they should both be ashamed.
having watched a TON of both, my take is that
FOX will blatently remove applause, change (R) to (D) when a Repub looks bad, and will outright go to the trouble to dig up 8-year old footage to "accidentally" make their dog in the race look younger with bigger crowds. They'll use visual lies.
MSNBC will get a quote that benefits them politically, will repeat this until they're blue in the face, even after it's been proven to be incorrect. Rand Paul's opponent made an untrue accusation taht Paul wanted to repeal the Civil Rights act. Paul pointed to the actual quote. For 24 hours, MSN kept repeating that (already proven wrong) accusation.
So they both suck. They're both pieces of shit. if you think either is okay, well, you've been brainwashed.
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MSN may have a liberal/progressive bias but they don't do anything like the shit that Fox does. Virtually every time there is a Republican scandal the person shows up on Fox with a "D" under his name. Fox knows full well that stuff like this is unnoticable to their half concious viewers and but it get's into their head. Using phony crowd shots and editing out applause is just another step further. This shit is all intentional.
Hey jerkoff. You must have Alzheimer's.
Did you forget about this, Obama nut licker?:
Contessa Brewer, a host on virulently pro-Obama biased MSNBC network television, accused “white people” of showing up with guns to health care reform protests.
Brewer was referring to President Obama's speech in Arizona earlier this week. But as has been pointed out before, one of the men carrying an assault rifles at that event was black.
The black fellow has since defended his right to bear arms in public, which is not against the law in Arizona anyway.
Ignoring all this, it appears Brewer and MSNBC deliberately attempted to stir up racial tension by deliberately withholding from her viewers that the gun-toters in question included a black man, choosing instead to label them as “white people.”
Here is part of what Brewer said:
"A man at a pro-health care reform rally...wore a semiautomatic assault rifle on his shoulder and a pistol on his hip....there are questions about whether this has racial overtones....Here you have a man of color in the presidency and white people showing up with guns strapped to their waists."
After Brewer presented this misleading information, fellow MSNBC talking heads went on to further link the incident with white racism, pontificating about white supremacist “anger about a black person being president....we see these hate groups rising up and this is definitely part of that.”
Moreover, footage accompanying MSNBC’s report creatively edited out the black man in question, so as to fool viewers into believing he was white.
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Hey jerkoff. You must have Alzheimer's.
Did you forget about this, Obama nut licker?:
Contessa Brewer, a host on virulently pro-Obama biased MSNBC network television, accused “white people” of showing up with guns to health care reform protests.
Brewer was referring to President Obama's speech in Arizona earlier this week. But as has been pointed out before, one of the men carrying an assault rifles at that event was black.
The black fellow has since defended his right to bear arms in public, which is not against the law in Arizona anyway.
Ignoring all this, it appears Brewer and MSNBC deliberately attempted to stir up racial tension by deliberately withholding from her viewers that the gun-toters in question included a black man, choosing instead to label them as “white people.”
Here is part of what Brewer said:
"A man at a pro-health care reform rally...wore a semiautomatic assault rifle on his shoulder and a pistol on his hip....there are questions about whether this has racial overtones....Here you have a man of color in the presidency and white people showing up with guns strapped to their waists."
After Brewer presented this misleading information, fellow MSNBC talking heads went on to further link the incident with white racism, pontificating about white supremacist “anger about a black person being president....we see these hate groups rising up and this is definitely part of that.”
Moreover, footage accompanying MSNBC’s report creatively edited out the black man in question, so as to fool viewers into believing he was white.
Haha, that's the same bitch that said she was praying for the Times Square bomber to be a white, Christian male in his 40s. I had little respect for MSNBC before that and what little I had was gone after listening to that dumb c*nt vilify American citizens for the umpteenth time.
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I agree, they should both be ashamed.
So they both suck. They're both pieces of shit. if you think either is okay, well, you've been brainwashed.
MSN may have a liberal/progressive bias but they don't do anything like the shit that Fox does.
MSNBC may have a progressive bias but they regulary go after Dems and I honestly don't think they bash Rand Paul and he went on their network to announce his candidacy so he must have thought they were OK at that time
There's just no comparison btw Fox and MSNBC (IMO)
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I present to you the liberal idiot...
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http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/checker.aspx?v=Gdnz8z2Geu
(http://faustasblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/obama-visit-014-225x300.jpg)
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Ok so Fox sucks and MSNBC sucks and we all know that CNN sucks and no one in their right mind thinks network news is "fair and balanced" so I guess the only place to get unbiased news is GB.com
For the record (and I've said this many times) I don't agree with everything I see on any channel. I can't watch Fox because it's designed to promote a corporate agenda and to keep stupid people stupid. I watch Olberman and Maddow but not every day and I certainly don't agree with everything they say and I've said that MANY times.
pick your poison
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Ok so Fox sucks and MSNBC sucks and we all know that CNN sucks and no one in their right mind thinks network news is "fair and balanced" so I guess the only place to get unbiased news is GB.com
For the record (and I've said this many times) I don't agree with everything I see on any channel. I can't watch Fox because it's designed to promote a corporate agenda and to keep stupid people stupid. I watch Olberman and Maddow but not every day and I certainly don't agree with everything they say and I've said that MANY times.
pick your poison
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I present to you the liberal idiot...(takes bow and exits stage right)
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Haha, that's the same bitch that said she was praying for the Times Square bomber to be a white, Christian male in his 40s. I had little respect for MSNBC before that and what little I had was gone after listening to that dumb c*nt vilify American citizens for the umpteenth time.
here's the trancript - where did she make the statement that you attributed to her above?
Contessa Brewer: I mean the thing is is that and I get frustrated and there was part of me that was hoping this was not going to be anybody with ties to any kind of Islamic country because there are a lot of people who want to use this terrorist intent to justify writing off people who believe in a certain way or come from certain countries or whose skin color is a certain way. I mean they use it as justification for really outdated bigotry.
And so there was part of me was really hoping this would not be the case that here would be somebody who is not the defined. I mean he’s accused he’s arrested you know I don’t want to convict him before it’s time to do so. He’s the guy authorities say is involved. But that being said I mean we know even in recent history you have the Hutaree militia from Michigan who have plans to let’s face it create terror.
That’s what they were planning to do and they were doing so from far different backgrounds then what this guy is coming from. So, the threat is not just coming from people who decide that America is the place to be and you know come here and want to become citizens. Obviously this guy did.
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TAAAA DAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I present to you the liberal idiot...(takes bow and exits stage right)
if that's all you got then why even bother
do you think statements like this are going to convince me to consider your point of view?
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Ok so Fox sucks and MSNBC sucks and we all know that CNN sucks and no one in their right mind thinks network news is "fair and balanced" so I guess the only place to get unbiased news is GB.com
For the record (and I've said this many times) I don't agree with everything I see on any channel. I can't watch Fox because it's designed to promote a corporate agenda and to keep stupid people stupid. I watch Olberman and Maddow but not every day and I certainly don't agree with everything they say and I've said that MANY times.
pick your poison
Shut the hell up you stupid dork. You lied about MSNBC. They have edited tapes and stoked the fire of racism in support of a man who is obviously way above his head in his present position.
I know FOX presents and defends the conservative view point. The difference is I don't try to refute that fact. You, my simple minded friend, and the other liberal, left wing nut jobs on this forum try to defend MSNBC as an unbiased news corporation. That is what you tried to do on this thread and you have failed miserably.
Do us all a favor and post your stupidity somewhere else.
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Shut the hell up you stupid dork. You lied about MSNBC. They have edited tapes and stoked the fire of racism in support of a man who is obviously way above his head in his present position.
I know FOX presents and defends the conservative view point. The difference is I don't try to refute that fact. You, my simple minded friend, and the other liberal, left wing nut jobs on this forum try to defend MSNBC as an unbiased news corporation. That is what you tried to do on this thread and you have failed miserably.
Do us all a favor and post your stupidity somewhere else.
this is a perfect example of why this board is usually a waste of time
if you were able to read you'd know that I have said that MSNBC has a liberal/progressive bias and the only thing I'm "defending" is that, to my knowledge, MSNBC does not alter video, show footgage from one crowd at one event and pretend it's from another and they don't show the wrong party affiliation for disgraced politicians. Fox does this ALL the time.
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thanks for pointing out that it's only due to willful ignorance of the far right that people like you remain so uninformed
That's priceless coming from you.
1. Dead wrong on the Stim Bill
2. Dead wrong on ObamaCare
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MSN may have a liberal/progressive bias but they don't do anything like the shit that Fox does. Virtually every time there is a Republican scandal the person shows up on Fox with a "D" under his name. Fox knows full well that stuff like this is unnoticable to their half concious viewers and but it get's into their head. Using phony crowd shots and editing out applause is just another step further. This shit is all intentional.
MSNBC may have a progressive bias but they regulary go after Dems and I honestly don't think they bash Rand Paul and he went on their network to announce his candidacy so he must have thought they were OK at that time
There's just no comparison btw Fox and MSNBC (IMO)
Incredible!!Ed Shultz EVERY SINGLE day puts cuts of tape on his show,taken completely out of context ,and calls it psycho talk.EVERYDAY he does this.Olbermann every single night,takes bits and pieces of a quote and then makes a story of it.No context,no backround on what the subject is or if the guy was joking nothing.
The idea that you claim they don't do this is really quite amazing,but not surprising because unless you actually watch both slants you wouldn't know they are doing it.
We have seen here on 100 occasions people quotting Rush Limbaugh from something MSNBC said he said that was wrong as could be.The Barrack the magic negro thing was a perfect example.Rush was actually mocking a black LA times reporter who called Obama that and made a song of Al Sharpton singing Barrack the magic negro to the tune of Puff the magic dragon.
According to MSNBC this was a racist song by Rush and HE called Obama a magic negro.Exactly the opposite of what the skit was.This is done EVERYDAY on MSNBC on any number of stories or people.To try to act like they are just libs but don't edit tapes is just burying your head in the sand.
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if that's all you got then why even bother
do you think statements like this are going to convince me to consider your point of view?
LOL broham nothing I say or show you is going to change your mind...THATS WHAT MAKES YOU THE LIBERAL IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!
for anybody to say that msnbc is any better than fox or fox is any better than msnbc is ignorant...just like YOU... ;)
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This is ridiculous, it just shows how fanatic and narrow minded some people are. They justify one network's bias because another network is just as biased. Way to go.
I guess trying to do some research on various sources, not just one, and get the real news might lead some people to discoveries that will upset them and destroy their narrow world view.
Anyone who thinks Maddow or Limbaugh or Beck or Olbermann are objective, better get your head checked.
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This is ridiculous, it just shows how fanatic and narrow minded some people are. They justify one network's bias because another network is just as biased. Way to go.
I guess trying to do some research on various sources, not just one, and get the real news might lead some people to discoveries that will upset them and destroy their narrow world view.
Anyone who thinks Maddow or Limbaugh or Beck or Olbermann are objective, better get your head checked.
We dont think they are objective,what is great is you can get your information from where you want to.Unlike the old days where you were stuck getting it from left wing loons like Rather or 60 minutes.
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I assume the eye roll is for how pathetic it is for Faux News to think that they have the right to censor the graduates of West Point
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Anybody give any thought as to why anybody even worried about "applause" at West Point or how much he got or didn't get. Because we don't fucking like him. Do any of idiots think West Point is a lib school..or even apolitical? If u think we love him now, wait until DADT is repealed. Fuck barry.....
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Anybody give any thought as to why anybody even worried about "applause" at West Point or how much he got or didn't get. Because we don't fucking like him. Do any of idiots think West Point is a lib school..or even apolitical? If u think we love him now, wait until DADT is repealed. Fuck barry.....
From what I've read, a repeal of DADT isn't exactly a lock. It's going to be close, one way or the other. The Dems are simply trying to ram it through now, before the beatings start in November.
But, even some homos aren't happy, such as "Lt" Dan Choi, who claims that even if this compromise bill goes through, it could take YEARS before DADT actually gets implemented. The deal supposedly states that the military gets to make the call as to when it's time to repeal DADT. Many gay activists and their sympathizers claim that this measure lets the military postpone repeal indefinitely.
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Anybody give any thought as to why anybody even worried about "applause" at West Point or how much he got or didn't get. Because we don't fucking like him. Do any of idiots think West Point is a lib school..or even apolitical? If u think we love him now, wait until DADT is repealed. Fuck barry.....
Since when did you speak for everyone in the military
The issue with Fox is censorship and propaganda
You know, that "freedom" stuff that you're supposedly fighting to protect
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I assume the eye roll is for how pathetic it is for Faux News to think that they have the right to censor the graduates of West Point
Or maybe its in response to Rachel Maddow implying anyone involved in an organasation that has a member in it who uses politically incorrect language that SHE deems racist,makes the entire group racist as she did in her interview with the president of F.A.I.R.The funny thing is though she never connects the dots that Obama sat in a racist church for twenty years and he might therefore be a racist.Id say that does deserve an eye roll.
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Or maybe its in response to Rachel Maddow implying anyone involved in an organasation that has a member in it who uses politically incorrect language that SHE deems racist,makes the entire group racist as she did in her interview with the president of F.A.I.R.The funny thing is though she never connects the dots that Obama sat in a racist church for twenty years and he might therefore be a racist.Id say that does deserve an eye roll.
Doubtful since that's not what the thread was about
Why don't you start a thread about that topic and we can discuss whether your claim is even true or not
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Doubtful since that's not what the thread was about
Why don't you start a thread about that topic and we can discuss whether your claim is even true or not
"MSN may have a liberal/progressive bias but they don't do anything like the shit that Fox does."
Thats your quote.Im responding to your assertion that MSNBC doesnt do stuff that FOX does and ACTUALLY GAVE AN EXAMPLE of exactly how they are worse then FOX.So,as long as your commenting on the fairness of MSNBC and the unfairness of FOX then I would think a response showing unfairness is valid.Wouldnt you?
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"MSN may have a liberal/progressive bias but they don't do anything like the shit that Fox does."
Thats your quote.Im responding to your assertion that MSNBC doesnt do stuff that FOX does and ACTUALLY GAVE AN EXAMPLE of exactly how they are worse then FOX.So,as long as your commenting on the fairness of MSNBC and the unfairness of FOX then I would think a response showing unfairness is valid.Wouldnt you?
Here's my full quote - show me examples of how MSNBC does any of the things highlighted in red.
MSN may have a liberal/progressive bias but they don't do anything like the shit that Fox does. Virtually every time there is a Republican scandal the person shows up on Fox with a "D" under his name. Fox knows full well that stuff like this is unnoticable to their half concious viewers and but it get's into their head. Using phony crowd shots and editing out applause is just another step further. This shit is all intentional.
MSNBC may have a progressive bias but they regulary go after Dems and I honestly don't think they bash Rand Paul and he went on their network to announce his candidacy so he must have thought they were OK at that time
There's just no comparison btw Fox and MSNBC (IMO)
Your example of Maddow is not the same and even more importantly we don't even know if what you're saying is true. Start a thread about it and put up the tape of what you claim Maddow is saying and let's see if you're even correct but in the meatime please show me some examples of the "shit" that we know for a fact that Fox (as an entire organization has a history of doing)
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Here's my full quote - show me examples of how MSNBC does any of the things highlighted in red.
Your example of Maddow is not the same and even more importantly we don't even know if what you're saying is true. Start a thread about it and put up the tape of what you claim Maddow is saying and let's see if you're even correct but in the meatime please show me some examples of the "shit" that we know for a fact that Fox (as an entire organization has a history of doing)
We know for a fact that Maddow did three nights in a row on the Census worker that was found dead in KY.She implied for three nights in a row that it was a right wing anti government extremist who murdered the guy and that he was probably influenced by right wing extremists like Rush and Beck.Then,when it turned out that the gutless coward killed himself NOT A PEEP from Maddow.
Her interview with the guy from F.A.I.R is on her blog.SO,I REALLY DONT GIVE A FLYING FUCK IF YOU BELIEVE IT OR NOT.Much like when 240 questions me,I always turn out to be right because I comment on things I see.I dont comment on things I see second handed on MSNBC or FOX as they give their slanted view of it.I actually see it the way it was on television,I dont need some host giving me his interpretation of it,like the libs on here do with FOX or Rush.
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Here is the interview.Now,keep in mind this is a women who NEVER would say Obama is a racist when he sat in a racist church for twenty years listening to rev. "dem jews" Wright,and who is on a network that interviews Sharpton and Jackson nearly every week on issues of race.
http://www.thepoliticalcarnival.net/2010/04/video-rachel-maddow-eviscerates-fair/
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We know for a fact that Maddow did three nights in a row on the Census worker that was found dead in KY.She implied for three nights in a row that it was a right wing anti government extremist who murdered the guy and that he was probably influenced by right wing extremists like Rush and Beck.Then,when it turned out that the gutless coward killed himself NOT A PEEP from Maddow.
Her interview with the guy from F.A.I.R is on her blog.SO,I REALLY DONT GIVE A FLYING FUCK IF YOU BELIEVE IT OR NOT.Much like when 240 questions me,I always turn out to be right because I comment on things I see.I dont comment on things I see second handed on MSNBC or FOX as they give their slanted view of it.I actually see it the way it was on television,I dont need some host giving me his interpretation of it,like the libs on here do with FOX or Rush.
so you think Maddow asking the leader of FAIR about the written and spoken words of their founder is the same as altering tape, showing wrong tape, showing scandals ridden Repubs as Dems, etc... are the same thing
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Here is the interview.Now,keep in mind this is a women who NEVER would say Obama is a racist when he sat in a racist church for twenty years listening to rev. "dem jews" Wright,and who is on a network that interviews Sharpton and Jackson nearly every week on issues of race.
http://www.thepoliticalcarnival.net/2010/04/video-rachel-maddow-eviscerates-fair/
yep - I saw the interview when it happened.
here's the next day follow up where she goes over all the lies by Dan Stein (president of FAIR) in the prior days interview.
Again - feel free to point out any lies
I'm still waiting for you to explain how asking a person about their organization and the written and spoken words of one of their founders is the same as altering video tape, showing video from one event and claiming it was from another event and the many many times that Fox has shown disgraced Repubilcan as a Democrat
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yep - I saw the interview when it happened.
here's the next day follow up where she goes over all the lies by Dan Stein (president of FAIR) in the prior days interview.
Again - feel free to point out any lies
I'm still waiting for you to explain how asking a person about their organization and the written and spoken words of one of their founders is the same as altering video tape, showing video from one event and claiming it was from another event and the many many times that Fox has shown disgraced Repubilcan as a Democrat
Ha,ha,ha and the guy isnt there to answer YES thats very fair.
Its very simple.You take quotes out of context and you imply an entire group is racist because of a few quotes over a 30 year span.Again,its EXACTLY the same thing as doctering up a video.If you take quotes out of context and sandbag a guy,then come on the air the next day and refute what the guy said AND DONT GIVE THE GUY A CHANCE TO ANSWER then your as guilty as if you sliced the tape and added in quotes.
Once again I ask,quotes from members of a group that SHE deems as racist[I frankly found none of it racist]makes an entire group racist,but sitting in a racist church for twenty years and listening to a sawed off racist spew his hate,being so inspired by the racist that you write a book based on his words,then saying you could never throw the racist under the bus,DOESNT make you a racist.But a couple of guys in a group making a statement or two that you see as racist makes the entire group racist.
If you cant see how this is the exact same thing as slicing video ,then I cant help you.Most would say taking quotes out of contect,sandbagging a guy with the quotes,then going on the air the next to day to dispute what the guy said but giving the guy no chance to respond,is the same thing as slicing video.
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We know for a fact that Maddow did three nights in a row on the Census worker that was found dead in KY.She implied for three nights in a row that it was a right wing anti government extremist who murdered the guy and that he was probably influenced by right wing extremists like Rush and Beck.Then,when it turned out that the gutless coward killed himself NOT A PEEP from Maddow.
here's a "peep"
I barely looked and I found this clip of Maddow reporting that it was now being considered a suicide and said she would report back
mention of Sparkman and suicide is at ~ the 1:20 mark on the clip
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Ha,ha,ha and the guy isnt there to answer YES thats very fair.
Its very simple.You take quotes out of context and you imply an entire group is racist because of a few quotes over a 30 year span.Again,its EXACTLY the same thing as doctering up a video.If you take quotes out of context and sandbag a guy,then come on the air the next day and refute what the guy said AND DONT GIVE THE GUY A CHANCE TO ANSWER then your as guilty as if you sliced the tape and added in quotes.
Once again I ask,quotes from members of a group that SHE deems as racist[I frankly found none of it racist]makes an entire group racist,but sitting in a racist church for twenty years and listening to a sawed off racist spew his hate,being so inspired by the racist that you write a book based on his words,then saying you could never throw racist under the bus,DOESNT make you a racist.But a couple of guys in a group making a statement or two that you see as racist makes the entire group racist.
If you cant see how this is the exact same thing as slicing video ,then I cant help you.Most would say taking quotes out of contect,sandbagging a guy with the quotes,then going on the air the next to day to dispute what the guy said but giving the guy no chance to respond,is the same thing as slicing video.
try mentioning something specific
did youw watch the video from the next day.
Seriously Billy - you've already shown us that you like being intentionally uniformed and misinformed so what's the point of trying to discuss actual, objective facts with you?
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Ha,ha,ha and the guy isnt there to answer YES thats very fair.
Its very simple.You take quotes out of context and you imply an entire group is racist because of a few quotes over a 30 year span.Again,its EXACTLY the same thing as doctering up a video.If you take quotes out of context and sandbag a guy,then come on the air the next day and refute what the guy said AND DONT GIVE THE GUY A CHANCE TO ANSWER then your as guilty as if you sliced the tape and added in quotes.
the only problem with your theory is that it's not true. The only person interrupting was Stein. Maddow would start a question and he would get defensive and jump in.
She would give a statement by the founder of his organization or mention a factual association and he would deny it. I don't remember hearing any quote by Maddow where she said or implied that the entire group was racist
btw - an interview with a person where he's being asked about written and spoken words which can be fact checked is not the same thing as showing bogus video or doctored video
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the only problem with your theory is that it's not true. The only person interrupting was Stein. Maddow would start a question and he would get defensive and jump in.
She would give a statement by the founder of his organization or mention a factual association and he would deny it. I don't remember hearing any quote by Maddow where she said or implied that the entire group was racist
btw - an interview with a person where he's being asked about written and spoken words which can be fact checked is not the same thing as showing bogus video or doctored video
Taking quotes out of context IS the same thing as doctoring tape.JUST LIKE the Barrack the Magic Negro thing Rush played.If you just play it and don't explain it was a parody of an article a black reporter from the LA TIMES wrote,thats EXACTLY the same thing as editing out applause.
Maddow,takes parts of quotes from 30 years ago and expects the guy to comment on it 30 years later when you can clearly see has little recollection of the quote.Its typical Maddow.My response would have simply been to recite Rev. Wright sermons and said "do you think Obama believes that".But he isn't as quick as me.
She mentioned that it was a suicide AFTER having night after night after night of interviews regarding the case,interviews with the family,implying it was right wing extremism that caused his murder,trying to drag Rush and Beck into it.To simply say it was ruled a suicide without apologising for jumping to an insane conclusion and stoking the fires of hate is lazy at best and scurrilous at worst.
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Taking quotes out of context IS the same thing as doctoring tape.JUST LIKE the Barrack the Magic Negro thing Rush played.If you just play it and don't explain it was a parody of an article a black reporter from the LA TIMES wrote,thats EXACTLY the same thing as editing out applause.
Maddow,takes parts of quotes from 30 years ago and expects the guy to comment on it 30 years later when you can clearly see has little recollection of the quote.Its typical Maddow.My response would have simply been to recite Rev. Wright sermons and said "do you think Obama believes that".But he isn't as quick as me.
She mentioned that it was a suicide AFTER having night after night after night of interviews regarding the case,interviews with the family,implying it was right wing extremism that caused his murder,trying to drag Rush and Beck into it.To simply say it was ruled a suicide without apologising for jumping to an insane conclusion and stoking the fires of hate is lazy at best and scurrilous at worst.
regarding the suicide she reported the info given in the media by LE and then did follow up as more info became available. Exactly what you would expect from a reporter of the news
can you give even one example of something Maddow said that was not true
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regarding the suicide she reported the info given in the media by LE and then did follow up as more info became available. Exactly what you would expect from a reporter of the news
can you give even one example of something Maddow said that was not true
After Jindal delivered the Republican response to President Obama's address before Congress on Tuesday, he became the recipient of withering criticism from both sides of the aisle. Maddow's critique of Jindal, however, was so over the top that it bore little resemblance to what Jindal actually said --
MADDOW: In the jaw-dropping comment of the night, Gov. Jindal went on to invoke government failure during Hurricane Katrina as a model for how to understand how we should move forward as a country.
JINDAL: Today in Washington, some are promising that government will rescue us from the economic storms raging all around us. Those of us who lived through Hurricane Katrina, we have our doubts.
MADDOW (makes weird sounds of mock anguish): I thought I could come up with words again, hearing it the second time around. Honestly I can't. The idea being that since government failed during Hurricane Katrina, we should understand not that government should not be allowed to fail again, but that government is inherently fail (sic), that government never works, that government can't work and therefore we should stop seeking a functioning government. Stunning.
"Stunning" comes to mind when one sees how Maddow edited the segment to deprive viewers of what Jindal said next, which was this --
JINDAL: Let me tell you a story. During Katrina, I visited Sheriff Harry Lee, a Democrat and a good friend of mine. When I walked into his makeshift office, I had never seen him so angry. He was literally yelling into the phone. 'Well I'm the sheriff and if you don't like it, you can come and arrest me!' I asked him, 'Sheriff, what's got you so mad?' He told me that he had put out a call for volunteers to come with their boats to rescue people who were trapped on their rooftops by the flood waters. The boats were all lined up and ready to go, and then some bureaucrat showed up and told them they couldn't go out on the water unless they had proof of insurance and registration. And I told him, 'Sheriff, that's ridiculous.' Before I knew it, he was yelling in the phone, 'Congressman Jindal's here and he says you can come and arrest him too!' Well, Harry just told those boaters, ignore the bureaucrats and go start rescuing people. There's a lesson in this experience. The strength of America is not found in our government. It's found in the compassionate hearts and the enterprising spirit of our citizens.
Maddow's contortion of Jindal's remarks continued that night when she interviewed former Wonkette blogger Ana Marie Cox, a contributor to The Daily Beast and national correspondent for Air America Radio --
MADDOW: I was speechless twice in hearing the Katrina response because the implication of it is not that the lesson to have learned from Katrina is that we ought to make the government work better 'cause we need the government for some stuff, but that we don't need the government 'cause the government can't do anything. We ought to just ...
COX (interrupting): You better not trust that government!
MADDOW: Yeah! Ever!
COX: Yeah, it was a very strange, counterintuitive thing to do.
In other words, the emergency response to Katrina is an example of how residents of the Gulf Coast should have trusted government ...?
More along the same lines from Maddow in her show Wednesday night --
MADDOW: I was personally left sort of speechless after his speech. It wasn't just his delivery, it was his use of Hurricane Katrina as a lesson that government is not necessary, that nothing should be expected of government.
How about that, Maddow earned a doctorate in political science at Oxford and can't discern between the conservatism espoused by Jindal -- and apparently shared by many others in the historically red state of Louisiana -- and the anarchism she attributes to him. Those inclined toward politics usually learn the distinction in high school.
Jindal wasn't remotely implying, as Maddow wants her credulous viewers to believe, that "we should stop seeking a functioning government." Jindal was suggesting we should not tolerate dysfunctional government -- especially when it imperils public safety.
To Maddow, "government" in the context of Katrina is reduced to a single, easily scapegoated figure -- then-President George W. Bush, guilty most of all for not biting his lower lip on cue after Katrina struck, in the manner of Empathizer-in-Chief Bill Clinton.
Maddow is apparently also unaware that when it comes to natural disasters, emergency response obligations for government start at the local level and work their way up -- as dictated by law.
That there was plenty of blame to go around for "government" failure in response to Katrina was described in a Wall Street Journal op-ed published Sept. 6, 2005, one week after the storm, and written by Bob Williams, president of the Evergreen Freedom Foundation public policy research organization --
The primary responsibility for dealing with emergencies does not belong to the federal government. It belongs to local and state officials who are charged by law with the management of the crucial first response to disasters. First response should be carried out by local and state emergency personnel under the supervision of the state governor and his/her emergency operations center.
Here's how then-Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco and New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin, Democrats both, handled these responsibilities, as described by Williams --
... Local, state and federal officials held a simulated hurricane drill 13 months ago, in which widespread flooding supposedly trapped 300,000 people inside New Orleans. The exercise simulated the evacuation of more than a million residents. The problems identified in the simulation apparently were not solved.
A year ago, as Hurricane Ivan approached, New Orleans ordered an evacuation but did not use city or school buses to help people evacuate. As a result many of the poorest citizens were unable to evacuate. Fortunately, the hurricane changed course and did not hit New Orleans, but both Gov. Blanco and Mayor Nagin acknowledged the need for a better evacuation plan. In 1998, during a threat by Hurricane George, 14,000 people were sent to the Superdome and theft and security were rampant due to inadequate security. Again, these problems were not corrected ...
... Mayor Nagin had to be encouraged by the governor to contact the National Hurricane Center before he finally, belatedly, issued the order for mandatory evacuation. And sadly, it apparently took a personal call from the president to urge the governor to order the manndatory evacuation.
The city's evacuation plan states: 'The city of New Orleans will utilize all available resources to quickly and safely evacuate threatened areas.' But even though the city has enough school and transit buses to evacuate 12,000 citizens per fleet run, the mayor did not use them. To compound the problem, the buses were not moved to high ground and were flooded ...
... I am not attempting to excuse some of the delays in FEMA's response. Congress and the president need to take corrective action there, also. However, if citizens expect FEMA to be a first responder to terrorist attacks or other local emergencies (earthquakes, forest fires, volcanoes), they will be disappointed. The federal government's role is to offer aid upon request.
It wasn't what Jindal said about Katrina that raised Maddow's hackles. It was that as a Republican, he dared say anything about it. Liberals staked a proprietary claim to Katrina years ago and any conservative crossing into their perceived property is automatically guilty, if only of trespassing.
Left wingers do the same when it comes to race, while also decrying an alleged lack of discourse on the subject (Most recent example: Attorney General Eric Holder's "nation of cowards" slander). Indeed, so-called progressives want ever more "dialogue" on Katrina, race, gender, etc. -- the more "candid" the better -- followed by liberals condemning conservatives who follow suit as racist, insensitive, pathological, etc. See how it works?
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jack-coleman/2009/02/27/rachel-maddow-more-shameless-speechless-contorting-jindals-remarks-kat
http://www.charlotteconservative.com/index.php/2009/12/rachel-maddow-falsely-claims-ex-gay-author-gave-support-and-encouragement-for-execution-of-gays-in-uganda/
http://www.politikditto.com/2009/08/rachel-maddows-lies-lead-to-death.html
Those are just the first few I saw.Care me to post more?I think a couple CLEARLY show how she edits clips and makes political points off the edited clips,JUST as you accuse FOX of doing.
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I don't have time to read all that and sift through what you think is a lie
tell me the lie and I'll check it and see if you are reporting it correctly
try to keep it short as I'm doing other things otherswise I won't be able to look at it until later today
btw - try use your own words and not someone elses
I'll address one point at a time
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I don't have time to read all that and sift through what you think is a lie
tell me the lie and I'll check it and see if you are reporting it correctly
try to keep it short as I'm doing other things otherswise I won't be able to look at it until later today
btw - try use your own words and not someone elses
I'll address one point at a time
I dont have time either.Look at it later if you want.Either way we will never agree,but thats ok.
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Billy: Straw man is dense beyond belief. Arguing with him is useless.
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Billy: Straw man is dense beyond belief. Arguing with him is useless.
Well you think he is 100% wrong,I think he is 100% wrong but he thinks we are 100% wrong.I always find it amazing that two people can hear or read the exact same thing and seem to hear or read totally different things.I wonder how that happens?
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I dont have time either.Look at it later if you want.Either way we will never agree,but thats ok.
Billy - you're the one who's posting multiple paragraphs of other people paraphrasing Maddow and then telling us what it's supposed to mean.
if you think she's lied about something then post her own words or even better a video clip and then tell me the lie
so far you're proven wrong about the census worker and if you want to try another topic go right ahead
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Anyone have link to video where maddow specifically blames a party for the census worker suicide?
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Billy - you're the one who's posting multiple paragraphs of other people paraphrasing Maddow and then telling us what it's supposed to mean.
if you think she's lied about something then post her own words or even better a video clip and then tell me the lie
so far you're proven wrong about the census worker and if you want to try another topic go right ahead
How am I proven wrong about the census worker.She had three to five shows on it,interviewd the gutless cowards family,then started into a diatribe on how dangerous right wing extremism like that of Beck and Rush is.THE GUY KILLED HIMSELF.There was no right wing hate group,no extremism,no Rush fueled hate.To act like she just has to then get on television and say "it loks like the death was a suicide" is like a newspaper putting that your a child molester in headlines and then printing a retraction on page 12 at the bottom of the page.
She fueled the notion that it was a right wing extremist she was 100% wrong and ginned up hate for no reason.Much like Bill Clinton did by blaming Rush for McVeigh.
However,this is your MO.You excuse Robert Byrds filabuster of the civil rights bill,being a recruiter for the Klan and say "he said he was sorry".So,the left can create mayhem for days but as long as they then say "oh it looks like I was wrong" its fine.Amazing.
However,here is an article WITH a video which shows how not only does she lie,when she is caught in the lie she continues to perpetrate the lie.This is typical Maddow.
http://www.charlotteconservative.com/index.php/2009/12/rachel-maddow-falsely-claims-ex-gay-author-gave-support-and-encouragement-for-execution-of-gays-in-uganda/
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By the way,here is the video of her announcing it was a suicide.She STILL calls it a muder,rolls her eyes that it could be a suicide.This was her admitting its a suicide?
To 240,cant hear this clip at work,but the headline says she blames it on Bachman.In fairness I cant hear it so Im going 100% on the posters word.
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By the way,here is the video of her announcing it was a suicide.She STILL calls it a muder,rolls her eyes that it could be a suicide.This was her admitting its a suicide?
To 240,cant hear this clip at work,but the headline says she blames it on Bachman.In fairness I cant hear it so Im going 100% on the posters word.
Billy - this is perfect example of your problem - willful ignorance.
You're posting the same clip that I posted on page 2 in response to your false claim that Maddow never mentioned it was suicide. She reports that it's now being considered more likely to be a suicide. She doesn't still call it a murder and she doesn't roll her eyes
here's a "peep"
I barely looked and I found this clip of Maddow reporting that it was now being considered a suicide and said she would report back
mention of Sparkman and suicide is at ~ the 1:20 mark on the clip
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HOLY SHIT BILLY -
I've been agreeing with you for months on this. however, after watching the clip YOU provided from the breaking news day - this is what I saw. SHE NEVER MAKES ANY ASSUMPTION ABOUT IT BEING ANY GROUP.
The day the story breaks----
She cites the AP, according to a LEO source,
The census bureau called it a hate crime.
An apparent homicide, another census speaker.
Then she gave the FBi statement.
Her guest says "IF" this ends up being the work of anti-govt types, and says we have no evidence of that.
maddow says "We are all wondering if it is related to antigovt sentiment - is there any evidence of this?"
Her guest then says that CONCERN remains, but that LEO is keeping their cards close on it. he says we need ot look at all possible explanations.
He says local census workers are curious, but investigators have said nothing.
Maybe she said it on another day with another broadcast. She is VERY careful not to do that here. Do you have another day's clip where she does this?
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240 - I don't think Billy actually bothers to watch the clips.
Either that or he's like 333 and he watches the clips but then hears and sees something that didn't happen (i.e. like the clip 333 posted where he insisted Krugman claimed there were death panels).
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Billy - this is perfect example of your problem - willful ignorance.
You're posting the same clip that I posted on page 2 in response to your false claim that Maddow never mentioned it was suicide. She reports that it's now being considered more likely to be a suicide. She doesn't still call it a murder and she doesn't roll her eyes
At 1:32 she says "whos apparent muder we covered" .Apparent to whom?Only to left wing idiots like her.NOT ONCE did law enforcement ever say it was a murder only left wing loons like her.And from 2:12 to 2:19 she gives details of what they found and its obvious by her tone that she STILL thinks its a murder.
To 240,hey dim wit.I CLEARLY said that I couldnt hear that particular clip.She had three nights worth of shows on it.Once again how much more clear could I be when I posted I cant hear the clip at work so IM going 100% by the posters description.You would think an idiot could figure out when I said "I CANT HEAR THE CLIP AND IM GOING BY THE POSTERS DESCRIPTION" that the clip may not have included that info.
Now,no response on her report of the homosexuals being given the death penalty and her being proven wrong in her report but STILL snarkely reporting it as a fact?
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240 - I don't think Billy actually bothers to watch the clips.
Either that or he's like 333 and he watches the clips but then hears and sees something that didn't happen (i.e. like the clip 333 posted where he insisted Krugman claimed there were death panels).
Krugman did say they were rationing panels (aka Death Panels) and even now the Medicare nominee is saying there are going to be rationing panels. All but the brain dead twinks like yourself who are stuffed w obamas' cock up your ass see the reality of this garbage from this communist pofs admn.
And BTW - you twinks are being played for utter suckers and pathetic fools on the DADT issue just so you can donate $ $ $ to the assholes you vote for in lockstep.
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Krugman did say they were rationing panels (aka Death Panels) and even now the Medicare nominee is saying there are going to be rationing panels. All but the brain dead twinks like yourself who are stuffed w obamas' cock up your ass see the reality of this garbage from this communist pofs admn.
And BTW - you twinks are being played for utter suckers and pathetic fools on the DADT issue just so you can donate $ $ $ to the assholes you vote for in lockstep.
repost the clip if you'd like to review it again
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These are the same left wing goof balls that nod their heads when Madow claims gun groups are planning protests in Washington because its the anniversary of Oklahoma City but of course she never mentions that its also the anniversary of Lexington and Concord.She just happens to leave that out in her smug snarky style.
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Krugman did say they were rationing panels (aka Death Panels) and even now the Medicare nominee is saying there are going to be rationing panels. All but the brain dead twinks like yourself who are stuffed w obamas' cock up your ass see the reality of this garbage from this communist pofs admn.
And BTW - you twinks are being played for utter suckers and pathetic fools on the DADT issue just so you can donate $ $ $ to the assholes you vote for in lockstep.
he didn't say their would be rationing either
my recollection is that he said we would not be paying for expensive and unnecessary procedures but somehow your teabag brain converted that into "death panel" and I guess now your brain is turning that into rationing
I'm going from memory so why don't you find the clip (what was it about 32 seconds) and post it again
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And who determines that Straw? when the plan collapses under its own weight because we are paying for every deadbeat, drug addict, dirtbag, dyke, and dope fiend, even the most inexpensive procedures will be too much for the govt to approve.
Even now, with the Medicare nomineee claiming we will ration care, you still dont believe it.
What the hell is wrong with you?
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At 1:32 she says "whos apparent muder we covered" .Apparent to whom?Only to left wing idiots like her.NOT ONCE did law enforcement ever say it was a murder only left wing loons like her.And from 2:12 to 2:19 she gives details of what they found and its obvious by her tone that she STILL thinks its a murder.
To 240,hey dim wit.I CLEARLY said that I couldnt hear that particular clip.She had three nights worth of shows on it.Once again how much more clear could I be when I posted I cant hear the clip at work so IM going 100% by the posters description.You would think an idiot could figure out when I said "I CANT HEAR THE CLIP AND IM GOING BY THE POSTERS DESCRIPTION" that the clip may not have included that info.
Now,no response on her report of the homosexuals being given the death penalty and her being proven wrong in her report but STILL snarkely reporting it as a fact?
LOL - so you're going by what you think her tone is and actually ignoring her words
she uses the word apparent to refer to her own first report when it had the appearance of being a murder and given the fact that the guy went to some lengths to make it appear like a murder the use of that word makes perfect sense
again - order t support your point of view you have to willfully ignore everything that contracicts your point of view and instead rely on your gut feeling of things like her tone of voice
you FAIL again
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333 - why did you post the same thing 4 times
go find the clip and show me where he says death panel or rationing
again, that's the point
the person speaks certain words and in your brain you replace them with other words and then wonder why no one agrees with you
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333 - why did you post the same thing 4 times
go find the clip and show me where he says death panel or rationing
again, that's the point
the person speaks certain words and in your brain you replace them with other words and then wonder why no one agrees with you
I have a thread going on the Medicare nominee admitting there is going to be rationing and yet you ignore that. I posted the Krugman thread when he said what he did and you did your usual deaf dumb and blind routine like you always do.
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she quoted multiple AP articles and LEO sources who called it a homicide at that time.
So for her to call it a murder is just her repeating what she was given by the law man.