Obama Gets Applause at West Point, Fox Erases It?

[Straw Man]

TAAAA DAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I present to you the liberal idiot...(takes bow and exits stage right)

if that's all you got then why even bother

do you think statements like this are going to convince me to consider your point of view?

[dario73]

Ok so Fox sucks and MSNBC sucks and we all know that CNN sucks and no one in their right mind thinks network news is "fair and balanced" so I guess the only place to get unbiased news is GB.com

For the record (and I've said this many times) I don't agree with everything I see on any channel.    I can't watch Fox because it's designed to promote a corporate agenda and to keep stupid people stupid.  I watch Olberman and Maddow but not every day and I certainly don't agree with everything they say and I've said that MANY times.

pick your poison

Shut the hell up you stupid dork. You lied about MSNBC. They have edited tapes and stoked the fire of racism in support of a man who is obviously way above his head in his present position.

I know FOX presents and defends the conservative view point. The difference is I don't try to refute that fact. You, my simple minded friend, and the other liberal, left wing nut jobs on this forum try to defend MSNBC as an unbiased news corporation. That is what you tried to do on this thread and you have failed miserably.

Do us all a favor and post your stupidity somewhere else.

[Straw Man]

Shut the hell up you stupid dork. You lied about MSNBC. They have edited tapes and stoked the fire of racism in support of a man who is obviously way above his head in his present position.

I know FOX presents and defends the conservative view point. The difference is I don't try to refute that fact. You, my simple minded friend, and the other liberal, left wing nut jobs on this forum try to defend MSNBC as an unbiased news corporation. That is what you tried to do on this thread and you have failed miserably.
Do us all a favor and post your stupidity somewhere else.

this is a perfect example of why this board is usually a waste of time

if you were able to read you'd know that I have said that MSNBC has a liberal/progressive bias and the only thing I'm "defending" is that, to my knowledge, MSNBC does not alter video, show footgage from one crowd at one event and pretend it's from another and they don't show the wrong party affiliation for disgraced politicians.    Fox does this ALL the time.

[Soul Crusher]

thanks for pointing out that it's only due to  willful ignorance of the far right that people like you remain so uninformed

That's priceless coming from you. 

1.  Dead wrong on the Stim Bill

2.  Dead wrong on ObamaCare

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MSN may have a liberal/progressive bias but they don't do anything like the shit that Fox does.   Virtually every time there is a Republican scandal the person shows up on Fox with a "D" under his name.   Fox knows full well  that stuff like this is unnoticable to their half concious viewers and but it get's into their head.   Using phony crowd shots and editing out applause is just another step further.   This shit is all intentional.

MSNBC may have a progressive bias but they regulary go after Dems and I honestly don't think they bash Rand Paul and he went on their network to announce his candidacy so he must have thought they were OK at that time

There's just no comparison btw Fox and MSNBC (IMO)

Incredible!!Ed Shultz EVERY SINGLE day puts cuts of tape on his show,taken completely out of context ,and calls it psycho talk.EVERYDAY he does this.Olbermann every single night,takes bits and pieces of a quote and then makes a story of it.No context,no backround on what the subject is or if the guy was joking nothing.

The idea that you claim they don't do this is really quite amazing,but not surprising because unless you actually watch both slants you wouldn't know they are doing it.

We have seen here on 100 occasions people quotting Rush Limbaugh from something MSNBC said he said that was wrong as could be.The Barrack the magic negro thing was a perfect example.Rush was actually mocking a black LA times reporter who called Obama that and made a song of Al Sharpton singing Barrack the magic negro to the tune of Puff the magic dragon.

According to MSNBC this was a racist song by Rush and HE called Obama a magic negro.Exactly the opposite of what the skit was.This is done EVERYDAY on MSNBC on any number of stories or people.To try to act like they are just libs but don't edit tapes is just burying your head in the sand.

[tonymctones]

if that's all you got then why even bother

do you think statements like this are going to convince me to consider your point of view?

LOL broham nothing I say or show you is going to change your mind...THATS WHAT MAKES YOU THE LIBERAL IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!

for anybody to say that msnbc is any better than fox or fox is any better than msnbc is ignorant...just like YOU...

[Skeletor]

This is ridiculous, it just shows how fanatic and narrow minded some people are. They justify one network's bias because another network is just as biased. Way to go.
I guess trying to do some research on various sources, not just one, and get the real news might lead some people to discoveries that will upset them and destroy their narrow world view.
Anyone who thinks Maddow or Limbaugh or Beck or Olbermann are objective, better get your head checked.

[BM OUT]

This is ridiculous, it just shows how fanatic and narrow minded some people are. They justify one network's bias because another network is just as biased. Way to go.
I guess trying to do some research on various sources, not just one, and get the real news might lead some people to discoveries that will upset them and destroy their narrow world view.
Anyone who thinks Maddow or Limbaugh or Beck or Olbermann are objective, better get your head checked.

We dont think they are objective,what is great is you can get your information from where you want to.Unlike the old days where you were stuck getting it from left wing loons like Rather or 60 minutes.

[Dos Equis]

 

[Straw Man]

I assume the eye roll is for how pathetic it is for Faux News to think that they have the right to censor the graduates of West Point

[headhuntersix]

Anybody give any thought as to why anybody even worried about "applause" at West Point or how much he got or didn't get.  Because we don't fucking like him. Do any of idiots think West Point is a lib school..or even apolitical? If u think we love him now, wait until DADT is repealed. Fuck barry.....

[MCWAY]

Anybody give any thought as to why anybody even worried about "applause" at West Point or how much he got or didn't get.  Because we don't fucking like him. Do any of idiots think West Point is a lib school..or even apolitical? If u think we love him now, wait until DADT is repealed. Fuck barry.....

From what I've read, a repeal of DADT isn't exactly a lock. It's going to be close, one way or the other. The Dems are simply trying to ram it through now, before the beatings start in November.

But, even some homos aren't happy, such as "Lt" Dan Choi, who claims that even if this compromise bill goes through, it could take YEARS before DADT actually gets implemented. The deal supposedly states that the military gets to make the call as to when it's time to repeal DADT. Many gay activists and their sympathizers claim that this measure lets the military postpone repeal indefinitely.

[Straw Man]

Anybody give any thought as to why anybody even worried about "applause" at West Point or how much he got or didn't get.  Because we don't fucking like him. Do any of idiots think West Point is a lib school..or even apolitical? If u think we love him now, wait until DADT is repealed. Fuck barry.....

Since when did you speak for everyone in the military
The issue with Fox is censorship and propaganda
You know, that "freedom" stuff that you're supposedly fighting to protect

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I assume the eye roll is for how pathetic it is for Faux News to think that they have the right to censor the graduates of West Point

Or maybe its in response to Rachel Maddow implying anyone involved in an organasation that has a member in it who uses politically incorrect language that SHE deems racist,makes the entire group racist as she did in her interview with the president of F.A.I.R.The funny thing is though she never connects the dots that Obama sat in a racist church for twenty years and he might therefore be a racist.Id say that does deserve an eye roll.

[Straw Man]

Or maybe its in response to Rachel Maddow implying anyone involved in an organasation that has a member in it who uses politically incorrect language that SHE deems racist,makes the entire group racist as she did in her interview with the president of F.A.I.R.The funny thing is though she never connects the dots that Obama sat in a racist church for twenty years and he might therefore be a racist.Id say that does deserve an eye roll.

Doubtful since that's not what the thread was about

Why don't you start a thread about that topic and we can discuss whether your claim is even true or not

[BM OUT]

Doubtful since that's not what the thread was about

Why don't you start a thread about that topic and we can discuss whether your claim is even true or not

"MSN may have a liberal/progressive bias but they don't do anything like the shit that Fox does."

Thats your quote.Im responding to your assertion that MSNBC doesnt do stuff that FOX does and ACTUALLY GAVE AN EXAMPLE of exactly how they are worse then FOX.So,as long as your commenting on the fairness of MSNBC and the unfairness of FOX then I would think a response showing unfairness is valid.Wouldnt you?

[Straw Man]

"MSN may have a liberal/progressive bias but they don't do anything like the shit that Fox does."

Thats your quote.Im responding to your assertion that MSNBC doesnt do stuff that FOX does and ACTUALLY GAVE AN EXAMPLE of exactly how they are worse then FOX.So,as long as your commenting on the fairness of MSNBC and the unfairness of FOX then I would think a response showing unfairness is valid.Wouldnt you?

Here's my full quote - show me examples of how MSNBC does any of the things highlighted in red.

MSN may have a liberal/progressive bias but they don't do anything like the shit that Fox does.   Virtually every time there is a Republican scandal the person shows up on Fox with a "D" under his name.   Fox knows full well  that stuff like this is unnoticable to their half concious viewers and but it get's into their head.   Using phony crowd shots and editing out applause is just another step further.   This shit is all intentional.

MSNBC may have a progressive bias but they regulary go after Dems and I honestly don't think they bash Rand Paul and he went on their network to announce his candidacy so he must have thought they were OK at that time

There's just no comparison btw Fox and MSNBC (IMO)

Your example of Maddow is not the same and even more importantly we don't even know if what you're saying is true.  Start a thread about it and put up the tape of what you claim Maddow is saying and let's see if you're even correct but in the meatime please show me some examples of the "shit" that we know for a fact that Fox (as an entire organization has a history of doing)

[BM OUT]

Here's my full quote - show me examples of how MSNBC does any of the things highlighted in red.


Your example of Maddow is not the same and even more importantly we don't even know if what you're saying is true.  Start a thread about it and put up the tape of what you claim Maddow is saying and let's see if you're even correct but in the meatime please show me some examples of the "shit" that we know for a fact that Fox (as an entire organization has a history of doing)

We know for a fact that Maddow did three nights in a row on the Census worker that was found dead in KY.She implied for three nights in a row that it was a right wing anti government extremist who murdered the guy and that he was probably influenced by right wing extremists like Rush and Beck.Then,when it turned out that the gutless coward killed himself NOT A PEEP from Maddow.

Her interview with the guy from F.A.I.R is on her blog.SO,I  REALLY DONT GIVE A FLYING FUCK IF YOU BELIEVE IT OR NOT.Much like when 240 questions me,I always turn out to be right because I comment on things I see.I dont comment on things I see second handed on MSNBC or FOX as they give their slanted view of it.I actually see it the way it was on television,I dont need some host giving me his interpretation of it,like the libs on here do with FOX or Rush.

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Here is the interview.Now,keep in mind this is a women who NEVER would say Obama is a racist when he sat in a racist church for twenty years listening to rev. "dem jews" Wright,and who is on a network that interviews Sharpton and Jackson nearly  every week on issues of race.

http://www.thepoliticalcarnival.net/2010/04/video-rachel-maddow-eviscerates-fair/

[Straw Man]

We know for a fact that Maddow did three nights in a row on the Census worker that was found dead in KY.She implied for three nights in a row that it was a right wing anti government extremist who murdered the guy and that he was probably influenced by right wing extremists like Rush and Beck.Then,when it turned out that the gutless coward killed himself NOT A PEEP from Maddow.

Her interview with the guy from F.A.I.R is on her blog.SO,I  REALLY DONT GIVE A FLYING FUCK IF YOU BELIEVE IT OR NOT.Much like when 240 questions me,I always turn out to be right because I comment on things I see.I dont comment on things I see second handed on MSNBC or FOX as they give their slanted view of it.I actually see it the way it was on television,I dont need some host giving me his interpretation of it,like the libs on here do with FOX or Rush.

so you think Maddow asking the leader of FAIR about the written and spoken words of their founder is the same as altering tape, showing wrong tape, showing scandals ridden Repubs as Dems, etc... are the same thing

[Straw Man]

Here is the interview.Now,keep in mind this is a women who NEVER would say Obama is a racist when he sat in a racist church for twenty years listening to rev. "dem jews" Wright,and who is on a network that interviews Sharpton and Jackson nearly  every week on issues of race.
http://www.thepoliticalcarnival.net/2010/04/video-rachel-maddow-eviscerates-fair/

yep - I saw the interview when it happened. 

here's the next day follow up where she goes over all the lies by Dan Stein (president of FAIR) in the prior days interview. 

Again - feel free to point out any lies 

I'm still waiting for you to explain how asking a person about their organization and the written and spoken words of one of their founders is the same as altering video tape, showing video from one event and claiming it was from another event and the many many times that Fox has shown disgraced Repubilcan as a Democrat

[BM OUT]

yep - I saw the interview when it happened. 

here's the next day follow up where she goes over all the lies by Dan Stein (president of FAIR) in the prior days interview. 

Again - feel free to point out any lies 

I'm still waiting for you to explain how asking a person about their organization and the written and spoken words of one of their founders is the same as altering video tape, showing video from one event and claiming it was from another event and the many many times that Fox has shown disgraced Repubilcan as a Democrat

Ha,ha,ha and the guy isnt there to answer YES thats very fair.

Its very simple.You take quotes out of context and you imply an entire group is racist because of a few quotes over a 30 year span.Again,its EXACTLY the same thing as doctering up a video.If you take quotes out of context and sandbag a guy,then come on the air the next day and refute what the guy said AND DONT GIVE THE GUY A CHANCE TO ANSWER then your as guilty as if you sliced the tape and added in quotes.

Once again I ask,quotes from members of a group that SHE deems as racist[I frankly found none of it racist]makes an entire group racist,but sitting in a racist church for twenty years and listening to a sawed off racist spew his hate,being so inspired by the racist that you write a book based on his words,then saying you could never throw the racist under the bus,DOESNT make you a racist.But a couple of guys in a group making a statement or two that you see as racist makes the entire group racist.

If you cant see how this is the exact same thing as slicing video ,then I cant help you.Most would say taking quotes out of contect,sandbagging a guy with the quotes,then going on the air the next to day to dispute what the guy said but giving the guy no chance to respond,is the same thing as slicing video.

[Straw Man]

We know for a fact that Maddow did three nights in a row on the Census worker that was found dead in KY.She implied for three nights in a row that it was a right wing anti government extremist who murdered the guy and that he was probably influenced by right wing extremists like Rush and Beck.Then,when it turned out that the gutless coward killed himself NOT A PEEP from Maddow.

here's a "peep"

I barely looked and I found this clip of Maddow reporting that it was now being considered a suicide and said she would report back

mention of Sparkman and suicide is at ~ the 1:20 mark on the clip

[Straw Man]

Ha,ha,ha and the guy isnt there to answer YES thats very fair.

Its very simple.You take quotes out of context and you imply an entire group is racist because of a few quotes over a 30 year span.Again,its EXACTLY the same thing as doctering up a video.If you take quotes out of context and sandbag a guy,then come on the air the next day and refute what the guy said AND DONT GIVE THE GUY A CHANCE TO ANSWER then your as guilty as if you sliced the tape and added in quotes.

Once again I ask,quotes from members of a group that SHE deems as racist[I frankly found none of it racist]makes an entire group racist,but sitting in a racist church for twenty years and listening to a sawed off racist spew his hate,being so inspired by the racist that you write a book based on his words,then saying you could never throw racist under the bus,DOESNT make you a racist.But a couple of guys in a group making a statement or two that you see as racist makes the entire group racist.

If you cant see how this is the exact same thing as slicing video ,then I cant help you.Most would say taking quotes out of contect,sandbagging a guy with the quotes,then going on the air the next to day to dispute what the guy said but giving the guy no chance to respond,is the same thing as slicing video.

try mentioning something specific

did youw watch the video from the next day.

Seriously Billy - you've already shown us that you like being intentionally uniformed and misinformed so what's the point of trying to discuss actual, objective facts with you?

[Straw Man]

Ha,ha,ha and the guy isnt there to answer YES thats very fair.

Its very simple.You take quotes out of context and you imply an entire group is racist because of a few quotes over a 30 year span.Again,its EXACTLY the same thing as doctering up a video.If you take quotes out of context and sandbag a guy,then come on the air the next day and refute what the guy said AND DONT GIVE THE GUY A CHANCE TO ANSWER then your as guilty as if you sliced the tape and added in quotes.

the only problem with your theory is that it's not true.  The only person interrupting was Stein.  Maddow would start a question and he would get defensive and jump in.
She would give a statement by the founder of his organization or mention a factual association and he would deny it.   I don't remember hearing any quote by Maddow where she said or implied that the entire group was racist

btw - an interview with a person where he's being asked about written and spoken words which can be fact checked is not the same thing as showing bogus video or doctored video