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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: oldman on May 29, 2010, 08:23:25 AM
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here it is
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That's pretty disturbing... notice how Beverly nutrition is not on there.
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That's pretty disturbing... notice how Beverly nutrition is not on there.
yeah - I was thinking the same thing
I've only used Beverly for a long time and if you buy enough they give you a discount so the price is reasonable too
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yeah - I was thinking the same thing
I've only used Beverly for a long time and if you buy enough they give you a discount so the price is reasonable too
even with the discounts, beverly is still too expensive. I would like to try then sometime, but i cant justify spending $35 for 1.9 lbs of protein. I go to trueprotein.com
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That's pretty disturbing... notice how Beverly nutrition is not on there.
Well, just because its not on there, it doesn't mean beverly products don't contain metals. Like any other research study, they take a representative sample. For example, you can't study every cancer patient in the world when doing cancer research--but you study a few hundred, and try to generalize your results to the external population.
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even with the discounts, beverly is still too expensive. I would like to try then sometime, but i cant justify spending $35 for 1.9 lbs of protein. I go to trueprotein.com
I usually pay ~ 29 for Muscle Provider and ~ 27 for Ultimate Muscle Protein and sometimes they have 10% discounts on top of that
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I wonder how much of these metals appear in the foods we eat everyday for comparison.
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Sandy & Roger Riedinger of Beverly International .... Two exceptionally fine people within the supplement industry.
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what kind of purity is Champion Nutrition? That's what i use.
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That's pretty disturbing... notice how Beverly nutrition is not on there.
Maybe because Beverly doesn't contain any of the metals they are reporting on
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even with the discounts, beverly is still too expensive. I would like to try then sometime, but i cant justify spending $35 for 1.9 lbs of protein. I go to trueprotein.com
I sold more Beverly from my store in hawaii that any other store in hawaii. it is great stuff and Sandy and Roger are very good people. The retail price is maybe a little high but then again I got it at distributor price
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I wonder how much of these metals appear in the foods we eat everyday for comparison.
Predator fish are bad news for heavy metals, which sucks because swordfish is yummy.
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Most all sports nutrition protein powder comes from 4 major suppliers to the USA.
Most of you think that these companies create their own protein. Wrong, it's sourced and then mixed in house. Further more, only a few companies test every batch of their lots that come in. Even fewer third party test (and I know who they are). I would never buy anything that was not GMP certified and low sodium.
Some of these companies get into trouble with the preservative systems and additives when the manipulate the proteins. Thats where the freaky shit comes into play.
Frankly, the best shit on the market is Jay Rob or Biochem, imo. It's clean, sucralose free, wheat free, gluten free, lactose free, clean - etc.
For cheap shit (that has sucralose in it), I like TWINLAB (GMP certified) or Dymatize (also GMP cert and gluten free).
The trend in the marketplace by the industry leaders has been to clean up products. You will see this start to happen now. It's already happened with TWIN and a few others.
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I wonder how much of these metals appear in the foods we eat everyday for comparison.
A peice of fish in a res has about 2000 parts per billion of PCB or heavy metal(s). That is the acceptable level stated by the FDA.
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You don`t need any of this garbage. Just eat food.
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what kind of purity is Champion Nutrition? That's what i use.
Decent at best.
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Predator fish are bad news for heavy metals, which sucks because swordfish is yummy.
Any fish with a long lifespan is bad news, frankly.
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Maybe because Beverly doesn't contain any of the metals they are reporting on
They didn't test every brand. They only tested a handful.
Beverly, like everyone else, starts with the same ingredients (unless they create their own stuff from scratch, which they dont).
They prob use one of the better sources available.
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A peice of fish in a res has about 2000 parts per billion of PCB or heavy metal(s). That is the acceptable level stated by the FDA.
A piece of shit has 13,552 posts. Hope this helps.
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A piece of shit has 13,552 posts. Hope this helps.
You have no credibility. No one takes you seriously and you've yet to take Mindspin up on his offer to fly you out to Cali to debate Dr Connelly.
Fraud.
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You have no credibility. No one takes you seriously and you've yet to take Mindspin up on his offer to fly you out to Cali to debate Dr Connelly.
Fraud.
There never was any offer, middle management. Connelly never bothered to sign up here or contact me.
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There never was any offer, middle management.
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I would like to invite the True Adonis to fly out to Newport Beach, CA to meet with Dr. Scott Connelly, and have an open debate on the whole "calorie is a calorie" issue.
Adonis, I'll fly you to CA & put you up in a nice hotel. You can bring Jezebelle. You can then come to Dr. Connelly's house in Coronal del Mar, and have a fun debate. We'll video tape the whole thing and put it up on YouTube.
What do you say? Let's pick some days and make it happen.
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There never was any offer, middle management. Connelly never bothered to sign up here or contact me.
Stick and move...stick and move. See the post above.
Mindspin offered to fly you out to Cali, put you up in a nice hotel..allowed you to bring a consultant and also your girlfriend. This would be a perfect time for you to school an industry legend on your theories and beliefs.
You've yet to accept.
You childish attacks and nonsense further fracture your credibility.
If you think I'm going to get into a insult war with you, or be "owned", you're wasting your time.
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Mindspin is not Scott Connelly.
Hope this helps. Furthermore, he was to sign up here and contact me, either of which NEVER happened. Sorry Charlie, you have the facts all wrong.
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You don`t need any of this garbage. Just eat food.
you must be a big guy
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LULZ
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Mindspin is not Scott Connelly.
Hope this helps. Furthermore, he was to sign up here and contact me, either of which NEVER happened. Sorry Charlie, you have the facts all wrong.
you claimed there was no offer. mindspin made an offer. are you now saying that connelly has to contact you for there to be an offer?
adonis, if connelly contacts you will you take the free trip to debate?
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Stick and move...stick and move. See the post above.
Mindspin offered to fly you out to Cali, put you up in a nice hotel..allowed you to bring a consultant and also your girlfriend. This would be a perfect time for you to school an industry legend on your theories and beliefs.
You've yet to accept.
You childish attacks and nonsense further fracture your credibility.
If you think I'm going to get into a insult war with you, or be "owned", you're wasting your time.
Uh, no mention of being able to bring any consultant was ever mentioned. I find it rather amusing how some dullards, such as yourself are easily misled and believe your own bias and mythological nonsense.
I have an affinity for owning minds and its just that much simpler when you merely do it to yourself. :D
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"My names James Blunt and I workout 6 days a week"
"Hi, James!"
"My clean date is 9-24-07....., I haven't had a protein drink or No-Explode for over 2 years."
*Applause*
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you claimed there was no offer. mindspin made an offer. are you now saying that connelly has to contact you for there to be an offer?
adonis, if connelly contacts you will you take the free trip to debate?
Yeah like a famous doctor with published books and the former head of one of the biggest supplement companies in the world would waste his spit on an internet nobody like adam... ::) ::)
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You don`t need any of this garbage. Just eat food.
X2 you dont really know what they are putting into this shit could be flour or sawdust.
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Yeah like a famous doctor with published books and the former head of one of the biggest supplement companies in the world would waste his spit on an internet nobody like adam... ::) ::)
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http://www.amazon.ca/Body-Rx-Scott-Connelly/dp/0399147829
For bulk-and-tan bodybuilders trying to justify spending half a paycheck on powders/capsules/bars, they'll LOVE this book. Anyone who's actually serious about overall health and fitness - especially women - will be disappointed. I tried this book and all I got were fatter hips and a thinner wallet.
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Uh, no mention of being able to bring any consultant was ever mentioned. I find it rather amusing how some dullards, such as yourself are easily misled and believe your own bias and mythological nonsense.
I have an affinity for owning minds and its just that much simpler when you merely do it to yourself. :D
Which is why you spend all your time insulting people on an internet bodybuilding forum.
No credibility...none.
Adonis, no one takes you seriously. No one thinks you are smart or clever. That is 100% fact.
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http://www.amazon.ca/Body-Rx-Scott-Connelly/dp/0399147829
For bulk-and-tan bodybuilders trying to justify spending half a paycheck on powders/capsules/bars, they'll LOVE this book. Anyone who's actually serious about overall health and fitness - especially women - will be disappointed. I tried this book and all I got were fatter hips and a thinner wallet.
I didn't like the book because it was a carbon copy of the Body For Life books
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By Joe Burke (Springfield, OR USA) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Body Rx (Hardcover)
Originally, I was very interested in reading Body Rx. All the reviews I had read were very positive. I asked my wife to buy the book for my B-day. I started the plan in early February & was religious with diet. I've lifted weights 4-5 times a week for 14 years. For the last 10 years I've maintainted relatively the same body: weight (200-208), physique, and body fat content(10-12%).
I was hoping that Body Rx might help me change my body fat content and drop me sub 10%. I have traditionally been a big carbohydrate eater. I've always eaten a lot of protein as well, but not nearly as much as Dr. Connelly suggests. As a balance to the large carbohydrate consumption, I tortured myself with long cardio routines to burn calories. After reading Dr. Connelly's book, he insists that cardio is no longer necessary, and if anything, is actually detrimental to obtaining the long term results that a strong weight training regimen can achieve. I've always been heavy on the weights and also with the cardio. But, I decided to knock out all cardiovascular exercise and concentrate sqaurely on weight lifting.
After the first 6 week cycle, I ballooned to 218 pounds. I won't lie, it wasn't muscle. I was eating the carbs he suggested and ate nothing with fructose corn syrup. There was such a large intake of food that I continually ate past the point of being full just to get my daily protein requirements.
After the second 6 week cycle, determined that this routine must work, I continued on with the same desire and fervor. At the beginning of Dr. Connelly's book, he suggests throwing away your scale. That's a little unrealistic. I was at 216 pounds at the end of cycle 2.
I stuck through the 3rd cycle, figuring that the large increase in protein and subsequent decrease in carbs would be enough for me to lose the weight I had gained (not muscle). I did lose 4 pounds over that cycle which is an adequate loss over a 6 week period. However, I was still heavier an no leaner (12% body fat) than I had ever been. I sure as heck didn't have any 6 pack. I didn't even attempt the last cycle (maintaining your new body) because it just didn't make sense to enter an unproductive cycle in which I had made no significant gains.[/size]
The bottom line: Every body is different. No one plan works for every person.
I tried the Body Rx workout, though I substituted my own exercises for his suggested exercises. His plan actually forced me to gear down in my overall intensity. I think this book may help someone who is not used to working out or is more out of shape than I am. My suggestion: don't drop your cardio routine while working through the suggested cycles. Also, buy stock in your local chicken farm. If you don't take or can't afford the massive supplements he recommends, you'll be buying a lot of chicken and shrimp (super green proteins). I'd previously never been into supplements prior to this plan, but I had to start with a protein supplement just to make quota each day.
The book is an easy read. The plan is relatively easy to follow; it's very basic. As for toning up: maybe if you're basically an inactive person to begin with. But, then again, do you really need a book to know that overindulging on carbs and not getting exercise is a bad combination.
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2.0 out of 5 stars Not the bible on nutrition, Oct 26 2003
By A Customer
This review is from: Body Rx (Paperback)
I agree with some of the principles of this book. It provides a basic weight lifting regimen divided into 6 week goals. It also advocates a lean protein, low fat, high fiber diet; dividing carbohydrates/protein into green, yellow, and red. Some of these recommendations are consistent with the Therapeutic Lifestyle Changes recommendations which were designed for the reduction of LDL cholesterol. The author recommends avoiding the overconsumption of sugar and in particular high fructose corn syrup.
This books advocates eating as much as you want as long as it's the right foods. I gained weight with this program with an expanded waistline and feel that you should not deprive your body of foods but you can't eat an unlimited quantity of foods. Although not directly marketing his MET-Rx formulations, the author's protein requirements(which are excessive) are difficult to meet without using these supplemental products and eating too many calories. Although a medical doctor, the author has a vested interest in his recommendations and hence his advice is biased. His assertion that you can get the same benefits from weightlifting alone as cardiovascular exercise is questionable.
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Hey Adonis, I'm curious if your theory was influenced by Arthur Jones' ideas regarding calories, weight gain/weight loss?
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A piece of shit has 13,552 posts. Hope this helps.
I don't understand this. You have over twenty thousand posts. What is your point?
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Hey Adonis, I'm curious if your theory was influenced by Arthur Jones' ideas regarding calories, weight gain/weight loss?
Not at all. Just simply peer-reviewed experiments and published Journals. I don`t trust uncontrolled Bro-Science whatsoever.
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Mindspin is not Scott Connelly.
Hope this helps. Furthermore, he was to sign up here and contact me, either of which NEVER happened. Sorry Charlie, you have the facts all wrong.
It's interesting that you CONSTANTLY avoid any situation presented to you, Adonis.
It happened with the Tom Prince weigh-in deal that Chick took you up on.
It's now happened (and continues to) with Connelly. You are avoiding the opportunity of a lifetime.
There was an offer, plain and simple. Boonasty quoted the very post, even highlighted it for you. You said you wanted Jezebelle to be at your side, that request was granted. Then you wanted some other guru to be with you, and while it was frowned upon it was accepted. After that, Adonis, you asked why Mindspin can't just have Connelly sign up here and debate any issues- and as far as we know Scott is waiting on his approval from Ron.
When one issue arises, Adonis finds a way to avoid it. He'll use some fancy words to insult people (which I will give him credit for, I've stolen some fifty-cent words from him, no matter how mendacious he can be), he'll copy and paste articles (used to claim the articles to be his own...at least he now pastes the full article, author and all) and do ANYTHING possible to AVOID confrontation.
You've been doing it for years you fucker, you know it, GetBig knows it, and you always will. Do something different for once and shut us all up.
Start with accepting the challenge and sit in the same room with Mindspin, Jezebelle, Connelly and whatever other entourage you seem to request.
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I don't understand this. You have over twenty thousand posts. What is your point?
There is no point...and all stuff like that does is further damage his credability.
We all know Adonis is full of shit.
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oh god not this again. Apenis has been outed so many times and he comes back for more. I have a feeling Apenis and Goodrum drink out of the same cup.
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connoly looks like a fraud
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Mindspin is not Scott Connelly.
Hope this helps. Furthermore, he was to sign up here and contact me, either of which NEVER happened. Sorry Charlie, you have the facts all wrong.
Shut it fraud....you're going the way of Fatdaddy and Pumpster.....happens to alll you longtimers who are full of sh*t......Getbig smells blood and its going for the kill......the end is near
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adonis arent you using some protein powders to meet the daily protein requirements, you said that a couple of times, you stopped?
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adonis arent you using some protein powders to meet the daily protein requirements, you said that a couple of times, you stopped?
Someone at the gym usually gives me things for free, such as Musclemilks or protein Bars, its pretty rare that I will waste my calories on them, but I think MuscleMilk tastes pretty good ice cold.
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It's interesting that you CONSTANTLY avoid any situation presented to you, Adonis.
It happened with the Tom Prince weigh-in deal that Chick took you up on.
It's now happened (and continues to) with Connelly. You are avoiding the opportunity of a lifetime.
There was an offer, plain and simple. Boonasty quoted the very post, even highlighted it for you. You said you wanted Jezebelle to be at your side, that request was granted. Then you wanted some other guru to be with you, and while it was frowned upon it was accepted. After that, Adonis, you asked why Mindspin can't just have Connelly sign up here and debate any issues- and as far as we know Scott is waiting on his approval from Ron.
When one issue arises, Adonis finds a way to avoid it. He'll use some fancy words to insult people (which I will give him credit for, I've stolen some fifty-cent words from him, no matter how mendacious he can be), he'll copy and paste articles (used to claim the articles to be his own...at least he now pastes the full article, author and all) and do ANYTHING possible to AVOID confrontation.
You've been doing it for years you fucker, you know it, GetBig knows it, and you always will. Do something different for once and shut us all up.
Start with accepting the challenge and sit in the same room with Mindspin, Jezebelle, Connelly and whatever other entourage you seem to request.
Sorry, I wouldn`t consider anything regarding Supplements or meeting the people behind peddling such trash as being any kind of highlight whatsoever. Maybe for you since you are continually hoodwinked, but not those of us who know better.
A memorable thing to me would be to visit with Gore Vidal or Richard Dawkins.
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It's interesting that you CONSTANTLY avoid any situation presented to you, Adonis.
It happened with the Tom Prince weigh-in deal that Chick took you up on.
It's now happened (and continues to) with Connelly. You are avoiding the opportunity of a lifetime.
There was an offer, plain and simple. Boonasty quoted the very post, even highlighted it for you. You said you wanted Jezebelle to be at your side, that request was granted. Then you wanted some other guru to be with you, and while it was frowned upon it was accepted. After that, Adonis, you asked why Mindspin can't just have Connelly sign up here and debate any issues- and as far as we know Scott is waiting on his approval from Ron.
When one issue arises, Adonis finds a way to avoid it. He'll use some fancy words to insult people (which I will give him credit for, I've stolen some fifty-cent words from him, no matter how mendacious he can be), he'll copy and paste articles (used to claim the articles to be his own...at least he now pastes the full article, author and all) and do ANYTHING possible to AVOID confrontation.
You've been doing it for years you fucker, you know it, GetBig knows it, and you always will. Do something different for once and shut us all up.
Start with accepting the challenge and sit in the same room with Mindspin, Jezebelle, Connelly and whatever other entourage you seem to request.
Nothing was accepted regarding any "guru" and furthermore Connelly was supposed to sign up and post or contact me and these things never happened.
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phew... isopure is not on the list
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There is no point...and all stuff like that does is further damage his credability.
We all know Adonis is full of shit.
cut and paste,,,repeat ,insult,its t.a's m.o.,,,,,,
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here it is
we all need small amount of lead mercury and arsenic for healthy living, this chart proves nothing only that bsn sells the best stuff at the safest ratio.
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Nothing was accepted regarding any "guru" and furthermore Connelly was supposed to sign up and post or contact me and these things never happened.
Actually Dr Connelly didn't even know about it to agree to anything. That was all Mindspin.
Here's something to laugh at. When I met him a few years ago at the Olympia regarding the reason he had Progenex sponsor the Mr Getbig, he had no idea what I was talking about and when I explained it, he thought that he was sponsoring a contest for a major publication..... ;D
I will say the Dr Connelly is a smart guy and he knows a lot of great things when you speak with him in person. Same with Will Brink, he's a mad genius. That's prob why RX Muscle interviews him all the time on Heavy Muscle Radio
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phew... isopure is not on the list
Because it wasn't tested. Only a handful of brands were tested.
Isopure is ok, but it has a boatload of sodium in it. Look at the label.
If you like isolate, try Biochem. It's the same protein source, but none of the added crap and way lower sodium content.
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Where are protein powerder sourced from. Is it China? Tha's probably why they contain concerning levels of toxic metals.
Most are from the USA.
There are four main sources that are used by 99 percent of the supplement industry. Once those ingredients come in, thats where things change. Additives, preservative systems - etc.
Often times, shitty creatine is sourced from China. The high quality stuff is sourced from Germany.
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You really should be a politician or military official with how you can avoid direct questions asked of you. You remind me of a teenage girl- your mouth is moving and you're saying a whole lot of words, but the sentences are empty and you just come across as a bunch of hot air.
Sorry, I wouldn`t consider anything regarding Supplements or meeting the people behind peddling such trash as being any kind of highlight whatsoever. Maybe for you since you are continually hoodwinked, but not those of us who know better.
How the fuck would you know if I'm hoodwinked or not? Don't write checks your mouth can't cash, you already do that enough. You can't make an assumption, because in this case, you're wrong.
Nothing was accepted regarding any "guru" and furthermore Connelly was supposed to sign up and post or contact me and these things never happened.
Another duck and move, duck and move, bob and weave.
You made stipulations after all your other requests were granted. Connelly signing up here is just another way for you to bide your time and find another was to slither out of the debate.
Again, you've done this multiple times over the years. This is nothing new. Same show, same channel, different topic. From Tom Prince's body weight, the 112 rep deadlift, Dr. Connelly's debate...you continue to avoid issues, yet love to stir the pot.
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"My names James Blunt and I workout 6 days a week"
"Hi, James!"
"My clean date is 9-24-07....., I haven't had a protein drink or No-Explode for over 2 years."
*Applause*
Congrats bro....