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Title: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: MoralMan on May 30, 2010, 04:48:40 AM
and the world will care about bboxing again and UFC will die!
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: dj181 on May 30, 2010, 04:57:39 AM
Amen brother! Boxing is also known as the "sweet science" and I couldn't agree more
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Jaime on May 30, 2010, 05:39:17 AM
UFC is getting exposed for what it is, a bunch of wrestlers and bjj guys who just want to roll around the whole fight and some F -grade strikers.
The crowd boos everytime it goes to ground and cheers when they are trading, even it's own fans are confused. Cut out all of the hype and false macho stuff and you have a very boring sport. It will hopefully dissapear soon, along with it's hillbilly fans
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: devilsmile on May 30, 2010, 06:01:43 AM
UFC is getting exposed for what it is, a bunch of wrestlers and bjj guys who just want to roll around the whole fight and some F -grade strikers.
The crowd boos everytime it goes to ground and cheers when they are trading, even it's own fans are confused. Cut out all of the hype and false macho stuff and you have a very boring sport. It will hopefully dissapear soon, along with it's hillbilly fans

this is so true... the training camp videos  with rashad vs rampage was cool but the fight itself... 3 rounds, rofl...

you never had this kind of boredom in pride fc... I say bring back pride fc
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: G_Thang on May 30, 2010, 06:07:48 AM
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: balight on May 30, 2010, 06:24:31 AM
And this jiu-jitsu is the best martial art bullshit is also... bullshit :P Fights on the street rarely happen just between two people, and you usually dont want to go down to the dirty ground...
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on May 30, 2010, 06:27:17 AM
MMA's actual striking skills are about equivilent to a amateur boxer with under 10 bouts under his belt lol
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: che on May 30, 2010, 06:28:58 AM
The UFC will not die soon.
There are good(exciting)  and bad (boring ) matches in every single sport.
I hope the hype die soon, UFC nuthuggers think that any guy that fights in the UFC is a world beater  ::)
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on May 30, 2010, 06:40:43 AM
UFC is getting exposed for what it is, a bunch of wrestlers and bjj guys who just want to roll around the whole fight and some F -grade strikers.
The crowd boos everytime it goes to ground and cheers when they are trading, even it's own fans are confused. Cut out all of the hype and false macho stuff and you have a very boring sport. It will hopefully dissapear soon, along with it's hillbilly fans


there is NOTHING lamer in the world then being trendy.......MMA is trendy right now, and the adolescents who populate its fanbase like it because its what they think they should be into right now.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: claymore on May 30, 2010, 07:58:55 AM

there is NOTHING lamer in the world then being trendy.......MMA is trendy right now, and the adolescents who populate its fanbase like it because its what they think they should be into right now.

100% accurate
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Darren Avey on May 30, 2010, 08:17:16 AM
I dont like UFC but HW boxing at the moment!! The "heavyweight championship of the world" last night between Vitali K and Albert Soznowski sucked too!
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: ThaRealist on May 30, 2010, 08:41:48 AM
MMA is more exciting than most boxing matches....Boxing hasn't been exciting since the Tyson days
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Jaime on May 30, 2010, 08:51:05 AM
MMA is more exciting than most boxing matches....Boxing hasn't been exciting since the Tyson days


Yeah, Tyson was the only exciting boxer in history. ::) Heavy was weak then and it's weak now.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Jake_W on May 30, 2010, 10:28:39 AM
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Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Army of One on May 30, 2010, 10:30:31 AM
MMA is more exciting than most boxing matches....Boxing hasn't been exciting since the Tyson days

Pacman?Calzaghe?Hamed?Young Roy Jones?Micky Ward?Barrera?Marquez?Nigel Benn?McClellan?Jackson?etc etc Typical non fan who only watches the heavyweight fights the media spoonfeed him.

Sick Nigel Benn video btw of Nigel Benn for any Americans who never heard of him

Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: spinnis on May 30, 2010, 10:35:55 AM
Tyson was at the ufc event
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Earl1972 on May 30, 2010, 10:40:11 AM
mma was cooler when it was more underground, almost like bodybuilding :)

who is the next tyson?  all i see is a bunch of guys that weigh less than american women

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Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Army of One on May 30, 2010, 10:53:00 AM
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Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Mussolini on May 30, 2010, 10:59:44 AM
Funny, boxing fans have been saying this since 1997. Looks like MMA keeps growing in popularity, and is the number 2 sport in Japan.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Army of One on May 30, 2010, 11:02:15 AM
Funny, boxing fans have been saying this since 1997. Looks like MMA keeps growing in popularity, and is the number 2 sport in Japan.

Of course, because any skinnyfat idiot can put on a set of tapout gloves and call themseleves a fighter, and not have to have the god given talent of a boxer.Boxing suffers because its so dangerous, 99% of people want no part of stepping in a ring with trained boxers, too much risk of broken bones, brain damage death etc.Boxing suffers in the public eye due to its brutality.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Darren Avey on May 30, 2010, 11:24:36 AM
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: ThaRealist on May 30, 2010, 11:41:29 AM
Its funny how these boxing nuthuggers giving no credit at all to mma....I enjoy watching boxing and mma...to many of these boxers are trying to just score points and make the fight unexciting and drawn out
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: James Blunt on May 30, 2010, 12:04:23 PM
UFC will never die.

Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: pellius on May 30, 2010, 12:22:47 PM
MMA's actual striking skills are about equivilent to a amateur boxer with under 10 bouts under his belt lol

And a boxers ground skills are nil. What's your point?
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: pellius on May 30, 2010, 12:24:54 PM
UFC is getting exposed for what it is, a bunch of wrestlers and bjj guys who just want to roll around the whole fight and some F -grade strikers.
The crowd boos everytime it goes to ground and cheers when they are trading, even it's own fans are confused. Cut out all of the hype and false macho stuff and you have a very boring sport. It will hopefully dissapear soon, along with it's hillbilly fans

Exposed? It never was any secret that MMA fighters go to the ground.

It's the fastest growing sport.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: pellius on May 30, 2010, 12:29:14 PM
Its funny how these boxing nuthuggers giving no credit at all to mma....I enjoy watching boxing and mma...to many of these boxers are trying to just score points and make the fight unexciting and drawn out

I think a lot of insecure folks are intimindated by MMA fighters. They realize that it's bodybuilding that's being exposed and fighters know that being big and muscular by itself means very little in a fight. Walking around with your arms out and chest puffed up just illicits laughter and ridicule nowadays.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: James Blunt on May 30, 2010, 01:51:44 PM
I think a lot of insecure folks are intimindated by MMA fighters. They realize that it's bodybuilding that's being exposed and fighters know that being big and muscular by itself means very little in a fight. Walking around with your arms out and chest puffed up just illicits laughter and ridicule nowadays.
;D yes.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: FREAKgeek on May 30, 2010, 02:19:19 PM
this is so true... the training camp videos  with rashad vs rampage was cool but the fight itself... 3 rounds, rofl...

you never had this kind of boredom in pride fc... I say bring back pride fc


I was a fan of Pride but come on. They could have 10 - 15 min rounds with one guy laying on top of another with no ref breakup.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Earl1972 on May 30, 2010, 03:32:06 PM
. Walking around with your arms out and chest puffed up just illicits laughter and ridicule nowadays.

who does this?  jealous fat people?

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Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: devilsmile on May 30, 2010, 04:42:00 PM

I was a fan of Pride but come on. They could have 10 - 15 min rounds with one guy laying on top of another with no ref breakup.

you're right, dipending on the sittuation though, kinda overexaggarated statement, though... and I'm aware that UFC champs has beaten pride fighters, but the atmosphere and action was more interesting... it's like ufc is all about bad boxing/good wrestling

pride fc was 10 times what ufc could ever be... fact



UFC is fucking broke, 2 dollar chairs 01:31 HAHAHA, dana white got pissed at brock



ufc never was like this

Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: dustin on May 30, 2010, 06:13:37 PM
I love boxing and MMA, but you have to understand that you can't give the two a direct comparison. They're way different. And YES, boxers are a trillion times better at BOXING than mixed martial artists... I'd sure hope so too, because you can't expect to take someone down and try subbing them in a boxing match.

This is the most retarded subject on Earth. I can't believe you fags still argue about this shit. MMA will only get bigger and bigger. Boxing has more money but far less attention. I still follow it loosely but wake up already.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: che on May 30, 2010, 06:17:28 PM
Boxing has more money but far less attention.

Where is that money coming  from?
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: dustin on May 30, 2010, 06:22:57 PM
Where is that money coming  from?

I think I know where this is going. The MMA pay scale is fucked up and the sport has it's problems, plus it has a much larger ratios of fucking ass bags that follow it too. But I like it still. You don't have to follow the trends. Just ignore the Tapout/TUF homos and it's all good.

I like watching a lot of the Japanese stuff and K1 as well.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: hmontaq on May 30, 2010, 07:48:40 PM

there is NOTHING lamer in the world then being trendy.......MMA is trendy right now, and the adolescents who populate its fanbase like it because its what they think they should be into right now.

Unfortunately people that get tattoos forget they are for life than the trend thats been going on
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: hmontaq on May 30, 2010, 07:49:22 PM


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Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Bodybuilding Related on May 30, 2010, 07:59:29 PM
If dudes would stop focusing on taking dumps on chests nuggas wouldn't get in sichuations like dis naw mean?

Big Dicked Bob could be president if he just set his mind to it. 
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: pellius on May 30, 2010, 08:03:30 PM
UFC broke? They just sold 10% of the company to an investor for 100 million.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: pellius on May 30, 2010, 08:04:48 PM

I was a fan of Pride but come on. They could have 10 - 15 min rounds with one guy laying on top of another with no ref breakup.

Japan are far more educated in martial and ground fighting. All you see is two guys lying around. Not in Japan and not with people familiar with the ground game.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 30, 2010, 08:14:50 PM
X2
Chuck Norris will whip all their asses.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: bigkubby on May 31, 2010, 12:36:55 AM
dude UFC IS FUKING STUPID!!!! A BUNCH OF IDIOTS WRESTLING GRABBING EACH OTHERS NUTTS ON THE GROUND!! THROW SOME BLOWS LIKE MEN!!! TOO MANY FIGHTERS AND FRANKLY NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT THEM BUT INSECURE PUSSIES WITH LITTLE DIKS!! GET MY DRIFT ! ::)
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: devilsmile on May 31, 2010, 12:40:45 AM
dude UFC IS FUKING STUPID!!!! A BUNCH OF IDIOTS WRESTLING GRABBING EACH OTHERS NUTTS ON THE GROUND!! THROW SOME BLOWS LIKE MEN!!! TOO MANY FIGHTERS AND FRANKLY NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT THEM BUT INSECURE PUSSIES WITH LITTLE DIKS!! GET MY DRIFT, naw Me4n!11 ! ::)

fixed the most important part to make the last nail on the coffin
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: pellius on May 31, 2010, 02:36:49 AM
dude UFC IS FUKING STUPID!!!! A BUNCH OF IDIOTS WRESTLING GRABBING EACH OTHERS NUTTS ON THE GROUND!! THROW SOME BLOWS LIKE MEN!!! TOO MANY FIGHTERS AND FRANKLY NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT THEM BUT INSECURE PUSSIES WITH LITTLE DIKS!! GET MY DRIFT ! ::)

Calm down, queer. UFC is the fastest growing sport and a huuuuge cash cow. Millions all over the world give a shit. What gets me about insecure pussies like you is that why do you care? If you don't follow the sport or care about it why the melt down? I don't follow football or baseball and it doesn't bother me whether other people do.

And real fights often end up on the ground. Deal with it. You can throw all the blows you want when on the ground "like a man" but that ain't going to do shit. And I'd be curious to see how manly you become when I snap your arm or choke you unconscious..

There's a button on your TV remote to change channels and another button to turn the set off. Use it.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: _bruce_ on May 31, 2010, 03:16:18 AM
Both are interesting - though I prefer boxing.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Darren Avey on May 31, 2010, 10:49:06 AM
Calm down, queer. UFC is the fastest growing sport and a huuuuge cash cow. Millions all over the world give a shit. What gets me about insecure pussies like you is that why do you care? If you don't follow the sport or care about it why the melt down? I don't follow football or baseball and it doesn't bother me whether other people do.

And real fights often end up on the ground. Deal with it. You can throw all the blows you want when on the ground "like a man" but that ain't going to do shit. And I'd be curious to see how manly you become when I snap your arm or choke you unconscious..

There's a button on your TV remote to change channels and another button to turn the set off. Use it.



Hahhahaahaha you always threaten people on here, one day you ll do it to the wrong person!
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: pellius on May 31, 2010, 12:10:06 PM

Hahhahaahaha you always threaten people on here, one day you ll do it to the wrong person!

Always? It's only to loud mouths like you which means always the right person.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: dustin on May 31, 2010, 06:31:00 PM
Japan are far more educated in martial and ground fighting. All you see is two guys lying around. Not in Japan and not with people familiar with the ground game.

Exactly. They appreciate a good chess match on the ground. Jiu Jitsu did originate in Japan after all. And if shit gets boring, their refs stand it up fast. If they don't push the bill, they get dinged for it and lose a percentage of their fight purse.

Boring ground matches? They don't exist in Japan. In the United States and in other countries, you can dry hump your opponent for the duration of the fight and exploit the 10 point must system. Lay and pray artists don't stand a chance. It's too bad that MMA isn't as big as it once was there. I'm loving Dream and some of the mainstream organizations there. They've been putting on excellent events.

On that note, Dynamite!! 2009 by FEG was one of the best MMA events I had ever seen in my life. Watched it from start to finish on HDNet and virtually every match was awesome 8)
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Darren Avey on June 01, 2010, 10:38:16 AM
Always? It's only to loud mouths like you which means always the right person.

Yeh and i laugh at your threats you pathetic little girl!
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: pellius on June 01, 2010, 11:16:38 AM
Yeh and i laugh at your threats you pathetic little girl!

Only because I'm not there in person. Otherwise you would be the little girl: on your knees, crying, desperately clawing at my zipper, begging to blow me.
 
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: leadhead on June 01, 2010, 11:25:17 AM
I watched UFC back in the day when it was underground and they had HW atheletes who would fight stand-up. Boxing is king on my book and I would love to see the next Tyson arise. I hope the fad of MMA dies soon
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: ThaRealist on June 01, 2010, 03:05:48 PM
I watched UFC back in the day when it was underground and they had HW atheletes who would fight stand-up. Boxing is king on my book and I would love to see the next Tyson arise. I hope the fad of MMA dies soon


Wait for the boxing experts to come running claiming Tyson wasn't shit and he was takin easily....MMA won't die anytime soon, its exciting, technical and draws a young and old crowd...
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: MindSpin on June 01, 2010, 03:23:44 PM
The sport of "punching" vs the sport of "fighting".  Boxing has been surpassed by MMA and will never recover.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: FREAKgeek on June 01, 2010, 03:23:49 PM
UFC is getting exposed for what it is, a bunch of wrestlers and bjj guys who just want to roll around the whole fight and some F -grade strikers.
The crowd boos everytime it goes to ground and cheers when they are trading, even it's own fans are confused. Cut out all of the hype and false macho stuff and you have a very boring sport. It will hopefully dissapear soon, along with it's hillbilly fans

and what about your lightweight boxers that never KO their opponents and go the distance. You're telling me that's exciting?
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on June 01, 2010, 03:25:40 PM
The sport of "punching" vs the sport of "fighting".  Boxing has been surpassed by MMA and will never recover.

Boxing has been surpassed?
haha what planet are u living on
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: MindSpin on June 01, 2010, 03:26:56 PM
Boxing has been surpassed?
haha what planet are u living on

The planet where facts matter.  Check the numbers buddy...
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on June 01, 2010, 03:27:17 PM
when a guy like Chuck Liddel and others excel in a sport like MMA you know the field doesnt have alot of talent
These guys would be tomatoe cans in boxing
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: ThaRealist on June 01, 2010, 03:31:45 PM
and what about your lightweight boxers that never KO their opponents and go the distance. You're telling me that's exciting?
Boxing has been surpassed?
haha what planet are u living on

Boxing has not yet been surpassed, but I feel it will be...Boxing is to one dimensional to keep peoples' attention for the long run....Why do you think MMA exploded when it came onto scene?? Boxing has been around basically since men competed against one another for sport...MMA gives fighting for sport a more complex audience appreciating that one man can beat another with more than just his fists....
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: ThaRealist on June 01, 2010, 03:35:16 PM
when a guy like Chuck Liddel and others excel in a sport like MMA you know the field doesnt have alot of talent
These guys would be tomatoe cans in boxing

As boxers would be weeping boys to BJJ blackbelts, wrestlers and  kick boxers......How many golden glove boxers have dominated in MMA when they couldn't make any money in boxing???
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Jaime on June 01, 2010, 03:52:13 PM
As boxers would be weeping boys to BJJ blackbelts, wrestlers and  kick boxers......How many golden glove boxers have dominated in MMA when they couldn't make any money in boxing???



If you can't make any money in boxing then you are not a good boxer. Golden Gloves is amateur, the amateurs that don't succeed are the guys without the power or durability to make the pro ranks, pitty patty amateur style boxing is not a good crossover style.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: big L dawg on June 01, 2010, 03:57:30 PM
Ha ha...gotta love the idiocracy of the thread title..."The UFC will soon die"as if the UFC is a sport....Ufc is a company...MMA is a sport...And it's no Fad it's here to stay...As a matter of fact it isn't even close to being what it will be...When a generation of kids/teenagers grow into adults and have seen the sport evolve and grew up watching it.which will give them the warm fuzzy feelin inside the way the boxing dinosaurs are when talking Ali,Foreman,Frazier,and joe Louis...At that point (next 5-10 years)MMA will explode in popularity far more than what it is now...
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Jaime on June 01, 2010, 04:02:11 PM
Ha ha...gotta love the idiocracy of the thread title..."The UFC will soon die"as if the UFC is a sport....Ufc is a company...MMA is a sport...And it's no Fad it's here to stay...As a matter of fact it isn't even close to being what it will be...When a generation of kids/teenagers grow into adults and have seen the sport evolve and grew up watching it.which will give them the warm fuzzy feelin inside the way the boxing dinosaurs are when talking Ali,Foreman,Frazier,and joe Louis...At that point (next 5-10 years)MMA will explode in popularity far more than what it is now...



UFC is MMA. It is the only promotion that makes money. In japan all of the big promotions have folded, the same pattern has happened elsewhere, without the UFC there is no MMA.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: ThaRealist on June 01, 2010, 04:15:56 PM


If you can't make any money in boxing then you are not a good boxer. Golden Gloves is amateur, the amateurs that don't succeed are the guys without the power or durability to make the pro ranks, pitty patty amateur style boxing is not a good crossover style.

Okay, watch how they "groom" these boxers these days, throwing them lay down fight after fight just to get them "experience"....You know what is great about MMA is that a guy can have 5 fights under his belt and get a shot at someone with more experience to make some money...I am not making this stuff up, talk to anyone that knows anything about boxing and they will tell you that these days a boxer that has any talent will have 20+ fights before he is let a shot a bigger and better things, how exciting is that??? Look I like both boxing and MMA, but the boxing nuthuggers need to grow up and realize which direction prize fighting is going in
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Jaime on June 01, 2010, 04:26:08 PM
Okay, watch how they "groom" these boxers these days, throwing them lay down fight after fight just to get them "experience"....You know what is great about MMA is that a guy can have 5 fights under his belt and get a shot at someone with more experience to make some money...I am not making this stuff up, talk to anyone that knows anything about boxing and they will tell you that these days a boxer that has any talent will have 20+ fights before he is let a shot a bigger and better things, how exciting is that??? Look I like both boxing and MMA, but the boxing nuthuggers need to grow up and realize which direction prize fighting is going in


Giving Randy fifty title shots or Lesnar coming in and getting a title shot after four fights is better? Boxing has it's flaws, but bringing fighters through slowly isn't one of them. If you put a novice in against Wlad, it would be suicide. Even guys like Foreman came through slowy. Boxing has a lot of problems, but better the current system than an org that decides to give title shots to fighters based on marketability and not graft.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: MindSpin on June 01, 2010, 05:04:45 PM
Who the fuck still watches boxing!?  I honestly have no idea who the heavyweight champ is and can maybe name 2-3 boxers ::) 
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: ThaRealist on June 01, 2010, 05:14:13 PM
Who the fuck still watches boxing!?  I honestly have no idea who the heavyweight champ is and can maybe name 2-3 boxers ::) 

Seriously, I watch boxing (not religiously) and I can only name off about 3 or 4 top one now..........Now go out in public (Jay Leno esq) and ask people how many current champion boxers they know....Wouldn't surprise me if they can maybe name off Mayweather and that is it....
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Jaime on June 01, 2010, 05:46:39 PM
Seriously, I watch boxing (not religiously) and I can only name off about 3 or 4 top one now..........Now go out in public (Jay Leno esq) and ask people how many current champion boxers they know....Wouldn't surprise me if they can maybe name off Mayweather and that is it....


How many Mixed Martial Artists or BJJ/Wrestlers et cetera could they name. Combat sports just aren't hugely mainstream. Boxing has always had a handfull of guys who are known and a ton who aren't. Right now it's Manny and Floyd. Most russians don't even know who Fedor is, this despite him being a guest of Putin's and a sambo champ. All russians talk about is Wlad and Vitali, which is weird because nobody in America gives a shit.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: ThaRealist on June 01, 2010, 05:50:39 PM

How many Mixed Martial Artists or BJJ/Wrestlers et cetera could they name. Combat sports just aren't hugely mainstream. Boxing has always had a handfull of guys who are known and a ton who aren't. Right now it's Manny and Floyd. Most russians don't even know who Fedor is, this despite him being a guest of Putin's and a sambo champ. All russians talk about is Wlad and Vitali, which is weird because nobody in America gives a shit.

What is funny is your wrong....Lots of ladies and young people know MMA names....I am not including Russians, because honestly who gives a shit what Russians are into??
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: MindSpin on June 01, 2010, 05:57:40 PM

How many Mixed Martial Artists or BJJ/Wrestlers et cetera could they name. Combat sports just aren't hugely mainstream. Boxing has always had a handfull of guys who are known and a ton who aren't. Right now it's Manny and Floyd. Most russians don't even know who Fedor is, this despite him being a guest of Putin's and a sambo champ. All russians talk about is Wlad and Vitali, which is weird because nobody in America gives a shit.

Dude, a lot of people know the names Chuck Liddell, Brock Lesnar, GSP, Tito Ortiz, Rampage Jackson, etc.  When you ask people to name boxers they still say Mike Tyson...lol.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Jaime on June 01, 2010, 05:58:07 PM
What is funny is your wrong....Lots of ladies and young people know MMA names....I am not including Russians, because honestly who gives a shit what Russians are into??


Russia is a huge country and a supposed mma stronghold, but who gives a shit, it's not America so it doesn't matter. I didn't say nobody could name mma fighters, i said that combat sports aren't hugely mainstream. Most people could name a few boxers and a few mma guys and not know who the fuck the majority of them are. I'm not talking about fans of the sports but casuals.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: che on June 01, 2010, 06:02:22 PM
Dude, a lot of people know the names Chuck Liddell, Brock Lesnar, GSP, Tito Ortiz, Rampage Jackson, etc.  When you ask people to name boxers they still say Mike Tyson...lol.

STFU retard
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: ThaRealist on June 01, 2010, 06:03:32 PM

Russia is a huge country and a supposed mma stronghold, but who gives a shit, it's not America so it doesn't matter. I didn't say nobody could name mma fighters, i said that combat sports aren't hugely mainstream. Most people could name a few boxers and a few mma guys and not know who the fuck the majority of them are. I'm not talking about fans of the sports but casuals.


Also, what is sad is that Fedor could be making much more money fighting for the UFC and WEC if he were not owned by the russian powers that be....
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: FREAKgeek on June 01, 2010, 06:18:25 PM
Boxing has not yet been surpassed, but I feel it will be...Boxing is to one dimensional to keep peoples' attention for the long run....Why do you think MMA exploded when it came onto scene?? Boxing has been around basically since men competed against one another for sport...MMA gives fighting for sport a more complex audience appreciating that one man can beat another with more than just his fists....

Boxing has been surpassed by UFC in worldwide google searches, for quite some time already. The only time the word "boxing" is searched more is on the Boxing Day holiday, which has nothing to do with boxing. Even a major boxing event barely spikes at all, as compared to a UFC event, it's not even close. Do a google trends and see for yourself.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Jaime on June 01, 2010, 06:21:41 PM
Boxing has been surpassed by UFC in worldwide google searches, for quite some time already. The only time the word "boxing" is searched more is on the Boxing Day holiday, which has nothing to do with boxing. Even a major boxing event barely spikes at all, as compared to a UFC event, it's not even close. Do a google trends and see for yourself.


How is that possible when the big fights do more ppv? Just curious.

Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: ThaRealist on June 01, 2010, 06:25:02 PM

How is that possible when the big fights do more ppv? Just curious.



I have to agree with Jaime on this one....Just as viagra is the choice prescription for men with medical coverage and money, so is boxing on PPV.....
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: che on June 01, 2010, 06:27:52 PM
 

How is that possible when the big fights do more ppv? Just curious.


Exactly .
I don't exactly remember who was fighting ( Mayweather or Pacquiao )  was a UFC card and a big boxing event the same night ,you couldn't find a single bar that showed the  UFC card.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: SgtSpar on June 01, 2010, 06:32:53 PM
Saying that an MMA guy would get his ass kicked in boxing makes as much sense as saying a boxer would get his ass kicked in a swim meet.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: che on June 01, 2010, 06:34:35 PM
Exactly .
I don't exactly remember who was fighting ( Mayweather or Pacquiao )  was a UFC card and a big boxing event the same night ,you couldn't find a single bar that showed the  UFC card.

It was  UFC 105 Couture-Vera   vs  Pacquiao-Cotto
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: FREAKgeek on June 01, 2010, 06:34:57 PM

How is that possible when the big fights do more ppv? Just curious.


Here's an example for 2010. Red line is boxing, blue UFC:
 
(http://www.google.com/trends/viz?q=UFC,boxing&date=2010&geo=all&graph=weekly_img&sort=0&sa=N)


Mayweather-Mosley is "D"
UFC 108 "A"
UFC 109 "B"
UFC 110 "C"
"Canada the mecca of UFC" "E"
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: ThaRealist on June 01, 2010, 06:36:04 PM
Saying that an MMA guy would get his ass kicked in boxing makes as much sense as saying a boxer would get his ass kicked in a swim meet.

Damn good voice of reason right there.....I get sick of these boxing guys saying they can take on any mma guy in boxing...Well how about they take them on in mma???
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: che on June 01, 2010, 06:38:05 PM
I don't understand the argument here they are two differents sports , I enjoy both .
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: ThaRealist on June 01, 2010, 06:39:38 PM
I don't understand the argument here they are two differents sports , I enjoy both .


Che, I enjoy both of them too....I can't understand why boxing guys are saying that MMA will be dead though....
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: che on June 01, 2010, 06:42:40 PM

Che, I enjoy both of them too....I can't understand why boxing guys are saying that MMA will be dead though....
I don't either  , maybe they are talking about the hype.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: ThaRealist on June 01, 2010, 06:46:52 PM
I don't either  , maybe they are talking about the hype.

I do, however, believe that fight fans will become bored with boxing and the same can be said about mma if it is all bjj and wrestling....
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Jaime on June 01, 2010, 06:46:58 PM
Maybe because all of mma fights in America go through the ufc where as boxing is more fight centric, so the trends would be Mayweather v Mosley or Pac v Clottey, Showtime, HBO et cetera. Those figures don't make a lot of sense when published pay per view figures say otherwise. Both mma and boxing are very healthy at the moment.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Jaime on June 01, 2010, 06:49:57 PM
I do, however, believe that fight fans will become bored with boxing and the same can be said about mma if it is all bjj and wrestling....


I think it's down to the fights. Nobody want's to see non action twelve round decisions in boxing or Wrestlers lay'n'praying for the whole fight in mma. I prefer a war in boxing over any combat sport but really enjoy a back and forth mma fight or K-1.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: ThaRealist on June 01, 2010, 06:53:28 PM

I think it's down to the fights. Nobody want's to see non action twelve round decisions in boxing or Wrestlers lay'n'praying for the whole fight in mma. I prefer a war in boxing over any combat sport but really enjoy a back and forth mma fight or K-1.

Agreed....I can't stand to watch either a boxing match nor a mma match that the 2 fighters are only trying to score points....
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: MindSpin on June 02, 2010, 06:15:09 AM
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: leadhead on June 02, 2010, 06:37:05 AM
I do, however, believe that fight fans will become bored with boxing and the same can be said about mma if it is all bjj and wrestling....

That's my problem with it presently. I want to see the stand-up striking fights not that bjj and wrestling bullcrap. Bring back the heavy hitters of the early to mid 90s and I would watch it.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: big14 on June 02, 2010, 07:12:50 AM
and the world will care about bboxing again and UFC will die!
and the world will care about bboxing again and UFC will die!
To make a bold prediction like that you need some more.

Perhaps some facts, history, examples,
Then explaining your conclusion and analysis.

Just saying something like "UFC will die!"
carry no credibility and sound moronic
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: devilsmile on June 02, 2010, 09:17:00 AM
if we talk about fighting as it is...

I don't know is there enough time in human age span to learn the art of boxing (arm combat) to the level of tysons or mayweathers while having wrestling at the level of fedor or koga at the same time....

but when talk about fighing, when it happends in a war zone, battleground, in a store, in the streets... 90% of the time it goes to the ground before either fighter is knocked down. Fighting consists using the whole human body, that's what not nasser size bruce lee has said his entire life.


Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: residue on June 02, 2010, 09:32:02 AM
ufc and boxing will die out when they start having the thunderdome.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Darren Avey on June 02, 2010, 10:26:07 AM
Only because I'm not there in person. Otherwise you would be the little girl: on your knees, crying, desperately clawing at my zipper, begging to blow me.
 

Hahaha typical internet badass, you re prob a 17 year old kid whos been bullied all your life and never got any pussy so you come on the net and get angry. Ok big guy you ever in the London UK area let me know.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Darren Avey on June 02, 2010, 10:27:34 AM
Boxing has been surpassed?
haha what planet are u living on

Ignore this mindspin bloke, he s claimed on here before he d beat Tyson in a street fight within seconds. Hes not to be taken seriously
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Darren Avey on June 02, 2010, 10:29:08 AM
Who the fuck still watches boxing!?  I honestly have no idea who the heavyweight champ is and can maybe name 2-3 boxers ::) 

Most of the Uk, see here we re real men and dont watch fad sports like UFC which has men groping and hugging all the time.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: MoralMan on June 02, 2010, 10:34:48 AM
Ignore this mindspin bloke, he s claimed on here before he d beat Tyson in a street fight within seconds. Hes not to be taken seriously

Im not sure if he said that but i will say Mindspin has the most awesome physique whereas you look like you do!
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: big L dawg on June 02, 2010, 12:55:14 PM


UFC is MMA. It is the only promotion that makes money. In japan all of the big promotions have folded, the same pattern has happened elsewhere, without the UFC there is no MMA.

wrong...You sound very uninformed....
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: funk51 on June 02, 2010, 01:52:49 PM
and the world will care about bboxing again and UFC will die!
agreed they need some quality heavyweights be they white , black , yellow or green. ray lewis quit football you could make a fortune dwight howard to.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: ThaRealist on June 02, 2010, 08:35:49 PM
Most of the Uk, see here we re real men and dont watch fad sports like UFC which has men groping and hugging all the time.

I'm sorry in the UK they would much rather enjoy men dancing in panties and in the end one pulls the others down and ass rapes them....
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 03, 2010, 04:29:02 AM
just got of the phone with don king boxing is officially finished.
Don is still banging hot whores.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: big14 on June 03, 2010, 05:03:49 AM
Ignore this mindspin bloke, he s claimed on here before he d beat Tyson in a street fight within seconds. Hes not to be taken seriously
Any trained grappler can do that.
Tyson is a fat old man, he can only frighten
children and nerds in his current condition.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Darren Avey on June 03, 2010, 10:06:09 AM
That just shows the ignorance of people like you, Tyson is an animal, a hate filled powerdul animal. He doesnt care about rules and my guess is if you tried any grappling hed bite half your face off
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Jaime on June 03, 2010, 10:22:34 AM
Yeah, you can worry about "grappling" why he is throwing ten punch combinations at your face. These kids that train grappling that come out with this stuff, are like the guys who learned karate in the 80's and thought they could death touch everybody.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: devilsmile on June 03, 2010, 11:12:02 AM
this is prety amazing... sickens me  >:(

Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: MindSpin on June 03, 2010, 05:13:30 PM
Ignore this mindspin bloke, he s claimed on here before he d beat Tyson in a street fight within seconds. Hes not to be taken seriously

Who the fuvk are you?  Don't talk about me newbe.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: MindSpin on June 03, 2010, 05:14:51 PM
Most of the Uk, see here we re real men and dont watch fad sports like UFC which has men groping and hugging all the time.

That's why all of your UK fighters keep getting their asses handed to them in MMA.  They have no wrestling.  Easy to take down, and pound into submission.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on June 03, 2010, 05:20:43 PM
UFC Majority= rednecks with no speed, defence, decent chins or talent.

LOL at this guy who just wildly flails his arms without any footwork or defence, and to believe hes a primier athlete in MMA.......only to be knocked out cold by a jab haha

(http://i26.tinypic.com/307xj4n.jpg)
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: MindSpin on June 03, 2010, 05:46:17 PM
That's Forrest Griffin.  And he was not KOd from that jab.  He gave after having been thoroughly humiliated by one of the top strikers in the UFC.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: che on June 03, 2010, 05:50:02 PM

(http://i26.tinypic.com/307xj4n.jpg)

Hahhaaaa
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on June 03, 2010, 05:53:22 PM
Hahhaaaa

haha look at this dude starting off with a right hand lead......its so slow you can see it a mile away
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: che on June 03, 2010, 05:55:25 PM
That's Forrest Griffin.  And he was not KOd from that jab.  He gave after having been thoroughly humiliated by one of the top strikers in the UFC.
Anderson Silva  failed as a boxer
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: che on June 03, 2010, 05:56:06 PM
haha look at this dude starting off with a right hand lead......its so slow you can see it a mile away

Just horrible  ;D
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 03, 2010, 05:58:35 PM
Anderson Silva  failed as a boxer
Along the lines of Leon Spinks
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on June 03, 2010, 06:01:56 PM
MMA fighter Miguel Angel Torres admits boxing is harder than MMA

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=23064

Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: che on June 03, 2010, 06:07:47 PM
Along the lines of Leon Spinks

 ???
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on June 03, 2010, 06:12:39 PM
haaaaahaha

(http://i46.tinypic.com/seyn1y.gif)
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: pellius on June 03, 2010, 06:16:37 PM
Who the fuvk are you?  Don't talk about me newbe.

He's an overly sensitive child who actually started a thread about me because I hurt his feelings saying that a boxer's punches would be useless once they are on the ground and they'd get their arm snapped or choked out.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: pellius on June 03, 2010, 06:18:55 PM
That's why all of your UK fighters keep getting their asses handed to them in MMA.  They have no wrestling.  Easy to take down, and pound into submission.

UK fighters are tough dudes but they lack the ground skills to dominate in MMA. They also don't seem to make great boxers either.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: che on June 03, 2010, 06:25:01 PM
UK fighters are tough dudes but they lack the ground skills to dominate in MMA. They also don't seem to make great boxers either.

Did you watch Diego Sanchez vs John Hathaway

http://www.mmascraps.com/2010/05/diego-sanchez-vs-john-hathaway-video.html
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 03, 2010, 06:27:17 PM
???
:D
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: pellius on June 03, 2010, 06:28:49 PM
Did you watch Diego Sanchez vs John Hathaway

http://www.mmascraps.com/2010/05/diego-sanchez-vs-john-hathaway-video.html

Yes, there are exceptions like Bisping and Hardy but I think it will be a while before we see a champ, if ever. They've been at boxing a lot longer and it's very popular there but I don't remember any recent dominate champs. But I don't follow boxing that closely so I could be wrong. Still, they are tough dudes.

I also think Sanchez belongs at 155.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 03, 2010, 06:34:43 PM
I heard Gerry Cooney was making a comeback. :D
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Jaime on June 03, 2010, 06:56:50 PM
I heard Gerry Cooney was making a comeback. :D




I don't get it? ???
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 03, 2010, 07:01:37 PM
Just a joke bro gerry cooney was one the worst boxers ever.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: che on June 03, 2010, 07:05:44 PM
Just a joke bro gerry cooney was one the worst boxers ever.

How dare you  talk shit about "The Great White Hope"  >:(
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 03, 2010, 07:07:39 PM
How dare you  talk shit about "The Great White Hope"  >:(

:D yea he hoped he could make past 30 secs first round
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: che on June 03, 2010, 07:08:14 PM
:D yea he hoped he could make past 30 secs first round
;D
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Jaime on June 03, 2010, 07:09:50 PM
He was pretty good. He was old at that point and against a great puncher. He would have been a lot better if he was brought along better early in his career. Killer left hook, one of the hardest of all time.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on June 03, 2010, 08:18:23 PM
UK fighters are tough dudes but they lack the ground skills to dominate in MMA. They also don't seem to make great boxers either.

The Uk have made some great boxers over the years
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: pellius on June 04, 2010, 04:38:39 AM
The Uk have made some great boxers over the years

You may very well be right. But, at least in recent years, I can't think of any. Name some of them. I don't mean top contenders but legit champs. It seems Americans dominate the heavyweights and the Mexicans/South Americans the lighter weights, Pacman being a glaring exception.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: big L dawg on June 04, 2010, 07:47:34 AM
haha I remember 25 years ago when everyone said hiphop(rap) was a fad...yet it's not only still around but constantly has artists at the top of the charts....You can argue that rap sucks or not but you cannot argue the success in the music world it has had....

Same with MMA...you can give a personal opinion that you think it sucks but you cant argue it's popularity..And the fact it's been around for the better part of 15 years and shows no signs of slowing already proves it's no fad...
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: HTexan on June 04, 2010, 09:36:10 AM
and the world will care about bboxing again and UFC will die!
yeah, height weight boxing is really sucking lately. >:(
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Darren Avey on June 04, 2010, 10:28:17 AM
He's an overly sensitive child who actually started a thread about me because I hurt his feelings saying that a boxer's punches would be useless once they are on the ground and they'd get their arm snapped or choked out.


I told you buzz me on here when you re in the UK and we ll see, we l put the results on youtube.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Darren Avey on June 04, 2010, 10:29:39 AM
Who the fuvk are you?  Don't talk about me newbe.

Haha "newbie" im an old "friend" of yours been on here since 1998!! If theres one guy i thought would know who i am its you!
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: MoralMan on June 04, 2010, 10:38:14 AM
Guys, this is Darren on holiday! You sure you want to take on this fearsome looking creature?

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v121/15/113/554918436/n554918436_103644_9266.jpg)
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on June 04, 2010, 10:43:14 AM
You may very well be right. But, at least in recent years, I can't think of any. Name some of them. I don't mean top contenders but legit champs. It seems Americans dominate the heavyweights and the Mexicans/South Americans the lighter weights, Pacman being a glaring exception.

Americans dominate the heavyweights?

Supermiddle weight: Lucian Bute, Romanian

Cruiserweight: Previously Tomas Adamek was king of that division until he moved up to Heavyweight. Polish.

Heavyweight: Klitscko Brothers; Ukraine

As for Uk fighters in recent years you had Joe Calzaghe who was rated P4P number 2 when he retired, having a record of 46-0-0. 2 division weight world champion at LHW and Supermidde weight.

Then you have Lennox Lewis and Prince Nasseem who have retired not too long ago, same can be said for Chris Eubank, Nigel Benn and Steve Collins. All champions.

Today you have Carl Froch (former WBC champ just 1 fight ago) and Amir Khan (silver medalist in the Olympics and now WBA champion).
Amir Khan is training under Freddie Roach so no doubt he will become even better in the future.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 04, 2010, 10:45:12 AM
Guys, this is Darren on holiday! You sure you want to take on this fearsome looking creature?

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v121/15/113/554918436/n554918436_103644_9266.jpg)
Dude looks jacked, maybe he is packing a gat in those shorts I wouldnt mess with him.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: FREAKgeek on June 04, 2010, 10:47:25 AM
It's also interesting to note that Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, et al. never fought the best from Eastern Europe. The communist regime did not allow their athletes to go professional. So, we will never know just how great these world champs were.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on June 04, 2010, 10:48:34 AM
It's also interesting to note that Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, et al. never fought the best from Eastern Europe. The communist regime did not allow their athletes to go professional. So, we will never know just how great these world champs were.

Well, Lewis did beat Vitali Klitscko from Ukraine and many consider him to be the best heavyweight right now (along with his brother)
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: pellius on June 04, 2010, 01:10:54 PM
Guys, this is Darren on holiday! You sure you want to take on this fearsome looking creature?

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v121/15/113/554918436/n554918436_103644_9266.jpg)

How do you know this is him? If so, I ain't going anywhere near the UK. I'll just stay right here in the middle of the Pacific ocean.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: HTexan on June 05, 2010, 11:41:09 PM
You may very well be right. But, at least in recent years, I can't think of any. Name some of them. I don't mean top contenders but legit champs. It seems Americans dominate the heavyweights and the Mexicans/South Americans the lighter weights, Pacman being a glaring exception.
Yeah Hispanics owned in all the small classes.
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: big L dawg on June 06, 2010, 06:16:05 AM
Well, Lewis did beat Vitali Klitscko from Ukraine and many consider him to be the best heavyweight right now (along with his brother)

only problem is he didn't beat Vitali...and once that fight was stopped he promptly retired knowing he wanted nothing to do with a rematch...
Title: Re: UFC will soon die and boxing will have another Tyson
Post by: Darren Avey on June 06, 2010, 01:38:34 PM
Vitali would have killed Lewis in a rematch.