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Title: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: Ron on June 12, 2010, 06:42:56 PM
These things are driving me nuts, as they sound like a swarm of bees when watching the matches.  Hopefully, they will be filtered out in the upcoming matches in South Africa, or at least ban them from the fans.

If you don't know that they are, (from wiki), a vuvuzela, sometimes called a "lepatata" (its Setswana name) or a stadium horn, is a blowing horn, approximately one metre in length, commonly blown by fans at football matches in South Africa.

In any case, USA was lucky to tie against the might England, but a tie is a tie.  


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/86/Vuvuzela_blower%2C_Final_Draw%2C_FIFA_2010_World_Cup.jpg)


As for BANNING them, it was discussed

The vuvuzela came to international attention during the run-up to the 2009 FIFA Confederations Cup and 2010 FIFA World Cup, both hosted in South Africa. The world football governing body, FIFA, wanted to ban the use of vuvuzelas during the World Cup 2010 because of concerns that hooligans could use the instrument as a weapon and that businesses could place advertisements on vuvuzelas. However the South African Football Association (SAFA) made a presentation that vuvuzelas were essential for an authentic South African football experience,[2]  and FIFA decided in July 2008 to drop the ban, allowing vuvuzelas at Confederations Cup.[20]  President of FIFA Sepp Blatter opposed banning the vuvuzela, saying "We should not try to Europeanise an African World Cup."[21]  FIFA ultimately decided to allow the instrument for the 2010 World Cup as well,[22]  except for Vuvuzelas being longer than one metre.
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: MB_722 on June 12, 2010, 06:44:02 PM
getting annoyed with them too.
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 12, 2010, 06:48:23 PM
These things are driving me nuts, as they sound like a swarm of bees when watching the matches.  Hopefully, they will be filtered out in the upcoming matches in South Africa, or at least ban them from the fans.

If you don't know that they are, (from wiki), a vuvuzela, sometimes called a "lepatata" (its Setswana name) or a stadium horn, is a blowing horn, approximately one metre in length, commonly blown by fans at football matches in South Africa.

In any case, USA was lucky to tie against the might England, but a tie is a tie.  


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/86/Vuvuzela_blower%2C_Final_Draw%2C_FIFA_2010_World_Cup.jpg)

I told my wife the same thing, no wonder why there's so much fighting in the crowds, everyone's annoying one another with that noise >:(
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: Lundgren on June 12, 2010, 06:55:58 PM
getting annoyed with them too.
I've started to mute the whole thing.
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: Migs on June 12, 2010, 07:32:34 PM
getting annoyed with them too.

x2
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 12, 2010, 08:00:22 PM
Anyone see a corralation between Raider fan and Soccer fan?
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 12, 2010, 08:01:32 PM
Anyone see a corralation between Raider fan and Soccer fan?
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: Voice of Doom on June 12, 2010, 08:03:52 PM
It's their thing and their World Cup....let em do what they want.
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: MB_722 on June 12, 2010, 08:04:09 PM
no
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on June 12, 2010, 08:07:42 PM
 http://www.spitorswallow.co.za/blowme.php

For those who love the Vuvuzela - blow me!
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: MB_722 on June 12, 2010, 08:37:07 PM
It's their thing and their World Cup....let em do what they want.

oxymoron.

they are ruining it for everyone. fuckers  >:(
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: Benny B on June 12, 2010, 09:15:09 PM
It's their thing and their World Cup....let em do what they want.
exactly

If you don't like it, too bad. Watch something else.

Next!
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: no one on June 12, 2010, 09:19:19 PM
i was wondering what the fuck that sound was. lol. it never stops.
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: DK II on June 12, 2010, 09:34:24 PM
And one wonders why SA has one of the highest crime rates in the world....

No wonder with these shithorns blowing all the time.
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: Rami on June 12, 2010, 10:44:13 PM
It's there to keep you from falling asleep.
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: io856 on June 12, 2010, 10:56:34 PM
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Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: WillGrant on June 12, 2010, 11:44:47 PM
Bodybuilding, Figure and Fitness related
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Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: dj181 on June 13, 2010, 12:49:48 AM
If you tough guys don't like it, then when don't you show up to the matches and take them from these blowers and jam them up their @sses or down their throats ;>
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: powerpack on June 13, 2010, 01:14:16 AM
I am South African and we hate those things as well  >:(
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: dj181 on June 13, 2010, 01:34:08 AM
Just curious, are you a black or white South African?
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: EL Mariachi on June 13, 2010, 01:56:12 AM
exactly my thaughts swarm of bees.
its not that bad sound but they overdo it, it loses its charm when its constantly blown, cant hear the people cheering, but africans are by far the most enthousiastic fans, like in a trance even when they re losing.
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: the_steevo_uk on June 13, 2010, 02:05:02 AM
Get rid get rid get rid...You couldn't even hear the chants from the england supporters last night and when teams score you can hardly hear an increase in noise cos of those fucking horns...it just doesnt feel like watching a proper match

from BBC

South Africa ponders vuvuzela ban after complaints

The vuvuzela has already made a big impact at the World Cup

South Africa's World Cup organising chief Danny Jordaan may ban vuvuzelas from inside stadiums after complaints from broadcasters and supporters.

The constant sound of the high-pitched horn-like instrument has so far drowned out any of the atmosphere-generating singing usually associated with games.

And Jordaan, when asked if he would get rid of them, told BBC Sport: "If there are grounds to do so, yes.

"We did say that if any land on the pitch in anger we will take action."

France captain Patrice Evra has already blamed the noise generated by the vuvuzelas, which has been likened to the drone of thousands of bees, for his side's poor showing in their opening group game against Uruguay which finished goalless.

He said: "We can't sleep at night because of the vuvuzelas. People start playing them from 6am.

"We can't hear one another out on the pitch because of them."

Jordaan conceded that while the noise was irritating for some people, they were doing all they could to minimise the impact.

"We've tried to get some order," he continued. "We have asked for no vuvuzelas during national anthems or stadium announcements. It's difficult but we're trying to manage the best we can.

"We've had some broadcasters and individuals (complaining) and it's something we are evaluating on an on-going basis."

Jordaan admitted that he is not a huge fan of them himself. "I would prefer singing," he said.

"It's always been a great generator of a wonderful atmosphere in stadiums and I would try to encourage them to sing.

"In the days of the struggle (against apartheid) we were singing, all through our history it's our ability to sing that inspired and drove the emotions."
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: powerpack on June 13, 2010, 04:13:53 AM
Just curious, are you a black or white South African?
White
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: DK II on June 13, 2010, 04:16:08 AM
Just curious, are you a black or white South African?

white, 100%

Blacks think different about "culture". For them, culture is running round a fire, hammering on some bongos and sticking wooden sticks into all possible and impossible parts of their bodies.
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: Bobby on June 13, 2010, 04:40:53 AM
They are really annoying.....it was somewhat fun at first but not is is e friggin nough already... >:( >:(

Deutschland - Australien tonight
TEAM Deutschland 8)
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: DK II on June 13, 2010, 04:46:07 AM
They are really annoying.....it was somewhat fun at first but not is is e friggin nough already... >:( >:(

Deutschland - Australien tonight
TEAM Deutschland 8)

SIEG HEIL!!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: the_steevo_uk on June 13, 2010, 04:50:56 AM
Algeria Slovenia....fucking things are out in force again sounds like a hornets nest.

shit game so far btw
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: dj181 on June 13, 2010, 05:42:21 AM
Who knows? Maybe they are trying to drive everyone to some kind of mass murder/suicide.
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: Nordic Superman on June 13, 2010, 06:01:46 AM
Cultural relevatism at work, how glorious.

They are annoying as hell, but maybe they won't be so energetic once the last African teams has lost out.
Title: BBZZZZZZ
Post by: che on June 13, 2010, 05:17:01 PM
(http://www.dw-world.de/image/0,,4440973_1,00.jpg)
Title: Re: BBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Post by: Shockwave on June 13, 2010, 05:21:28 PM
Collective IQ - 78.
Collective Decibals - 250
Is there some correlation between stupid people and being obnoxiously loud? Im begining to think so. :-\
Title: Re: BBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Post by: che on June 13, 2010, 05:29:44 PM
Collective IQ - 78.
Collective Decibals - 250
Is there some correlation between stupid people and being obnoxiously loud? Im begining to think so. :-\

 :D

Title: Re: BBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Post by: che on June 13, 2010, 05:43:26 PM
This is a soccer atmosphere motherfuckers  >:(




Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: slaveboy1980 on June 13, 2010, 06:34:33 PM
yeah. fuck vuvuzelas. can't stand that fucking noise. had to mute the sound.
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: phreak on June 13, 2010, 11:22:41 PM
If you tough guys don't like it, then when don't you show up to the matches and take them from these blowers and jam them up their @sses or down their throats ;>
Because unfortunately neither of those actions would stop air from being blown through them. :(




And let's face it: how many men have already tried amplifying a fart through a vuvuzela? I'm betting thousands. ;D
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: The_Punisher on June 14, 2010, 06:30:24 AM
These things are driving me nuts, as they sound like a swarm of bees when watching the matches.  Hopefully, they will be filtered out in the upcoming matches in South Africa, or at least ban them from the fans.

If you don't know that they are, (from wiki), a vuvuzela, sometimes called a "lepatata" (its Setswana name) or a stadium horn, is a blowing horn, approximately one metre in length, commonly blown by fans at football matches in South Africa.

In any case, USA was lucky to tie against the might England, but a tie is a tie.  


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/86/Vuvuzela_blower%2C_Final_Draw%2C_FIFA_2010_World_Cup.jpg)


As for BANNING them, it was discussed

The vuvuzela came to international attention during the run-up to the 2009 FIFA Confederations Cup and 2010 FIFA World Cup, both hosted in South Africa. The world football governing body, FIFA, wanted to ban the use of vuvuzelas during the World Cup 2010 because of concerns that hooligans could use the instrument as a weapon and that businesses could place advertisements on vuvuzelas. However the South African Football Association (SAFA) made a presentation that vuvuzelas were essential for an authentic South African football experience,[2]  and FIFA decided in July 2008 to drop the ban, allowing vuvuzelas at Confederations Cup.[20]  President of FIFA Sepp Blatter opposed banning the vuvuzela, saying "We should not try to Europeanise an African World Cup."[21]  FIFA ultimately decided to allow the instrument for the 2010 World Cup as well,[22]  except for Vuvuzelas being longer than one metre.

I didn't know you were a huge soccer fan, Ron
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on June 14, 2010, 02:17:03 PM
 After the chairman of the tournament's South African organizing committee said he would consider a ban on the monotone trumpets, Blatter axed the idea of a ban in comments posted to the short-form web site.

"I don’t see banning the music traditions of fans in their own country. Would you want to see a ban on the fan traditions in your country?" Blatter wrote.

"I have always said that Africa has a different rhythm, a different sound."


 Sepp Blatter FIFA President.
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: bic_staedtler on June 14, 2010, 03:03:29 PM
Those fucking horns should be fucking banned, and I don't give a fucking rats ass what any do-gooder douche thinks.  Soccer is a world game, and those fucktards should be honoured to host the World Cup.  The horns do nothing but detract from the game in EVERY way.  The only people who like them are the retreads in the crowds using them and the Chinese assholes who manufacture them.  What's 'traditional' about a plastic trinket that ruins soccer games?  Fucking idiots!
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: ThaRealist on June 14, 2010, 03:55:51 PM
If it is this annoying on TV, just imagine how they sound live in the stadium....I would have to start popping people off
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: ThaRealist on June 14, 2010, 03:58:01 PM
If it is this annoying on TV, just imagine how they sound live in the stadium....I would have to start popping people off
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: nolotil on June 14, 2010, 04:11:43 PM
yes,, very annoying ,,.. the midget must silence them
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: dj181 on June 15, 2010, 12:26:31 AM
It is da black mans country, so let da black man do as he pleases. Blow on dem horns ladies and fellas ;)
Title: Re: BBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Post by: James Blunt on June 15, 2010, 12:38:35 AM
This is a soccer atmosphere motherfuckers  >:(

:o
Title: Re: BBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Post by: Gino30 on June 15, 2010, 04:07:15 AM
Collective IQ - 78.
Collective Decibals - 250
Is there some correlation between stupid people and being obnoxiously loud? Im begining to think so. :-\

very simple ppl.....200 yrs and Africa is still a shithole.....speaks for itself

Title: Re: BBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Post by: freespirit on June 15, 2010, 07:50:27 AM
very simple ppl.....200 yrs and Africa is still a shithole.....speaks for itself



When and how many times did you visit Africa?
Title: Re: BBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Post by: cannon_fodder on June 15, 2010, 02:34:09 PM
When and how many times did you visit Africa?

I lived there (4 different countries) for 30 years, he's right
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: cannon_fodder on June 15, 2010, 02:35:11 PM
Quote
South African soccer fans who prefer their matches to be vuvuzela-free can now take three easy steps to sonic freedom.

A user on social networking site Twitter has posted simple instructions for resetting your television's sound equaliser - a move that will drown out the drone of vuvuzelas without muting other sounds.

The instructions are:

Enter the sound settings for your TV and find the equaliser.
Drop the 300Hz channel (which Samsung TVs have, second from left), and raise the adjacent levels.
Save as a custom set-up (if you can).


Eric Smit, the assistant manager at Samsung Store in Canal Walk, did a spot test and found that it worked on both low-end and high-end TVs.

"I can relate to the people who are saying the equaliser can lower the sound of the vuvuzela on your TV because vuvuzelas are blown at a specific frequency. On the TV you can set the frequencies at high, mid and low level," he said.

Meanwhile, the BBC has said it is considering offering "vuvuzela-free" coverage via its red button after hundreds of complaints.

Fans say the droning sound of the plastic horns, which has been likened to the buzzing of millions of angry bees, is drowning out coverage and leaving them with aching eardrums.

Now the BBC is looking into providing "clean" coverage, which would strip out most crowd noise.

A BBC spokesman told Britain's Daily Mail on Monday night: "We have already taken steps to minimise the noise and are continuing to monitor the situation. If the vuvuzela continues to have an impact on audience enjoyment, we will look at what other options we can take."
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Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: ManBearPig... on June 15, 2010, 05:59:53 PM
not sure if it was mentioned, but i think it's because soccer fans need something that reminds them of a dick in their mouth at all times.
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: ThaRealist on June 15, 2010, 08:22:42 PM
not sure if it was mentioned, but i think it's because soccer fans need something that reminds them of a dick in their mouth at all times.

I believe that is more of an African thing.... ;)
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: powerpack on June 15, 2010, 11:39:22 PM
As a South African I can tell you this
The more they know it irritates you the more they will blow it.
Any attack on their plastic tube they will turn into an alleged racist attack on themsleves.
They are loving this  ;D
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: ThaRealist on June 15, 2010, 11:58:50 PM
As a South African I can tell you this
The more they know it irritates you the more they will blow it.
Any attack on their plastic tube they will turn into an alleged racist attack on themsleves.
They are loving this  ;D

And yet setting themselves back further on an international setting....Cheers to the dumbass's
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: dj181 on June 15, 2010, 11:59:59 PM
I knew man, I just knew it :D Blow on dem horns ladies and fellas! Stick it to whitey ;)
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: powerpack on June 16, 2010, 12:06:39 AM
I knew man, I just knew it :D Blow on dem horns ladies and fellas! Stick it to whitey ;)
Well come to my world bro.............welcome to my world.
VV's have been an issue in South Africa for years already, in fact when black people go strike or have issues with a whitey they use VV's in their marches to piss the white South Africans off  >:(
They know exactly what they are doing, this is heaven to them  ;D
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: phreak on June 16, 2010, 12:38:09 AM
Well come to my world bro.............welcome to my world.
VV's have been an issue in South Africa for years already, in fact when black people go strike or have issues with a whitey they use VV's in their marches to piss the white South Africans off  >:(
They know exactly what they are doing, this is heaven to them  ;D
Living in slums, blowing plastic horns, is heaven to them? Epic low expectations.
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: dj181 on June 16, 2010, 12:51:17 AM
I think that what is heaven for them is dat dey be gettin' under whiteys skin blowin' on dem horns LOL So I'm curious Powerpack, are you of English heritage or of Dutch heritage?
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: powerpack on June 16, 2010, 12:55:23 AM
Living in slums, blowing plastic horns, is heaven to them? Epic low expectations.
A lot of black people are actually wealthy and live in affluent neighbourhoods they are called "black diamonds"
Heaven is not blowing the plastic horns, its knowing its pissing every one off and you cant say anything about it  ;)
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: powerpack on June 16, 2010, 12:58:34 AM
I think that what is heaven for them is dat dey be gettin' under whiteys skin blowin' on dem horns LOL So I'm curious Powerpack, are you of English heritage or of Dutch heritage?
Exactly
My heritage is Russian and Swedish on my dads side (My Grand parents fled the revolution)
German and Dutch on my Mothers side
American and Italian married in but I am second generation born and bred pure South African
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: phreak on June 16, 2010, 01:02:16 AM
A lot of black people are actually wealthy and live in affluent neighbourhoods they are called "black diamonds"
Heaven is not blowing the plastic horns, its knowing its pissing every one off and you cant say anything about it  ;)
Last time they got uppity was 400 years ago. We all know who had the last laugh then.
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: Immortal_Technique on June 16, 2010, 01:03:55 AM
white, 100%

Blacks think different about "culture". For them, culture is running round a fire, hammering on some bongos and sticking wooden sticks into all possible and impossible parts of their bodies.

What is good culture for whites? Going on a thong forum to make fun of people?
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: freespirit on June 16, 2010, 05:04:52 AM
I'm going to South-Africa at the end of July, and up to Namibia, Botswana, Zambia and back to SA. Starting in Capetown.  :)
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: powerpack on June 16, 2010, 05:11:44 AM
I'm going to South-Africa at the end of July, and up to Namibia, Botswana, Zambia and back to SA. Starting in Capetown.  :)
You have picked the 4 best countries in Sub Saharan Africa.
South Africa and Namibia are the best, Botswana you may have a bit of Cop hassels but it is still OK.
Zambia I was in in March and I had an amazing time, no hassels with cops and the people are great.

I live in Cape Town BTW.......... en daar woon baie Kaas Koppe hier so  ;D
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: freespirit on June 16, 2010, 07:28:12 AM
You have picked the 4 best countries in Sub Saharan Africa.
South Africa and Namibia are the best, Botswana you may have a bit of Cop hassels but it is still OK.
Zambia I was in in March and I had an amazing time, no hassels with cops and the people are great.

I live in Cape Town BTW.......... en daar woon baie Kaas Koppe hier so  ;D

That's good to hear, powerpack. Kaapstad must be nice too. Is Mama Africa (sp) a good place for a decent meal?
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: powerpack on June 16, 2010, 11:02:44 AM
That's good to hear, powerpack. Kaapstad must be nice too. Is Mama Africa (sp) a good place for a decent meal?
South Africa and Namibia have first rate resturants if you like meat and lots of it.
The other two countries not so much
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on June 16, 2010, 11:55:59 AM
these things are getting annoying, speaks to the quality of people who just sit there and blow noise through a stupid horn the entire time. must be really intelligent folks.
Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: freespirit on June 16, 2010, 12:59:17 PM
South Africa and Namibia have first rate resturants if you like meat and lots of it.
The other two countries not so much


I love meat!!  :)

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Title: Re: Wolrd Cup: Vuvuzelas need to go
Post by: powerpack on June 16, 2010, 01:01:27 PM

I love meat!!  :)

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YEAH!