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.....More so than any other group of people? A phone marketed to the Black Culture? Discuss. I want to hear some colored people`s opinions on this and if they see or identify with the same trend.
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.....More so than any other group of people? A phone marketed to the Black Culture? Discuss. I want to hear some colored people`s opinions on this and if they see or identify with the same trend.
I got an iphone...it was cheap with my upgrade...I wanted the new blackberry because of the instant emails...but the iphone was cheaper...so it was an easy decision..
btw...blacks no matter what their SES will go out of their way to buy ANYTHING new....even if they (which is most of the time) cant afford it...we make bad money decisions when it comes to consumption... really really bad decisions. There are people who live in some of the watts projects that have iphones...which mean their phone costs more than their rent...
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no, its just the 'popular thing' period, around here every white and hispanic person i know has one, and eagerly awaits each 'new version' thats coming out ::)
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I got an iphone...it was cheap with my upgrade...I wanted the new blackberry because of the instant emails...but the iphone was cheaper...so it was an easy decision..
btw...blacks no matter what their SES will go out of their way to buy ANYTHING new....even if they (which is most of the time) cant afford it...we make bad money decisions when it comes to consumption... really really bad decisions. There are people who live in some of the watts projects that have iphones...which mean their phone costs more than their rent...
Iphone is only like $300 :-\
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It's most popular among teenage girls.
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It's most popular among teenage girls.
X2 or young teenagers. 8)
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I got an iphone...it was cheap with my upgrade...I wanted the new blackberry because of the instant emails...but the iphone was cheaper...so it was an easy decision..
btw...blacks no matter what their SES will go out of their way to buy ANYTHING new....even if they (which is most of the time) cant afford it...we make bad money decisions when it comes to consumption... really really bad decisions. There are people who live in some of the watts projects that have iphones...which mean their phone costs more than their rent...
Why do you think the problem persists? What level or importance does impressing their own peers have amongst the culture and why do they think it is necessary?
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I got an iphone...it was cheap with my upgrade...I wanted the new blackberry because of the instant emails...but the iphone was cheaper...so it was an easy decision..
btw...blacks no matter what their SES will go out of their way to buy ANYTHING new....even if they (which is most of the time) cant afford it...we make bad money decisions when it comes to consumption... really really bad decisions. There are people who live in some of the watts projects that have iphones...which mean their phone costs more than their rent...
Got one too, yeah I knew a brotha who worked for a Apple store and another place, dude always complaining about not having money and being broke---but he would always have the latest electronics...
So did his white friends
this book speaks heavy on the subject,
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X2 or young teenagers. 8)
And what is their reason behind using it or wanting it? I am trying to grasp why the manufactured demand has put so many in a trance to thinking they need a product that is just a rehash of the same product they keep putting out.
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And what is their reason behind using it or wanting it?
The same reason why everybody wanted the Ipod. Excellent marketing strategies by Apple, mangaging to make their products trendy and State of the Art.
I have the IPod myself, everyone had to have the IPod. If you had any other MP3-Player except for the Ipod you were a stigmatized loser, and what the IPod was among the MP3-Players the IPhone is among the Smartphones.
Apple did excellent marketing, you gotta give em credit.
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And what is their reason behind using it or wanting it? I am trying to grasp why the manufactured demand has put so many in a trance to thinking they need a product that is just a rehash of the same product they keep putting out.
It is simple, Kids always want that new product and so do most people! People always want things that they can barely afford, Iphone, BB Bold, Electronics, Shoes, Clothes and they will destroy their credit to get or beg mommy and daddy to get it for them. ;) Remember Adonis, "they have to fit in". 8)
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The same reason why everybody wanted the Ipod. Excellent marketing strategies by Apple, mangaging to make their products trendy and State of the Art.
Whats so State of the Art about it that one of those tiny portable computers can`t do and if its so technologically advanced, why do teenage girls and poor Minorities want it so dearly?
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Whats so State of the Art about it that one of those tiny portable computers can`t do and if its so technologically advanced, why do teenage girls and poor Minorities want it so dearly?
Why do people spend $300 for a pair of jeans??
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Whats so State of the Art about it that one of those tiny portable computers can`t do and if its so technologically advanced, why do teenage girls and poor Minorities want it so dearly?
The value of brand recognition is much higher than with other products.
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The value of brand recognition is much higher than with other products.
Apple makes garbage though. Their PC`s can`t hold a candle to what you can build yourself. Their IPODs are duplicated over and over and are even improved by other makes of the same thing. Their Phones likewise.
Its rather amusing.
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Whats so State of the Art about it that one of those tiny portable computers can`t do and if its so technologically advanced, why do teenage girls and poor Minorities want it so dearly?
Its not Rocket Science, people dont want to carry a laptop/netbook around with them and most working people want to be able to check email/the net/listen to music on the go and apple provides the best platform for this.To some its fanboism but to the educated who want these features on the go then apple simply does it better, if droid did it better Id happily admit this but they dont.
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Why do you think the problem persists? What level or importance does impressing their own peers have amongst the culture and why do they think it is necessary?
Read Brainwashed by Tom Burrell.
It's tied into self esteem. We are still slaves, but slaves to material things, false pride or esteem due to having material things. This is amplified in hip-hop, especially the BIG/Bad Boy playa era, where they were always dropping name brand items, and saying what they have versus you.
Big_Mal probably remembers the line from Jay-Z's "Imaginary Playa",
"What's the difference between a 4.0 and a 4.6..."
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Apple makes garbage though. Their PC`s can`t hold a candle to what you can build yourself. Their IPODs are duplicated over and over and are even improved by other makes of the same thing. Their Phones likewise.
Its rather amusing.
Its all down to the user interface, if youd owned an ipod/iphone for any length of time youd realise this.Id never use macOS on a home pc though because its so crippled compared to windows.
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Its not Rocket Science, people dont want to carry a laptop/netbook around with them and most working people want to be able to check email/the net/listen to music on the go and apple provides the best platform for this.To some its fanboism but to the educated who want these features on the go then apple simply does it better, if droid did it better Id happily admit this but they dont.
Have you seen how tiny some of the small personal computers are? Besides, reading webpages on an Iphone is just like reading them on a real computer but only using a magnifying glass.
Why would you want to do that and how do not get annoyed. It must be why Shitter I mean Twitter is so popular because the IPHONE Viewing window is just big enough for 150 Characters.
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Its all down to the user interface, if youd owned an ipod/iphone for any length of time youd realise this.Id never use macOS on a home pc though because its so crippled compared to windows.
I had an IPOD and I NEVER used it. It was shit and had no reason to use it. Especially when I have a great sound system connected to my Computer.
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Relatively few blacks iPhone. They're into Storm, Droid, and all that bullshit.
iPhoning is primarily an Asian thing, which a high % of white users as well.
But no, don't look for iPhones in rap videos.
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I had an IPOD and I NEVER used it. It was shit and had no reason to use it. Especially when I have a great sound system connected to my Computer.
Do you ever leave the house? That's when the IPod would come into play. ;)
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Relatively few blacks iPhone. They're into Storm, Droid, and all that bullshit.
iPhoning is primarily an Asian thing, which a high % of white users as well.
But no, don't look for iPhones in rap videos.
Interesting. So we have Poor Blacks, Teenage Girls and Asians who lust after this thing. Who are they calling do you think?
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Have you seen how tiny some of the small personal computers are? Besides, reading webpages on an Iphone is just like reading them on a real computer but only using a magnifying glass.
Why would you want to do that and how do not get annoyed. It must be why Shitter I mean Twitter is so popular because the IPHONE Viewing window is just big enough for 150 Characters.
Again people compromise , browsing on the iphone is actually very good, the new iphone 4 is doubling the resolution so even zoomed in the dpi of text is amazing.You are sitting in a bar expecting an important email, do you unzip your bag, pull out your laptop, wait 2 mins for it to boot up then get a wifi signal or do you pull out your iphone and within 5 seconds be reading your email?Adonis you clearly are a man of leisure, nothing wrong with that but for anyone with limited time and wants to be able to check anything e-related within seconds no matter where they are then the iphone is a godsend.
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Relatively few blacks iPhone. They're into Storm, Droid, and all that bullshit.
iPhoning is primarily an Asian thing, which a high % of white users as well.
But no, don't look for iPhones in rap videos.
QFT
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I am black, not colored.
I probably wouldn't be considered "sub-culture" but do have one, LOL!
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Do you ever leave the house? That's when the IPod would come into play. ;)
Yes, and the LAST thing I want to do is go bobbing around like some asshole with headphones. The sounds of Nature are wonderful and see no reason why I would want to be bombarded constantly with Music. I hate seeing schmucks in the supermarket wearing Ear Buds, not paying a fucking attention looking clueless. It makes it real annoying for the rest of us non-assholes.
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Do you ever leave the house? That's when the IPod would come into play. ;)
Exactly. Adonis is obviously around the home most of the time so yes its pointless in his case, what amazes me is that someone who professes such intelligence cant see that he is saying 'well since its no use in my scenario then its simply of no use'
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Exactly. Adonis is obviously around the home most of the time so yes its pointless in his case, what amazes me is that someone who professes such intelligence cant see that he is saying 'well since its no use in my scenario then its simply of no use'
He can still copy and paste with a Blackberry or a Iphone. :D
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Relatively few blacks iPhone. They're into Storm, Droid, and all that bullshit.
iPhoning is primarily an Asian thing, which a high % of white users as well.
But no, don't look for iPhones in rap videos.
Actually, over here many blacks do. All my friends 26-35 have them. Where I live, you have the most concentration of young professional blacks in the country. So, iPhones, blackberries, and to a far lesser extent Droids are the norm, not the exception.
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I am black, not colored.
I probably wouldn't be considered "sub-culture" but do have one, LOL!
You are colored.
Ever heard of the NAACP?
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You are colored.
Ever heard of the NAACP?
You're clueless.
Ever heard of the Klu Klux Klan? :)
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You are colored.
Ever heard of the NAACP?
And that organization was started at a time when that was the "polite" term, and the people who run it, still have that mentality. Which is one reason why they only concern themselves with racism instead of bigger issues. Now, quit acting like you are on CP time and respond to the post I made...I gave you a answer.
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And that organization was started at a time when that was the "polite" term, and the people who run it, still have that mentality. Which is one reason why they only concern themselves with racism instead of bigger issues. Now, quit acting like you are on CP time and respond to the post I made...I gave you a answer.
Parker,
He could be seeing people out there with an i-touch posing. Like back in the day when people tried passing garage door openers off as pagers, LOL!
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Interesting. So we have Poor Blacks, Teenage Girls and Asians who lust after this thing. Who are they calling do you think?
They are looking for Hookers. do you have any females in your house? check their phone bill.
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Parker,
He could be seeing people out there with an i-touch posing. Like back in the day when people tried passing garage door openers off as pagers, LOL!
Oooohhhhh shit! I remember that! I knew of people who made paper cut outs, and say, "this is my pre-pager. Helps me realize my goals."
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Oooohhhhh shit! I remember that! I knew of people who made paper cut outs, and say, "this is my pre-pager. Helps me realize my goals."
How many negros you think are using these? :)
http://cgi.ebay.com/Toy-Exhibit-Back-Light-Dummy-Phone-Closest-Apple-iPhone-/110469600644?cmd=ViewItem&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item19b8805584#ht_4105wt_1078
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How many negros you think are using these? :)
http://cgi.ebay.com/Toy-Exhibit-Back-Light-Dummy-Phone-Closest-Apple-iPhone-/110469600644?cmd=ViewItem&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item19b8805584#ht_4105wt_1078
Prolly a few, some would just get their girlfriend to get one and put it in their name (as that fat white comedian had said the reason why black men date fat ugly white women)
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Yes, and the LAST thing I want to do is go bobbing around like some asshole with headphones. The sounds of Nature are wonderful and see no reason why I would want to be bombarded constantly with Music. I hate seeing schmucks in the supermarket wearing Ear Buds, not paying a fucking attention looking clueless. It makes it real annoying for the rest of us non-assholes.
Do you not see other points of view TA? You seem to think your way of thinking and living is the only way, other people prefer to live life different ways, just accept them and let it go.
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Iphone is cool! The majority that have them seem to be young people, girls, gays, etc...
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Iphone is cool! The majority that have them seem to be young people, girls, gays, etc...
;D
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Iphone is cool! The majority that have them seem to be young people, girls, gays, etc...
back off
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Iphone is cool! The majority that have them seem to be young people, girls, gays, etc...
FWIW, Tre declared the Iphone "not gay" last July. :)
There was a memo.
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.....More so than any other group of people? A phone marketed to the Black Culture? Discuss. I want to hear some colored people`s opinions on this and if they see or identify with the same trend.
Shuddup. If that were truly the case, the market share wouldn't be as large as it is.
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Shuddup. If that were truly the case, the market share wouldn't be as large as it is.
Why, Man?!
Why??
It's like you couldn't even help it, LOL!
Now we're going to end up with some bogus study, YouTube clip or scholarly snippet from Wiki Univ explaining about the black demographics and so on. :)
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Shuddup. If that were truly the case, the market share wouldn't be as large as it is.
Religion has a pretty big market share as does American Idol.
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Iphone is only like $300 :-\
and project/ section 8 rent is like 47 bucks
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Yes, and the LAST thing I want to do is go bobbing around like some asshole with headphones. The sounds of Nature are wonderful and see no reason why I would want to be bombarded constantly with Music. I hate seeing schmucks in the supermarket wearing Ear Buds, not paying a fucking attention looking clueless. It makes it real annoying for the rest of us non-assholes.
Anyone with that holds a position of employment with responsibility or importance would never ever make a statement like this. I can't tell you how many key decisions I've made, data based decsions facilitated from my bb.
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and project/ section 8 rent is like 47 bucks
Good God. :-\ And they are spending their money on Iphones??
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Anyone with that holds a position of employment with responsibility or importance would never ever make a statement like this. I can't tell you how many key decisions I've made, data based decsions facilitated from my bb.
Are you listening to music when you make those decisions?
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Are you listening to music when you make those decisions?
haha thought he was talking about the ear piece... Didn't even realize people use it to listen to music
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Yes, and the LAST thing I want to do is go bobbing around like some asshole with headphones. The sounds of Nature are wonderful and see no reason why I would want to be bombarded constantly with Music. I hate seeing schmucks in the supermarket wearing Ear Buds, not paying a fucking attention looking clueless. It makes it real annoying for the rest of us non-assholes.
You should give those schmucks a swift slap upside the head to wake them from their lullaby! then say 'Oh sorry, I thought you were nodding off'
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Good God. :-\ And they are spending their money on Iphones??
yes....well i dont know if its 47 bucks...but i know for damn sure it aint over 200
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yes....well i dont know if its 47 bucks...but i know for damn sure it aint over 200
I have a few friends who lived in Government housing and they always had the latest Electronics. :-\
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Anyone with that holds a position of employment with responsibility or importance would never ever make a statement like this. I can't tell you how many key decisions I've made, data based decsions facilitated from my bb.
So are you saying that Andrew Carnegie,Bill Gates :) and Cornelius Vanderbilt are failures because they all lacked an IPHONE?
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all races have a lot of people that want the IPHOne
But some races revere it more than others perhaps?
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As an IT consultant I have to say the IPhone is pretty damn good. We have a few clients with Droids, Windows Mobile, Iphone and Blackberry. So far the Droid has a lot of issues with email accounts getting lost. However it is a very cool phone with nice touch screen feedback. We had to install Touchdown for Exchange on one Droid and now the phone is at least keeping emails as it was supposed to out of the box. Windows Mobile is ok however our clients complained how slow they were. Maybe the new ones are better??
I personally have an iPhone 3G and have it hooked up to my Car Audio System via bluetooth and Line-in. I have it jailbroken so I can multitask with it. I need this because I use the GPS mapping system, Pandora Music Streaming and phone calls simultaneously while driving. It is amazing. The iPhone also rocks with Logmein to control your client's computers remotely. There are so many apps it is nuts. I have to give props to Apple the iPhone is amazing. And I am a hardcore PC guy that has built custom computers since 1995. As far as PCs go they still kick ass compared to Macs.
My only complaint with the iPhone is the battery life sucks and the Iphone 3G is a little underpowered. But it gets the job done and I have a dock in my car and at two locations to charge it. The 3GS is even better and the Iphone 4 will be AWESOME!
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But some races revere it more than others perhaps?
Because it's a 'status symbol'...and a reasonably affordable 'status symbol'. I would think this fact would be easily understood as you are an 'intellectual'. Americans define themselves by their material possessions...the need to have at the expense of the American worker, long term internal economy, and personal credit rating reigns supreme.
Black Americans, suffering years of religious and cultural loss, have, sadly, made material possession and clan status values the defining points of their identity in this country. Over the last 25 years, as the middle class was slowly squeezed into the lower-middle class, American marketing followed the trend and pushed for that socio-economic dollar. In the 1990's, with Federal interest rates low, easy credit became available for the lower middle and poor classes. This was done to offset the outsourcing of traditional production jobs. With the rise of TV as the 'definer of consensus American reality' the poor economic classes, combined with pathetic public education, were unable to resist the lure of items that they could use to differentiate themselves from the peers.
The Ipod or Iphone follows in the same vein as the boom box, Air Jordans, pager, cell phone, car phone, leased vehicles, etc that the lower classes buy to temporarilly alleviete the depression of their purposeless existence. These material possessions, like a drug fix, only work for short periods and must be satiated with the next generation of 'shit' to buy and the cheap credit (with outrageous interest rates!) needed to buy it.
While this is easy to see for a true 'intellectual', the trick is to not fall into the trap of generalizing about cultural and racial bias...as this is exactly what the elites in America want. Let the little people fight over percieved differences while the rich make off with all the money.
there is no enemy anywhere - Lao Tse
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Because it's a 'status symbol'...and a reasonably affordable 'status symbol'. I would think this fact would be easily understood as you are an 'intellectual'. Americans define themselves by their material possessions...the need to have at the expense of the American worker, long term internal economy, and personal credit rating reigns supreme.
Black Americans, suffering years of religious and cultural loss, have, sadly, made material possession and clan status values the defining points of their identity in this country. Over the last 25 years, as the middle class was slowly squeezed into the lower-middle class, American marketing followed the trend and pushed for that socio-economic dollar. In the 1990's, with Federal interest rates low, easy credit became available for the lower middle and poor classes. This was done to offset the outsourcing of traditional production jobs. With the rise of TV as the 'definer of consensus American reality' the poor economic classes, combined with pathetic public education, were unable to resist the lure of items that they could use to differentiate themselves from the peers.
The Ipod or Iphone follows in the same vein as the boom box, Air Jordans, pager, cell phone, car phone, leased vehicles, etc that the lower classes buy to temporarilly alleviete the depression of their purposeless existence. These material possessions, like a drug fix, only work for short periods and must be satiated with the next generation of 'shit' to buy and the cheap credit (with outrageous interest rates!) needed to buy it.
While this is easy to see for a true 'intellectual', the trick is to not fall into the trap of generalizing about cultural and racial bias...as this is exactly what the elites in America want. Let the little people fight over percieved differences while the rich make off with all the money.
there is no enemy anywhere - Lao Tse
Well said - TA Owned!
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Why, Man?!
Why??
It's like you couldn't even help it, LOL!
Now we're going to end up with some bogus study, YouTube clip or scholarly snippet from Wiki Univ explaining about the black demographics and so on. :)
HAHAHA! I hope so!
Religion has a pretty big market share as does American Idol.
And that has what to do with your initial query?
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Because it's a 'status symbol'...and a reasonably affordable 'status symbol'. I would think this fact would be easily understood as you are an 'intellectual'. Americans define themselves by their material possessions...the need to have at the expense of the American worker, long term internal economy, and personal credit rating reigns supreme.
Black Americans, suffering years of religious and cultural loss, have, sadly, made material possession and clan status values the defining points of their identity in this country. Over the last 25 years, as the middle class was slowly squeezed into the lower-middle class, American marketing followed the trend and pushed for that socio-economic dollar. In the 1990's, with Federal interest rates low, easy credit became available for the lower middle and poor classes. This was done to offset the outsourcing of traditional production jobs. With the rise of TV as the 'definer of consensus American reality' the poor economic classes, combined with pathetic public education, were unable to resist the lure of items that they could use to differentiate themselves from the peers.
The Ipod or Iphone follows in the same vein as the boom box, Air Jordans, pager, cell phone, car phone, leased vehicles, etc that the lower classes buy to temporarilly alleviete the depression of their purposeless existence. These material possessions, like a drug fix, only work for short periods and must be satiated with the next generation of 'shit' to buy and the cheap credit (with outrageous interest rates!) needed to buy it.
While this is easy to see for a true 'intellectual', the trick is to not fall into the trap of generalizing about cultural and racial bias...as this is exactly what the elites in America want. Let the little people fight over percieved differences while the rich make off with all the money.
there is no enemy anywhere - Lao Tse
The beauty of it all is that the poor will never figure out how much fun the rich are having at their expense. ;)
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Well said - TA Owned!
How so? I agree with it completely.
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The beauty of it all is that the poor will never figure out how much fun the rich are having at their expense. ;)
The machine, for all its intrinsic inhumanity, is astounding to look and marvel at. So thorough, complete, evil and artistically brilliant.
Education appears to be the only solution which is why the elites dismantled the American educational system after the 1960s by starving it of funds...an educated, purpose driven, middle class with luxury time on their hands will decide that they want to particpate in the American polical and business system. This is unacceptable to the elites because it doesn't help them achieve their goals.
It's an interesting and depressing story of how the altruistic and humanitarian ideas of the 60s and 70s got perverted into the 'me' and yuppie generations of the 80s.
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Can you make phone calls using skype ( skype to skype or regular phone number international or not) over 3g for free? does your phone supports tether? if does do you have it for free?
Iphone does.
Blackberry= a phone with some browse capability.
Iphone= a computer with phone capability.
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the whole family is pimping the blackberry. iphn?
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The machine, for all its intrinsic inhumanity, is astounding to look and marvel at. So thorough, complete, evil and artistically brilliant.
Education appears to be the only solution which is why the elites dismantled the American educational system after the 1960s by starving it of funds...an educated, purpose driven, middle class with luxury time on their hands will decide that they want to particpate in the American polical and business system. This is unacceptable to the elites because it doesn't help them achieve their goals.
It's an interesting and depressing story of how the altruistic and humanitarian ideas of the 60s and 70s got perverted into the 'me' and yuppie generations of the 80s.
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nail, meet head...
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nail, meet head...
X2, TA should have figured this out. I showed him the direction, gave him info on a book.
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VOD is dropping knowledge bombs.
I'm convinced we're a culture beyond educating, save for a few.
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Because it's a 'status symbol'...and a reasonably affordable 'status symbol'. I would think this fact would be easily understood as you are an 'intellectual'. Americans define themselves by their material possessions...the need to have at the expense of the American worker, long term internal economy, and personal credit rating reigns supreme.
Black Americans, suffering years of religious and cultural loss, have, sadly, made material possession and clan status values the defining points of their identity in this country. Over the last 25 years, as the middle class was slowly squeezed into the lower-middle class, American marketing followed the trend and pushed for that socio-economic dollar. In the 1990's, with Federal interest rates low, easy credit became available for the lower middle and poor classes. This was done to offset the outsourcing of traditional production jobs. With the rise of TV as the 'definer of consensus American reality' the poor economic classes, combined with pathetic public education, were unable to resist the lure of items that they could use to differentiate themselves from the peers.
The Ipod or Iphone follows in the same vein as the boom box, Air Jordans, pager, cell phone, car phone, leased vehicles, etc that the lower classes buy to temporarilly alleviete the depression of their purposeless existence. These material possessions, like a drug fix, only work for short periods and must be satiated with the next generation of 'shit' to buy and the cheap credit (with outrageous interest rates!) needed to buy it.
While this is easy to see for a true 'intellectual', the trick is to not fall into the trap of generalizing about cultural and racial bias...as this is exactly what the elites in America want. Let the little people fight over percieved differences while the rich make off with all the money.
there is no enemy anywhere - Lao Tse
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.....More so than any other group of people? A phone marketed to the Black Culture? Discuss. I want to hear some colored people`s opinions on this and if they see or identify with the same trend.
racist post reported
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keep it bbing related....... queer 8)
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iPhone is popular with everybody, it's the number one selling smartphone.
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Because it's a 'status symbol'...and a reasonably affordable 'status symbol'. I would think this fact would be easily understood as you are an 'intellectual'. Americans define themselves by their material possessions...the need to have at the expense of the American worker, long term internal economy, and personal credit rating reigns supreme.
Black Americans, suffering years of religious and cultural loss, have, sadly, made material possession and clan status values the defining points of their identity in this country. Over the last 25 years, as the middle class was slowly squeezed into the lower-middle class, American marketing followed the trend and pushed for that socio-economic dollar. In the 1990's, with Federal interest rates low, easy credit became available for the lower middle and poor classes. This was done to offset the outsourcing of traditional production jobs. With the rise of TV as the 'definer of consensus American reality' the poor economic classes, combined with pathetic public education, were unable to resist the lure of items that they could use to differentiate themselves from the peers.
The Ipod or Iphone follows in the same vein as the boom box, Air Jordans, pager, cell phone, car phone, leased vehicles, etc that the lower classes buy to temporarilly alleviete the depression of their purposeless existence. These material possessions, like a drug fix, only work for short periods and must be satiated with the next generation of 'shit' to buy and the cheap credit (with outrageous interest rates!) needed to buy it.
While this is easy to see for a true 'intellectual', the trick is to not fall into the trap of generalizing about cultural and racial bias...as this is exactly what the elites in America want. Let the little people fight over percieved differences while the rich make off with all the money.
there is no enemy anywhere - Lao Tse
TRUTH, However you just described 95% of GB! ;D
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it's a good phone.. especially for internet browsing..
couldn't care less if it's a trend phone that every spoiled kid is using..
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TRUTH, However you just described 95% of GB! ;D
HAHAHA...maybe so, but Getbig also possesses other redeeming qualiites such as the willingness to at least discuss topics like this.
While the elites in business, religion, and state have always had their boots on the neck of the people things are not hopeless. The machine loves to show propoganda depicting their total control, and while it is strong, it is not invincible. If it was, they wouldn't have to use fear as their driving weapon...and if you notice, fear is all that's portrayed and depicted "as reality". fear of liberals, fear of conservatives, fear of the left/right. fear of the hispanics, fear of the muslims, fear of the enviroment, fear of the economy, fear of losing your job, fear of your credit score, fear of whites, fear of blacks, fear of terrorists, and most importantly fear of each other.
What the elites fail to realize is that the most awsome power in the universe isn't the H-Bomb or poverty but the power of each man and women to stand up, say "no!" and take the consequences. This is the ultimate truth, the reason Socrates drank the hemlock, the reason Hectro leaves his wife and son to fight Achilles in the Illiad, the reason 300 Spartans stood their ground against a million Persians, the reason why the Buddha left his palace at 18, the reason Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independance in the face of the greatest military of its time, the reason MLK walked out into the sniper's sights that morning, the reason all great men have done their deeds.
If I may paraphrase Chomsky, "While each generation has an uphill battle to fight it must be remembered that in end...in the end...every form of human tyranny and every empire has been overthrown." It may take generations but it should be remembered that the people do win out.
It may very well be that the sum of your life is simply to face the Goliath with open eyes and the hope that your sons will see what you've done and become better men for it.
heavy.....now back to World Cup!!!!! ;D
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Actually, over here many blacks do. All my friends 26-35 have them. Where I live, you have the most concentration of young professional blacks in the country. So, iPhones, blackberries, and to a far lesser extent Droids are the norm, not the exception.
Forgot to mention Blackberries. I see more black professionals with those than with iPhones, by far, but admittedly, you see far more black professionals in a day than I will in 4 years. LOL
Question: do I qualify for the 'black professional' demographic even though I don't have a job or involvement in any community organizations (other than youth sports)??
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Forgot to mention Blackberries. I see more black professionals with those than with iPhones, by far, but admittedly, you see far more black professionals in a day than I will in 4 years. LOL
Question: do I qualify for the 'black professional' demographic even though I don't have a job or involvement in any community organizations (other than youth sports)??
I see 12 year olds with Blackberries and why would a 12 year old need a fuckin Blackberry? ::) ::) ::) It is just a status symbol. 8) I asked one why do you need a BB?? "I like it and it costs alot of money too." ::) ::) ::)
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Apple makes good products. Thats why their stock has gone from 10 bucks to 260 in the past decade, while Microsoft sits at 25 year after year.
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Yes, and the LAST thing I want to do is go bobbing around like some asshole with headphones. The sounds of Nature are wonderful and see no reason why I would want to be bombarded constantly with Music.
I'm perfectly happy to sit quietly without having to listen to music, but, when you live in a crowded city, not having an IPOD leaves one susceptible to getting trapped having to listen to some idiot's cellphone conversation. Without an IPOD to block out the noise, I'd probably be typing this from a jail cell.
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Forgot to mention Blackberries. I see more black professionals with those than with iPhones, by far, but admittedly, you see far more black professionals in a day than I will in 4 years. LOL
Question: do I qualify for the 'black professional' demographic even though I don't have a job or involvement in any community organizations (other than youth sports)??
Fake it, I know and have seen tons of "black professionals", act in a manner of "blame it on the alcohol" type behavior---and many fake that professional BS and are just as hood...just like some upper middle class white families have kids that have serious drug problems (Oxycotin, Vicotin,etc) but they pretend that there is nothing wrong
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Fake it, I know and have seen tons of "black professionals", act in a manner of "blame it on the alcohol" type behavior---and many fake that professional BS and are just as hood...just like some upper middle class white families have kids that have serious drug problems (Oxycotin, Vicotin,etc) but they pretend that there is nothing wrong
crushed in a crucible. the new coke for white kids.
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Apple makes good products. Thats why their stock has gone from 10 bucks to 260 in the past decade, while Microsoft sits at 25 year after year.
Microsoft is a bullshit company, all it's money ever came from the monopoly it mantains. I like Mac's I think there a rich man's computer, however iphones, are just more of this useless trend. The whole brand is based on being a status feature. People talk about all the features and the only truly useful ones are for listening to music, the rest is just a childish gimmick.
American's drive me nuts, they want status symbols yet fail to realize that's what they are. Status is part of life, we've been obtaining status to lure bitches since the beginning of time, trying to ignore that fact is treehugging hippy bs. Status is good however smart status is better. If you spend half your income on high priced housing, every dollar you put in you will get back(when you sell it), however if you blow half your income on overpriced childish trinkets, with no resale value, prepare to fail. I prefer the 20 dollar mp3 player at walmart and spend the savings elsewhere.
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Fake it, I know and have seen tons of "black professionals", act in a manner of "blame it on the alcohol" type behavior---and many fake that professional BS and are just as hood...just like some upper middle class white families have kids that have serious drug problems (Oxycotin, Vicotin,etc) but they pretend that there is nothing wrong
You just described ATL. Lots of guys graduate from Morehouse in business and stay in Atlanta to work middle management for Georgia Power and Water, then try to go to these "networking" parties and lie about what they do while they pull up in their 03 Camry with "name Brand " clothes they got half off at Ross...
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You just described ATL. Lots of guys graduate from Morehouse in business and stay in Atlanta to work middle management for Georgia Power and Water, then try to go to these "networking" parties and lie about what they do while they pull up in their 03 Camry with "name Brand " clothes they got half off at Ross...
See, that's what's gets me, if you are real, be real with you ish. Why be embarassed? You worked a honest job, make a honest living. We all can't be ballas, but "our" women expect us to be. I guess "we" expect all the women to look like Angel "Lola" Love or Vanessa Veasley, when they have tons of photoshop done to them.
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Fake it, I know and have seen tons of "black professionals", act in a manner of "blame it on the alcohol" type behavior---and many fake that professional BS and are just as hood...just like some upper middle class white families have kids that have serious drug problems (Oxycotin, Vicotin,etc) but they pretend that there is nothing wrong
lol @ fake it!
You just described ATL. Lots of guys graduate from Morehouse in business and stay in Atlanta to work middle management for Georgia Power and Water, then try to go to these "networking" parties and lie about what they do while they pull up in their 03 Camry with "name Brand " clothes they got half off at Ross...
What's wrong with Ross?? I shop there and wouldn't dream of paying full retail for anything, especially not clothes.
If the '03 Camry is paid for, kid gets my vote.
I'm a different breed, admittedly, but that sort of stuff has never made any sense to me. Aren't our educated women supposed to be better about picking up on stuff like that? Seriously...I would expect a sista with 2 degrees and a steady job in her late 20s to be more interested in men who don't have a car payment and who are putting their money into a mortgage, not rent or clothes.
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lol @ fake it!
What's wrong with Ross?? I shop there and wouldn't dream of paying full retail for anything, especially not clothes.
If the '03 Camry is paid for, kid gets my vote.
I'm a different breed, admittedly, but that sort of stuff has never made any sense to me. Aren't our educated women supposed to be better about picking up on stuff like that? Seriously...I would expect a sista with 2 degrees and a steady job in her late 20s to be more interested in men who don't have a car payment and who are putting their money into a mortgage, not rent or clothes.
Tre, your last statement. Some women do that, but many get the degrees for self validation, some are just as hood, and dealing with dudes in the same boat, who are just as hood. Image is everything, forget character, what you are about. Like Drake said on the "Unthinkable" Remix, "I feel like I am going to end up with somebody that's been with everybody..."
I can tell you, I have been bypassed by certain women who were feeling me, now that they got their degrees, they want a Tyson Beckford with a PhD, yet this same woman didn't know what "nmn" (no middle name) stood for...
And then, you have to have a certain job, certain income, never mind the fact that she or they are indebt, and the dude is barely making the payments on the house or condo.
Also in my area (DC) you have tons of black professionals who make good money, but they spend it all on going out to eat and alcohol, so they are basically broke, but perpetrating like they everything under control. Buying clothes at Neiman Marcus yet driving a Carolla and putting down the dude who has a leased BMW 7 series, and they are in debt like a mofo. Image
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Microsoft is a bullshit company, all it's money ever came from the monopoly it mantains. I like Mac's I think there a rich man's computer, however iphones, are just more of this useless trend. The whole brand is based on being a status feature. People talk about all the features and the only truly useful ones are for listening to music, the rest is just a childish gimmick.
American's drive me nuts, they want status symbols yet fail to realize that's what they are. Status is part of life, we've been obtaining status to lure bitches since the beginning of time, trying to ignore that fact is treehugging hippy bs. Status is good however smart status is better. If you spend half your income on high priced housing, every dollar you put in you will get back(when you sell it), however if you blow half your income on overpriced childish trinkets, with no resale value, prepare to fail. I prefer the 20 dollar mp3 player at walmart and spend the savings elsewhere.
I don't really see an iphone as a status feature. I mean you can buy one for 99 bucks. Not exactly breaking anyones bank. Maybe i'm slewed bc I live in a pretty rich area, but it takes a lot more to have status then a couple mac products.
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lol @ fake it!
What's wrong with Ross?? I shop there and wouldn't dream of paying full retail for anything, especially not clothes.
If the '03 Camry is paid for, kid gets my vote.
I'm a different breed, admittedly, but that sort of stuff has never made any sense to me. Aren't our educated women supposed to be better about picking up on stuff like that? Seriously...I would expect a sista with 2 degrees and a steady job in her late 20s to be more interested in men who don't have a car payment and who are putting their money into a mortgage, not rent or clothes.
Na...im all good with ross and camrys and shit...but to pose like some big willie and stunt all crazy but still doin the baller on a budget...i cant cosign that my man.
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Na...im all good with ross and camrys and shit...but to pose like some big willie and stunt all crazy but still doin the baller on a budget...i cant cosign that my man.
You should do a PSA---the do's and don'ts for the Baller on A Budget.
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Na...im all good with ross and camrys and shit...but to pose like some big willie and stunt all crazy but still doin the baller on a budget...i cant cosign that my man.
LOL @ baller on a budger - love it!!
Agreed with Parker...you should do a PSA and women need to listen and learn, too.