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Title: poll
Post by: medz zeppelin on June 24, 2010, 12:09:49 PM
What is your favorite supplement company?
ABB: 2 (0%) .
Axis Labs: 1 (0%) .
BSN: 58 (11%) .
Champion Nutrition: 2 (0%) .
Controlled Labs: 6 (1%) .
CytoSport: 11 (2%) .
Dymatize: 11 (2%) .
Gaspari: 68 (13%) .
IDS: 2 (0%) .
Infinite Labs: 4 (1%) .
MHP: 10 (2%) .
MRI: 5 (1%) .
Muscletech: 30 (6%) .
Nutrex: 16 (3%) .
Optimum Nutrition: 44 (8%) .
Purus Labs: 12 (2%) .
Sci-Fit: 6 (1%) .
Scivation: 7 (1%) .
Universal Nutrition: 22 (4%) .
USP Labs: 145 (31%) .
VPX: 27 (5%) .
Other: 30 (6%)
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Post by: Nirvana on June 24, 2010, 06:30:23 PM
what ever happened to Twinlab? I have to order all their stuff online now
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Post by: Master Blaster on June 24, 2010, 06:31:35 PM
Ergopharm  ;)
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Post by: ThaRealist on June 24, 2010, 06:32:52 PM
Galenka
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Post by: body88 on June 24, 2010, 07:21:23 PM
what ever happened to Twinlab? I have to order all their stuff online now


They are getting back into the sports game. The whole line is available @ vit shoppe + things are being pumped back into local retailors; they have a bunch of new sports products out. A buddy of mine turned me onto their new amino fuel. Its pretty bad ass. From what I understand, they have a new ownership group made up of some pretty heavy hitters and they are fixing what the Blechman kids fucked up.

I just saw them do a website takeover on md and muscle + fitness.

They are still huge in vitamins.
Title: Re: poll
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 24, 2010, 07:28:28 PM
What is your favorite supplement company?
ABB: 2 (0%) .
Axis Labs: 1 (0%) .
BSN: 58 (11%) .
Champion Nutrition: 2 (0%) .
Controlled Labs: 6 (1%) .
CytoSport: 11 (2%) .
Dymatize: 11 (2%) .
Gaspari: 68 (13%) .
IDS: 2 (0%) .
Infinite Labs: 4 (1%) .
MHP: 10 (2%) .
MRI: 5 (1%) .
Muscletech: 30 (6%) .
Nutrex: 16 (3%) .
Optimum Nutrition: 44 (8%) .
Purus Labs: 12 (2%) .
Sci-Fit: 6 (1%) .
Scivation: 7 (1%) .
Universal Nutrition: 22 (4%) .
USP Labs: 145 (31%) .
VPX: 27 (5%) .
Other: 30 (6%)
They all suck, overpriced BS just to take your money.
Title: Re: poll
Post by: body88 on June 24, 2010, 07:31:07 PM
They all suck, overpriced BS just to take your money.

Some are some are not. I'm sure you understand that retailers are the ones who set the "margins" on price, so if prices get jacked, you can thank them for that. Dist and store owners get products for about 30-50% less than you pay.
Title: Re: poll
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on June 24, 2010, 08:20:23 PM
I dont have one
Protein powder is protein powder
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Post by: body88 on June 24, 2010, 08:20:54 PM
I dont have one
Protein powder is protein powder

False. There are four major sources of protein in the USA (as well as China) and thats not even getting into the "additives" companies then put in their shit.

Clean - non clean, sucralose - no sucralose...preservative systems, etc..etc.
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Post by: Master Blaster on June 24, 2010, 09:00:09 PM
False. There are four major sources of protein in the USA (as well as China) and thats not even getting into the "additives" companies then put in their shit.

Clean - non clean, sucralose - no sucralose...preservative systems, etc..etc.

Have you been to the supermarket? There's like 10 different "protien sources" just in the meat isle alone. Thats not even counting your boyfriend.
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Post by: body88 on June 24, 2010, 09:07:09 PM
Have you been to the supermarket? There's like 10 different "protien sources" just in the meat isle alone. Thats not even counting your boyfriend.

Clearly, what I said was to hard for you to grasp. I never said that whey is a better source of protein vs whole foods. Ob whole foods are the best source of nutrients. I said that not all whey is created equal. Which anyone with a brain and the ability to read can tell.

Not that hard, big shot.
Title: Re: poll
Post by: SF1900 on June 24, 2010, 09:09:39 PM
People actually voted for MuscleTech Shit
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Post by: body88 on June 24, 2010, 09:12:44 PM
People actually voted for MuscleTech Shit

They are a big reason why the industry has lost credibility. Their marketing and tactics of overwhelming consumers with a bunch of jargon on their products, (jargon they don't understand) has made a mockery of the companies that put out good shit, based on science.
Title: Re: poll
Post by: TacoBell on June 24, 2010, 09:23:55 PM
Karachi/Organon  8)
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Post by: SF1900 on June 24, 2010, 09:28:10 PM
They are a big reason why the industry has lost credibility. Their marketing and tactics of overwhelming consumers with a bunch of jargon on their products, (jargon they don't understand) has made a mockery of the companies that put out good shit, based on science.

Are you telling me that Anator P70 can't change your genetic composition?  :o :o
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Post by: Master Blaster on June 24, 2010, 09:32:16 PM
Clearly, what I said was to hard for you to grasp. I never said that whey is a better source of protein vs whole foods. Ob whole foods are the best source of nutrients. I said that not all whey is created equal. Which anyone with a brain and the ability to read can tell.

Not that hard, big shot.

But you did imply that your boyfriends sperm is even better that whey, I'm pretty sure my tiny brain was able to grasp that. Not something I'd really want to "grasp" though, I'll leave that up to your tiny paws.  ;)
Title: Re: poll
Post by: body88 on June 24, 2010, 09:39:08 PM
But you did imply that your boyfriends sperm is even better that whey, I'm pretty sure my tiny brain was able to grasp that. Not something I'd really want to "grasp" though, I'll leave that up to your tiny paws.  ;)

Alrighty then.
Title: Re: poll
Post by: Master Blaster on June 24, 2010, 09:43:54 PM
Alrighty then.

Alighrighty when?
Title: Re: poll
Post by: body88 on June 24, 2010, 09:46:44 PM
Are you telling me that Anator P70 can't change your genetic composition?  :o :o

Ha-ha, It's a shame really. A shame that it works when marketing to 18-34 year old males in the mass market; that don't have the understanding of supplements that bodybuilders and knowledgable athletes do. That's the problem with supplements, the big money is out in the mass market, not selling to people who will expect you back up every claim you make, and that have the knowledge to decipher your science.

I know it's trendy on this website to bash supplements, and that's ok.... the industry has brought it on itself. Fact is, there are a lot of good companies out there, that make good products (products that work). Companies that base their products on clinicals and source the best shit they can get their hands on. GMP certified and so on.

Muscletech and their wild claims have done a lot of damage.

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Post by: body88 on June 24, 2010, 09:47:43 PM
Alighrighty when?

I know you're a gimmick and all, but dude, just give it up. It's not funny, man....
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Post by: SF1900 on June 24, 2010, 09:50:20 PM
Ha-ha, It's a shame really. A shame that it works when marketing to 18-34 year old males in the mass market; that don't have the understanding of supplements that bodybuilders and knowledgable athletes do. That's the problem with supplements, the big money is out in the mass market, not selling to people who will expect you back up every claim you make, and that have the knowledge to decipher your science.

I know it's trendy on this website to bash supplements, and that's ok.... the industry has brought it on itself. Fact is, there are a lot of good companies out there, that make good products (products that work). Companies that base their products on clinicals and source the best shit they can get their hands on. GMP certified and so on.

Muscletech and their wild claims have done a lot of damage.



I agree. However, for the most part, I would say most supplements don't work. Very few that actually do work. And the ones that do work, usually work on people with at least average genetics. Ive never seen someone with shitty genetics take creatine and blow up.
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Post by: body88 on June 24, 2010, 09:56:38 PM
I agree. However, for the most part, I would say most supplements don't work. Very few that actually do work. And the ones that do work, usually work on people with at least average genetics. Ive never seen someone with shitty genetics take creatine and blow up.

Agreed, but I think any company worth it's salt (very few of these types left) is going to make realistic claims, and or cite the science behind the product (and what it can do), letting the consumer make the choice. We've been forced words like: EXTREME, MASS and HUGE so much, consumers are getting the wrong idea on what these prodcuts can do. Frankly, I think creatine is one of the best supps you can take. Lots of clinicals and research behind it.

There needs to be regulation...self regulation. Problem is, when the big companies try to do this, all the fly by nights, with huge marketing budgets and snake oil, run wild.
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Post by: SF1900 on June 24, 2010, 10:05:42 PM
Agreed, but I think any company worth it's salt (very few of these types left) is going to make realistic claims, and or cite the science behind the product (and what it can do), letting the consumer make the choice. We've been forced words like: EXTREME, MASS and HUGE so much, consumers are getting the wrong idea on what these prodcuts can do. Frankly, I think creatine is one of the best supps you can take. Lots of clinicals and research behind it.

There needs to be regulation...self regulation. Problem is, when the big companies try to do this, all the fly by nights, with huge marketing budgets and snake oil, run wild.

I do agree with you about creatine. A lot of science to back up its claims!
Title: Re: poll
Post by: no one on June 24, 2010, 10:09:20 PM
Galenka

this

or aburaihan
Title: Re: poll
Post by: body88 on June 24, 2010, 10:10:07 PM
I do agree with you about creatine. A lot of science to back up its claims!

Creatine,arginine,beta-alinine, aminos, whey, tribulus....all worthwhile shit, torn apart by hype.
Title: Re: poll
Post by: Dr Kincaid on June 24, 2010, 11:20:26 PM
carb blocking Cell tech
Title: Re: poll
Post by: FREAKgeek on June 25, 2010, 05:45:26 AM
What is your favorite supplement company?
ABB: 2 (0%) .
Axis Labs: 1 (0%) .
BSN: 58 (11%) .
Champion Nutrition: 2 (0%) .
Controlled Labs: 6 (1%) .
CytoSport: 11 (2%) .
Dymatize: 11 (2%) .
Gaspari: 68 (13%) .
IDS: 2 (0%) .
Infinite Labs: 4 (1%) .
MHP: 10 (2%) .
MRI: 5 (1%) .
Muscletech: 30 (6%) .
Nutrex: 16 (3%) .
Optimum Nutrition: 44 (8%) .
Purus Labs: 12 (2%) .
Sci-Fit: 6 (1%) .
Scivation: 7 (1%) .
Universal Nutrition: 22 (4%) .
USP Labs: 145 (31%) .
VPX: 27 (5%) .
Other: 30 (6%)


What, no EAS?

jk  :P
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Post by: jaejonna on June 25, 2010, 05:57:19 AM
just this b4 i work out...everything else from the grocery store or a multivitamin ..
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Post by: CalvinH on June 25, 2010, 06:05:30 AM
Old school British Dragon.
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Post by: Playboy on June 25, 2010, 06:08:30 AM
What is your favorite supplement company?
ABB: 2 (0%) .
Axis Labs: 1 (0%) .
BSN: 58 (11%) .
Champion Nutrition: 2 (0%) .
Controlled Labs: 6 (1%) .
CytoSport: 11 (2%) .
Dymatize: 11 (2%) .
Gaspari: 68 (13%) .
IDS: 2 (0%) .
Infinite Labs: 4 (1%) .
MHP: 10 (2%) .
MRI: 5 (1%) .
Muscletech: 30 (6%) .
Nutrex: 16 (3%) .
Optimum Nutrition: 44 (8%) .
Purus Labs: 12 (2%) .
Sci-Fit: 6 (1%) .
Scivation: 7 (1%) .
Universal Nutrition: 22 (4%) .
USP Labs: 145 (31%) .
VPX: 27 (5%) .
Other: 30 (6%)
What ever happened to Twinlab & EAS?
Title: Re: poll
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on June 25, 2010, 06:10:01 AM
where the fuck is beverly international
Title: Re: poll
Post by: medz zeppelin on June 25, 2010, 06:11:10 AM
this was just some poll from Amazon......i get great rips from powerFull from uspLabs ....maybe i just respond well....just sayin
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Post by: FREAKgeek on June 25, 2010, 06:22:14 AM
What ever happened to Twinlab & EAS?

It's still around.
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Post by: body88 on June 25, 2010, 06:26:31 AM
What ever happened to Twinlab & EAS?


They are getting back into the sports game. The whole line is available @ vit shoppe + things are being pumped back into local retailors; they have a bunch of new sports products out. A buddy of mine turned me onto their new amino fuel. Its pretty bad ass. From what I understand, they have a new ownership group made up of some pretty heavy hitters and they are fixing what the Blechman kids fucked up. Also, from what I gather, they are trying to stay away from the "bullshit" marketing a lot of the companies are doing on this list, so you wont see them in all the mags talking a bunch of shit in their print.

I just saw them do a website takeover on md and muscle + fitness.

They are still huge in vitamins.

EAS is still around and making more money than ever in the mass market. CVS, Grocery, Big Box stores -- etc. You might not see them as much in local retail, because those kind of people get pissed off when they see products in CVS for a price they can't compete with.
Title: Re: poll
Post by: medz zeppelin on June 25, 2010, 06:31:20 AM



EAS is still around and making more money than ever in the mass market. CVS, Grocery, Big Box stores -- etc. You might not see them as much in local retail, because these kind of people get pissed off when they see products in CVS for a price they can't compete with.
BJ's has 5lb for $27 and Costco carries a 6lb bag for around $29
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Post by: body88 on June 25, 2010, 06:34:36 AM
BJ's has 5lb for $27 and Costco carries a 6lb bag for around $29


You got it.

Local retailors can't compete with that and they cant get g volume discount like a bj's can.

Also, you'd be shocked at who manufactures products for a lot of the "top companies" out there. It's funny, because I see people ragging on x supplement company, while raving about another; what they dont know, is that the first company they hate produces all the shit for the company they love.

There are very few companies with the capabilities to produce and manufacture large lines of supp, the right way.