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Title: Pics Of Oil On Pensacola beach
Post by: SAMSON123 on June 28, 2010, 02:40:55 PM
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Title: Re: Pics Of Oil On Pensacola beach
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 28, 2010, 02:50:45 PM
Reagan & Palins' fault. 
Title: Re: Pics Of Oil On Pensacola beach
Post by: 240 is Back on June 28, 2010, 03:13:56 PM
Where's Brit Hume?
Title: Re: Pics Of Oil On Pensacola beach
Post by: blacken700 on June 28, 2010, 05:02:13 PM
Where's Brit Hume rush billy  :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Pics Of Oil On Pensacola beach
Post by: 240 is Back on June 28, 2010, 05:04:39 PM
Rush:
Oil spill is "as natural as ocean water is".

Title: Re: Pics Of Oil On Pensacola beach
Post by: gcb on June 28, 2010, 10:59:03 PM
it's ok really - wasn't someone telling me that BP would fix everything  ::)
Title: Re: Pics Of Oil On Pensacola beach
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 29, 2010, 09:00:07 AM
So which idiot is claiming this is actually God's punishment for ________________________  (fill in the blank of your choice)
Title: Re: Pics Of Oil On Pensacola beach
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 29, 2010, 09:08:57 AM
So which idiot is claiming this is actually God's punishment for ________________________  (fill in the blank of your choice)

Obama said BP had it under control.   ::)  ::)

Have fun on your oil drenched beaches while bama golfs, pounds beers, sings take me out to the ball game, slams burgers w medvedev, insluts the nation w calderone etc. 

Tell me again why your hero turned down the Dutch skimmers on Day3?   
Title: Re: Pics Of Oil On Pensacola beach
Post by: kcballer on June 29, 2010, 09:20:17 AM
haha oh 333 you're so silly.  You don't even give a damn about the environmental damage caused.  So please don't patronize us with your talk of whose fault it is.  It's people just like you whose fault it is.  People who are so tied to oil that they'll suck it out of sand, drill deep ocean wells without a plan to stop a leak and then blame 'environmentalists' or democrats when something inevitably goes wrong. 

So please save your faux concern for what you really care about - yourself.
Title: Re: Pics Of Oil On Pensacola beach
Post by: BM OUT on June 29, 2010, 09:23:45 AM
haha oh 333 you're so silly.  You don't even give a damn about the environmental damage caused.  So please don't patronize us with your talk of whose fault it is.  It's people just like you whose fault it is.  People who are so tied to oil that they'll suck it out of sand, drill deep ocean wells without a plan to stop a leak and then blame 'environmentalists' or democrats when something inevitably goes wrong. 

So please save your faux concern for what you really care about - yourself.

AND THEY ARE DOING DEEP WATER DRILLING BECAUSE ENVIRONMENTAL PUSSIES FORCED  THEM TO,BANNED DRILLING IN ANWAR,banned drilling in shallow water.So,look to the environmentalists when looking to blame people.
Title: Re: Pics Of Oil On Pensacola beach
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 29, 2010, 09:25:01 AM
haha oh 333 you're so silly.  You don't even give a damn about the environmental damage caused.  So please don't patronize us with your talk of whose fault it is.  It's people just like you whose fault it is.  People who are so tied to oil that they'll suck it out of sand, drill deep ocean wells without a plan to stop a leak and then blame 'environmentalists' or democrats when something inevitably goes wrong. 

So please save your faux concern for what you really care about - yourself.

 ::)

Sorry - I dont want to bike to work or live under candle light. 
Title: Re: Pics Of Oil On Pensacola beach
Post by: kcballer on June 29, 2010, 09:30:54 AM
AND THEY ARE DOING DEEP WATER DRILLING BECAUSE ENVIRONMENTAL PUSSIES FORCED  THEM TO,BANNED DRILLING IN ANWAR,banned drilling in shallow water.So,look to the environmentalists when looking to blame people.

Yes Billy blame the people who don't want these exact types of disasters to happen.  Great logic.  As for 333 you're so clueless on this issue it's not even funny.  You're living in a stone age logic that there are no alternatives to bring down our oil consumption and reduce emissions. 

Title: Re: Pics Of Oil On Pensacola beach
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 29, 2010, 09:33:11 AM
haha oh 333 you're so silly.  You don't even give a damn about the environmental damage caused.  So please don't patronize us with your talk of whose fault it is.  It's people just like you whose fault it is. 

+ Fucking 1

His typical bullshit of ranting and raving about something he has no care and no clue about in the first place.  Using anything and everything - factual or not - to justify his continued hatred of that Black Man In The White House.  (BMITWH - hey look, I can make up silly acronyms too).

He is so quick to bash the administration when the administration's response, to a degree, is impacted by certain laws that were set into place long before the current administration, or even its immediate predecessors, came into office? Umm.. yeah, that is smart.  But guess what, if they toss those policies aside and started doing a more hands on approach, the little whiner would be crying about how they were "power grabbing".   ::)
Title: Re: Pics Of Oil On Pensacola beach
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 29, 2010, 09:35:02 AM
+ Fucking 1

His typical bullshit of ranting and raving about something he has no care and no clue about in the first place.  Using anything and everything - factual or not - to justify his continued hatred of that Black Man In The White House.  (BMITWH - hey look, I can make up silly acronyms too).

He is so quick to bash the administration when the administration's response, to a degree, is impacted by certain laws that were set into place long before the current administration, or even its immediate predecessors, came into office? Umm.. yeah, that is smart.  But guess what, if they toss those policies aside and started doing a more hands on approach, the little whiner would be crying about how they were "power grabbing".   ::)

 ::)  ::)

When you have nothing left - cry racism.  Typical left wing hack tactics. 

Title: Re: Pics Of Oil On Pensacola beach
Post by: kcballer on June 29, 2010, 09:35:28 AM
+ Fucking 1

His typical bullshit of ranting and raving about something he has no care and no clue about in the first place.  Using anything and everything - factual or not - to justify his continued hatred of that Black Man In The White House.  (BMITWH - hey look, I can make up silly acronyms too).

He is so quick to bash the administration when the administration's response, to a degree, is impacted by certain laws that were set into place long before the current administration, or even its immediate predecessors, came into office? Umm.. yeah, that is smart.  But guess what, if they toss those policies aside and started doing a more hands on approach, the little whiner would be crying about how they were "power grabbing".   ::)

Oh but lurker here's the logic - he could have changed the laws, preempted the disaster and flown down there himself to clean it up, we all know the president focuses on one thing at a time right?  It's not like he's dealing with more than one issue at all.  
Title: Re: Pics Of Oil On Pensacola beach
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 29, 2010, 09:38:13 AM
Oh but lurker here's the logic - he could have changed the laws, preempted the disaster and flown down there himself to clean it up, we all know the president focuses on one thing at a time right?  It's not like he's dealing with more than one issue at all.  

Exactly.  How fucking DARE this oil spill actually distract him from using his army of zombified unemployed doctors from doing his bidding and taking over the country? 

WTF? 
Title: Re: Pics Of Oil On Pensacola beach
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 29, 2010, 09:41:48 AM
Oh but lurker here's the logic - he could have changed the laws, preempted the disaster and flown down there himself to clean it up, we all know the president focuses on one thing at a time right?  It's not like he's dealing with more than one issue at all.  

How about at least not turn away the Dutch skimmers on Day 3?

How about not trusting trusting BP whom donated more to Obama than anyone elese in 20 years and lobbied for the stim bill & cap & trade and whom obama gave waivers to? 

How about not shutting down the barriers and barges to clean up the spill?

You guys are a freaking joke.
 
Obama 2012 - "I fooled your stupid asses once, lets make it a 2 fer." 
Title: Re: Pics Of Oil On Pensacola beach
Post by: kcballer on June 29, 2010, 09:51:29 AM
There are many valid questions to be asked of this Admin and the handling of this spill, but you sensationalize everything, it's nothing by hyperbole and anti-obama everything.  As if he himself broke the pipeline in two and told bp and the coast guard not to fix anything.   ::)

The US coast guard declined the skimmers, why?  Because they didn't feel they needed them.  Hindsight is great but in real time you go with your HOME team not the foreigners.  Sorry 333 but that is just plain political point making and really has no context to the disaster and what was happening.

I find it funny you see this as some CT by Obama and yet you're still for more drilling.  If he's so inept and hellbent on destroying the gulf as you've said, wouldn't it make sense to not give him more places to look at destroying and pushing through his 'NWO'?? 
Title: Re: Pics Of Oil On Pensacola beach
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 29, 2010, 10:03:45 AM
There are many valid questions to be asked of this Admin and the handling of this spill, but you sensationalize everything, it's nothing by hyperbole and anti-obama everything.  As if he himself broke the pipeline in two and told bp and the coast guard not to fix anything.   ::)

The US coast guard declined the skimmers, why?  Because they didn't feel they needed them.  Hindsight is great but in real time you go with your HOME team not the foreigners.  Sorry 333 but that is just plain political point making and really has no context to the disaster and what was happening.

I find it funny you see this as some CT by Obama and yet you're still for more drilling.  If he's so inept and hellbent on destroying the gulf as you've said, wouldn't it make sense to not give him more places to look at destroying and pushing through his 'NWO'?? 

He is by pushing Crap & Tax and pursuing the moritorium putting tens of thousands of people out of work.

 
Title: Re: Pics Of Oil On Pensacola beach
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 29, 2010, 10:08:18 AM
There are many valid questions to be asked of this Admin and the handling of this spill, but you sensationalize everything, it's nothing by hyperbole and anti-obama everything.  As if he himself broke the pipeline in two and told bp and the coast guard not to fix anything.   ::)


Oh look....   here is the rain for THAT little parade of his.

Title: Re: Pics Of Oil On Pensacola beach
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 29, 2010, 10:12:11 AM

Oh look....   here is the rain for THAT little parade of his.



I never claimed he caused the spill, but he:

1.  Completely screwed up the cleap up. 
2.  Gave BP waivers for this very rig. 
3.  Is spending time pursuing crap & tax instead of dealing w the spill.
4.  Has John Podesta as one of his most influential advisors and is a BP lobbyist. 
5.  Is intentionally putting tens of thousands out of work.
6.  Is hampering is the states' attempts at the cleanup.
7.  Is spending time golfing, punding beers, and bashing the nation.


 
Title: Re: Pics Of Oil On Pensacola beach
Post by: kcballer on June 29, 2010, 10:12:38 AM
He is by pushing Crap & Tax and pursuing the moritorium putting tens of thousands of people out of work.

 

He's been pushing since before this spill.  Are you saying Obama had prior knowledge of the spill?  So are you saying that because you work in an industry that can't control it's spills you should be able to keep working on creating new ones before we even stop an old one?  

You must have been super sympathetic to the nuclear power plant workers when they stopped building nukes.  And the auto workers you must have been sympathetic to the hundreds of thousands who would have lost their jobs had the government not done anything right?
Title: Re: Pics Of Oil On Pensacola beach
Post by: SAMSON123 on June 29, 2010, 10:18:11 AM
::)

Sorry - I dont want to bike to work or live under candle light. 

Electricity is generated with COAL ...NOT OIL!!!
Title: Re: Pics Of Oil On Pensacola beach
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 29, 2010, 10:20:36 AM
Electricity is generated with COAL ...NOT OIL!!!

Not if obama has anything to do with it!  He already said he wants to bankrupt the coal industry. 

 
Title: Re: Pics Of Oil On Pensacola beach
Post by: kcballer on June 29, 2010, 10:24:11 AM
I never claimed he caused the spill, but he:

1.  Completely screwed up the cleap up. 
2.  Gave BP waivers for this very rig. 
3.  Is spending time pursuing crap & tax instead of dealing w the spill.
4.  Has John Podesta as one of his most influential advisors and is a BP lobbyist. 
5.  Is intentionally putting tens of thousands out of work.
6.  Is hampering is the states' attempts at the cleanup.
7.  Is spending time golfing, punding beers, and bashing the nation.


 

How did he screw up something that no one had any idea what to do with in the first place?  The majority blame for me goes to those who operated the rig and caused the spill, then it goes to the response and how effective it has been.  Obviously with a disaster like this it's never going to be 100% clean water and beaches because the spill is far too great.  If anything this reinforces the need to NOT drill until both private enterprise and state and federal governments can guarantee they can stop a spill from a well within 14 days weather permitting.  Until that can be done i don't see how you can keep wanting the status quo in our nations gulf coast area.  It's typical 'i don't have to deal with it but do as i say' mentality which is very common in washington and very common of new yorkers who feel entitled to the rest of the country doing their bidding.  Get a grip buddy.

The Bureau of ocean energy management and US dept of the interior gave them the all clear, i don't see how Obama signed off on it.  Perhaps you can prove where he worked for that very organization and said 'hey guys push this through'

fu*k BP had internal documents from their engineers saying they questioned how well some metal casings might hold up under high pressure.  But hey that's Obama's fault too right?  It's his fault he doesn't personally over see every detail on every rig in the gulf coast.  I mean heaven forbid he use experts who are suppose to know what they are doing, that would be an outrage.   ::)
Title: Re: Pics Of Oil On Pensacola beach
Post by: BM OUT on June 29, 2010, 10:25:00 AM
Yes Billy blame the people who don't want these exact types of disasters to happen.  Great logic.  As for 333 you're so clueless on this issue it's not even funny.  You're living in a stone age logic that there are no alternatives to bring down our oil consumption and reduce emissions. 



The disaster happened because of the enviro kook rules.If they would drill in Anwar or closer to shore there would be no problems at all.I dont care about our emissions.I dont believe they do ANYTHING to hurt humans. I think the entire thing is a scam.
Title: Re: Pics Of Oil On Pensacola beach
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 29, 2010, 10:28:01 AM
If anything this reinforces the need to NOT drill until both private enterprise and state and federal governments can guarantee they can stop a spill from a well within 14 days weather permitting.  Until that can be done i don't see how you can keep wanting the status quo in our nations gulf coast area. 

________________________ ________________________ _________

Sorry- Obama disagrees with you.  He pushed for expanded off shore drilling no? 
Title: Re: Pics Of Oil On Pensacola beach
Post by: kcballer on June 29, 2010, 10:36:52 AM
If anything this reinforces the need to NOT drill until both private enterprise and state and federal governments can guarantee they can stop a spill from a well within 14 days weather permitting.  Until that can be done i don't see how you can keep wanting the status quo in our nations gulf coast area. 

________________________ ________________________ _________

Sorry- Obama disagrees with you.  He pushed for expanded off shore drilling no? 

And i don't agree with him that we should be drilling off any coast.  I don't believe in continuing a dependence on a finite resource. 
Title: Re: Pics Of Oil On Pensacola beach
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 29, 2010, 10:40:42 AM
And i don't agree with him that we should be drilling off any coast.  I don't believe in continuing a dependence on a finite resource. 

Talk to the one you were waiting for.  He has all the answers.   ::)  ::) 
Title: Re: Pics Of Oil On Pensacola beach
Post by: SAMSON123 on June 29, 2010, 10:44:36 AM
Not if obama has anything to do with it!  He already said he wants to bankrupt the coal industry. 

 


DAMN 3 you gotta long way to go and a lot of learning to do when it comes to your american politics. A presidential candidate will promise people the moon and deliver then a stone in time. Obama was appealing to the greenies by saying he was going to "bankrupt" the coal industry. Coal provides america with 90 percent of its electricity... add to that america has HUNDREDS OF YEARS WORTH OF COAL JUST IN ITS WESTERN STATES. It also has about a thousand years of natural gas.. do you think america is going to forsake its electricity, cooking, heating etc etc because of the carbon emissions of these products?

All fuels release carbon dioxide and OIL is one of the worst. If his so called CAP AND TRADE system was implemented not only would the coal and natural gas companies go bankrupt, the OIL INDUSTRY WOULD GO BANKRUPT AS WELL!!!!! So exactly who the hell was he talking to on this matter? NO ONE ! He was trying to make himself look like he cared for the environment. For all fuel burning/using industries the remedy is to put BUFFERS on the smoke stacks. It is a device/technology/solution that has been around for years, but you know what? During your american Bush years he exclaimed that if the petrochemical industry had to use these buffers that the american economy would collapse...WTF was he talking about? Sounds like the excuse was being made during his years as president to make sure that CAP AND TRADE would have grounds to come into existence.
Title: Re: Pics Of Oil On Pensacola beach
Post by: SAMSON123 on June 29, 2010, 10:57:56 AM
The disaster happened because of the enviro kook rules.

Gee and all along it was told that Halliburton did a poor job at cementing the casing which failed causing the explosion and subsequent gushing of oil

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If they would drill in Anwar or closer to shore there would be no problems at all.

Yeah, why not spill the damn oil all over Alaska and kill all the wildlife there who gives a shit as long as the idiots in america can have plenty of plastic bags, styrofoam and plastic product to throw into land fills and gasoline to waste on car trips and airline trips to nowhere. Nice thinking. BTW the oil reservoir that exist in the gulf extends all the way up to Kansas and Oklahoma as well as includes all of Texas and Mexico...why not drill on land? Gee maybe because the oil companies would have to PAY TAXES!!!! Something being off shore allows them to avoid.

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I dont care about our emissions.I dont believe they do ANYTHING to hurt humans.

I thought you degree was in steroidology do you have specialty in environmental engineering or Organic Chemistry

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I think the entire thing is a scam.

Oy Vey!!!
Title: Re: Pics Of Oil On Pensacola beach
Post by: kcballer on June 29, 2010, 11:18:30 AM
The disaster happened because of the enviro kook rules.If they would drill in Anwar or closer to shore there would be no problems at all.I dont care about our emissions.I dont believe they do ANYTHING to hurt humans. I think the entire thing is a scam.

Yes billy pollution does nothing to effect cancer rates, death rates and destruction of the atmosphere.  My gosh stick to lifting weights and putting needles in your ass because this is not your forte.