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The A-Whale bills itself as the largest open-water oil skimmer in the world, and it’s at least very impressive. Originally an oil and ore tanker, the ship’s owners recently refitted the ship to do exactly the kind of work that the US so desperately needs in the Gulf of Mexico, and to do it on a vastly larger scale than current operations can handle. According to the ship’s project manager, the entire American effort in 66 days has skimmed off 600,000 barrels of oil. The ship’s owners claim that A-Whale can skim 500,000 barrels a day.
WITH THINGS LIKE THIS AT OBAMA AND HIS ADMINISTRATIONS DISPOSAL, BUT TURNING IT DOWN, DO YOU REALLY THINK OBAMA WANTS TO STOP THIS OIL SPILL ???
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damn, i hope this story takes off... would be nice to see that boat cleaning up here!
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damn, i hope this story takes off... would be nice to see that boat cleaning up here!
Too late. Obama already failed.
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Too late. Obama already failed.
Oh, I see. The boat would be completely ineffective if they started using it next week then?
get that story out there, we need this boat!
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Too late. Obama already failed.
miserably!!!!, this company offered this ship 8 days after the rig explosion. Does anyone realize that if this boat was in use 8 days after that there probably wouldnt be any oil on land yet, killing ducks and all that cry baby shit, but then general electric news wouldnt have anything to detour the bam bam lovers attention from his b.s. bills and shit
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Oh, I see. The boat would be completely ineffective if they started using it next week then?
get that story out there, we need this boat!
You see nothing. Obama failed and lett he oil hit the bech by not doing squat for two months over this. He had time to play golf, host calderone, go on vacation, etc, there is no excuse whatsoever for his negliugence. Even for you, the biggest pom pom fan girl for obama I have ever encouintered, obama is directly responsible for not waiving rhe jones act, turning down the dutch, getting in jindals way, and agitating the situation.
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of course he failed on it.... but the boat would still help us in FL if it arrived next week.
You'd like to shit on obama, that's cool - I'd rather this story make the round so the WH has pressure to use it so our economy isn't destroyed further
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Everyone says this admin is the smartest ever! well at least bush was smart enough to know when help was really needed and waived the jones act after katrina, what bam bams problem??
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of course he failed on it.... but the boat would still help us in FL if it arrived next week.
You'd like to shit on obama, that's cool - I'd rather this story make the round so the WH has pressure to use it so our economy isn't destroyed further
Damn right, I'd love to have big nasty turd to drop on his head. BTW - had obama not turned away the dutch and others from day one perhaps you would not need prayers for him to do the riht thing now.
BTW - he does not give a shit about your state or the spill. Deal w it.
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BTW - he does not give a shit about your state or the spill. Deal w it.
240 didn't care, either. He sat there pandering for Obama and applauding his handling of the spill for 50+ days. It's only when the oil washed up on Florida's shores that his tune changed. :D
Shame Obama rejected this ship. Doubt the MSM will report on that.
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i think i was more about shitting on palin for claiming she had something to offer.
obama's response has sucked, no doubt
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i think i was more about shitting on palin for claiming she had something to offer.
obama's response has sucked, no doubt
Thank you for your honesty. You care more about palin than obama and now have to deal with oil n your beaches. Perhaps if you paid more attention to the disaster in the WH, you would understand why people are so pissed off at obama.
For gods' sake 240 - BF voted for Obama and has seen the reality of what is occuring, don't you think its time you did the same?
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I think more effective than sitting in a circle saying "told ya so!"
would be to get the word out that this mighty ship is available.Let it trickle up to FOX news, so they can feed it to palin's prompter, and of course, obama will activate the ship 12 hours ahead of that so she can be pwned.
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For gods' sake 240 - BF voted for Obama and has seen the reality of what is occuring, don't you think its time you did the same?
1) I didn't vote for obama. My 2008 rally was more of disgust for Bush and Bush2 (mccain) and palin (dangerously overconfident and underqualified).
2) What reality am I denying here?
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I think more effective than sitting in a circle saying "told ya so!"
would be to get the word out that this mighty ship is available.Let it trickle up to FOX news, so they can feed it to palin's prompter, and of course, obama will activate the ship 12 hours ahead of that so she can be pwned.
DEAR GOD YOU ARE CLINICAL.
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Thank you for your honesty. You care more about palin than obama and now have to deal with oil n your beaches. Perhaps if you paid more attention to the disaster in the WH, you would understand why people are so pissed off at obama.
For gods' sake 240 - BF voted for Obama and has seen the reality of what is occuring, don't you think its time you did the same?
I was willing to give Obama 18 months or so as that's what economists usually use as the marker to see whether policy changes are going to work or not. I even spent a good deal of time arguing with you about "giving him a chance" (how wrong I was on that regard).
It's been just about 18 months and his policies haven't done shit but made the situation worse. I can't think of anything positive he's done so I don't see why I should still be receptive to him. That and the far-left has done a great job making people hate them with their constant excuses and other bullshit they spew about the messiah, like his DISASTROUS handling of this oil spill.
72 days into the spill and he MIGHT use this ship that could potentially skim 500,000 gallons a day. He's a fucking winner, alright. ::)
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BAM BAM DOESNT WANT THIS SPILL TO STOP OR BE CLEANED, IT KEEPS THE LAME STREAM MEDIA FROM COVERING HIS CORRUPT CROOKED BACKROOM DEALS AND BILLS HE TRIES TO PASS UNDER OUR NOSES PRETTY SIMPLE!!!
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I'm watching hannity in 3 minutes.
If kagan or some other BS is #1 on the news - and not this 600,000 barrel skimmer -
then they're gotta be in on it too, right?
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240 I FIRST HEARD OF THIS BOAT ON FOX THEN LOOKED IT FOR MYSELF TO SEE IF IT WAS BULLSHIT!!
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#1 issue on hannity tonight - Obama's poll numbers in the UK.
Come on hannity, SERIOUSLY, I want to hear about this big boat. He should be showing video of it NONSTOP
The Gulf needs this boat.
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why arent the liberal tree hugging epa asshats crying for general electric news to talk of this boat? oh yea they dont care about the earth as they claim . they care about redistribution of welth and bam bams agenda.
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next we get to hear about how offended Hannity is that Biden told a shopkeeper not to be a smartass.
I'm completely convinced that Hannity feels this 'smart ass' comment is more important than making americans aware of this giant ship sitting idly as we need it.
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240 I ALREADY TOLD YOU WHERE I FIRST HEARD OF THIS BOAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ON FOX!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT ??? FUNNY YOU WONT TALK BOUT MSNBCRAP !!!!
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when was it on? I watch quite a lot. This should be the #1 story every hour.
instead, we have a blonde bimbo telling hannity that Obama needs to lower our taxes.
I mean, aside from the fact taxes are lower in 09 than they were in 08...
I got bored as they spent 5 minutes talking about how offensive it was to the custard guy.
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it has been on the morning show 2 different times now. and brett bair spoke about it
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the morning show ran the video that i posted off you tube
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in that case... fox and friends got it right. They are usually morons who 'play stupid' and suggest their job is on par with that of the POTUS, so I don't give them much credit.
Hannity is the man with the primetime slot - and right now, we're hearing all sorts of "anyone suppose" and "maybe it was this" about Blaggo.
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wait, wait...
al gore got a handjob. we have the pants to prove it.
Yes, a private citizen getting a nut 4 years ago is SO MUCH MORE IMPORTANT than getting out the word of this awesmoe skimmer.
Look, do we gotta wait for Olbermann to speak on it? Is hannity enjoying his high ratings (easier to attack a bad guy obama than to defend a palin, lord knows!) so he's just helping Obama out here?
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hannity is a joke with the exception of the shows he does that tell us where 18 billion dollars of the stim bill went and how it was waisted
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Oh, I see. The boat would be completely ineffective if they started using it next week then?
get that story out there, we need this boat!
Obama doesnt want it cleaned up.A crisis is what he loves.More opportunity to pass more destructive legislation.THATS his goal.
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it has been on the morning show 2 different times now. and brett bair spoke about it
Bair! Brett Bair!
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wait, wait...
al gore got a handjob. we have the pants to prove it.
Yes, a private citizen getting a nut 4 years ago is SO MUCH MORE IMPORTANT than getting out the word of this awesmoe skimmer.
Look, do we gotta wait for Olbermann to speak on it? Is hannity enjoying his high ratings (easier to attack a bad guy obama than to defend a palin, lord knows!) so he's just helping Obama out here?
Its far more important to talk about the Birch society and try to tie Angle in with them even though she never has been in the group or had any association with them like Maddow does.THATS important stuff.Yes sir MSNBC has very very important things on there such as Shultz going to his go to man on race ,Al Sharpton and his climate guy,Van Jones.THOSE things are important and relevant.
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hey 240 saw this ship again on fox and HLN, and the weather channel, but funny not on msnbcrap!!!!
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what time on fox? i've been on it all day
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around 5:10 or 5:15am and the weather channel did almost ten min story on it not a political story but just talking about the boat itself
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Where are all the libs on this one? Oh, that's right they're proccupied with their crush on Palin.
Amazing that they'll cry about 33 cyring, and drone on endlessly about Palin but utter silence when it comes to criticizing their Messiah. haha
I really hope this story gains some traction.
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i'll try to catch oreilly tonight, maybe he'll cover the story.
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i'll try to catch oreilly tonight, maybe he'll cover the story.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/29/gulf-oil-spill-a-whale-of_n_629575.html
Even the left wing posters realize what a cluster fuck this is.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/29/gulf-oil-spill-a-whale-of_n_629575.html
Even the left wing posters realize what a cluster fuck this is.
Anything Govenment does is a clusterfuck! Its to be expected.
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if its run by churches or the government it will always be a cluster fuck
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hey 240 you catch beck today? guess what he reported on??????
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i missed beck, and FOX doesnt replay him til 2 am... do you have the clip? FOX is keeping this out of primetime :(
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A massive, newly-retooled supertanker that its owner claims could skim millions of gallons of oily water a day is now in the Gulf of Mexico, where government and BP officials intend to run tests shortly to see if it actually works.
With residents of four states complaining about the dearth of skimming vessels off their shores, the 10-story tall, 372-yard long Taiwanese-owned behemoth -- called A Whale -- could be an enormous boon to the region.
Or it could be a really, really big disappointment.
Nobu Su, the CEO and founder of Taiwan Maritime Transport (TMT), told reporters in Norfolk on Friday that on account of the special holes he had cut in its sides, his vessel would roll across the Gulf "like a lawn mower cutting the grass."
Though the ship and the process are entirely untested, Su insisted A Whale could ingest and process some 15 million gallons of oily water a day. By comparison, the entire emergency response since BP's Deepwater Horizon rig exploded on April 20 has collected 28 million gallons of oily water.
Over at the unified command center in downtown New Orleans, federal and BP officials are said to be responding with a combination of enthusiasm and caution.
"They're about as excited as you can be about something that you have no idea what it can do," said Kati Walsh, a spokesperson for the disaster's Joint Information Center. "They want to remain in a neutral position about it until after it proves itself," she said. "We don't want to get everybody excited about something that may or may not work."
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The next step will be for officials to set up a meeting and test the ship's abilities, Walsh said.
That sounded good to Scott Segal, a lobbyist with Bracewell & Giuliani, the law firm TMT hired to represent its interests in Washington. "Their intention is to coordinate with federal authorities on a test, as soon as possible," Segal said of his clients.
But communication appears to be a problem. Segal didn't know the unified command's intentions until he heard about them from the Huffington Post. And the unified command didn't know the ship was already in the Gulf, which, according to the latitude and longitude Segal provided to HuffPost, it is.
No meeting or test has yet been scheduled because federal and BP officials "haven't determined the what or when or how it will get here," Walsh said.
The ship was built in South Korea, has a Liberian registry and is owned by a Taiwanese company, but Walsh said the Jones Act -- which limits the operation of foreign flagged vessels in U.S. waters -- was not a factor as much as the nature of the ship.
While more traditional "vessels of opportunity" are allowed to start skimming without government pre-approval, this one would not be allowed to do so, she said. "The ship was just built, it hasn't been proven yet, hasn't been officially or formally tested yet."
Even if everything goes according to plan, the ship will suck oily water into its huge tanks for processing, then pump still somewhat polluted water back into the Gulf -- possibly requiring a waiver from normal environmental regulations.
And then of course there's the small matter of money. Even if TMT gets permission to begin operations, just how much will it insist on getting paid?
Frank Maisano, a spokesman for with Bracewell & Giuliani, made it clear this is not a charity operation.
"Mr. Nobu has already sailed the ship around the world and modified it at his own expense," Maisano told HuffPost. "I'm sure that he's looking at least to recover his costs."
WATCH a report from when the ship docked in Norfolk, from WVEC.com:
from the huffington post
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The next step will be for officials to set up a meeting and test the ship's abilities, Walsh said.
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More red tape, incompetence, and bungling by the stupid govt.
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The next step will be for officials to set up a meeting and test the ship's abilities, Walsh said.
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More red tape, incompetence, and bungling by the stupid govt.
he'll be criticized either way. If this giant boat floated in and failed - oh brother, you'd have FOX talking about "Obama's Failure" as the boat limped out of there. "Obama finally stepped in for BP, and this is what he gives us? An untested boat that cost the taxpayer $200 million? Come on, that boat would be his Misison Accomplished moment, the 'saviour' ship that could well flub up.
If there were no politics - if this was just some guy cleaning up his backyard - we'd bring in the ship and just TRY IT.
However, in this world of politics, anyone with a shred of honesty here KNOWS that the right-wing media would completely skewer obama if this boat doesn't work.
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So fine, Obama can sit on his lazy communist ass for another 60 days while everything collapses and complain he was afaraid of the reaction of fox news. What a leader we have! ::) ::) ::)
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So fine, Obama can sit on his lazy communist ass for another 60 days while everything collapses and complain he was afaraid of the reaction of fox news. What a leader we have! ::) ::) ::)
sad but true. it's politics. he'd be wise to try 100 solutions and see what sticks. But what happens then?
Politically?
FOX would have a nightly segment "how obama failed in the gulf TODAY"... we all know 'mission accomplished' from bush hurt him a lot politically and may have cost him congress. Politically, it's a loss to try 20 things and have 19 of them fail.
Environmentally?
Obama doesn't get to pass cap/trade... which he believes will serve US energy needs and goals for the next 100 years.
Legally?
BP gets to claim all the govt efforts got in the way of their cleanup and repair - and they refuse to pay out the $. Like Exxon-Valdez, it takes 20 years for people to get their payday, and lawyers fees take most of it... and many of those suing die long before cases settle.
Realistically?
The average layman can't tell a billion barrels from 1.2 billion barrels in the Gulf. Obama can remove himself from blame, keep BP fully liable, not look like a "try try again" clod, and get cap/trade passed by just dragging his feet on this.
Something the "right" thing isn't right.