probably has no choice at this point.
do any of you guys ever plan to compete?
so why do you still workout?
no doubt he will be on hrt the rest of his life but he does not have to take the amounts he is taking now..its for the money no doubt about it
Because "working out" has dozens of benefits that have nothing to do with competing or taking drugs for no reason
Your comparison makes no sense.
Ronnie probably makes pretty decent money guest posing and making personal apperances, etc.
The real question is why is Nasser still so juiced up when all he does it take long romantic walks on the beach with his dog and sell his soiled panties online to a team of brown homosexual boys.
thats a good question........if ronnie isnt dead..........how can ANYONE ever be hurt from steroids.
and on top of that the wieght he carries, blood pressure, heart ect...........
he has been walking around like that for a solid 25 years
We all know people who have been smoking for 40 years and show no signs of health issues.
It's the exception, not the rule.
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no, i have been around bodybuilders and gear for my whole life pretty much.......and have yet to run into anyone who had a problem more serious then some acne, gyno, or a WORST a low sperm count and libeto after decades of abuse
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What a moron
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What a moron
x2. must be blind.
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What a moron
Because he makes money that way. ???\\
Why the fck does anyone care if it might bother his health it's his health, fuck you.
To be honest, most men over 40 should get on HRT until they die. Low test is bad for your health, no joke.
no, the EXCEPTION is people who do get hurt from steroids.......i have been around bodybuilders and gear for my whole life pretty much.......and have yet to run into anyone who had a problem more serious then some acne, gyno, or a WORST a low sperm count and libeto after decades of abuse
with smokers............a MUCH larger percentage will see health issues, and those health issues are usually deadly........
i was bein g kind fo facetious anyway, i understadn why ronnie could do what he does......there are other factors too, he has good doctors , ahs been in statens, and BP meds, ect
\\Who said he's going to die soon ???
Can't do much with the money if he's dead soon
i agree totally but i was just saying his hrt use would be because his natural testestorone shut down permenantlly along time ago. but he is taking ALOT more now then he has to
why would any normal human being enter a gym with out hormones in his system is beyond me,,its a waste of time,,you wanna go and get fit go play football you know the one you play with your legs,,go swim,, go ride a bike,, gym is meant for bodybuilders and fitness enthusiastic and integral part of it is the intake of hormones so you can look impressive and not like a bag of potato chips or after you lose some weight a lose skin bag of potato chips,,
DUMB is the person who enter a gym for a serious training session with out hormones in his or her system,,its a complete waste of time,,go eat healthy and do nothing and you will look very close to the same ,,go run and you will look very close to the same,,
you fellas all know that the so call naturals were addicted and still are to hdrols mdrols and all the drugs that were sold under the title pro hormone lol,,you also know those same so called naturals were and are in many cases on growth hormones and some even on insulin ,,you know that they all on eca on a regular basis and you also know that they take short ester aas both injects and tabs,,
so show me the reason of going into a gym truly natural unless you are a begginer granma or some housewife or fat college kid who wanna lose some weight,,hell even they learn its a waste of time and quit ,,
no hormones = no bodybuilder
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WTF? You couldn't be more wrong!
I can speak from both sides of the fence because I've been a gear user myself in the past but I've also trained for considerable periods of time completely naturally. I've been clean now for nearly 18 months and I've actually continued to maintain the size I had when I was on gear - the only thing that has changed was that I am eating better and cleaner than ever before whereas when I was on gear I was taking it for granted and eating like shit but still gained.
I have proved to myself (and to others) that it's possible to train in a gym naturally for an extended period of time and make gains, better than I've ever done in my life just by doing it properly. I'm bigger than most guys in my gym that are still using gear and they've been training as long as I have, most have been training longer.
This fallacy that bodybuilding in a gym is a waste of time unless you're on gear is only said by people with crap genetics that shit their pants whenever they get under the squat bar naturally and feel that the only way they can succeed is to inject their ass.
why would any normal human being enter a gym with out hormones in his system is beyond me,,its a waste of time,,you wanna go and get fit go play football you know the one you play with your legs,,go swim,, go ride a bike,, gym is meant for bodybuilders and fitness enthusiastic and integral part of it is the intake of hormones so you can look impressive and not like a bag of potato chips or after you lose some weight a lose skin bag of potato chips,,
DUMB is the person who enter a gym for a serious training session with out hormones in his or her system,,its a complete waste of time,,go eat healthy and do nothing and you will look very close to the same ,,go run and you will look very close to the same,,
you fellas all know that the so call naturals were addicted and still are to hdrols mdrols and all the drugs that were sold under the title pro hormone lol,,you also know those same so called naturals were and are in many cases on growth hormones and some even on insulin ,,you know that they all on eca on a regular basis and you also know that they take short ester aas both injects and tabs,,
so show me the reason of going into a gym truly natural unless you are a begginer granma or some housewife or fat college kid who wanna lose some weight,,hell even they learn its a waste of time and quit ,,
no hormones = no bodybuilder
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::)what is your evidence to the contrary?
What a moron
let me tell you a little secret my friend,,your natural test production only stops at one point in time and it is,,,
when youre dead!
it may decrease to minimum for a long time ,,but with or with out hcg it will come back as soon as you off ,,with out hcg will take a year with hcg will take 3 months,,moment you lose al test you become a woman,,i have yet to see a guy growing a clit and having his cock and balls falling
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Because "working out" has dozens of benefits that have nothing to do with competing or taking drugs for no reasonmy point was that he likes to be big, what if you just woke up small one day, it would feel very strange
Your comparison makes no sense.
he's got to be 45 or so now?
does he plan to compete again? or does he need the money from the guest posing?
he's got to be 45 or so now?
does he plan to compete again? or does he need the money from the guest posing?
why would any normal human being enter a gym with out hormones in his system is beyond me,,its a waste of time,,you wanna go and get fit go play football you know the one you play with your legs,,go swim,, go ride a bike,, gym is meant for bodybuilders and fitness enthusiastic and integral part of it is the intake of hormones so you can look impressive and not like a bag of potato chips or after you lose some weight a lose skin bag of potato chips,,
DUMB is the person who enter a gym for a serious training session with out hormones in his or her system,,its a complete waste of time,,go eat healthy and do nothing and you will look very close to the same ,,go run and you will look very close to the same,,
you fellas all know that the so call naturals were addicted and still are to hdrols mdrols and all the drugs that were sold under the title pro hormone lol,,you also know those same so called naturals were and are in many cases on growth hormones and some even on insulin ,,you know that they all on eca on a regular basis and you also know that they take short ester aas both injects and tabs,,
so show me the reason of going into a gym truly natural unless you are a begginer granma or some housewife or fat college kid who wanna lose some weight,,hell even they learn its a waste of time and quit ,,
no hormones = no bodybuilder
gh15 approved
We all know people who have been smoking for 40 years and show no signs of health issues.
It's the exception, not the rule.
Ronnie probably makes pretty decent money guest posing and making personal apperances, etc.
The real question is why is Nasser still so juiced up when all he does it take long romantic walks on the beach with his dog and sell his soiled panties online to a team of brown homosexual boys.
thats total bull. I am a lifetime natural, but I have a good, strong looking physique. Did I have a good physique to begin with, before I ever touched a weight? Yeah, I was always an athlete. But I know I look the way I do now because of lifting. I'm not a competitive bodybuilder by any means, but I do have the genes to build muscle. Most people just never try (or simply don't have the will power or desire) to train extremely consistently for years on end. It pays off if you eat right, train right, and if you have good genes.
WTF? You couldn't be more wrong!
I've been clean now for nearly 18 months and I've actually continued to maintain the size I had when I was on gear
I have proved to myself (and to others) that it's possible to train in a gym naturally for an extended period of time and make gains, better than I've ever done in my life just by doing it properly.
He has his reasons! ;D
training naturally is not a waste of time. you will never get the results of a hormone user but bench over 315 for a few reps squat deep 315 for a few reps and dl 500 for a few reps aint too shabby and even beats some of the juicers at the gyms. :-*
also you don't have to deal with sides and ruined organs. :)
True. However, no one will ever mistake you for a bodybuilder when you walk around in a t-shirt. :Dnever said i looked like a bodybuilder :)
I know some very strong natural powerlifters and despite all that heavy training there's not much mass. No delt mass as gh15 says, no traps, not much of anything. Some have pretty big legs but that's pretty much it.
No hormones = no bodybuilding as we know it.
Exactly. Gh15 is pretty clueless as to the motivations behinds working out other than to impress others, which is blatantly obvious by his posts.
Lifting keeps you looking and feeling young and healthy. Couple that with a clean diet, NOT a bodybuilding diet, and you're good for 80-100 years of good living in all likelihood. Nothing wrong with that.
never said i looked like a bodybuilder :)
I didn't say you did. Just illustrating the backside of staying natural. No one will know you train just by looking at you. Not saying you or anyone else wants that. But IF you did... :Derhh people comment on my size all the time and can definately tell I work out.
LOL Bay you just broke the hearts of 100's of Ronnie fan boys here on GB! ;D
True. However, no one will ever mistake you for a bodybuilder when you walk around in a t-shirt. :D
I know some very strong natural powerlifters and despite all that heavy training there's not much mass. No delt mass as gh15 says, no traps, not much of anything. Some have pretty big legs but that's pretty much it.
No hormones = no bodybuilding as we know it.
True. However, no one will ever mistake you for a bodybuilder when you walk around in a t-shirt. :D
I know some very strong natural powerlifters and despite all that heavy training there's not much mass. No delt mass as gh15 says, no traps, not much of anything. Some have pretty big legs but that's pretty much it.
No hormones = no bodybuilding as we know it.
Sorry, to burst those bubbles . . . but photos do not lie. Even so, it is hard to compete with the power of denial. In another thread, someone said that pic was not gay because they were only holding hands and their fingers were not interlaced. Yeah, ok... whatever. This is the sort of person who could walk in on his wife wife having sex with another man and say it wasn't true infidelity because he didn't see the cum shot. ::)
So which is it, are you maintaining or are you gaining? Lots of people claim to gain while off but it's total BS in pretty much all cases. The real scenario: the ones who do not lose much weight get softer ( read: fat) and the ones who maintain or lose fat also lose considerable muscle. I have never ever seen the opposite, no matter how bad the diet was on gear and how perfect it was when off. It just doesn't happen.
It would be great if someone posted before and after pics of someone who went clean for say a year, someone who maintained everything or gained muscle when going off. I won't hold my breath though. ;)
You fuckers need to shut it and accept GH15 as your lord and savior >:(
Wiggs the pothead approved. 8)
God of Hormones, forgive them for they know not what they say.
Actually that's one of the better posts of GH15. I did several cycles myself, now clean (really lol) for about 3 years, and I can mostly confirm what he's saying. I mean I still look pretty good, better than most people at the gyms, but the fact remains: The outcome by going the clean way is laughable compared to the effort you have to put into. On Test when I was partying, eating shit, no Cardio, I still made way more progress than clean when everything is close to a 100 %.yes,,,,and it dosen't mean they would look better overall but the strenght and mass gain would be signifigant ,in there eyes there puffy bloated look is equivalent or better than your clean and maybe harder look.but like u said you need the worlds to collide each and evry wkout day and at the dinner table to make a dent either to gain size or to diet lean,this is for just a 4/5 day lifter to look good at the beach or be the big shot at a friends barbecue.competing clean is whole nother story ,,,u can have a good build clean,freaky no ...but everybody's goal is not freaky,that includes freaky hardness or leaness..good build overall is a good goal.
A rookie who trains for less then 1 year and starts juicing can blow away a guy who lifts natural for 10+ years within a few months.
why would any normal human being enter a gym with out hormones in his system is beyond me,,its a waste of time,,you wanna go and get fit go play football you know the one you play with your legs,,go swim,, go ride a bike,, gym is meant for bodybuilders and fitness enthusiastic and integral part of it is the intake of hormones so you can look impressive and not like a bag of potato chips or after you lose some weight a lose skin bag of potato chips,,
DUMB is the person who enter a gym for a serious training session with out hormones in his or her system,,its a complete waste of time,,go eat healthy and do nothing and you will look very close to the same ,,go run and you will look very close to the same,,
you fellas all know that the so call naturals were addicted and still are to hdrols mdrols and all the drugs that were sold under the title pro hormone lol,,you also know those same so called naturals were and are in many cases on growth hormones and some even on insulin ,,you know that they all on eca on a regular basis and you also know that they take short ester aas both injects and tabs,,
so show me the reason of going into a gym truly natural unless you are a begginer granma or some housewife or fat college kid who wanna lose some weight,,hell even they learn its a waste of time and quit ,,
no hormones = no bodybuilder
gh15 approved
he lost all creditability when he said twink white boy was extent of natural muscle selection. straight up douche fake ifbber.here since im eating pizza and in good mood righgt now because brazil duchland game is getting upon us ,,,ill reveal here few other facts you fellas need to know if you ever wanna be a bodybuilder,,take pen and paper becazuse this is gold
here since im eating pizza and in good mood righgt now because brazil duchland game is getting upon us ,,,ill reveal here few other facts you fellas need to know if you ever wanna be a bodybuilder,,take pen and paper becazuse this is gold
1 sucesful bodybuilders wether amatuer or professional always grow on TESTOSTERONE ,,legit human grade test and NOTHING EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE TO UNDERGROUND TEST,,we leave this to the fools among you lol
2 real norma test or schering or icn ,,will grow you lean very fast ,,on day 18 the average bodybuilder with average repomd will be 15 lb bigger you got that right ,,thats what aliamino dont want you to know,, day 18 you up 15 lb on legit norma test and legit dianabol ,,the growth will continue when you stop dianabol ,,,
3 the growth will be on a daily basis not weekly basis ,, almost every day increase in weight and size,,while waist dont increase or increase by very little ,the increse on human grade is always inside the muscle from within whiole on aas alone
4. the adding of gh and insukin wil create a monster but will grow your gut ,,thats only way you wil ever be able to see 230 anything at 6% at 5'9 growth and slin together added to aas ,,if no gh and slin you will always be stuck at 230 240 at 8-9 % if very very lucky and good respond to the hormones
5 americano bodybuilders are very very sick as in lie their way through life,, international bodybuider do it but much much less
6 most bodybuilders who get somewhere have pharma test as base of any cycle never off basically only change doses ,,and they play with dianabol 3 weeks on 3 off then again 3 on 3 off ,,,thats the name of the game dianabol legit pharma and testosterone legit pharma ,,the tren comes from good sources and usually the gym rats are much more into it than the top competitors
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it's pointless trying to be a mass monster the natural way because you end up being fat and unhealthyThis!
natural trainers are better served staying lean and having good overall fitness
bodybuilding was supposed to be part of a healthy lifestyle
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my point was that he likes to be big, what if you just woke up small one day, it would feel very strangeI don't have the get as massive as possible mindset, so I can't think like Ronnie. But I would almost think he or any of these guys, might look forward to shrinking a liitle. Stay lean but smaller,more comfortable. Ronnie is so huge and bloated. For what? Maybe he knows if he leaned up everyone might see how messed up certain bodyparts are. Who knows
GH15 is an asshole who has the grammar of a 5th grader. Why would anyone listen to him? :-X
im never wrong,, you would get it up after 2 years if waited unles you died before,,inanycase you made a baby on hcg ,,so for the ones in rush and the ones who dont wanna be depressed hcg is the fast way into being a daddy,,which is not such a big privilage in today generation ,,the way this generation look like...
hormones are not drugs,,they dont hurt you at all,, what fuck the bodybuilding community is the abuse of narcotics pain killers and alcohol while they felt invinsible on aas...
hcg and no hcg you recover ,,one is a lot slower one if faster ,,you want baby fast after years of used ,,do some hcg for few months and you get a baby fast,, the end
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in some cultures it is common for two men to hold hands
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GH15 is an asshole who has the grammar of a 5th grader. Why would anyone listen to him? :-XBecause he speaks the truth
Typical F@ggot Republican.
Ronnie probably makes pretty decent money guest posing and making personal apperances, etc.LMAO....quoted for the truth! :D
The real question is why is Nasser still so juiced up when all he does it take long romantic walks on the beach with his dog and sell his soiled panties online to a team of brown homosexual boys.
im never wrong,, you would get it up after 2 years if waited unles you died before,,inanycase you made a baby on hcg ,,so for the ones in rush and the ones who dont wanna be depressed hcg is the fast way into being a daddy,,which is not such a big privilage in today generation ,,the way this generation look like...
hormones are not drugs,,they dont hurt you at all,, what fuck the bodybuilding community is the abuse of narcotics pain killers and alcohol while they felt invinsible on aas...
hcg and no hcg you recover ,,one is a lot slower one if faster ,,you want baby fast after years of used ,,do some hcg for few months and you get a baby fast,, the end
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GH15.
i am on 400mg of test cype x 12 weeks. I am also on letro for gyno. The wife wants to have a kid soon. All I have is 5000IU of HCG. whats the best way to use it? 500 IU twice week, and start it 2 weeks after the cycle is done?
friends,,i can not answeer each and every one of you individually on this postings,,im gonna write here the final word about this subject so its very clear,,
every single day there are over 1000 packages sent to americana that has hormones inside them,,this is every single day almost 365 days a year,,you do the math my friends,,who order this things? Y O U ,,all the so call naturalos,,all the so call drug free ,,all the so call gh but not aas usage ,,all the so call amatuer athletes and professional athlete,,americana is FULL OF IT ,,poisioned from within especially since you can not get it in the pharmacy,,
you fellas,,some of you ,,well all of you know im right ofcourse,,but some of you like to give me other point of views,,it would be good if it was true btu its not,,you fellas need to realize the packaging to americana never been so high ,,EBVER!,,
GH15 MAYBE YOU`RE RIGHT CAUSE FOR EXAMPLE SEVERAL YEARS THE ONLY THING I DO IS GOING IN A CIRCLE-I GAIN WEIGHT,THE DIET IS PERFECT,MY STRENGHT INCREASE,I LIFT HEAVIER AND IMPROVE EVERY WORKOUT...THEN I START DIETING-MY STRENGHT START DROPING WORKOUT AFTER WORKOUT,I BECOME DRYER AND DRYER BUT MY STRENGHT DECREASE-IN THE END I LOOK THE SAME LIKE WHEN I STARTED YEARS BACK...I ASK MYSELF IS IT REALLY WORTH SACRIFACING ALL THIS CLEAN EATING,TRAINING WITH ALMOST NO VISIBLE IMPROVEMENTS YEAR AFTER YEAR NATURAL...AND IS IT REALLY WORTH TAKING AAS IF YOUR PLAN IS NOT TO COMPETE BUT FEEL GOOD WITH YOURSELF...
a fella truly natural and that means no hdrol no mdrol and all those drugs ,,wouls stand at 5'10 180 10% if tendcy to build muscle is there and if VERY VERY DEDICATED AND DONT SKIP ANY MEAL AND TREAT IT LIKE IT WAS HIS LIFE DEPENDENT ON !,,with the add of oral drugs such as mdrol and the such that fella will climb up to 190lb same bodyfat,,if very very lucky super wet soaked he will be 195 lol still wont be even remotely close to 6% more like 9-10% the good case,,
you fellas need to understand ,,and mostr of you do ,,that the natural truly natural bodybuilder is like a dinosaour ,,he can not do anything but sit in his house be jobless and live on his paretns ,,can not afford to lose energy ,,canafford to skip even one meal!..can not do it because loss of size of muscle will be immediate,,he always have to supplemtn with poweders,,always have to do many many things that prevent him from having any normalicy in his life,,he caznt even go out,,
look around you even the ones who say they are naturaals have life,,they do things,,they have girls ,,they eat out ,,yet they dont seem to lose a lot of size,,why>>?? because THEY LIE TO YOUR FACE,,they all use they just use it in diff way and very very particular and not a risk takers,,americanos are VERY VERY GOOD AT THAT,,they just dont talk ,,they keep to themselves,,
there is not such a thing as 230lb anything at 5'10 at 10% nsaturally or clean ,,if you been before hormonized 240lb at 10%,,,you become soft and increase body fat wether you want it or not due to lower testosterona in system,,you got to understand it ,,you may be 220 5'10 but you also wil be 15-16% body fat most times 20% and in some times you dont even notice but shoot up to over 20 percent with tons of water held due to estrogenic rebound out of this world,,
it doesnt happen to 99% of naturals because they are simply not naturals nor they are clean ,,,they use on regular basis,,
people do not understand that hormones work from the first minute you take them ,,they do their thing from first minute ,,you just feel it at its peek after 2-3 weeks,,when its at his peek it will take the body 3 weeks to even look less impressive even if you hardly train or eat like shit ,,,on hormones you can simply eat lots of junk and people will still think you eat clean ,,it allowes you the ability to do tons of mitakes and still look 10 times better than any natural out there ,,
also when most people say they are clean after years of using ,,they stil have lots of shit in system,,for not to forget ,,when you stop taking legit test you still gonna have all the effects for the whole time you been on period after stop taking it ,,meaning if you took it for 6 weeks ,,6 weeks after last inject you will look pretty damn close to the same,,
be smart fellas dont be morons,,
1 inject of real legit norma testosterona every 4rth day 250mg ,,will make the pusy of all pussys an impressive looking bodybuilder even if he put half the time of the 10 year dedicated "clean" lifter put in,,
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why would any normal human being enter a gym with out hormones in his system is beyond me,,its a waste of time,,you wanna go and get fit go play football you know the one you play with your legs,,go swim,, go ride a bike,, gym is meant for bodybuilders and fitness enthusiastic and integral part of it is the intake of hormones so you can look impressive and not like a bag of potato chips or after you lose some weight a lose skin bag of potato chips,,
DUMB is the person who enter a gym for a serious training session with out hormones in his or her system,,its a complete waste of time,,go eat healthy and do nothing and you will look very close to the same ,,go run and you will look very close to the same,,
you fellas all know that the so call naturals were addicted and still are to hdrols mdrols and all the drugs that were sold under the title pro hormone lol,,you also know those same so called naturals were and are in many cases on growth hormones and some even on insulin ,,you know that they all on eca on a regular basis and you also know that they take short ester aas both injects and tabs,,
so show me the reason of going into a gym truly natural unless you are a begginer granma or some housewife or fat college kid who wanna lose some weight,,hell even they learn its a waste of time and quit ,,
no hormones = no bodybuilder
gh15 approved
lol
lol
Ronnie probably makes pretty decent money guest posing and making personal apperances, etc.hahahha
The real question is why is Nasser still so juiced up when all he does it take long romantic walks on the beach with his dog and sell his soiled panties online to a team of brown homosexual boys.