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Eventually - all of you will wake up.
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Cant you see what this is?The Hillary campaign has started.
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Cant you see what this is?The Hillary campaign has started.
Good. Obama is an enemy of the state and clear and present danger to all taxpayers and law abiding citizens.
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where does carville say obama is killing the economy ???
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where does carville say obama is killing the economy ???
Watch it again - he says the Fed govt - via the moriturium is killing the economy. Obama is pushing the moritrium, no one else.
obama is the enemy of everyone but Goldman, BP, welfare bums, illegals, and govt employee unions.
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James Carville: "Obama is killing the economy"
this is the way you wrote it, i think you watch a little too much fox news :D :D :D :D
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James Carville: "Obama is killing the economy"
this is the way you wrote it, i think you watch a little too much fox news :D :D :D :D
No, who is pushing the ending of drilling over there? Obama. Who failed to reform the MMS and gave the waiver to BP? Obama/Salazar
Sorry Blacken - Obama = FAIL ON ALL COUNTS
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stop spinning your digging a hole :D :D :D the way you wrote it leads people to believe carville said obama ,and he did not ;D
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stop spinning your digging a hole :D :D :D the way you wrote it leads people to believe carville said obama ,and he did not ;D
Is there a difference? No.
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stop spinning your digging a hole :D :D :D the way you wrote it leads people to believe carville said obama ,and he did not ;D
What do u expect from 333's?
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Is there a difference? No.
Can we count on you using Carville as one of your favorite sources for political references from now on, PEA BRAIN?
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Can we count on you using Carville as one of your favorite sources for political references from now on, PEA BRAIN?
The truth is too hard for you obama nuts to accept. obama is a collosal failure on all counts and even many dems are seeing it.
BTW - I found a video that fits you, blacken, mons, to a tee. Do I need to bump your old posts shilling for this jerk?
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You must not have read the question, even though you quoted it, so I'll ask again:
Can we count on you using Carville as one of your favorite sources for political references from now on, PEA BRAIN?
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Carville is already on record bashing Obama over his malfeasance in office. He is down there and knows what is going on. Or does Carville get thrown under the bus like Bolden too now?
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Carville is already on record bashing Obama over his malfeasance in office. He is down there and knows what is going on. Or does Carville get thrown under the bus like Bolden too now?
I look forward to your support of James Carville and his positions over the next couple of years, PEA BRAIN! Like you, I'd hate to see you "throw him under the bus" at some point in the future! :-X
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Watch this one. Even the woman who obama took the photo op says she feels used by him for a photo.
Obama is a communist pofs.
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I look forward to your support of James Carville and his positions over the next couple of years, PEA BRAIN! Like you, I'd hate to see you "throw him under the bus" at some point in the future! :-X
I love seeing you cultists witness the failures of your Dear Messiah. You fools marched to the pols with the idea "when Barack gets in there, we will show the true Anti-Bush and how great things can be".
Now, having the opportunity to show leadership and competence, obama has handled this mess even worse than Bush did Katrina and even people who were once proud supporters realize it.
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I love seeing you cultists witness the failures of your Dear Messiah. You fools marched to the pols with the idea "when Barack gets in there, we will show the true Anti-Bush and how great things can be".
Now, having the opportunity to show leadership and competence, obama has handled this mess even worse than Bush did Katrina and even people who were once proud supporters realize it.
Limbaugh inspired meltdown. :(
(http://dealbreaker.com/2009/06/02/Meltdown.jpg)
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Cant you see what this is?The Hillary campaign has started.
I wonder how Obama is going to feel when Hillary challenges him in 2012?
I think it'd be more of a gradual transition, rather than a challenge. She'd be resigning her job pretty damn soon if she was gonna start a campaign next year.
Instead, I think Obama would say "ya know, I would like to spend more time with my family" and turn it over to hilary. that would be a NIGHTMARE for the Republicans. Remember - a lot of them VOTED hilary to mess with obama in 2008. A lot of them have spent the last 18 months talking about how Hilary would have done such a great job. Plus a bunch of you softie "repubs" even on getbig were Clinton voters in 92.
So yes... Obama may be beatable in 2012... but Hilary would knock the shit out of a Palin in a debate, let's be honest. A male canddiate can't attack a female candidate too hard - but a female candidate could show her what TOUGH really means.
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I think it'd be more of a gradual transition, rather than a challenge. She'd be resigning her job pretty damn soon if she was gonna start a campaign next year.
Instead, I think Obama would say "ya know, I would like to spend more time with my family" and turn it over to hilary. that would be a NIGHTMARE for the Republicans. Remember - a lot of them VOTED hilary to mess with obama in 2008. A lot of them have spent the last 18 months talking about how Hilary would have done such a great job. Plus a bunch of you softie "repubs" even on getbig were Clinton voters in 92.
So yes... Obama may be beatable in 2012... but Hilary would knock the shit out of a Palin in a debate, let's be honest. A male canddiate can't attack a female candidate too hard - but a female candidate could show her what TOUGH really means.
The WSJ ran an op-ed calling for Hillary POTUS right NOW! Its brutual against Obama. some guy named Du Pont.
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Hillary Clinton for President
The secretary of state could mount a formidable challenge to Obama..
www.wsj.com
By PETE DU PONT
America's economy is failing to produce jobs, increase growth or raise confidence, and it will likely get even worse next year. Our federal government's spending has increased to $3.7 trillion this year from $2.98 trillion in 2008. Publicly held national debt is up by $2.4 trillion in less than two years, to about 63% percent of GDP from 40%, and is expected to reach 70% by 2012. Add in the unemployment rate, which has remained above 9.4% for over a year, and America is clearly failing economically.
Next January the economy will be further depressed by increasing tax rates. The top income tax rate will rise to 39.6% from 35%, and the phase-out of itemized deductions and personal exemptions will effectively lift the top bracket to about 40.8%. On New Year's Day the tax on dividends is scheduled to go up to 39.6% from 15%, and come 2013, ObamaCare will add another 3.8%.
Other bad public policies will further drag down the economy. ObamaCare will increase individual costs and expand the deficit. Failing energy policies, from Washington's inept response to the Deepwater Horizon oil spill to its effort to limit tapping America's oil supplies, will drive up our use of imported foreign oil beyond the current 67% of our country's oil consumption.
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Add together all these increases in government regulation, spending and taxes and a dim employment outlook, and the result is a dramatic national decline in support of the White House, Congress and their administration of our national policies.
So what can be done to change America's policies and make our economy stronger? For one thing, we could elect a president with different thinking. Almost any Republican candidate would have that, and, as we will see in a moment, there is one obvious Democrat who would change our course too.
And why would the Democratic Party want to do that? Because the re-election of President Obama is becoming more problematic. The latest Rasmussen Reports polls show the dramatic decline of the presidential approval index, the difference between those who "strongly approve" of Mr. Obama's performance and those who "strongly disapprove." It began at plus 25% when the new president was sworn in, and has steadily declined to minus 13%.
It isn't just the president whose poll numbers are falling fast. According to recent Harris polling, Vice President Biden viewed favorably by 26% of the public and unfavorably by 45%. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi does even worse, 20% positive to 49% negative. A June Nevada poll gave Sen. Harry Reid, the majority leader, 33% approval and 52% disapproval.
But the greatest contrast and most interesting statistic is Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's ratings: 45% favorable and only 35% unfavorable.
That is not surprising, and there are some obvious factors that suggest she might have a chance of defeating President Obama if she were to challenge him for the 2012 Democratic nomination.
First, as Peggy Noonan wrote earlier this month, the conclusion one hears from most "normal" American people is that the president "is in over his head, and out of his depth." Even most progressives agree that "the Obama presidency has been a big disappointment," according to Eric Alterman of The Nation. That means there's a big opportunity for Mrs. Clinton.
Second, she is physically and intellectually strong enough to take on a difficult campaign. She showed that running against Obama two years ago.
Third, she is one of the most experienced prospective candidates the Democratic Party has had in a long while: wife of a governor, U.S. first lady, senator and now secretary of state. This is a good record to run on as someone who knows how the government works.
Fourth, she is an experienced foreign-policy adviser who understands the threats to our national security: unresolved conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq, rising threats of nuclear capability in Iran and North Korea, and uncertainties in Pakistan.
Fifth, experience will be even more important to voters in the 2012 presidential election, whose 2008 gamble on someone with little experience is proving costly.
Finally, Washington's deadly left-liberal policies that have propelled the American economy in a very bad direction can be turned around. If Mrs. Clinton made the case that America must get rid of the huge debt the current administration has created, must create much better economic growth with lower tax rates, and must strongly assist employer job creation, she would appeal to a broad voter coalition.
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All this must be obvious to the inner circle of the current president's administration. So what is he to do? That's pretty simple--just add his secretary of state to the 2012 ticket as his new running mate.
We don't know whether Mr. Obama is already thinking about making this kind of change next year, but we do know he needs some very good policy outcomes to be re-elected. And if none of these Obama changes come to pass, Mrs. Clinton could put together a very effective campaign to get the nomination for herself.
Considering how badly things are going in America just now, that could turn out to be a slam dunk for her and the disgruntled Democratic Party.
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The WSJ ran op-ed...
You could have just stopped typing right there, dipshit. ::)
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You could have just stopped typing right there, dipshit. ::)
I guess the most popular and respected business newspaper is not credible to you?
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seriously 33 - you should be terrified of a Hilary 2012 run.
She'd run as a moderate, and she'd win 8 years, we all know that.
It's be CLinton II - KEEPING IN PLACE all of the huge Obama changes.
He'd take the hit to reputation for getting in 40 years of lib policy in a single term, then retire with his riches. Hilary would keep everything in place, and we woudln't see a return to conservatism until 2020 at the earliest!
Reminds me of the fake youtube clip from mid-october (Mccain drops palin, adds romney)... I read it at 3 am and thought to myself, "McCain just won the election..."
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I guess the most popular and respected business newspaper is not credible to you?
Their editorial page? No, it isn't credible at all, sorry.
The Financial Times is a superior financial paper too.
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seriously 33 - you should be terrified of a Hilary 2012 run.
She'd run as a moderate, and she'd win 8 years, we all know that.
It's be CLinton II - KEEPING IN PLACE all of the huge Obama changes.
He'd take the hit to reputation for getting in 40 years of lib policy in a single term, then retire with his riches. Hilary would keep everything in place, and we woudln't see a return to conservatism until 2020 at the earliest!
Reminds me of the fake youtube clip from mid-october (Mccain drops palin, adds romney)... I read it at 3 am and thought to myself, "McCain just won the election..."
I disagree.Obama and her would bloody each other up so badly that a republican would win the general.Beleve me,the next time she runs against Barack Hussein Obama,the gloves will be off.Rev. Wright and the rest are on the table.She saw what happened last time,she will turn it into an election of race in the primary and then it will be too late to convince blacks to come out and vote in the general.
Once again,without Palin McCain wouldnt have got 20% o the vote.Romney excites NO ONE!!
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Their editorial page? No, it isn't credible at all, sorry.
The Financial Times is a superior financial paper too.
You mean the one that just ran an article claiming we have a crisis of confidence in this nation due to Barrys' incompetence and failed policies?
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I disagree.Obama and her would bloody each other up so badly that a republican would win the general.Beleve me,the next time she runs against Barack Hussein Obama,the gloves will be off.Rev. Wright and the rest are on the table.She saw what happened last time,she will turn it into an election of race in the primary and then it will be too late to convince blacks to come out and vote in the general.
Once again,without Palin McCain wouldnt have got 20% o the vote.Romney excites NO ONE!!
Re-read what I said. I think it could actually be a coordinated effort between Obama and hilary. He's talked a lot about being a 1-term president. He's gotten done just about everything done that he wanted to get done (or will by the end of the year).
The nightmare for Repubs comes if he hands over the reigns to hilary. if its done peacefully, he retires with his millions, knowing he won't win and ready to leave on his own terms instead of losing the election.
Hilary would wreck the repubs.
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Re-read what I said. I think it could actually be a coordinated effort between Obama and hilary. He's talked a lot about being a 1-term president. He's gotten done just about everything done that he wanted to get done (or will by the end of the year).
The nightmare for Repubs comes if he hands over the reigns to hilary. if its done peacefully, he retires with his millions, knowing he won't win and ready to leave on his own terms instead of losing the election.
Hilary would wreck the repubs.
Obama HATES the Clintons and Clinton HATES himClinton thinks Obama is a racist as he accused him of thug politics and playing the race card on him.
Hilary would get crushed.Obama has destroyed the democrat brand for many many years to come.You will see that in Nov.and it will get worse and worse and worse in his last two years.By the time this racist is done,no whites will vote democrat for twenty years and Hilary will have just beat Obama so no blacks will vote for her either.
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Re-read what I said. I think it could actually be a coordinated effort between Obama and hilary. He's talked a lot about being a 1-term president. He's gotten done just about everything done that he wanted to get done (or will by the end of the year).
The nightmare for Repubs comes if he hands over the reigns to hilary. if its done peacefully, he retires with his millions, knowing he won't win and ready to leave on his own terms instead of losing the election.
Hilary would wreck the repubs.
It could be 240 - since i think obama is lazy as shit and probably does not want to work anymore. If he could make millions a year by giving canned stupid speeches to gullible followers, why not? this would be especially true if the GOP takes back the congress and Barry's agenda goes caput.
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It could be 240 - since i think obama is lazy as shit and probably does not want to work anymore. If he could make millions a year by giving canned stupid speeches to gullible followers, why not? this would be especially true if the GOP takes back the congress and Barry's agenda goes caput.
Agreed on all counts. He would love to "go out on top"... get everything done that he wanted, then retire without a loss in 2012. He knows he'll essentially be a "lame duck" for the next 6 years, let's be honest.
And yes BILLY, I know obama and hilary hate each other - but they have had a great working relationship as she was 'groomed' to take over in 2012 with the Sec of State job. At this point - there is absolutely NO REPUB candidate who can say s/he's more prepared than Hilary for the job.
I think if it meant obama remains 'undefeated' - winning the senate then prez jobs, getting everything done that he wanted - and retiring by age 50 with $100 million in the bank - he can EASILY achieve this.
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Agreed on all counts. He would love to "go out on top"... get everything done that he wanted, then retire without a loss in 2012. He knows he'll essentially be a "lame duck" for the next 6 years, let's be honest.
And yes BILLY, I know obama and hilary hate each other - but they have had a great working relationship as she was 'groomed' to take over in 2012 with the Sec of State job. At this point - there is absolutely NO REPUB candidate who can say s/he's more prepared than Hilary for the job.
I think if it meant obama remains 'undefeated' - winning the senate then prez jobs, getting everything done that he wanted - and retiring by age 50 with $100 million in the bank - he can EASILY achieve this.
Another thing, obama probably knows most second terms don't go too well as it is, coupled with the horrifc shape our economy will be in as a result of his policies, and probably figures, like you said, go out while he still has the chance to make millions to do nothing like Bill Clinton does. .
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Agreed on all counts. He would love to "go out on top"... get everything done that he wanted, then retire without a loss in 2012. He knows he'll essentially be a "lame duck" for the next 6 years, let's be honest.
And yes BILLY, I know obama and hilary hate each other - but they have had a great working relationship as she was 'groomed' to take over in 2012 with the Sec of State job. At this point - there is absolutely NO REPUB candidate who can say s/he's more prepared than Hilary for the job.
I think if it meant obama remains 'undefeated' - winning the senate then prez jobs, getting everything done that he wanted - and retiring by age 50 with $100 million in the bank - he can EASILY achieve this.
Again,you miss the point.Bill Clinton won by getting huge amounts of blacks to vote for him.Obama won by getting huge amounts of blacks to vote for him.
Clinton beats Obama,or he steps down,blacks will not come out to vote for Hilary.It wont happen.They will stay home.Whites now are really starting to dislike Obama.Look at the independants that left him.In two more years it will be darn near furry towards him and democrats.
Its not Hilary that hates Obama,its Bill that hates him.So,you have blacks staying home in droves,whites turning on democrats in droves,the country in a shambles,sorry,Jesus could run as a democrat and will lose.
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Another thing, obama probably knows most second terms don't go too well as it is, coupled with the horrifc shape our economy will be in as a result of his policies, and probably figures, like you said, go out while he still has the chance to make millions to do nothing like Bill Clinton does. .
I think most "popular" people - who have always come out shining, always left on top -
I think they might see a potential loss looming, and make a run for the door keeping their pride intact.
The Repubs' entire 2012 message - Let's vote out Obama - you know, the whole anti-Bush thing only reversed, would be neutralized. imagine if, in 2006, Bush had retired for family reasons, appointed Rudy Guiliani VP, then Cheney had retired for health reasons a month later. Two years of President Rudy, and the Dems would have had ZILCH to complain about in 2008... Rudy would have won, piece of cake.
Dems would take away the anti-Obama sentiment in 2012. They'd put up a MODERATE that many repubs love, and Hilary would completely wreck a Palin or Romney in a debate and on experience. Imagine Sarah Palin lecturing Hilary on foreign leaders/policy LMAO... Imagine Romney lecturing Hilary on how to fix the economy LOL...
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I think most "popular" people - who have always come out shining, always left on top -
I think they might see a potential loss looming, and make a run for the door keeping their pride intact.
The Repubs' entire 2012 message - Let's vote out Obama - you know, the whole anti-Bush thing only reversed, would be neutralized. imagine if, in 2006, Bush had retired for family reasons, appointed Rudy Guiliani VP, then Cheney had retired for health reasons a month later. Two years of President Rudy, and the Dems would have had ZILCH to complain about in 2008... Rudy would have won, piece of cake.
Dems would take away the anti-Obama sentiment in 2012. They'd put up a MODERATE that many repubs love, and Hilary would completely wreck a Palin or Romney in a debate and on experience. Imagine Sarah Palin lecturing Hilary on foreign leaders/policy LMAO... Imagine Romney lecturing Hilary on how to fix the economy LOL...
Maybe Sarah could shove a no tax pledge in Hillarys' face like Lazio did. Ha ha ha.
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Maybe Sarah could shove a no tax pledge in Hillarys' face like Lazio did. Ha ha ha.
hilary didn't control Obama's tax policy. Her ownership of foreign policy is pretty decent, right? She can blame obama for everything wrong after 2008, blame bush for everything wrong before 2008, and promise everyone we'll now return to... drum roll please... the Bill Clinton Era.
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hilary didn't control Obama's tax policy. Her ownership of foreign policy is pretty decent, right? She can blame obama for everything wrong after 2008, blame bush for everything wrong before 2008, and promise everyone we'll now return to... drum roll please... the Bill Clinton Era.
Hilary isnt Bill,she has ZERO chraisma,if she did,she would be president NOW!!This country will be in a sorry state in two years and democrats are going to get blamed.Hilary isnt skilled enough to turn that around.She is dung on the bottom of her husbands shoe.No charisma,no energy,no star power at all.Obama has destroyed the democrat brand worse then anything Bush did to republicanism.
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Hilary isnt Bill,she has ZERO chraisma,if she did,she would be president NOW!!
LOL! Um, she was one state shy of winning the dem nomination.
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LOL! Um, she was one state shy of winning the dem nomination.
Your joking right?She was a sitting senator from NY.Married to a president who was beloved in the democratic party and a guy whos presidency was seen as being very good.She was the front runner by 100 miles going in where they almost just gave her the nomination.And they were running against a party that was despised at the time.
She lost to a community organiser with a racist,radical background.A man who had less expieriance then ANY presidential nominee in history.A man who had reems of dubious statements and associations tied to a rev. that was more racist then David Duke and she couldnt muster up enough support to beat him.A guy no one heard of before except for one speech.She had a political machine behind her unrivaled and couldnt beat a little community organiser.
You can justify it anyway you want but people she should have had in her pocket,like Bill Richardson and Ted Kennedy ,blew her off because they didnt think she had anything going for her at all.
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It wasn't just blacks. A lot of whites voted for Obama. They backed him up with their wallets and campaigned for the messiah.
At this rate, most whites will not vote Democrat in 2012. But, lets say that they do elect a Democrat as president. That Democrat won't enjoy a majority in both houses, like the current clown in the white house.
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Eventually - all of you will wake up.
Dime a dozen attorney spin.
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I cant even begin to imagine to understand what it must feel like being an obama supporter lately. Failures abound, treason every day, incompetence, etc.
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I voted for McCain and I would do so again regardless of who ran for the dems-- But I could have lived with Hillary. 1000x the experience, respect from the international community, Bill Clinton acting as de facto prez--- It would have been a much more moderate, competant and less polarizing presidency.
Obama will not be reelected no matter what. I can envision a Republican controlled Congress with Hillary at the big seat in 2012. A return to peace and prosperity.
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I voted for McCain and I would do so again regardless of who ran for the dems-- But I could have lived with Hillary. 1000x the experience, respect from the international community, Bill Clinton acting as de facto prez--- It would have been a much more moderate, competant and less polarizing presidency.
Obama will not be reelected no matter what. I can envision a Republican controlled Congress with Hillary at the big seat in 2012. A return to peace and prosperity.
I voted for McCain for the following reasons:
1. SC Picks
2. Check on the Congress
3. I like Sarah the person.
4. I knew for all his faults, McCain was not a committed communist dead set on collapsing the natiion.
So far, my rationale has nbeen mostly spot on accurate, regardless of how you feel about Mama Grizzly.
SC picks of obama are a joke, pelosi/reid are a partnership from hell, and Obama is proving every day he does not give a damn about this nation.
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3. I like Sarah the person.
What does this mean? I like my grandma 'as a person' but I know her common sense just isn't enough for national leadership - you need an understanding of advanced concepts and a worldly shrewdness she has not displayed.
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What does this mean? I like my grandma 'as a person' but I know her common sense just isn't enough for national leadership - you need an understanding of advanced concepts and a worldly shrewdness she has not displayed.
I guarantee 10000000000% your Grandmother has more sense thatn Biden and Obama.
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I guarantee 10000000000% your Grandmother has more sense thatn Biden and Obama.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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LOL! Um, she was one state shy of winning the dem nomination.
Which state might that be? Obama won 29 states.
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I voted for McCain and I would do so again regardless of who ran for the dems-- But I could have lived with Hillary. 1000x the experience, respect from the international community, Bill Clinton acting as de facto prez--- It would have been a much more moderate, competant and less polarizing presidency.
Oddly enough, I agree with this. It's strange to me because I thought Hillary was too liberal and was too polarizing to get elected. I thought she would be terrible. Talk about being mistaken. :-\
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I voted for McCain for the following reasons:
1. SC Picks
2. Check on the Congress
3. I like Sarah the person.
4. I knew for all his faults, McCain was not a committed communist dead set on collapsing the natiion.
So far, my rationale has nbeen mostly spot on accurate, regardless of how you feel about Mama Grizzly.
SC picks of obama are a joke, pelosi/reid are a partnership from hell, and Obama is proving every day he does not give a damn about this nation.
No. 1 reason I voted for McCain was he was head and shoulders better qualified to be CIC, with two ongoing wars.
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Which state might that be? Obama won 29 states.
Oh. I didn't know every state had the same number of delegates. Hmmm
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Good. Obama is an enemy of the state and clear and present danger to all taxpayers and law abiding citizens.
So is Hillary and Bush.
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True. I still cant stand the site of GWB, despite the fact that I voted for him 2x. When he called people pissed off about his malfeasance on the border "vigilantes", I wanted to go vigilante on his stupid ass myself.
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Oh. I didn't know every state had the same number of delegates. Hmmm
lol. Dude you just make it up as you go along. You said Hillary was one state short of winning the primary. Which state?
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lol. Dude you just make it up as you go along. You said Hillary was one state short of winning the primary. Which state?
Hilary takes all of cali and she has 2118 and wins. She was 333 shy of winning, and Cali was 370. It really was that close.
Plus at the end, Obama had the media saying 24/7 "He's already won... why won't hilary give up". It was decided long before it was technically decided.
I think you're taking offense - you really believed it was the MAJORITY of states that mattered, didn't you? Why else would you bring up 29 states - when most of them split their delegates anyway ???
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lol. Dude you just make it up as you go along. You said Hillary was one state short of winning the primary. Which state?
Beach, I have been watching some of the old dem debates of the primaries between Hill and Bam Bam. She was robbed as the media let him get away with lies upon lies upon lies and kneepadded him all the waty to super tuesday.
Hillary, believe it or not, ran a more honest campaign and was hampered by that. By the time BJ spoke out about Obama's lies it was too late.
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Hilary takes all of cali and she has 2118 and wins. She was 333 shy of winning, and Cali was 370. It really was that close.
Plus at the end, Obama had the media saying 24/7 "He's already won... why won't hilary give up". It was decided long before it was technically decided.
I think you're taking offense - you really believed it was the MAJORITY of states that mattered, didn't you? Why else would you bring up 29 states - when most of them split their delegates anyway ???
BB, youre wrong on this one "dude".
LOL! Dang dude. Hillary won California. http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#CA
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Most of the states split their delegates. yes, obama 'won' 29 states, but those delegates were all split up.
hilary knew if something - ANYTHING - could stick to obama in those last 10 normally meaningless contests, she would be able to steal the election.
hell, the pledged delegates were only 127 delegates apart at the END, and we all know the superdelegates can shift if they are convinced.
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LOL! Dang dude. Hillary won California. http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#CA
She won 204 in cali, but he got 166 of them. If she take all of them, she wins.
Why bring up 29 states, BB? ;)
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LOL @ at the loooooooooooong quiet now, as you frantically look at 2008 WIKI delegates rules :)
No worries man... we'll learn about this all over in 2012 when palin and pawlenty and friends tear each other up for 4 months.
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She won 204 in cali, but he got 166 of them. If she take all of them, she wins.
Why bring up 29 states, BB? ;)
I brought up 29 states because you said she was one state away from winning.
Why did you say this?
Hilary takes all of cali and she has 2118 and wins. She was 333 shy of winning, and Cali was 370. It really was that close.
lol . . . Like I said, you just make it up as you go along. :)
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LOL @ at the loooooooooooong quiet now, as you frantically look at 2008 WIKI delegates rules :)
Why would I do that when I posted the CNN primary results to help educate you. This one will sting a little, but you'll get over it. lol . . .
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If hilary had cleaned house in Cali, she is the dem nominee. it's that simple. it was really that close in 2008.
So yes, she was 1 state away from winning. 166 delegate votes kept her from being president. Cali goes her way all the way, she wins.
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Dear Leader won many of the primaries early on but lost more and more as time went on and people realized the hoax he was. Hillary got momentum too late,
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If hilary had cleaned house in Cali, she is the dem nominee. it's that simple. it was really that close in 2008.
So yes, she was 1 state away from winning. 166 delegate votes kept her from being president. Cali goes her way all the way, she wins.
I see. If gets 100 percent of the delegates in California she wins. Yes, very realistic. ::)
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Dear Leader won many of the primaries early on but lost more and more as time went on and people realized the hoax he was. Hillary got momentum too late,
He was a wounded a bit after his God and guns comments, etc., but at the end of the day, cash was king.