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looks in great shape.... but no longer fighter worthy of pro fight................... ..
even his "fresh" punches are slow.................... ...why not try a take down when you WERE NEVER a stand up fighter.
This video makes me sad
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The first reason he won't stop fighting is because he doesn't know of anything else to do. The second reason he can't stop fighting is because he's broke.
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The first reason he won't stop fighting is because he doesn't know of anything else to do. The second reason he can't stop fighting is because he's broke.
he should be getting some income from his lion's den gyms......... should...
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Baby boomers refuse to accept aging, the whole generation thinks there immortal ::)
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Its hard to give up the ego and the cash.
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Seemed like 3 minutes passed before he pulled of the high leg kick.
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the spotlight is hard to give up
btw, don't forget- ken beat bas rutten TWICE.....TWICE!!!!
and btw, those fights were not "works" as alot of fights in PANCRASE were works
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what a pussy ass way to go down =(
oh the might have fallen.
he looked sooo worn down in the pre fight interviews sad really
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When you're 46, how much can you expect?
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When you're 46, how much can you expect?
randy couture is still many years from embarrassing himself at least,
he verbally tap(ed)
from a LEGKICK!!!!!!!!!!!!
going from the toughest man alive to that..
Im sure it fucking HURT but my god he had to have taken a shitload worse hits then that, lay down and just cover up or something and let the ref stop it
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randy couture is still many years from embarrassing himself at least,
he verbally tap(ed)
from a LEGKICK!!!!!!!!!!!!
going from the toughest man alive to that..
Im sure it fucking HURT but my god he had to have taken a shitload worse hits then that, lay down and just cover up or something and let the ref stop it
It doesn't help that he is comming back from a yr suspension for doing roids - probably legit clean.
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It doesn't help that he is comming back from a yr suspension for doing roids - probably legit clean.
Guess why he made a comback?
"UFC Hall-of-Famer Ken Shamrock came up short in a bid to sue his former employer for not allowing him to complete the second and final fight of his UFC contract.
And now the courts are making him reimburse Zuffa for $175,000 spent in legal fees."
cant find the most recent one, I think its over a million now..
or maby it was just thought, I Think ive read a million somewhere, maby not
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Didn't he literally just announce he's gonna retire at the last Fedor event?
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Didn't he literally just announce he's gonna retire at the last Fedor event?
wrong shamrock.
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looks in great shape.... but no longer fighter worthy of pro fight................... ..
even his "fresh" punches are slow.................... ...why not try a take down when you WERE NEVER a stand up fighter.
This video makes me sad
i bet he could beat canseco.
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i bet he could beat canseco.
I bet our very own McPenisSucker would whip his ass. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Why can't Shamrock stop fighting? I don't know...........you should ask fat keith why he can't stop eating? ::) :-\
I think it's because like Shamrock his life is so empty and unfulfilled he just can't put down the donuts and pizza.
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I bet our very own McPenisSucker would whip his ass. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
you mean swede.
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Pedro Rizzo and Marco Ruas, do you know why they have such strong kick?
Kicking coconut trees in Rio de Janeiro.
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Pedro Rizzo and Marco Ruas, do you know why they have such strong kick?
Kicking coconut trees in Rio de Janeiro.
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all that coconut water going to waste.
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I bet our very own McPenisSucker would whip his ass. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Keith would you take a fight with Canseco for charity if you were given 1 year to get into some kind of fighting shape?
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all that coconut water going to waste.
Brasil vai lançar um foguete, Cuba tambem vai lançar.
Brasil vai lançar um foguete, Cuba tambem vai lançar.
Cuba lança, Cuba lança, quero ver Cuba lançar.
Sing this to your friend.
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randy couture is still many years from embarrassing himself at least,
he verbally tap(ed)
from a LEGKICK!!!!!!!!!!!!
going from the toughest man alive to that..
Im sure it fucking HURT but my god he had to have taken a shitload worse hits then that, lay down and just cover up or something and let the ref stop it
Not sure if you have ever been in the ring (in any discipline Kickboxing muay- thai etc) but trust me, if you do-not know how to "check" a Thigh kick (inside or outside) when a guy as powerful and fast (with his kicks) as that bloke puts his SHIN with most his body weight into your muscle over and over like that....trust me your whole leg goes completely numb the whole side of you leg gets momentarily paralyzed, the problem with wat happened to Ken in that fight wasn't is age as such was more the fact he DID NOT check even ONE of those Powerful fast Muay-thai Thigh kicks, if Ken was 15yrs younger it would of made no difference he would of STILL went down IF he didnt Check those Powerful Hard kicks.
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Not sure if you have ever been in the ring (in any discipline Kickboxing muay- thai etc) but trust me, if you do-not know how to "check" a Thigh kick (inside or outside) when a guy as powerful and fast (with his kicks) as that bloke puts his SHIN with most his body weight into your muscle over and over like that....trust me your whole leg goes completely numb the whole side of you leg gets momentarily paralyzed, the problem with wat happened to Ken in that fight wasn't is age as such was more the fact he DID NOT check even ONE of those Powerful fast Muay-thai Thigh kicks, if Ken was 15yrs younger it would of made no difference he would of STILL went down IF he didnt Check those Powerful Hard kicks.
Im not talking about going down..
He verbally Tapped... He Gave Up before he was "done".. thats my issue. I know they hurt like fuck.
Ken shamrock doesn't have the heart in this anymore. just for a well needed paycheck
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Brasil vai lançar um foguete, Cuba tambem vai lançar.
Brasil vai lançar um foguete, Cuba tambem vai lançar.
Cuba lança, Cuba lança, quero ver Cuba lançar.
Sing this to your friend.
Vai, vem, vai, vai, vem princesa
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hmmmmmm...............wh y would a punchy, way-past-prime fighter still be stepping into the right
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anyone...
(http://cache2.artprintimages.com/p/LRG/8/881/HSYJ000Z/money.jpg)
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i bet he could beat canseco.
X2, but Bonaduce would give him a helluva fight...That's one that I would pay good money to watch.
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Keith would you take a fight with Canseco for charity if you were given 1 year to get into some kind of fighting shape?
yea if the charity was me
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Its hard to give up the ego and the cash when you don't have anything else to fall back on.
FTFY
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Im not talking about going down..
He verbally Tapped... He Gave Up before he was "done".. thats my issue. I know they hurt like fuck.
Ken shamrock doesn't have the heart in this anymore. just for a well needed paycheck
Your probably hit the nail there about Kens heart not Really there anymore ive got no doubt he STILL has that stubborn PRIDE that never really leaves you, however someone as experienced as Ken should of known better than to try the stand-up angle against a Huge renowned Thigh kicker with that much power and speed without even trying to Shoot for a Take-down...why he didn't stick to what he always done best only he knows.
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I just have to say that in the years of reading and posting on this forum, I am suprised at all the muscleheads on here who have become "Dave Meltzer"-like in their knowledge of MMA
unbelievable ::)
You MMA noobs make me sick
*waits for someone to post how they aren't a "MMA noob" and discuss how they own every ZST dvd*
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I can tell you why Ken didn't take Pedro down, probably because Ken knows he couldn't. Jeff Monson, Randy Couture, and Josh Barnett had problems putting Pedro on his ass and they are all superior grapplers to Ken.
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^ Mayby... although i think Ken would of known he had a better chance of shooting for a take-down than standing there trying to trade, ether way he threw the dice and came up short.
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^ Mayby... although i think Ken would of known he had a better chance of shooting for a take-down than standing there trying to trade, ether way he threw the dice and came up short.
When push comes to shove Kenny just needs to bow out now while he still has a few marbles left.
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When push comes to shove Kenny just needs to bow out now while he still has a few marbles left.
Absolutely.
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Ken helped put mixed martial arts on the map. Great fighter. But his muscle mass and speed are way down compared to the Ken of the mid/late 90's
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pic of Ken getting smashed at the fight.
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I just have to say that in the years of reading and posting on this forum, I am suprised at all the muscleheads on here who have become "Dave Meltzer"-like in their knowledge of MMA
unbelievable ::)
You MMA noobs make me sick
*waits for someone to post how they aren't a "MMA noob" and discuss how they own every ZST dvd*
HaHaha....Johnny owning all of the tiny tits who are now know-it-alls.
Three years ago these penii were watching wrestling and thought it was real HaHahahaHaHa
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I will probably get hammered for saying this but its ok.
The Gracie's they don't tap out.
See Royler vs Saku, Royce vs Hughes.
Even Fedor tap out. I'm not hating.
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I will probably get hammered for saying this but its ok.
The Gracie's they don't tap out.
See Royler vs Saku, Royce vs Hughes.
Even Fedor tap out. I'm not hating.
Yeah but the Gracie's did try to request a "special set of rules" with the sole reason to benefit Royce which is probably about a 100 times more pathetic......and quit after the Kimo fight ...and threw in the towel during the Sakuraba fight so you might want to get off your little brazilian soapbox.
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Yeah but the Gracie's did try to request a "special set of rules" with the sole reason to benefit Royce which is probably about a 100 times more pathetic......and quit after the Kimo fight ...and threw in the towel during the Sakuraba fight so you might want to get off your little brazilian soapbox.
my point was that the Gracie's don't tap.
Please post a video of any Gracie
taping out.
How many fights Royce had before kimo?
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That's a brutal amount of hate there Hoyce.
No man, im not hating at all.
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my point was that the Gracie's don't tap.
Please post a video of any Gracie
taping out.
How many fights Royce had before kimo?
Regardless, when it's all said and done the history books will say Royce Gracie lost via TKO to this man. 8)
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my point was that the Gracie's don't tap.
Please post a video of any Gracie
taping out.
How many fights Royce had before kimo?
Yes..they quit when they know they can't win, which is even more of a pussy move :D
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Yes..they quit when they know they can't win, which is even more of a pussy move :D
They should be macho like you. Right?
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They should be macho like you. Right?
I'm not a fighter....although i can beat up most people easily if I wanted to.
Point is quitting is a bitch move, tapping out is part of the game.
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They should be macho like you. Right?
If that turns out to be Fedor's last fight he loses his last one by tapping out BUT
Royce Gracie's last fight ended up with him testing positive for anabolic steroids.
ADVANTAGE = Fedor
Truth hurts, don't it?
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I just have to say that in the years of reading and posting on this forum, I am suprised at all the muscleheads on here who have become "Dave Meltzer"-like in their knowledge of MMA
unbelievable ::)
You MMA noobs make me sick
*waits for someone to post how they aren't a "MMA noob" and discuss how they own every ZST dvd*
Swede will not like this
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I'm not a fighter....although i can beat up most people easily if I wanted to.
Point is quitting is a bitch move, tapping out is part of the game.
Tapping out its not a part of the game for the Gracie's.
And quitting you're probably referring to the fight against Kimo. right?
Quitting, pussy whatever you want to call it. do you have a video of any Gracie tapping out?
Wow!!! you can beat up people easily too. wow!!! just wow!!!
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Tapping out its not a part of the game for the Gracie's.
And quitting you're probably referring to the fight against Kimo. right?
Quitting, pussy whatever you want to call it. do you have a video of any Gracie tapping out?
Wow!!! you can beat up people easily too. wow!!! just wow!!!
LOLOL....take it easy holmes...just playing.
you're obviously a big fan of the Gracies, but they aren't above and beyond the rest.
Fanboys are funny, they take shit so personal ;D
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If that turns out to be Fedor's last fight he loses his last one by tapping out BUT
Royce Gracie's last fight ended up with him testing positive for anabolic steroids.
ADVANTAGE = Fedor
Truth hurts, don't it?
Just because Fedor wasn't caught, that does not meant he does not use it.
I'm not trying to throw mud on Fedor's image. just saying since everybody use something.
Gracie's never tapp out.
Fedor did it.
Advantage = The Gracie's
Now... this hurt even more. don't you think?
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Tapping out its not a part of the game for the Gracie's.
And quitting you're probably referring to the fight against Kimo. right?
Quitting, pussy whatever you want to call it. do you have a video of any Gracie tapping out?
Wow!!! you can beat up people easily too. wow!!! just wow!!!
No, their "game" was beating up construction workers in the early 90's with little to no grappling skills and then once the sport finally caught up with them 3 years later they all conveniently retire or begin to have very average records to mediocre fighters.
The "Gracies".... give me a fucking break, they haven't been relevant in almost 2 decades!!
You will never see another Gracie on top, their whole legacy is beating up on plumbers over a two year period.
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LOLOL....take it easy holmes...just playing.
you're obviously a big fan of the Gracies, but they aren't above and beyond the rest.
Fanboys are funny, they take shit so personal ;D
No Groink. I'm not taking personal.just telling the truth.
Please don't get me wrong.
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No, their "game" was beating up construction workers in the early 90's with little to no grappling skills and then once the sport finally caught up with them 3 years later they all conveniently retire or begin to have very average records to mediocre fighters.
The "Gracies".... give me a fucking break, they haven't been relevant in almost 2 decades!!
You will never see another Gracie on top, their whole legacy is beating up on plumbers over a two year period.
Please don't change the point.
Do you have a video,picture or audio of any Gracie tapping out?
And by the way when you see a guy submitting another fighter using BJJ... yes still the Gracie name.
You might want to check this guy Fabricio Werdum. have you ever heard about him? lol
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No, their "game" was beating up construction workers in the early 90's with little to no grappling skills and then once the sport finally caught up with them 3 years later they all conveniently retire or begin to have very average records to mediocre fighters.
The "Gracies".... give me a fucking break, they haven't been relevant in almost 2 decades!!
You will never see another Gracie on top, their whole legacy is beating up on plumbers over a two year period.
What he said
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Please don't change the point.
Do you have a video,picture or audio of any Gracie tapping out?
And by the way when you see a guy submitting another fighter using BJJ... yes still the Gracie name.
You might want to check this guy Fabricio Werdum. have you ever heard about him? lol
Okay since Royce and Rickson decided to go ahead retire to save them from getting their teeth kicked in on a regular basis, and since Royce has such a tiny resume against decent opposition besides Matt Hughes and Sakuraba, NO I don't have footage of them tapping out so yeah you got me there, I suppose.
HOWEVER, nobody from my memory has quit (Sakuraba, after Kimo fight) lied (Rickson and his bullshit 500 and 0 record or whatever he was claiming) cheated (Royce and his failed steroid test) and manipulated the rules to benefit them (16 Man Pride Grand Prix) more than the Gracie clan.
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Is Werdum part of the Gracie family?
The Gracie BJJ family.
Here is a variation of what Fabricio did to Fedor. triangulo de mao."Anaconda choke" pretty cool.
Just a little bit of tension... booommmmmmmmm look at Wanderlei's head and face.
Now imagine if you put all your strength.
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Okay since Royce and Rickson decided to go ahead retire to save them from getting their teeth kicked in on a regular basis, and since Royce has such a tiny resume against decent opposition besides Matt Hughes and Sakuraba, NO I don't have footage of them tapping out so yeah you got me there, I suppose.
HOWEVER, nobody from my memory has quit (Sakuraba, after Kimo fight) lied (Rickson and his bullshit 500 and 0 record or whatever he was claiming) cheated (Royce and his failed steroid test) and manipulated the rules to benefit them (16 Man Pride Grand Prix) more than the Gracie clan.
My point was and still.
The Gracie's don't tap out, none of then.
BTW... Royce was caught using Deca. the only thing Deca does to you is lubricate your joints.
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My point was and still.
The Gracie's don't tap out, none of then.
Okay...you have made your point, while ignoring the LARGER point....they quit.
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Okay...you have made your point, while ignoring the LARGER point....they quit.
I'm here just to prove my point and talk about the tap out situation, screwed the rest.
Serious now. quitting against who?
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I'm here just to prove my point and talk about the tap out situation, screwed the rest.
Serious now. quitting against who?
Fuck if i know....I'm going by what polysaccharides said.
I don't follow that stuff. My brother used to get those fucking tapes over 15 years ago and try and make me watch them, with Tank Abbot and those dudes
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Serious now. quitting against who?
Sakuraba made a Gracie quit in their own manipulative rules they forced upon Pride like a bunch of gangsters.
Royce Gracie also quit against this man, I mean the dude doesn't even have all his teeth and he has a fucking mullet...I seriously don't know which one is more pathetic out of the two....
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Sakuraba made a Gracie quit in their own manipulative rules they forced upon Pride like a bunch of gangsters.
Royce Gracie also quit against this man, I mean the dude doesn't even have all his teeth and he has a fucking mullet...I seriously don't know which one is more pathetic out of the two....
Do you have anything to back up theory/gossip or whatever you might have it?
Does the "quit" occurred in the ring?
Oh yeah!!! he didn't fight Harold because of this.
What would you do? Royce was a 3 time UFC champion already at the time. why risk?
Follow us Groink.
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My point was and still.
The Gracie's don't tap out, none of then.
BTW... Royce was caught using Deca. the only thing Deca does to you is lubricate your joints.
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Do you have anything to back up theory/gossip or whatever you might have it?
And the "quit" occurred in the ring?
Follow us Groink.
Sure, look it up on wikipedia, it's clear as day. I will spare you from cut and pasting the whole Royce Gracie page but here are some excerpts proving my point.
2000-05-01 Loss 12–2–1 Japan Kazushi Sakuraba PRIDE Grand Prix 2000 Finals TKO (Corner Stoppage) Round 6, 15:00
"Royce advanced to the quarterfinals by beating Sakuraba's stablemate Nobuhiko Takada, before finding himself matched up with Sakuraba. Gracie and Sakuraba battled for an hour and a half. Early in the fight, Sakuraba nearly ended things with a knee-bar towards the end of the first round. Later on, Gracie applied a guillotine choke at the end of round 2 which Sakuraba eventually escaped due of the bell ending the round. As the confrontation stretched on, Sakuraba's wrestling skills and balance nullified Royce's ability to score a takedown. After the 90 minute battle, punishing leg kicks showed their effects. Royce's brother, with Royce's full acknowledgement, threw in the towel during the intermission. Gracie had suffered a broken foot from accumulated damage. After the match, Gracie and Sakuraba embraced in the ring. Gracious in victory, Sakuraba pointed to Gracie as the superior ground-technician when questioned as to why he didn't engage him on the ground more frequently. Sakuraba would go on to defeat other members of the Gracie family including Renzo Gracie and Ryan Gracie earning him the nickname "Gracie Hunter."[5]"
1994-09-09 Loss 8–1 Canada Harold Howard UFC 3: The American Dream TKO (Towel Thrown Before Start of Match)
Let us not forget the time he choked out Ken Shamrock USING HIS GI AS STRANGULATION DEVICE while Ken Shamrock was barred from using his wrestling shoes. God forbid the Gracies ever fought a match where the rules weren't stacked to benefit their particular form of martial arts.....
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My point was and still.
The Gracie's don't tap out, none of then.
BTW... Royce was caught using Deca. the only thing Deca does to you is lubricate your joints.
Holy crap i missed that....dude i can't even talk to you after that ;D
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Sure, look it up on wikipedia, clear as day, i will spare you from cut and pasting the whole Royce Gracie page but here are some excerpts proving my point.
2000-05-01 Loss 12–2–1 Japan Kazushi Sakuraba PRIDE Grand Prix 2000 Finals TKO (Corner Stoppage) Round 6, 15:00
Royce advanced to the quarterfinals by beating Sakuraba's stablemate Nobuhiko Takada, before finding himself matched up with Sakuraba. Gracie and Sakuraba battled for an hour and a half. Early in the fight, Sakuraba nearly ended things with a knee-bar towards the end of the first round. Later on, Gracie applied a guillotine choke at the end of round 2 which Sakuraba eventually escaped due of the bell ending the round. As the confrontation stretched on, Sakuraba's wrestling skills and balance nullified Royce's ability to score a takedown. After the 90 minute battle, punishing leg kicks showed their effects. Royce's brother, with Royce's full acknowledgement, threw in the towel during the intermission. Gracie had suffered a broken foot from accumulated damage. After the match, Gracie and Sakuraba embraced in the ring. Gracious in victory, Sakuraba pointed to Gracie as the superior ground-technician when questioned as to why he didn't engage him on the ground more frequently. Sakuraba would go on to defeat other members of the Gracie family including Renzo Gracie and Ryan Gracie earning him the nickname "Gracie Hunter."[5]
1994-09-09 Loss 8–1 Canada Harold Howard UFC 3: The American Dream TKO (Towel Thrown Before Start of Match)
Let us not forget the time he choked out Ken Shamrock USING HIS GI AS STRANGULATION DEVICE while Ken Shamrock was barred from using his wrestling shoes. God forbid the Gracies ever fought a match where the rules weren't stacked to benefit their particular form of martial arts.....
Oh yeah!! you just forgot to highlighted that Royce was fighting with a broken foot after a 90 minute.
Rules to benefit Royce? in the beginning of UFC , fighters were aloud to headbutt inside the guard.
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Am I wrong?
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Am I wrong?
No you are right, but you kinda left out the fact that it also makes a lot you bigger and stronger
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Rules to benefit Royce? in the beginning of UFC , fighters were aloud to headbutt inside the guard.
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"In the semi-finals, Gracie fought Ken Shamrock, who showed excellent grappling skills in his first-round submission win over Patrick Smith. Gracie immediately rushed Shamrock, who sprawled effectively and got on top of Gracie. Shamrock then grabbed Gracie's ankle and sat back to attempt the same finishing hold he used to finish his first match, but Gracie rolled on top of him and secured a rear choke that forced Shamrock to tap the mat in submission. Shamrock later stated that Gracie used his gi suit as a tool for ligature strangulation to perform the submission, protesting the fact that he was not allowed to wear his wrestling shoes because the event organisers had stated that it could be used as a weapon"
The Gracie family practically WERE the event organizers at that particular point in time....
""Businessman Art Davie met Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu pioneer Rorion Gracie in 1991 while researching martial arts for a marketing client. Gracie operated a Brazilian jiu-jitsu school in Torrance, California and the Gracie family had a long history of vale tudo matches - a precursor of modern mixed martial arts - in Brazil. Davie became Gracie's student."
"In 1992, inspired by the Gracies in Action video-series produced by the Gracies and featuring Gracie jiu-jitsu defeating various martial-arts masters, Davie proposed to Rorion Gracie and John Milius an eight-man, single-elimination tournament with a title of War of the Worlds. The tournament would feature martial artists from different disciplines facing each other in no-holds-barred combat to determine the best martial art and would aim to replicate the excitement of the matches Davie had seen on the videos.""
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No you are right, but you kinda left out the fact that it also makes a lot you bigger and stronger
no groink ken just wanted to " lube up the old joints"
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No you are right, but you kinda left out the fact that it also makes a lot you bigger and stronger
Royce was huge and strong against Hughes. right?
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Royce was huge and strong against Hughes. right?
royce is a small,small man, no amount of drugs can compensate for his shit genetics , much like severedmantestes
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"In the semi-finals, Gracie fought Ken Shamrock, who showed excellent grappling skills in his first-round submission win over Patrick Smith. Gracie immediately rushed Shamrock, who sprawled effectively and got on top of Gracie. Shamrock then grabbed Gracie's ankle and sat back to attempt the same finishing hold he used to finish his first match, but Gracie rolled on top of him and secured a rear choke that forced Shamrock to tap the mat in submission. Shamrock later stated that Gracie used his gi suit as a tool for ligature strangulation to perform the submission, protesting the fact that he was not allowed to wear his wrestling shoes because the event organisers had stated that it could be used as a weapon"
The Gracie family practically WERE the event organizers at that particular point in time....
""Businessman Art Davie met Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu pioneer Rorion Gracie in 1991 while researching martial arts for a marketing client. Gracie operated a Brazilian jiu-jitsu school in Torrance, California and the Gracie family had a long history of vale tudo matches - a precursor of modern mixed martial arts - in Brazil. Davie became Gracie's student."
"In 1992, inspired by the Gracies in Action video-series produced by the Gracies and featuring Gracie jiu-jitsu defeating various martial-arts masters, Davie proposed to Rorion Gracie and John Milius an eight-man, single-elimination tournament with a title of War of the Worlds. The tournament would feature martial artists from different disciplines facing each other in no-holds-barred combat to determine the best martial art and would aim to replicate the excitement of the matches Davie had seen on the videos.""
Oh yeah!! you just forgot to highlighted that Royce was fighting with a broken foot after a 90 minute.
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Royce was huge and strong against Hughes. right?
he took it, plain and simple.
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Oh yeah!! you just forgot to highlighted that Royce was fighting with a broken foot after a 90 minute.
Yes, I conveniently left that small point out...I am not denying that. 8)
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royce is a small,small man, no amount of drugs can compensate for his shit genetics , much like severedmantestes
Is he a power lifter or bodybuilder?
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Yes, I conveniently left that small point out...I am not denying that. 8)
Ok. c'mon he's not a superman.
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Is he a power lifter or bodybuilder?
hes a failure that cant even use drugs right
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no groink ken just wanted to " lube up the old joints"
That really looks like just deca or deca and primo, right?
And with all that juice he taped like a bitch.
Once again the Gracie's don't tap out.
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hes a failure that cant even use drugs right
ROFL!!! ;D
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That really looks like just deca or deca and primo, right?
and test yes prolly 1-2 grams total combined all three drugs , check with gh15 just to make sure ;)
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and test yes prolly 1-2 grams total combined all three drugs , check with gh15 just to make sure ;)
1 or 2 grams a day 3 to 4 times a week. more like that.
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1 or 2 grams a day 3 to 4 times a week. more like that.
that alot compared to royces simple 2/1 test deca split
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My point was and still.
The Gracie's don't tap out, none of then.
BTW... Royce was caught using Deca. the only thing Deca does to you is lubricate your joints.
I don't believe Royce use Deca. There have been sups on the market that make you test positive for nandrolone. Dennis Hallman, when testing positive for steroids did admit that he used anabolics. Of course, he made up some story as to why he "had" to use it and his doctor prescribed him with masteron. Of course, that's nonsense and no American doctor would prescribe masteron because it's just not available in the US. And it's not prescribe for injuries. But the point is that he did admit to using steroids but was very adamant that he never used deca even though he also tested positive for nandrolone.
Royce has top notch trainers that are very familiar with anabolics but even the average Joe knows that the one steroid to avoid in tested events is nandrolone because of it's long half life.
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Royce has zero striking skills. He could never be competitive in todays MMA fights. He is a legend and we own him respect. Without him no one in the US would know any real ground game except ground and pound. Remember when his brother Rorian bought him to th US? No one except guys like Shamrock were using arm bars, triangles, or leg locks. No one was using the guard. Royce let the family secrets out of the bag.
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You will never see another Gracie on top, their whole legacy is beating up on plumbers over a two year period.
lol.....classic