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Title: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 28, 2010, 08:03:29 PM
Is Derek Farnsworth the strongest pound for pound squater of all time? Someone told me he did close to 900 pounds at a weight well under 200 pounds.
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth
Post by: kiwiol on July 28, 2010, 08:17:20 PM
Derek Anthony is not that strong, but he holds a record himself - he has squatted down in front of every single man he's come across in the Blue Oyster bar.
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth
Post by: ThaRealist on July 28, 2010, 08:28:52 PM
Derek Anthony is not that strong, but he holds a record himself - he has squatted down in front of every single man he's come across in the Blue Oyster bar.

BOOM!!!
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth
Post by: jude2 on July 28, 2010, 08:29:55 PM
Derek F has some of the strongest legs around for his size. Could never get his upper body to match.
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: Ron on July 28, 2010, 09:48:28 PM

Very strong competitor for his size, but being a Lightweight does not give him a great advantage in the pro's against much heavier, bigger and more muscular competitors.   
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: Sir Bigness on July 28, 2010, 09:51:35 PM
I saw some videos of DF squating!! Crazy!!  :o :o
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 28, 2010, 09:52:30 PM
BOOM!!!

KA-BOOM!!!
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: BB on July 28, 2010, 10:35:30 PM
In Powerlifting, the greatest pound for pound squat I can think of, is Inaba of Japan. 535 @ 114lbs.

I don't believe 900 for a full squat from Farnsworth.
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: jon cole on July 28, 2010, 10:51:40 PM
a full squat of 900lbs by farnsworth, not even in dream.
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: claymore on July 28, 2010, 11:25:45 PM
a full squat of 900lbs by farnsworth, not even in dream.

Agreed
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: Krankenstein on July 29, 2010, 04:30:37 PM
Remember...he's natural
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: BIG_STI on July 29, 2010, 04:56:54 PM
Doesn't he claim to be natural too?
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: Parker on July 29, 2010, 05:26:49 PM
a full squat of 900lbs by farnsworth, not even in dream.
800 full squat is on vid, it was posted on here a few yrs back. Remember dude is 4'11. 
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: The Showstoppa on July 29, 2010, 05:28:40 PM
Can he dunk?
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: Parker on July 29, 2010, 05:33:53 PM
Can he dunk?
If the basket was set at his height. But, he has a hot wife...so he beat the buzzer on that one.
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: Mr. Magoo on July 29, 2010, 05:56:15 PM
Doesn't he claim to be natural too?

yep
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: BB on July 29, 2010, 07:29:55 PM
Tomfoolery, it is afoot......

Squats-

Men's Raw(belt, no knee wraps)-

198 688 Tony Fratto USA 1974 AAU* .

Mens Raw(with Wraps)-

198 749 Tony Fratto USA 1972 AAU*


Drug Tested(with or without knee wraps)-

198 655 David Ricks USA 2010 RUPC

The best raw totals in the #198 class are low #1800's spread across 3 lifts. Assuming he could pull and push a decent number, he'd be top 3 at most meets in the country. Does anyone believe that?
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: jude2 on September 28, 2010, 09:16:59 PM
I take it that Derek won the pound for pound powerlifting contest at the O. I saw a pic of him and Pete with Derek holding his award. Does anybody know his lifts and other results?
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: JimmyJam1974 on September 28, 2010, 09:20:25 PM
Very strong competitor for his size, but being a Lightweight does not give him a great advantage in the pro's against much heavier, bigger and more muscular competitors.   

Ron, would you say his chemical cocktail is not nearly strong enough?
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: Chick on September 29, 2010, 05:26:31 AM
Derek won the pound 4 pound challenge at the Olympia....he squated 405 for 20

I'll have to look up the rest of the lifts...quite impressive
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: dyslexic on September 29, 2010, 05:46:01 AM
How bout some pics of the little sumbitch?
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on September 29, 2010, 06:01:18 AM
Derek won the pound 4 pound challenge at the Olympia....he squated 405 for 20

I'll have to look up the rest of the lifts...quite impressive
:D

I did 405 x 24 and by no means do I consider it very impressive... wtf ???
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: Chick on September 29, 2010, 06:45:57 AM
:D

I did 405 x 24 and by no means do I consider it very impressive... wtf ???

He weighs 180 lbs.
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: Parker on September 29, 2010, 06:51:52 AM
He weighs 180 lbs.
And is what, 4'11?
Impressive...
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: Chick on September 29, 2010, 06:57:54 AM
And is what, 4'11?
Impressive...

5'2-5'3  180 

One strong MoFo....without question. Pistol Pete wasnt too shabby either....as for Ben Pak, he kicked out 10 reps with 600 lbs, full squat
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: crownshep on September 29, 2010, 08:17:54 AM
Either he`s lost some strength from a year ago,or his training partner here was helping quite a bit.

Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: Tito24 on September 29, 2010, 08:21:42 AM
(http://www.solid-gains.com/gallery/albums/bob-cicherillo/Bob-Cicherillo-29_sized.jpg)
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: crownshep on September 29, 2010, 08:22:20 AM
He did 25 at the Arnold classic.

Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: Tito24 on September 29, 2010, 08:24:11 AM
thats not arnold
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: BM OUT on September 29, 2010, 08:27:44 AM
Is Derek Farnsworth the strongest pound for pound squater of all time? Someone told me he did close to 900 pounds at a weight well under 200 pounds.

Huh?You mean in bodybuilding circles?Shawn Frankl squatted 1060 at 220 and Chuck Vogelpohl squatted 1175 at 275.
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on September 29, 2010, 09:27:01 AM
The whole definition "pound for pound" doesn't even make sense, since regarding strength the bodyweight of the lifter is always taken into consideration. If we are talking about who has squatted most compared to his bodyweight then the strongest squatter in the lightest weightclass will win that title.
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 29, 2010, 05:16:10 PM
Huh?You mean in bodybuilding circles?Shawn Frankl squatted 1060 at 220 and Chuck Vogelpohl squatted 1175 at 275.

I thought I saw claims of 900 pounds at a bodyweight of 180-185.
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: jude2 on September 29, 2010, 06:10:25 PM
I thought I saw claims of 900 pounds at a bodyweight of 180-185.
You are correct.
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: MAXX on September 29, 2010, 06:18:52 PM
big deal. Platz did 500 for 23 ass to heels.

Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: Chick on September 29, 2010, 06:25:05 PM
big deal. Platz did 500 for 23 ass to heels.



Impressive to say the least, but Derek is 5 ft nothing and 180 lbs....

BTW...check out Kaz and Jim Quinn in the background of the Platz video...
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: MAXX on September 29, 2010, 06:26:04 PM
Marunde not too shabby either.



He died by a heart attack doing this sorta workout too right?
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: Chick on September 29, 2010, 06:33:52 PM
Marunde not too shabby either.



He died by a heart attack doing this sorta workout too right?

Jesse was a personal friend of mine, it was shocking news when he passed.  Only thing I can say was he died doing what he loved most...
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth
Post by: FREAKgeek on September 29, 2010, 06:39:13 PM
Derek Anthony is not that strong, but he holds a record himself - he has squatted down in front of every single man he's come across in the Blue Oyster bar.

he went for repetitions
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: FREAKgeek on September 29, 2010, 06:46:23 PM
ken leistner did 415 for 23 reps at 165lbs.
video is on the net somewhere
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: caseyviator on September 30, 2010, 07:00:03 AM
eddie coan 959lbs at 198  along with an 859 dl at 198...same sr national meet - real judging and drug tested..
strongest of all time, undisputed
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: FREAKgeek on September 30, 2010, 08:21:17 AM
Kevin Tolbert, ken leistner's adopted son, supposedly did 600 X 30.
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: BM OUT on September 30, 2010, 11:14:39 AM
eddie coan 959lbs at 198  along with an 859 dl at 198...same sr national meet - real judging and drug tested..
strongest of all time, undisputed

He wasnt drug tested at the USPF seniors and he did fail three drug tests in his career.However,he is BY FAR the strongest 198 ever and 220 ever.I guarantee Farnsworth could not,under any circumstances,squat 900 at 198lbs to any kind of depth.
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: Rearden Metal on September 30, 2010, 11:33:22 AM
Very strong competitor for his size, but being a Lightweight does not give him a great advantage in the pro's against much heavier, bigger and more muscular competitors.   

LOL.

Also breaking news: Albert Pujols hits baseballs farther than regular people, giving him the advantage as a baseball player.
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: NeoSeminole on September 30, 2010, 02:32:30 PM
Is Derek Farnsworth the strongest pound for pound squater of all time? Someone told me he did close to 900 pounds at a weight well under 200 pounds.

pound-for-pound means shit in powerlifting. Obviously the smaller guys will win b/c the human body loses efficiency at taller heights and heavier weights
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: caseyviator on September 30, 2010, 04:07:03 PM
He wasnt drug tested at the USPF seniors and he did fail three drug tests in his career.However,he is BY FAR the strongest 198 ever and 220 ever.I guarantee Farnsworth could not,under any circumstances,squat 900 at 198lbs to any kind of depth.

well put it this way at the 1994 uspf senior nats in greensbourgh nc i was in the 242 class he was in the 220s and we all had to pee in a cup everybody...,....so i dunno we always had to pee in a cup back then when i was competion on that level.  i dont know about any other year that i did not lift...   but in 1994  he was literally rite in front of me to go pee.....now who knows if they really tested it or not......thats always been a big debate on who they really tested and who they did not in those days.

Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: Big Lee on September 30, 2010, 04:26:44 PM
Jose raymond did 34 reps with 405 on the RXmuscle website and there is a video of it.
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: Chick on September 30, 2010, 04:58:37 PM
Jose raymond did 34 reps with 405 on the RXmuscle website and there is a video of it.

Yeah, but he';s much heavier than Farnsworth....he competes at 200, I would guess 220-30 off season....he's got 40 lbs on Derek.

Jose would be doing 440-460 if he faced Derek....would be a great matchup
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: Derik_Farnsworth on September 30, 2010, 07:42:38 PM
just to clarify a few things:

1. i never claimed to have squatted or was able to squat 900...  when i was 25 i squatted 765[ weighed like 190]  for a  single and it was videod..  no way could i do 900... just too heavy for my frame.
2. in the competition i opted to go up to 405 to make the event more entertaining.. ive done 405 for 25's and 30's in the past with no problem..  20 reps was enough to put me in the lead .. i had to save some energy for the bench which followed right after.
  the event was to entertain the crowd and give us guys a chance to win some cash..  the first thing  we were told was not to get hurt.   the stage wasnt the most stable area for squatting or deadlifting .. very bouncy so  I def  held back and  big  ben  def had to be cautious squatting 600 lbs.

  i'd love to see jose in the competition  hes an old friend and  we've competed against each other many times  as amatuers.. 
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: WillGrant on September 30, 2010, 07:56:49 PM
As natural as green cock cheese
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: Chick on October 01, 2010, 05:38:54 AM
just to clarify a few things:

1. i never claimed to have squatted or was able to squat 900...  when i was 25 i squatted 765[ weighed like 190]  for a  single and it was videod..  no way could i do 900... just too heavy for my frame.
2. in the competition i opted to go up to 405 to make the event more entertaining.. ive done 405 for 25's and 30's in the past with no problem..  20 reps was enough to put me in the lead .. i had to save some energy for the bench which followed right after.
  the event was to entertain the crowd and give us guys a chance to win some cash..  the first thing  we were told was not to get hurt.   the stage wasnt the most stable area for squatting or deadlifting .. very bouncy so  I def  held back and  big  ben  def had to be cautious squatting 600 lbs.

  i'd love to see jose in the competition  hes an old friend and  we've competed against each other many times  as amatuers.. 

And Congratulations again champ! Well deserved and very entertaining for the Expo audience....

Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: saucetradomous on October 01, 2010, 08:31:55 AM
765 for a single at 190 is impressive.
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: Derik_Farnsworth on October 01, 2010, 08:34:33 AM
thanx Chick,

  had a great time, ben and pete were great,  im glad robin  had u  mc it ..   def made it more fun .. i expected you to bust my balls more  lol..  but you did get a few good ones.. lol
   hopefully they will have it again and more guys will have an interest to actually DO IT .. LOL

Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: Mr. Magoo on October 01, 2010, 08:39:13 AM
thanx Chick,

  had a great time, ben and pete were great,  im glad robin  had u  mc it ..   def made it more fun .. i expected you to bust my balls more  lol..  but you did get a few good ones.. lol
   hopefully they will have it again and more guys will have an interest to actually DO IT .. LOL



In that video of you doing 405 for 30 on youtube, what was it that pushed you over the limit on that vid? it seems you were more motivated in that one clip than in other showings you do. Was it just a good day, did the guy yelling across the gym have anything to do with it, was it someone important giving you motivation, etc?
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: Derik_Farnsworth on October 01, 2010, 08:46:55 AM
In that video of you doing 405 for 30 on youtube, what was it that pushed you over the limit on that vid? it seems you were more motivated in that one clip than in other showings you do. Was it just a good day, did the guy yelling across the gym have anything to do with it, was it someone important giving you motivation, etc?


  well, when that was being shot i was 10 weeks out from europa pro, hmm i think 3 yrs ago.. i was weighing about 173 ..   so my motivation was focused on the show and we just went for it ..take that and the times i squatted in the cage   it was out of my element..  i had been on my feet for 2 days , traveling .    at the event,  the staging had a bounce in it , so seeing as i only had to beat 10 i wasnt going to go  nuts  so i upped the weight from 360 to 405 to enterain the crowd more..  i knew the bench was right after so i saved a bit of energy cuz im not good at bench..
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 01, 2010, 01:03:09 PM
765 for a single at 190 is impressive.

x2
Title: Re: Derek Farnsworth - strongest squater pound for pound?
Post by: Powerlift66 on October 08, 2012, 02:34:17 PM
Kevin Tolbert, ken leistner's adopted son, supposedly did 600 X 30.

Kevin is the strength coach (assistant I think) for the SF 49ers.
Was a beast back in the day.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/GlenMac/KevinTolbert.jpg)