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Title: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Dos Equis on July 30, 2010, 01:21:20 PM
An example of the media infatuation with Palin.  Newt mentions eight possible candidates, but the story title is about Palin.  She's in their heads.   :) 

Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Posted: July 30th, 2010

From CNN's Charles Riley

Washington (CNN) - Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, himself weighing a presidential run in 2012, said Thursday that he expects Sarah Palin to be among the Republican contenders seeking the GOP nomination.

Asked to size up the prospective field during an interview with conservative magazine Newsmax, Gingrich rattled off a list of Republicans he expects to run.

"Well there are going to be lots of Republican running: Gov. Romney clearly, Gov. Palin, Gov. Huckabee, Gov. Mitch Daniels, Gov. Haley Barbour, Gov. Tim Pawlenty. I think John Thune, the senator from South Dakota is going to get in. Ron Paul is probably going to run again. So I think it will be a lively campaign, there will be a lot of good candidates," Gingrich said.

None of the politicians mentioned by Gingrich have announced a run for President, and Gingrich himself said he will announce his decision next year.

"Calista [his wife] and I, along with our family, will make that decision in February or March," Gingrich said. "For the moment, I'm totally focused on trying to help Republicans win the biggest possible election this fall."

Asked if Palin would be a strong candidate for President, Gingrich said she has the potential to be just that.

"I think she is already a very strong personality and has the potential to be a very strong candidate," Gingrich said.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/07/30/gingrich-expect-sarah-palin-for-president-in-2012/?fbid=54YJ106g8kS#more-115700
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 30, 2010, 01:25:05 PM
Everyone knows that unless its Thune or Christie running, the media and everyone else wants to see Sarah and the Mama Grizzlies take on the marxists.

Romney, Huck, Pawlenty, Newt are boring and and dont stand a chance.  Christie or Thune would destroy Obama is a heartbeat which goes without saying.

Personally, I prefer Christie/Thune 2012. 

However, if its Sarah, I'm all in. 

       
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: BM OUT on July 30, 2010, 01:27:03 PM
Everyone knows that unless its Thune or Christie running, the media and everyone else wants to see Sarah and the Mama Grizzlies take on the marxists.

Romney, Huck, Pawlenty, Newt are boring and and dont stand a chance.  Christie or Thune would destroy Obama is a heartbeat which goes without saying.

Personally, I prefer Christie/Thune 2012. 

However, if its Sarah, I'm all in. 

       

I will take Thune or Cristie at the top and Paul Ryan as VP.THEN IN 8 YEARS WE GET RYAN FOR 8 YEARS.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Mons Venus on July 30, 2010, 01:28:42 PM
Everyone knows that unless its Thune or Christie running, the media and everyone else wants to see Sarah and the Mama Grizzlies take on the marxists.

Romney, Huck, Pawlenty, Newt are boring and and dont stand a chance.  Christie or Thune would destroy Obama is a heartbeat which goes without saying.

Personally, I prefer Christie/Thune 2012. 

However, if its Sarah, I'm all in.  

       


STOP THE MADNESS 333's!!!!!!!!.......Palin's a dipshit and you know it.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 30, 2010, 01:33:52 PM
Ha ha ha ha.  The Mama Grizzlies are on the attack.



This is what Sarah would do to Obama - Mama Grizzlies on the attack!  Ha Ha Ha. 

Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 30, 2010, 01:34:59 PM

STOP THE MADNESS 333's!!!!!!!!.......Palin's a dipshit and you know it.

We are royally screwed regardless but i prefer Sarah just because she won't pick kagan or sotomayors clones to the court. 
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Mons Venus on July 30, 2010, 01:36:03 PM
Ha ha ha ha.  The Mama Grizzlies are on the attack.



This is what Sarah would do to Obama - Mama Grizzlies on the attack!  Ha Ha Ha. 



Your CRAZY in love with Palin  ???......but I'd still have a beer with you.  :D
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 30, 2010, 01:38:38 PM
Yes, I like her and have never hid that. 

Do I prefer others?  Yes.

I'm liking Madoff/VanderSloot right now as both are already and jail and cant do us any more harm than the psychos in the WH or Congress. 

   
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Mons Venus on July 30, 2010, 01:41:09 PM
Yes, I like her and have never hid that. 

Do I prefer others?  Yes.

I'm liking Madoff/VanderSloot right now as both are already and jail and cant do us any more harm than the psychos in the WH or Congress.   
   

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Skip8282 on July 30, 2010, 02:03:20 PM
I think Newt might make a fairly decent President.  But, I'm not sure he could get the strong Republicans to come out and vote and I think he would need that.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 30, 2010, 02:12:14 PM
I think Newt might make a fairly decent President.  But, I'm not sure he could get the strong Republicans to come out and vote and I think he would need that.

Sad to say - but no one other than Christie or Sarah could get the people out on election day. 

Pawlenty or Huck or romney?  blah blah blah.  I am as die hard as they get and those guys do nothing for me to actually want to vote. 

My issue for 2012 is the SC.  Economy wise were are fucked.  However, the next president will get two more picks. 

Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 30, 2010, 02:15:46 PM
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Mons Venus on July 31, 2010, 03:41:12 AM
An example of the media infatuation with Palin.  Newt mentions eight possible candidates, but the story title is about Palin.  She's in their heads.   :) 

Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Posted: July 30th, 2010

From CNN's Charles Riley

Washington (CNN) - Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, himself weighing a presidential run in 2012, said Thursday that he expects Sarah Palin to be among the Republican contenders seeking the GOP nomination.

Asked to size up the prospective field during an interview with conservative magazine Newsmax, Gingrich rattled off a list of Republicans he expects to run.

"Well there are going to be lots of Republican running: Gov. Romney clearly, Gov. Palin, Gov. Huckabee, Gov. Mitch Daniels, Gov. Haley Barbour, Gov. Tim Pawlenty. I think John Thune, the senator from South Dakota is going to get in. Ron Paul is probably going to run again. So I think it will be a lively campaign, there will be a lot of good candidates," Gingrich said.

None of the politicians mentioned by Gingrich have announced a run for President, and Gingrich himself said he will announce his decision next year.

"Calista [his wife] and I, along with our family, will make that decision in February or March," Gingrich said. "For the moment, I'm totally focused on trying to help Republicans win the biggest possible election this fall."

Asked if Palin would be a strong candidate for President, Gingrich said she has the potential to be just that.

"I think she is already a very strong personality and has the potential to be a very strong candidate," Gingrich said.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/07/30/gingrich-expect-sarah-palin-for-president-in-2012/?fbid=54YJ106g8kS#more-115700

Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Mons Venus on July 31, 2010, 03:48:02 AM
President Palin?  :D :D :D

Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: drkaje on July 31, 2010, 04:22:34 AM
This is a bad sign. If the economy were recovering they would be pushing a serious candidate by now.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Straw Man on July 31, 2010, 08:31:16 AM
An example of the media infatuation with Palin.  Newt mentions eight possible candidates, but the story title is about Palin.  She's in their heads.   :)  

Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Posted: July 30th, 2010

Bum - when are you going to figure it out

the media loves a disaster story, a train wreck, a car chase, hostage situation etc..

Palin is a walking talking disaster

every time she opens her mouth she says something outrageous or idiotic and the media wants to be there to catch it all

that's the begining and end of the media fascination with Palin
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Danny on July 31, 2010, 08:36:45 AM
interesting article.

http://www.politicususa.com/en/palin-jealous-obama (http://www.politicususa.com/en/palin-jealous-obama)

For the last, oh my Gosh, almost TWO years since Palin hit the national scene, conservatives have been salivating over the Democrats’ alleged fear of Sarah Palin. Striking “fear” into their “enemies” is part of the entire worldview of these folks. Everything is seen as a war, a power structure of over and under, best exemplified by Palin’s selling herself as a hunter and someone who just got things done in Alaska (contrary to her actual record and her quitting of her job). While I reject this worldview, it’s important to note that their largest strategic failure is not their worldview, but their misinterpretation of the Left’s outrage over Palin.

We don’t fear her. We fear for our country if she were to be anywhere near in charge of it.

The worldview of the Left is based on more egalitarian and inclusive ideals; The Left wants to negotiate with other countries, use diplomacy and strategy before force, but not INSTEAD of force, and this is nuance is so often misunderstood by the black and white world view of the Right, the Left values intelligence (and this need not come from books, but from a curiosity about the world and other cultures) and a gathering of information before making decisions.

Sarah Palin is clearly a knee-jerk responder; someone who doesn’t value listening or learning, but instead goes in guns a blazin’. Sarah also brings with her a history of anger, bitterness, and misplaced and abused power.

Sarah Palin a dictator who is too willfully ignorant to understand that her tactics are dangerous to the national security of this country. A perfect example of this was during Palin’s time as mayor of Wasilla. Palin was confronted by Wasilla City Council member Nick Carney, a now estranged former mentor of Palin’s who actually picked her to run for Mayor of Wasilla, regarding her despotic style of management. Carney, recounting Palin’s illegal and lavish expenditures on redecorating her office, recalled, “I told her it was against the law to make such a large expenditure without the council taking a vote. She (Sarah Palin) said, ‘I’m the mayor, I can do whatever I want until the courts tell me I can’t.’”

As is typical among the incompetent, Palin is a rabid back-seat driver who can’t seem to let a day go by without desperately inserting herself into the national dialogue, in a transparent attempt to both equate herself with the President and get his attention. President Obama had Palin’s number from day one, and he’s never given her the attention she so craves. He’s dismissed her with a respectful nod, rising above Palin’s crude tactics.

Palin uses drama and conflict to gin up support for herself. She isn’t actually running on ideas and can’t run on her history of governing, so she has to run on feelings. She stirs up the Tea Bagging base by getting them angry. They read her anger and rage and contempt as strength, but it really comes from weakness. It’s all Palin has.

Palin uses her contempt to mask her fear of the Press. She uses her anger to mask her envy of the President. She uses her rage to mask her disgust that a black man beat her (this is how she sees it, never mind that she was not running against Obama).

If you watch Sarah Palin’s face in any speech or TV interview, she gives herself away with a thousand micro-expressions of rage, contempt and disgust. Micro expressions such as:

Envy: Eyes staring; mouth corners turned down; nose turned in sneer; chin jutting.
Disgust: Eyes and head turned away; nostrils flared; nose twisted in sneer; mouth closed, possibly with tongue protruding; chin jutting.
Anger: Eyes wide and staring; eyebrows pulled down (especially in middle); wrinkled forehead; flared nostrils; mouth flattened or clenched teeth bared; jutting chin, red face.
Contempt: Curled lips and wrinkled nose.

Palin often manages to plaster a fake smile over her predominantly negative emotions, but this only makes her less trustworthy to the astute viewer who senses the disconnect between her emotions and her smile. When her expressions aren’t giving her away, her pointed fingers jabbing outward do. And if that fails, there are always her words.

Palin consistently uses negative emotion words, which are all indicators of a guilty conscience. Sarah invented the Death Panel lie (which was actually a confession of the very real Death Panels in Alaska wherein over 250 people died under Palin’s Medicare program waiting for care — the only state program to ever be shut down by the feds for incompetence). Sarah came out with “pallin’ around with terrorists” when in fact she was sleeping with a secessionist.

Palin uses words to incite fear, anger and rage in her followers. They connect with Sarah because of her anger, not in spite of it. In a very real sense, many of the accusations against Obama and the Democrats that we hear from Republicans right now are confessions of their own reckless crusade of deregulation. And their accusations are more often than not couched in negative emotional words like “rape” and “Hitler”.

Democrats and frankly, Independents as well as thinking Republicans, worry about Sarah Palin coming anywhere near our White House. Not only is Sarah Palin incompetent and lazy, but she’s also a demagogue so full of negative emotions she would endanger this country every time she opened her mouth. As much as George W Bush was a cause for concern given his emotional make up, I have to say that Sarah Palin makes Bush seem sane, reasonable and smart. She has the temperament of a jealous, angry Junior High “mean girl” and she is clearly incapable of rising above her own emotions.

And that’s not OK in any adult, let alone a political leader. It’s irresponsible of the Right to champion this person who has been called a “sociopathic narcissist” by her own mentors and supporters as well as being referred to as “Frightening, Dangerous, Mentally Limited” by the McCain staff, as a possible leader for this country.

So what the Right senses as fear of Palin is actually fear for our country and fear that the Conservatives will once again endanger this country by electing another Fascist-styled dictator who just so happens to also, too be a war hawk and a religious extremist. We’re not afraid of her because she’s a powerful Conservative leader or a good Christian. She is neither and the Right will not be taken seriously until they come clean about what exactly they stand for.

We’re afraid of what she does to this country because she allows her bitter, jealous contempt of our President to come before the good of this nation.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: drkaje on July 31, 2010, 09:32:42 AM
I'm only afraid of her as a candidate because it would signal Republicans have given up, again. Only a serious, legit candidate can force things back towards the middle and get voters charged up.

Palin's an idiot*, period. No set of circumstances exist under which she could not beat Obama.

And yes. The article is right in one sense; you can see by the look in that chicks eyes she's scared poopless and in waaaay over her head.

* I'm being nice because Beach doesn't like too much swearing here. :)
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 31, 2010, 09:41:24 AM

STOP THE MADNESS 333's!!!!!!!!.......Palin's a dipshit and you know it.

Yet no one can give a viable reason why except the fact she's a threat to the left in every way.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Mons Venus on July 31, 2010, 10:11:27 AM
Yet no one can give a viable reason why except the fact she's a threat to the left in every way.

Hey Coach...I see you "quit" the political stuff again.  ::) ::) ::)

Opps...


Shockwave gave me a wake up call, I respect what he says and for the most part he was right.
 
 I understand no president is perfect and towards the end I know Bush really screwed up

Ok, I'm done. Shockwave, thank you.

Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: 240 is Back on July 31, 2010, 10:22:39 AM
Yet no one can give a viable reason why

Sure we can.

She said global warming is MANMADE.
She supports letting illegals stay - if they sign a piece of paper.
She's a spend-happy RINO, as evidenced by her time in Alaska.

This isn't lib nonsense.  Those are her own words and actions.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Mons Venus on July 31, 2010, 11:17:30 AM
Yet no one can give a viable reason why except the fact she's a threat to the left in every way.

Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Mons Venus on July 31, 2010, 11:22:38 AM



 :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Danny on July 31, 2010, 11:31:40 AM
Yet no one can give a viable reason why except the fact she's a threat to the left in every way.


 ::) ::) ::)"We don’t fear her. We fear for our country if she were to be anywhere near in charge of it." To difficult for you to understand???
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: drkaje on July 31, 2010, 11:33:02 AM
Yet no one can give a viable reason why except the fact she's a threat to the left in every way.

Dude,

All love and respect but you're on crack. Please quit, Coach!! That stuff destroys lives.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 31, 2010, 12:22:03 PM
I will vote for a death row convict over Obama in 2012. 
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: drkaje on July 31, 2010, 12:28:04 PM
I will vote for a death row convict over Obama in 2012. 

That's one of the reasons they don't feel obligated to advance a serious candidate.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 31, 2010, 12:40:19 PM
That's one of the reasons they don't feel obligated to advance a serious candidate.

Kaje - who would you consider serious that you think would win? 

I am obviously far too wrapped up in this stuff to be "independent" but who specifically do you think could pose a serioud threat in 2012?
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Mons Venus on July 31, 2010, 01:30:17 PM
Kaje - who would you consider serious that you think would win? 

I am obviously far too wrapped up in this stuff to be "independent" but who specifically do you think could pose a serioud threat in 2012?

Thune.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: drkaje on July 31, 2010, 02:33:13 PM
Kaje - who would you consider serious that you think would win? 

I am obviously far too wrapped up in this stuff to be "independent" but who specifically do you think could pose a serioud threat in 2012?

At least pick someone who isn't a freaking moron, FFS! Palin is a tard and cannot possibly win. Everyone here has heard her speak, try to make sentences and stuff and it's just shameful. I'd hit it, of course, but she's a bigger phony than Hillary Clinton and for people to even be considering her means we're fvucked for a few years.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 31, 2010, 02:43:58 PM
Shit Rob, is that really the best you can do especially after what's been going on for the last two years, if that's it, I'll take it in a heartbeat!
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Dos Equis on July 31, 2010, 05:56:53 PM
The Palin hatred is irrational.  And funny.   :)
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Straw Man on July 31, 2010, 06:06:36 PM
The Palin hatred is irrational.  And funny.   :)

no hatred

just rubbernecking

it's hard not to look at a train wreck and the Palin Express runs off the tracks on a regular basis
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: drkaje on July 31, 2010, 08:33:49 PM
The Palin hatred is irrational.  And funny.   :)

You're on crack and need rehab with Coach, LOL!

She's a total idiot, not hated. There's a difference.

Serious stuff needs discussing and she's not even sneaking on smart enough to be doing any talking.

If Republicans run her it means they've given up on our country.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Dos Equis on July 31, 2010, 09:27:20 PM
You're on crack and need rehab with Coach, LOL!

She's a total idiot, not hated. There's a difference.

Serious stuff needs discussing and she's not even sneaking on smart enough to be doing any talking.

If Republicans run her it means they've given up on our country.

Put the talking points away.  She is an extremely successful great American.  She is a remarkable woman, from her rise in politics to her duties as wife and mother.   

You know people are afraid of her when they start doing comical things like posting her high school transcripts on the internet and accusing her of faking the pregnancy of her child.  I find it extremely amusing.   :)

I have no idea who Republicans will nominate for president.  But to say they will have given up on our country if she is the nominee is pretty silly. 
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Al Doggity on August 01, 2010, 12:04:27 AM
Put the talking points away.  She is an extremely successful great American.  She is a remarkable woman, from her rise in politics to her duties as wife and mother.   

You know people are afraid of her when they start doing comical things like posting her high school transcripts on the internet and accusing her of faking the pregnancy of her child.  I find it extremely amusing.   :)

I have no idea who Republicans will nominate for president.  But to say they will have given up on our country if she is the nominee is pretty silly. 

It's not a matter of fear , it's a combination of  amusement, bemusement and nausea.  Any way you slice it, there is no way to defend her as a serious choice for presidential candidate.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: drkaje on August 01, 2010, 04:01:48 AM
Put the talking points away.  She is an extremely successful great American.  She is a remarkable woman, from her rise in politics to her duties as wife and mother.   

You know people are afraid of her when they start doing comical things like posting her high school transcripts on the internet and accusing her of faking the pregnancy of her child.  I find it extremely amusing.   :)

I have no idea who Republicans will nominate for president.  But to say they will have given up on our country if she is the nominee is pretty silly. 

There are no talking points on her. She hasn't done a thing other than be pretty, white and like guns. Someone who was smart wouldn't have gotten pregnant so late in life and ended up with a disabled child and would have monitored their own teenager better.

Digging up dirt is politics. Someone even found old parking tickets (unpaid of course) on Obama when he was a senator.

She has zero chance, nada, zilch of winning or even bringing good stuff to the table. You should all be embarrassed for being just as guilty as people who only voted for Obama due to race. If Obama had a pregnant teen daughter, multiple ethics issues and was stupid you'd all have a field day. Even the hunting thing makes me laugh because if they showed a black man with a gun we'd here Crips and Bloods jokes, LOL! But put her silly butt out there moose hunting between hockey game and she's somehow the perfect woman all the repubs have been dreaming of while their chubby wives ate bon bons.

I knew damn well a black president would affect people but didn't believe it would make them stupid.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 01, 2010, 05:22:29 AM
Obama supporters have no credibility whatsoever attacking palin for lack of experience.  None. 

In 2004, Obama himself said he had no experience whatsoever and was not qualified for office.  146 days later he announced he was running for POTUS. 

Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: drkaje on August 01, 2010, 05:39:53 AM
Obama supporters have no credibility whatsoever attacking palin for lack of experience.  None. 

In 2004, Obama himself said he had no experience whatsoever and was not qualified for office.  146 days later he announced he was running for POTUS. 

So someone with less than no experience is a better choice?! That Kool Aid must taste sweet, LOL!

I'm embarrassed for those who would vote Palin.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: 240 is Back on August 01, 2010, 06:42:06 AM
Obama supporters have no credibility whatsoever attacking palin for lack of experience.  None. 

Savage was right.  We've had one 'training wheels' president.  We know what that leads to.  Palin (and probably romney) would be another one.

get Thune/Newt in there :)
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Straw Man on August 01, 2010, 09:08:31 AM
There are no talking points on her. She hasn't done a thing other than be pretty, white and like guns. Someone who was smart wouldn't have gotten pregnant so late in life and ended up with a disabled child and would have monitored their own teenager better.

Digging up dirt is politics. Someone even found old parking tickets (unpaid of course) on Obama when he was a senator.

She has zero chance, nada, zilch of winning or even bringing good stuff to the table. You should all be embarrassed for being just as guilty as people who only voted for Obama due to race. If Obama had a pregnant teen daughter, multiple ethics issues and was stupid you'd all have a field day. Even the hunting thing makes me laugh because if they showed a black man with a gun we'd here Crips and Bloods jokes, LOL! But put her silly butt out there moose hunting between hockey game and she's somehow the perfect woman all the repubs have been dreaming of while their chubby wives ate bon bons.

I knew damn well a black president would affect people but didn't believe it would make them stupid.

You forgot she's crazy for Jesus and also exercised her choice to not have an abortion.
When you add those two items to her very mediocre resume you get "extremely successful Great American".......at least according to the Beach Bums of the world
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2010, 10:14:28 AM
It's not a matter of fear , it's a combination of  amusement, bemusement and nausea.  Any way you slice it, there is no way to defend her as a serious choice for presidential candidate.

I disagree.  She is all over the media, making a lot of money, and being sought out by political candidates because she is smart, identifies with "Joe Sixpack," is right on many aspects of public policy, is funny, and people like her. 

But you can keep believing that she is popular because people just want to make fun of her if that makes you feel better.   :) 

I'm not defending her as a "serious choice for presidential candidate."  I don't have to do that.  At this rate, practically any Republican nominee will be a "serious choice" against Obama.   
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2010, 10:23:17 AM
There are no talking points on her. She hasn't done a thing other than be pretty, white and like guns. Someone who was smart wouldn't have gotten pregnant so late in life and ended up with a disabled child and would have monitored their own teenager better.

Digging up dirt is politics. Someone even found old parking tickets (unpaid of course) on Obama when he was a senator.

She has zero chance, nada, zilch of winning or even bringing good stuff to the table. You should all be embarrassed for being just as guilty as people who only voted for Obama due to race. If Obama had a pregnant teen daughter, multiple ethics issues and was stupid you'd all have a field day. Even the hunting thing makes me laugh because if they showed a black man with a gun we'd here Crips and Bloods jokes, LOL! But put her silly butt out there moose hunting between hockey game and she's somehow the perfect woman all the repubs have been dreaming of while their chubby wives ate bon bons.

I knew damn well a black president would affect people but didn't believe it would make them stupid.

More talking points.  Saying she hasn't done anything is contrary to the facts.  Even wikipedia should be able to help you learn more about her background.  It's pretty impressive.  I don't like the fact she didn't finish her term as Gov, but she has had a great career.  Terrific accomplishments. 

Your comments about her family are just plain stupid.  I know you're smarter than that.  Sounds like you're just trying to play devil's advocate.   

Talking about a candidate's high school grades, her children, making up stories, attacking her marriage, etc. isn't "digging up dirt."  It's falsified character assassination.  Has no place in politics.  The fact it has happened to other candidates doesn't make it right.  It really is a sign of desperation and fear.   

If she runs and wins the nomination, she'll have a great shot to beat Obama.  His administration has been a train wreck.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2010, 10:25:18 AM
So someone with less than no experience is a better choice?! That Kool Aid must taste sweet, LOL!

I'm embarrassed for those who would vote Palin.

She has more experience than Obama had, not less.  The man never had a real full-time job.  He had zero executive experience.  How the heck does that happen? 

I'm embarrassed for those Obama-bots who are still drinking the Kool Aid. 
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Straw Man on August 01, 2010, 10:30:43 AM
She has more experience than Obama had, not less.  The man never had a real full-time job.  He had zero executive experience.  How the heck does that happen?  

I'm embarrassed for those Obama-bots who are still drinking the Kool Aid. 

simple

the voters looked at McCain/Palin and then ran as fast as they could toward Obama

many of them might have done so reluctantly but they made a rational choice to choose Obama over an old man and a dumb broad
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2010, 10:37:02 AM
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Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: drkaje on August 01, 2010, 10:40:26 AM
More talking points.  Saying she hasn't done anything is contrary to the facts.  Even wikipedia should be able to help you learn more about her background.  It's pretty impressive.  I don't like the fact she didn't finish her term as Gov, but she has had a great career.  Terrific accomplishments. 

Your comments about her family are just plain stupid.  I know you're smarter than that.  Sounds like you're just trying to play devil's advocate.   

Talking about a candidate's high school grades, her children, making up stories, attacking her marriage, etc. isn't "digging up dirt."  It's falsified character assassination.  Has no place in politics.  The fact it has happened to other candidates doesn't make it right.  It really is a sign of desperation and fear.   

If she runs and wins the nomination, she'll have a great shot to beat Obama.  His administration has been a train wreck.

Bush's people made up dirt on McCain for South Carolina.

She's just a moron. No more, no less.

We'd be better off with an empty white house than another nitwit.

Additionally, McCain should have never been the candidate. Everyone knew damn well he couldn't win.

She's still hitable but that's all.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Straw Man on August 01, 2010, 10:42:44 AM
Bush's people made up dirt on McCain for South Carolina.

She's just a moron. No more, no less.

We'd be better off with an empty white house than another nitwit.

Additionally, McCain should have never been the candidate. Everyone knew damn well he couldn't win.

She's still hitable but that's all.

Bum will  never be able to accept/understand this
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: drkaje on August 01, 2010, 10:44:12 AM
Bum will  never be able to accept/understand this

She's the great white hope.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2010, 10:44:58 AM
Bush's people made up dirt on McCain for South Carolina.

She's just a moron. No more, no less.

We'd be better off with an empty white house than another nitwit.

Additionally, McCain should have never been the candidate. Everyone knew damn well he couldn't win.

She's still hitable but that's all.

Really?  What dirt did Bush's people make up on McCain? 

Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: 240 is Back on August 01, 2010, 10:50:49 AM
Really?  What dirt did Bush's people make up on McCain? 



Bush supposedly ran some phone survey in the batleground SC state - asking "would it bother you if you found out mccain had fathered an illigitimate african-american baby?"  Something along those lines.  Mccain had been campaigning in the state with a young cambodian girl his family was adopting. 

Rove denied it, but hundreds of people in battleground districts all claimed they had received the same called.   It's called a "whisper campaign".... tough to prove (who really tape records political messages to their house".  but Bush's was pretty widely criticized even years later for the tactic. 
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2010, 10:53:33 AM
Bush supposedly ran some phone survey in the batleground SC state - asking "would it bother you if you found out mccain had fathered an illigitimate african-american baby?"  Something along those lines.  Mccain had been campaigning in the state with a young cambodian girl his family was adopting. 

Rove denied it, but hundreds of people in battleground districts all claimed they had received the same called.   It's called a "whisper campaign".... tough to prove (who really tape records political messages to their house".  but Bush's was pretty widely criticized even years later for the tactic. 

Sounds like tabloid material. 
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: 240 is Back on August 01, 2010, 10:55:19 AM
Sounds like tabloid material. 

I'm surprised this is the first you've heard of it.  It was pretty widely reported 10 years ago when it happened.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2010, 10:57:28 AM
I'm surprised this is the first you've heard of it.  It was pretty widely reported 10 years ago when it happened.

Maybe it didn't register with me because it sounds like tabloid material. 
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: 240 is Back on August 01, 2010, 10:57:52 AM
WIKI reports it as well.  it happened.  nothing tabloid about it.



During the 2000 Republican presidential primary, Senator John McCain was the target of a whisper campaign implying that he had fathered a black child out of wedlock. (McCain's adopted daughter is a dark-skinned child from Bangladesh). Voters in South Carolina were reportedly asked, "Would you be more likely or less likely to vote for John McCain if you knew that he fathered an illegitimate black child?". McCain would later lose the South Carolina primary, and the nomination, to George W. Bush.

In addition, on the week of the nomination vote, dozens of radio stations were called on the same day asking talk show hosts what they thought of McCain's fathering of a black child out of wedlock. McCain later said of the incidents:[1]

"There were some pretty vile and hurtful things said during the South Carolina primary. It's a really nasty side of politics. We tried to ignore it and I think we shielded [our daughter] from it. It's just unfortunate that that sort of thing still exists. As you know she's Bengali, and very dark skinned. A lot of phone calls were made by people who said we should be very ashamed about her, about the color of her skin. Thousands and thousands of calls from people to voters saying, 'You know, the McCains have a black baby.' I believe that there is a special place in hell for people like those."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whispering_campaign
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2010, 11:02:31 AM
WIKI reports it as well.  it happened.  nothing tabloid about it.



During the 2000 Republican presidential primary, Senator John McCain was the target of a whisper campaign implying that he had fathered a black child out of wedlock. (McCain's adopted daughter is a dark-skinned child from Bangladesh). Voters in South Carolina were reportedly asked, "Would you be more likely or less likely to vote for John McCain if you knew that he fathered an illegitimate black child?". McCain would later lose the South Carolina primary, and the nomination, to George W. Bush.

In addition, on the week of the nomination vote, dozens of radio stations were called on the same day asking talk show hosts what they thought of McCain's fathering of a black child out of wedlock. McCain later said of the incidents:[1]

"There were some pretty vile and hurtful things said during the South Carolina primary. It's a really nasty side of politics. We tried to ignore it and I think we shielded [our daughter] from it. It's just unfortunate that that sort of thing still exists. As you know she's Bengali, and very dark skinned. A lot of phone calls were made by people who said we should be very ashamed about her, about the color of her skin. Thousands and thousands of calls from people to voters saying, 'You know, the McCains have a black baby.' I believe that there is a special place in hell for people like those."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whispering_campaign

Wiki doesn't "report." 

Saying this was orchestrated by Bush sounds like tabloid material. 
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Straw Man on August 01, 2010, 11:04:55 AM
yeah if it were "reported" in NewsMax or World Net Daily then it would be more credible.

Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2010, 11:07:26 AM
yeah if it were "reported" in NewsMax or World Net Daily then it would be more credible.



lol.  Says the Village Idiot.  lol . . . .
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: drkaje on August 01, 2010, 11:11:34 AM
That's also when McCain went all off tangent talking about the evil empire, LOL!

Poor guy's likely got severe PTSD. Definitely a great American but no one can go through what he did without being seriously effed up.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Straw Man on August 01, 2010, 11:11:56 AM
lol.  Says the Village Idiot.  lol . . . .

says the man who thinks NewsMax and WND are credible sources of news
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2010, 11:12:49 AM
That's also when McCain went all off tangent talking about the evil empire, LOL!

Poor guy's likely got severe PTSD. Definitely a great American but no one can go through what he did without being seriously effed up.

Well we agree he's a great American.   :)
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Straw Man on August 01, 2010, 11:20:00 AM
Well we agree he's a great American.   :)

just wondering

what is your criteria for "great american"

we know you think McCain and Palin are both "great americns" and I don't know of anything they have in common and other than McCains service to his country during war I can't think of anything else that might qualify him as great
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2010, 11:21:11 AM
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Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: 240 is Back on August 01, 2010, 11:22:18 AM
Saying this was orchestrated by Bush sounds like tabloid material. 

Well, we know this event happened.

I guess without a written confession from Rove, we can't blame bush.  maybe someone else did it.  Sure.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2010, 11:24:42 AM
Well, we know this event happened.

I guess without a written confession from Rove, we can't blame bush.  maybe someone else did it.  Sure.

Or you can believe Bush ordered this campaign.  Even though you have no proof.  I suspect the most credible sources are liberal bloggers. 
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Straw Man on August 01, 2010, 11:27:36 AM
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I don't know how to translate and eye roll into a definition of "great american"
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2010, 11:30:10 AM
I don't know how to translate and eye roll into a definition of "great american"


 ::) = don't feel like engaging the Village Idiot today.  That is all.  Now run along.   :)
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Straw Man on August 01, 2010, 11:31:36 AM


 ::) = don't feel like engaging the Village Idiot today.  That is all.  Now run along.   :)


translation =  you have no clue what you're talking about and when pressed for any kind of detail you run away

Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Al Doggity on August 01, 2010, 11:34:58 AM
Or you can believe Bush ordered this campaign.  Even though you have no proof.  I suspect the most credible sources are liberal bloggers. 

And of course, by most accounts, John McCain himself.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2010, 11:36:39 AM
And of course, by most accounts, John McCain himself.

So?  He probably relied on tabloid reports too.  Still doesn't provide any credible evidence that Bush was behind it.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Straw Man on August 01, 2010, 11:44:57 AM
So?  He probably relied on tabloid reports too.  Still doesn't provide any credible evidence that Bush was behind it.

or MUCH more likely he and his staff received hundreds of first hand reports and maybe even heard recordings of the call
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Al Doggity on August 01, 2010, 11:46:29 AM
Or, more realistically, he had become familiar with the Bush campaigns filthy tactics up until that point.

Regardless, it was a real event and sources went far beyond "liberal bloggers".
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2010, 11:47:44 AM
Or, more realistically, he had become familiar with the Bush campaigns filthy tactics up until that point.

Regardless, it was a real event and sources went far beyond "liberal bloggers".

What credible sources established that Bush was behind this? 
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: drkaje on August 01, 2010, 11:48:04 AM
just wondering

what is your criteria for "great american"

we know you think McCain and Palin are both "great americns" and I don't know of anything they have in common and other than McCains service to his country during war I can't think of anything else that might qualify him as great

I say McCain is a great American because he served, despite have the means to avoid doing so. He didn't go National Guard or have a security escort the entire tour either, LOL! Additionally, when shot down he managed to survive and despite being tortured didn't quit. He is someone that's earned respect hard way.

Being a great American doesn't mean the guy should have gotten a free pass at the White House, though. It does, however, mean the Bush cronies should have at least acted in a more honorable way but they did us all a favor by showing he can come unraveled when the right buttons are pushed. I really respected him more as a politician before he started playing the game and backed away from real campaign finance reform. He was probably the only politician I had any respect for until Bush got to him.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Straw Man on August 01, 2010, 11:55:01 AM
I say McCain is a great American because he served, despite have the means to avoid doing so. He didn't go National Guard or have a security escort the entire tour either, LOL! Additionally, when shot down he managed to survive and despite being tortured didn't quit. He is someone that's earned respect hard way.

Being a great American doesn't mean the guy should have gotten a free pass at the White House, though. It does, however, mean the Bush cronies should have at least acted in a more honorable way but they did us all a favor by showing he can come unraveled when the right buttons are pushed. I really respected him more as a politician before he started playing the game and backed away from real campaign finance reform. He was probably the only politician I had any respect for until Bush got to him.

personally I don't think serving even though he could have gotten out of it qualifies as being great

surviving torture, not giving in, being an inspiration to other definitely qualifies him (IMO)

I still have no idea what Palin has done that would qualify her a "great american"
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: drkaje on August 01, 2010, 12:01:35 PM
personally I don't think serving even though he could have gotten out of it qualifies as being great

surviving torture, not giving in, being an inspiration to other definitely qualifies him (IMO)

I still have no idea what Palin has done that would qualify her a "great american"

She saw Russia!

Pay attention, dammit! >:(
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 01, 2010, 02:59:10 PM
Wow, I read through every post on here and still know one can come up with reason on why they hate her exept for taking some exerpts from Olberman and the state ran media. No wonder why the dems are losing their asses in the poll, the media through them under the bus without even realizing it, talk about stupid, I wonder if Chris Mathews still has that "tingle" going up and down leg..hahaha. Maybe its just his bladder!
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Straw Man on August 01, 2010, 03:21:49 PM
Wow, I read through every post on here and still know one can come up with reason on why they hate her exept for taking some exerpts from Olberman and the state ran media. No wonder why the dems are losing their asses in the poll, the media through them under the bus without even realizing it, talk about stupid, I wonder if Chris Mathews still has that "tingle" going up and down leg..hahaha. Maybe its just his bladder!

that's because we don't hate her

how did you miss that in all the posts
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2010, 04:50:44 PM
Wow, I read through every post on here and still know one can come up with reason on why they hate her exept for taking some exerpts from Olberman and the state ran media. No wonder why the dems are losing their asses in the poll, the media through them under the bus without even realizing it, talk about stupid, I wonder if Chris Mathews still has that "tingle" going up and down leg..hahaha. Maybe its just his bladder!

Truth. 
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Straw Man on August 01, 2010, 04:55:21 PM
Truth. 

how can incomprehensible jibberish be "truth"

what is "state ran media"

is that part of the liberal media?
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: drkaje on August 01, 2010, 05:07:23 PM
how can incomprehensible jibberish be "truth"

what is "state ran media"

is that part of the liberal media?

It's a vast left wing conspiracy to let her keep talking.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Fury on August 01, 2010, 05:12:05 PM
Running Palin as the Republican ticket would GUARANTEE Obama wins reelection. The Repubs should try to get someone with an IQ over 40.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: 240 is Back on August 01, 2010, 06:12:18 PM
It's a vast left wing conspiracy to let her keep talking.

yes

Running Palin as the Republican ticket would GUARANTEE Obama wins reelection.

yes


Repubs, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE choose newt, thune, or Pawlenty in 2012.  Don't think with your testosterone... use your brains.  Correct or not - A whole bunch of people think she is not presidential material.  Just put up a really good candidate to whoop Obama in 2012.  it's that simple.  You put up a sideshow like her and the "left" will be dancing.  Obama will win easily.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 01, 2010, 06:14:40 PM
It's a vast left wing conspiracy to let her keep talking.

It was PROVEN about 2 weeks ago through emails that the mainstream media was covering for Obama and the left.


Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 01, 2010, 06:15:25 PM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4299765/sarah-palin-on-fns
Title: Re: Gingrich: Expect Sarah Palin for President in 2012
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 02, 2010, 05:43:23 AM
I will vote for anyone over Obama in 2012.  I don't care if its Sarah, Madoff, VanderSloot, Lady Ga Ga, Snookie, Bear Grylis, TO, Derek Jeter, AROD, Krusty the Clown, they have my vote over the disaster in the WH.