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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Disgusted on August 05, 2010, 11:32:13 AM
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Seems that someone (Gene cough cough) got their panties in a bunch about me posting so called personal info proving that Dante's real middle name is Gene. So even though I posted public info I'll respect Ron and will not post it. It still doesn't change the fact that he is a lying scumbag who welshes on a bet. Come one Gene, why the boo boo lip? ;D Sucks to called out and proven a fraud doesn't it. As long as you are winning an argument everthing s OK, but a soon as things go awry Gene is dialing whine one one for the wambulance. ;D
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Genes boyfriends name is Don, who is Dante?
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Genes boyfriends name is Don, who is Dante?
Dante, Dogcrapp, DC, Genecrapp, Brian he has a ton of names. ;D
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Seems that someone (Gene cough cough) got their panties in a bunch about me posting so called personal info proving that Dante's real middle name is Gene. So even though I posted public info I'll respect Ron and will not post it. It still doesn't change the fact that he is a lying scumbag who welshes on a bet. Come one Gene, why the boo boo lip? ;D Sucks to called out and proven a fraud doesn't it. As long as you are winning an argument everthing s OK, but a soon as things go awry Gene is dialing whine one one for the wambulance. ;D
That fat guy(Genecrap) is the biggest fraud..Every time he loses an argument the thread mysteriously disappears into oblivion.
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He's been on my ass for over a year and I warned him many times and he just laughed. Now he's calling the Waaambulance. ;D
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As you guys can see this Doggcrap guy looks like shit and people are paying for his advice. Fat panda looks equal to dante and he doesn't even train..
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It got way too personal, and frankly, I dont want family information out there - Dogcrapp is one thing because he is a public figure - his family is not. Same thing for Disgusted!
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It got way too personal, and frankly, I dont want family information out there - Dogcrapp is one thing because he is a public figure - his family is not. Same thing for Disgusted!
Agreed and done. Thanks Ron and for the record I would NEVER post family info on anyone and never have. That just isn't cool.
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I know someone who dante helped prep and dude looked outstanding. WTF cares what he looks like. Disgusted, if this is so why has he been on your ass for over a year.
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He's been on my ass for over a year and I warned him many times and he just laughed. Now he's calling the Waaambulance. ;D
He says that you ripped him off..Why would he say something like that?
I don't believe him because of his advice that he gives to people..Like having about 10 servings of liquid protein per day...Drinking olive oil and rinsing ground beef. He's a snake salesmen
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It got way too personal, and frankly, I dont want family information out there - Dogcrapp is one thing because he is a public figure - his family is not. Same thing for Disgusted!
if only others followed along these lines Ron. Agreed family and personal shit don't belong on boards, unless you throw out your own
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It got way too personal, and frankly, I dont want family information out there - Dogcrapp is one thing because he is a public figure - his family is not. Same thing for Disgusted!
Looks like Gene has Ron's cell phone number... :o
Let's get back to the important thing...
The 10K bet that Disgusted and doggcrap were making..
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if only others followed along these lines Ron. Agreed family and personal shit don't belong on boards, unless you throw out your own
uh, which dante was doing,
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He says that you ripped him off..Why would he say something like that?
I don't believe him because of his advice that he gives to people..Like having about 10 servings of liquid protein per day...Drinking olive oil and rinsing ground beef. He's a snake salesmen
OK First he posted that I ripped him off of something like $4k (in 1996?) on another board. Then a few months later when he got mad at me again for not agreeing with something he said he made it personal again. He said I owed him something like $13k and swore on his life that I did. The idiot didn't even remember his own lies. I saved all the info and posted it on Promuscle and the thread got shut down. ::) Here's the kicker, he offered to make the Plazmosis for me and told me this on Getbig over a year ago on a thread. Why would someone do that if I am a thief???
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uh, which dante was doing,
this is true, but I don't recall him putting his family information out there Un$ung
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this is true, but I don't recall him putting his family information out there Un$ung
He posted his mom dad and grand fathers names.
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He posted his mom dad and grand fathers names.
Gotcha. Was that here or on the other board
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Gene posted his own family info on here, making it fair game.
Everyone knows DC is a snakeoil salesman, sure he can get people into shape, but so can Disgusted.
Come on Gene, post your birth certificate.
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Gotcha. Was that here or on the other board
Here and he did that yesterday and I have no idea why he did. I would never post that on anyone. All I posted was a pubilc doc. that proves his legal name is Brain Gene Trudel and I only did it because he dared me too.
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Gene is welcome to come here and "try" to defend himself with a 100 page thesus like he usually does. ;D and I'll be glad to refute anything he says. I know what his story is already about the money thing so I will clarify that later, but for now I have some thievery to get into. ::) ;D
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Here and he did that yesterday and I have no idea why he did. I would never post that on anyone. All I posted was a pubilc doc. that proves his legal name is Brain Gene Trudel and I only did it because he dared me too.
Gotcha
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225for70 - i would appreciate if you would never compare me with that test bloated liar doggcrapp ever again !
i have been exposing him here for years, from his stealing mentzers/jones ideas and portraying them as his own, his outlandish protein requirement claims/ lies to sell more protein, to his obvious rampant steroid abuse, to his sending his trainees to steroid scammers for a cut, and i even exposed his obese shoulders.
and in no way wish to be likened to him.
also unlike yourself i do actually lift weights - weights that would likely crush your tiny skeletal frame.
also who's gimmick are you ?
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boy...i'm surprise the romanian isn't mixed up in this. anway...wiggs keeps calling me g-string. i will post all his personal stuff...as soon as he is willing to pm it to me. ::)
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I know someone who dante helped prep and dude looked outstanding. WTF cares what he looks like. Disgusted, if this is so why has he been on your ass for over a year.
Yeah but you think conehead/cankles is the shit. So its obvious that your vision is a mess.
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1) Took me for 1000's of dollars in the 90s....FACT
2) got made to look like a punk on pro muscle by skip when he was bullshitting about being in the know about Phil Heaths ergo usage...FACT
3) Refuses on multiple boards and multiple threads to take me up on 10 thousand dollar bet (I cannot trick him into it because he knows he will get caught)....Call me gene if you want, Call me Brian....call me Dante...its my name!!! Do you think i would ever be upset about being called my own name! Does being called James (whatever) Magnone upset you? I explained it allready, my parents like my dad and grandad before me named me BGDT....on my DL, SS etc etc etc it says BDT but thats not totally correct...Its BGDT so your point? Actually I like Gene way more than Doggcrapp so lets stick with Gene.
Now since you are trying so hard to divert the complete embarrasment i must of caused you on pro muscle...lets get back to what embarrassed you so badly that you are scrambling all over the place to trying so hard to avoid it.
I must of really screwed up your day....whats the matter? Truth hurts?
Doesnt it suck when you got a guy who calls you out to the tune of 10 thousand on a multiple of things and you cant commit? Its called putting your money where your mouth is. The arrest stuff? Way over the line...
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1) Took me for 1000's of dollars in the 90s....FACT
2) got made to look like a punk on pro muscle by skip when he was bullshitting about being in the know about Phil Heaths ergo usage...FACT
3) Refuses on multiple boards and multiple threads to take me up on 10 thousand dollar bet (I cannot trick him into it because he knows he will get caught)....Call me gene if you want, Call me Brian....call me Dante...its my name!!! Do you think i would ever be upset about being called my own name! Does being called James (whatever) Magnone upset you? I explained it allready, my parents like my dad and grandad before me named me BGDT....on my DL, SS etc etc etc it says BDT but thats not totally correct...Its BGDT so your point? Actually I like Gene way more than Doggcrapp so lets stick with Gene.
Now since you are trying so hard to divert the complete embarrasment i must of caused you on pro muscle...lets get back to what embarrassed you so badly that you are scrambling all over the place to trying so hard to avoid it.
I must of really screwed up your day....whats the matter? Truth hurts?
Doesnt it suck when you got a guy who calls you out to the tune of 10 thousand on a multiple of things and you cant commit? Its called putting your money where your mouth is. The arrest stuff? Way over the line...
How did Jim rip you off..You have any evidence at all?..Also why did you allow that to happen?
Dante is it true that you spend about 3-5K every 5 weeks on test, GH, food? Speak on this?
Last i heard you were at 7 grams per week?
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Hey, I've always liked both Disgusted and Dante, so not taking any sides!! But is this seriously an argument about if "Dante" really is his middle name or not? :-) What is this, middle school? I dunno if its his real name or not, but who really cares :) Sounds like there are other issues not being put out on the table!
For the record, Dante, I think you should change your name all together,
First name: Dogg, Last name: Crapp
Why can't we all just get along :-)?
Jus my opinion ;D
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This Dogcrapp fella has more aliases than Frank Abagnale Jr.
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Hey, I've always liked both Disgusted and Dante, so not taking any sides!! But is this seriously an argument about if "Dante" really is his middle name or not? :-) What is this, middle school? I dunno if its his real name or not, but who really cares :) Sounds like there are other issues not being put out on the table!
For the record, Dante, I think you should change your name all together,
First name: Dogg, Last name: Crapp
Why can't we all just get along :-)?
Jus my opinion ;D
it isnt about that at all...he got made to look like a total punk on that thread by Skip and when i tell people he took me for 1000's in the 90's it embarrasses him completely (because lets be honest who wants to look like they arent a legitimate person in business when money exchanges hands)......he wanted to forget about it, I dont let him forget it....so he is scrambling to somehow get off the issues.
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it isnt about that at all...he got made to look like a total punk on that thread by Skip and when i tell people he took me for 1000's in the 90's it embarrasses him completely (because lets be honest who wants to look like they arent a legitimate person in business when money exchanges hands)......he wanted to forget about it, I dont let him forget it....so he is scrambling to somehow get off the issues.
Your quite the bullshitter :D
How does a Ivy League scholar like yourself get taken for thousands?
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it isnt about that at all...he got made to look like a total punk on that thread by Skip and when i tell people he took me for 1000's in the 90's it embarrasses him completely (because lets be honest who wants to look like they arent a legitimate person in business when money exchanges hands)......he wanted to forget about it, I dont let him forget it....so he is scrambling to somehow get off the issues.
Why won't you just post your birth certificate and end all this?
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Why won't you just post your birth certificate and end all this?
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Because its smeared with doggcrapp and wouldn't prove anything :-)
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Why won't you just post your birth certificate and end all this?
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he wants his
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he wants his
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Can someone please tell me why the fuck would someone call themselves Doggcrapp?
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Can someone please tell me why the fuck would someone call themselves Doggcrapp?
He's referring to getbig here.
“… six years ago I was a member of a small but elite bodybuilding board on the Net that had about 50 members. I never posted; I just read the posts. I had viewed some posts by advanced bodybuilders on that board that I felt were very detrimental toward their health. I decided to respond and posted with the anonymous screen name of Doggcrapp. I thought it would be one post and kaput, done and over with. Man, was I ever wrong!”
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Having met and hung out a little with Dante I can tell he's a very generous and geniune person, whatever the fuck is "middle name" is... who fucking care.... hell, he has always been honest with us here... He also runs a sucessful business and seem to be doing what he loves. what's next, he's a crook too with a rap sheet ::) ...
Jim also comes out as an honest and very altruistic... however, a little secluded ;D
Not sure what the beef is, not much time to browse all the internets these days but I'm surprised of this coming from Jim :-\
My guess is there's more to it.. 3rd party involved in this shit..
www.dailyalphamaler.com
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1) Took me for 1000's of dollars in the 90s....FACT
2) got made to look like a punk on pro muscle by skip when he was bullshitting about being in the know about Phil Heaths ergo usage...FACT
3) Refuses on multiple boards and multiple threads to take me up on 10 thousand dollar bet (I cannot trick him into it because he knows he will get caught)....Call me gene if you want, Call me Brian....call me Dante...its my name!!! Do you think i would ever be upset about being called my own name! Does being called James (whatever) Magnone upset you? I explained it allready, my parents like my dad and grandad before me named me BGDT....on my DL, SS etc etc etc it says BDT but thats not totally correct...Its BGDT so your point? Actually I like Gene way more than Doggcrapp so lets stick with Gene.
Now since you are trying so hard to divert the complete embarrasment i must of caused you on pro muscle...lets get back to what embarrassed you so badly that you are scrambling all over the place to trying so hard to avoid it.
I must of really screwed up your day....whats the matter? Truth hurts?
Doesnt it suck when you got a guy who calls you out to the tune of 10 thousand on a multiple of things and you cant commit? Its called putting your money where your mouth is. The arrest stuff? Way over the line...
First of all Gene it seems as if you got your facts and fairytailes a little bassackwards. Just because you put the word "fact" in front of something doesn't mean its true.
Secondly, if you don't want family info posted on here then you ought not post it yourself!!!! Jesus you really are a few Halogens shy of a lighthouse. ::)
Thirdly, the public court doc. (nothing to do with family) that I posted showed your legal name as "Brian Gene Trudel" not Brian Gene Dante or Brian Gene Dogcrap. End of story.
Fourthly, ;D Is this Skip guy that you are talking about the one who said he talks to Phil Heath twice a week and knows what steroids he does? Need I say more? ::)
Lastly why don't you tell everyone on here about these millions that IOU and when you are done tell them why you came on Getbig and offered to make the Plazmosis for me and King. I would love to hear why you wanted to do business with a thief. Oh and since you are not going to send me a check then I guess I'll just take it off the total that I owe you. :P
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wtf cares what his middle name is, yeesh
I agree with you Big Ach, both seem like good dudes
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wtf cares what his middle name is, yeesh
I agree with you Big Ach, both seem like good dudes
Not much of a reason to care, unless someone bets you $10k. ;) It all boils down to just some of the lies that he tells people.
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wtf cares what his middle name is, yeesh
I agree with you Big Ach, both seem like good dudes
know your place >:(
so jim, what details were you telling the pimpmuscle readers about phil heath ?
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Not much of a reason to care, unless someone bets you $10k. ;) It all boils down to just some of the lies that he tells people.
damn you guru's got money like that eh??
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2) got made to look like a punk on pro muscle by skip when he was bullshitting about being in the know about Phil Heaths ergo usage...FACT
FACT my ass. :D
I don't know what kind of business dealings you've had with Jim in the past but making an issue of Jim saying Heath uses insulin was COMPLETE AND UTTER BULLSHIT! And you know it. :D
Skip is arrogant and has a huge ego, which he's said himself, and he didn't really contest the content of what Jim was saying, he simply had a problem with Jim commenting on his friend. This dude fits better on a board where he can just delete any posts he doesn't like.
Jim used common fucking sense. Later on someone came on and said Heath himself told him he used insulin I.M. post workout. Holy shit, I'm sure everyone was surprised. No one argued this post. ::)
Dante, you've speculated on what guys do all the time. Do you know this guy and what he does? Yet you give him a death sentence if he doesn't change his ways.
There is a guy in the heavies and I am not going to name any names here....but I am pretty sure Hernon and especially Shelby know who I am talking about (i know for fact Shelby does)
There is a certain look Ive seen guys have in this sport before they have ended up dying from blood clots or cardiac events (like Leffler did and others {Sterling also}, D'arruzio) and this guy has it in spades......I would be very surprised if his body could take "what is going on" for another 5 years and live
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Then this bitch "Massive G" comes on and suggests Phil might sue Jim for slander. I can see it now, "Your honor, this guy wrote on the internet that I use drugs to build my body". :D
"Massive G" is a sucker fish attaching himself to the belly of the whale (Dante). Part of the circle jerk crew around Dante.
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FACT my ass. :D
I don't know what kind of business dealings you've had with Jim in the past but making an issue of Jim saying Heath uses insulin was COMPLETE AND UTTER BULLSHIT! And you know it. :D
Skip is arrogant and has a huge ego, which he's said himself, and he didn't really contest the content of what Jim was saying, he simply had a problem with Jim commenting on his friend. This dude fits better on a board where he can just delete any posts he doesn't like.
Jim used common fucking sense. Later on someone came on and said Heath himself told him he used insulin I.M. post workout. Holy shit, I'm sure everyone was surprised. No one argued this post. ::)
Dante, you've speculated on what guys do all the time. Do you know this guy and what he does? Yet you give him a death sentence if he doesn't change his ways.
(http://contests.flexonline.com/images/contests/large/56615.jpg)
Then this bitch "Massive G" comes on and suggests Phil might sue Jim for slander. I can see it now, "Your honor, this guy wrote on the internet that I use drugs to build my body". :D
"Massive G" is a sucker fish attaching himself to the belly of the whale (Dante). Part of the circle jerk crew around Dante.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Maybe this poor guy can sue Gene for slander and the mental anguish that he caused his family who now thinks he's gonna die. Oh and word is the Skipper is pissed at a certain friend of his (5th place SH USA) for hiring Chris Aceto instead of him. ;)
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van are you serious ?
this has all came about because jim said phil uses insulin post workout ??? thats it ???
sounds like there is far too much estrogen floating around on pimpmuscle.
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van are you serious ?
this has all came about because jim said phil uses insulin post workout ??? thats it ???
sounds like there is far too much estrogen floating around on pimpmuscle.
Jim said something to the effect of, "Phil put on a lot of size when he started slamming insulin, I think he's done growing pretty much". Then someone has a problem and the rest of the pack of sucker fish come barging in. :D
It was just common sense innocuous comment. Even if you don't agree it's ridiculous to make a big deal out of something like this.
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Jim said something to the effect of, "Phil put on a lot of size when he started slamming insulin, I think he's done growing pretty much". Then someone has a problem and the rest of the pack of sucker fish come barging in. :D
It was just common sense innocuous comment. Even if you don't agree it's ridiculous to make a big deal out of something like this.
That' pretty much exact. Now the sad thing is I feel bad because I wasn't trash talking about phil. He's only doing what the rest are doing, but this Skippy guy comes on and demands I apologize cause in his words he talks to Phil twice a week and he knows what Phil does. ::) The here comes Gene of course with his, you owe me money from 199? and your a scumbag liar blah blah blah. ;D Does anyone on here know what this Skip guys last name is? He acts all guruish and all, but other than the boards I never heard of him.
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True Protein Dot Com
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According to Gene, one of these guys in the pic below is going to die within a short period of time from steroid abuse and the other according to him is on HRT replacement therapy of 200 mg testosterone. Can you guess which one? The winner gets 10g's. That is, as soon as I get my money. >:(
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The arrest stuff? Way over the line...
On a serious note here. You talk about the arrest stuff being over the line. First of all it was the only way I could prove your legal name and you knew that and still kept daring me. Second I really don't give two shits about what you got into trouble for as none of us are perfect, BUT after what you have said about me over the last year and kept it up and laughed about it and dared me to sue you and on and on, well all I got to say to you is FUK YOU. You deserve all that is coming to you. After all, you asked for it, literally. ;)
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it isnt about that at all...he got made to look like a total punk on that thread by Skip and when i tell people he took me for 1000's in the 90's it embarrasses him completely (because lets be honest who wants to look like they arent a legitimate person in business when money exchanges hands)......he wanted to forget about it, I dont let him forget it....so he is scrambling to somehow get off the issues.
How so??
Jim said Phil put on size using insulin.
Then skip got all butthurt and said that jim doesnt know what hes talking about. Pretty much saying phil doesnt use insulin. Which we all know is a lie, and that phil does use insulin.
So try again Gene.
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massive G was always a real wannabe over on Mayhem for many years. ::)
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this is getting deep. when gh15 speaks you know it is ;)
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According to Gene, one of these guys in the pic below is going to die within a short period of time from steroid abuse and the other according to him is on HRT replacement therapy of 200 mg testosterone. Can you guess which one? The winner gets 10g's. That is, as soon as I get my money. >:(
Maybe Dante is secretly using Plazmosis? After all, King Kamali (under your guidance) was able to hold 300 lbs while taking nothing but the Magic Powder.
Disgusted = KING of snake oil.
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Come on guys... the bodybuilding world is already secluded and all on its own, do we really need to have so many internal fights and bullshit arguments!
I normally don't get involved in these "bodybuilding rivalries or beefs" but both you guys seem really cool and knowledgeable, I've never met either one of you in real life but I have read what you guys put out there! Can't you guys just put this shit aside and let bygones be bygones?
Seriously, is it really IMPOSSIBLE for both of you to just forget all this shit and start on a clean slate?
It seems like both of you had some sort of relationship at one point, why not just go back to that? Or at least drop all this back and forth smack talk and be civil! You guys are adults and have families and businesses, is all this talk really neccessary? I mean its one thing to sit there and bullshit over internet forums, but now there are talks of lawsuits and legal shit... Seriously its not worth it!
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Big Ach........I totally think that was a great post and I totally agree........I have known Dante since 93 personally and Jim for close to 5 yrs .[but more so casually on a business level .....he helped me and we chatted here and there .Although it's been a few yrs now since we last spoke.....he was cool to me ] I like both guys and have learned a ton from them both.
Dante and I were once pretty close .........and I really respect the man and know what he has been through to get to where he is today .He is top notch as person no doubt .Although he did hurt my feelings recently .....lol.....I will always have love for the guy.
And Jim .I don't know him nearly well. But the guy was always good to me . I learned alot from him .He helped my friend Stephanie Collins turn pro and I hired him to help my close friend grigori Attoyan almost turn pro [ he is a pro now] .Jim knows his stuff and never did me wrong .We lost touch ......but I still enoy his posts and respect his knowledge.
I hate seeing these two fight and I try to stay out of this because I like them both .But I hope they take big Ach 's advice ........there is no need to continue this . I have had the chance to know you both .......neither had bad mouthed the other to me.......I thought they both kinda liked each other at one time before all of this board war started surfacing. And yes Big Ach , both of these guys are cool in real life . I wish they could squash this or at least take their issues off line and handle it there . To see personal info and pics posted is beyond where this should of ever gone ......I know you both feel like the other crossed the line ........but come on fellas .....you both have businesses and are respected people in the game ..........enough is enough ......don't like each other ......or agree to disagree .....but move on from this .......lots of guys in sport look up to you both for your knowledge ......is this the example you want to set ? What ever happened between you is in the past .Either move forward or take it off line and fight it out. I just hate to see great guys keep this kind thing going . It is ugly and doesn't represent you well on either side .
I hope you both take my post out of concern and respect only .........I know lots of people love this drama . And love to see this get ugly and even egg it on. i just not happen to be one of them ............take care fellas ......i really hope my post makes sense and is seen for what it is ......
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great post
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FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
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Who gives a fuck, why do people visit multiple boards and get all involved in this bullshit.
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I think both DC and Jim are stand out guys. I know gh15 has argue with DC about lying regarding drugs but I remember DC Cycle for Pennies thread on Animal's board years ago and recommended 1-2 grams of test and advised just staying with the basics in pretty high dosages when you just want to grow. Save the exotic expensive stuff when you get to high level competition. Seemed pretty honest and up front to me. Also, I remember gh15 mentioning that DC makes good high quality protein products that he, along with other pros, use.
BTW, LOL at DC using 7-10 grams of test a week. Minimum 30 mls/wk you have to inject. Where do people come up with that?
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I think both DC and Jim are stand out guys. I know gh15 has argue with DC about lying regarding drugs but I remember DC Cycle for Pennies thread on Animal's board years ago and recommended 1-2 grams of test and advised just staying with the basics in pretty high dosages when you just want to grow. Save the exotic expensive stuff when you get to high level competition. Seemed pretty honest and up front to me. Also, I remember gh15 mentioning that DC makes good high quality protein products that he, along with other pros, use.
BTW, LOL at DC using 7-10 grams of test a week. Minimum 30 mls/wk you have to inject. Where do people come up with that?
You're a good guy pellius, but a bit naive on this subject.
1-2 grams of test a week is for beginners dude.
I have known 20+ guys who admit to using over 3g's of test for "years" at a time. Shit I've used 3g's a week of "combined" AAS and i was never a monster.
Take anything with a grain of salt my friend, remember DC has a business to run. His products are good, but he is making false claims to push his products.
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Yesterday a boy I know started a course based around 3grams of test a week
I'll let you know how he gets on
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Leave me out of this. Yes, my pants should be in the laundry, but my shirt was taken DIRECTLY out of the dryer. And it was in the washing machine before that!
Have some cashews after taking a fresh shirt out of the dryer..It makes for a perfect day
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Hey J. Thanks for the kind words, it means a lot. Hope all is going good. :)
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You're a good guy pellius, but a bit naive on this subject.
1-2 grams of test a week is for beginners dude.
I have known 20+ guys who admit to using over 3g's of test for "years" at a time. Shit I've used 3g's a week of "combined" AAS and i was never a monster.
Take anything with a grain of salt my friend, remember DC has a business to run. His products are good, but he is making false claims to push his products.
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You may be right, but 7-10 grams test alone? Seems insane. I'm assuming that if someone is at that level they are also using other anabolic as well. So imagine it was a two to one ration test to other anabolics which is pretty common. Now you're talking another 5 grams of deca or eq.
Also, when you said you used 3 grams what kind of test did you use? I think gh15 has a point about UG gear. I had a friend who use to home brew and got his raws from China. Because it was dirt cheap (which is the main reason he home brewed) he would routinely run 2g test and 1g of other anabolics in additon to orals. When his supply dried up after ORD and he started using HG he said he got way more gains running 750 testoviron, Norma deca and anabol.
Dante never made any claims to be a competitive bodybuilder nor expressed any desire to. I do subscribe to his basic training principles of intensity and progression. And as far as what he believes is a serious bodybuilder's protein requirements, he was preaching this before he has his True Protein business. It's almost like he started the business to help him meet his own protein requirements much like a juicer because a dealer for the easy access and "whole sale" prices.
I don't know, DC always struck as an honorable man and someone who, if he is your friend, has your back and will be there through thick and thin. Jim seems stand up as well.
But you're right, what do I know? I've never really been in the thick of things and don't know either personally.
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Have some cashews after taking a fresh shirt out of the dryer..It makes for a perfect day
LOL! So true!
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Leave me out of this. Yes, my pants should be in the laundry, but my shirt was taken DIRECTLY out of the dryer. And it was in the washing machine before that!
and the gh15 legend continues..