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I was doing HIIT trainiing for cardio but Im still too heavy and its murdering my joints. I am switching to a fast (4.0 mph) walk on a slight incline on the treadmill. Now based on the fact my main interest is losing weight (have to be 237 by Sept 23 MULTIPLE $ weight loss bets (262 today)), and can go morning, afternoon, evening, whenever. How often do you think I should go and for what length of time sessions? Also here is what I eat
Meal 1 12 egss whites 2 yolks
Meal 2 8oz chicken with green beans
Meal 3 50g whey with 2 tablespoons all natural peanutbutter
Meal 4 8oz salmon with 1 cup asparagus
this is a shake that I miss sometimes
Meal 6 8oz chicken with some green veggy
Meal 7 50 grams whey in water
Now an unmentioned high profile name is doing my diet and everything (not Palumbo he doesnt give a shit) so what he says I will follow to a T, but I am ultra curious what cardio suggestions people have as this person is mainly with me for my eating plan
Thanks
ps--today is cheat meal day--weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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just do whatever type of cardio u can, it doesnt matter bro.
With the type of diet you're doing, you probably dont want to be doing too intense of cardio, but you have a good amount of fat on you, so i wouldnt worry too much bout that. Just get your heart rate up and keep it up for an extended period of time, thats all that matters.
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Fast walking save your joints. Dorian did this actvity as well.
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Fast walking save your joints. Dorian did this actvity as well.
shoulda seen my cheat meal---o brother it was epic
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thats way more meals and way more protein than you need. disturbia you could cut down nicely on three meals a day, 50 grams protein in each meal. you can eat some carbs too ya know! they arent the enemy. they may slow down fat loss a tad, but with the benefit of retaining more muscle. and you dont need to do alot of carbs, just take in 20-30 grams of carbs, like a banana, before and after your workout. thats all you need.
a nice sample diet for disturbia:
breakfast: 2 cups egg whites 1 yolk and veggies
lunch: 10 ounce chicken breast and veggies.
_____pre training : banana
_____post training: banana
dinner: 10 ounces steak and veggies + fish oil
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shoulda seen my cheat meal---o brother it was epic
Tell us about it dawg.
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Try some rope skipping moth'fucka
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thats way more meals and way more protein than you need. disturbia you could cut down nicely on three meals a day, 50 grams protein in each meal. you can eat some carbs too ya know! they arent the enemy. they may slow down fat loss a tad, but with the benefit of retaining more muscle. and you dont need to do alot of carbs, just take in 20-30 grams of carbs, like a banana, before and after your workout. thats all you need.
a nice sample diet for disturbia:
breakfast: 2 cups egg whites 1 yolk and veggies
lunch: 10 ounce chicken breast and veggies.
_____pre training : banana
_____post training: banana
dinner: 10 ounces steak and veggies + fish oil
I would never ever go off course from what the guy who is telling what to do says, he is just wayyyyyy to proven
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I would never ever go off course from what the guy who is telling what to do says, he is just wayyyyyy to proven
you eating too much. only a guy like jay, kai, and victor need to eat that many meals and that much protein. all that is going to do is slow your fat loss down. beyond 1 gram per pound lean body weight is excessive.
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Disturbia, I hope your taking some Glucosamine & Chondroitin. Should help with any joint issues. As much cardio as I do, thus far no problems what so ever.
Your diet, seems like alot of food but if your dropping weight and shit then do with what works for you. Just remember, the more weight you loose ya gotta lighten up on calories
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I would never ever go off course from what the guy who is telling what to do says, he is just wayyyyyy to proven
as long as u dont go off course you'll be alright bro.
im looking forward to seeing the finished product.
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When prepping for a show i usually start at 30 mins and increasing a little every few weeks until I'm at 1 hour! Around 5-6 days a week! I know there is a lot of talk against this, but I've usually done this first thing in the morning on an empty stomach!
I also do 15-20 mins HITT cardio in the evening after my work out usually like 2-3 times a week sometimes 4, depending how much I need to drop.... which usually is a lot!
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I was doing HIIT trainiing for cardio but Im still too heavy and its murdering my joints. I am switching to a fast (4.0 mph) walk on a slight incline on the treadmill. Now based on the fact my main interest is losing weight (have to be 237 by Sept 23 MULTIPLE $ weight loss bets (262 today)), and can go morning, afternoon, evening, whenever. How often do you think I should go and for what length of time sessions? Also here is what I eat
Meal 1 12 egss whites 2 yolks
Meal 2 8oz chicken with green beans
Meal 3 50g whey with 2 tablespoons all natural peanutbutter
Meal 4 8oz salmon with 1 cup asparagus
this is a shake that I miss sometimes
Meal 6 8oz chicken with some green veggy
Meal 7 50 grams whey in water
Now an unmentioned high profile name is doing my diet and everything (not Palumbo he doesnt give a shit) so what he says I will follow to a T, but I am ultra curious what cardio suggestions people have as this person is mainly with me for my eating plan
Thanks
ps--today is cheat meal day--weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Fast walking on a decent incline is the way to go. Try doing 30 min first thing in the morning at 10% or higher and 3.5 - 4 mph. Addf 20-30 min 2-3 times per week AFTER lifting. Good luck
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Drop the 2 tbsps of 'all natural peanut butter.' That's just silly unless you're queer for peanut butter or something. Add a little olive oil or butter IN MODERATION to the veg or a swig of fish oil to each meal instead.
I'd drop shakes off the menu too. You want food volume - a full belly. Liquids won't do that. Veggies and beans are great for volume vs caloric density.
Don't tie yourself to the same diet day after day. "Eat real food, not too much, mostly plants."
Do low impact cardio. Cycling, rowing, swimming, stepper. Quit pounding that treadmill. Walking is fine.
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you eating too much. only a guy like jay, kai, and victor need to eat that many meals and that much protein. all that is going to do is slow your fat loss down. beyond 1 gram per pound lean body weight is excessive.
x2. thats an excessive amount of meals. you'd have to be on a slew of drugs to get full benefit of that diet.
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Try some rope skipping
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I agree. I do 25-30 minutes after my workout everyday.
I don't get a good enough sweat from the usual; bike, elliptical or treadmill.
Im trying to get back in shape for muay thai and skipping works best. make sure you have good music and get in the zone. [no homo on the zone thing, just can't have any distractions]
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Drop the 2 tbsps of 'all natural peanut butter.' That's just silly unless you're queer for peanut butter or something. Add a little olive oil or butter IN MODERATION to the veg or a swig of fish oil to each meal instead.
I'd drop shakes off the menu too. You want food volume - a full belly. Liquids won't do that. Veggies and beans are great for volume vs caloric density.
Don't tie yourself to the same diet day after day. "Eat real food, not too much, mostly plants."
Do low impact cardio. Cycling, rowing, swimming, stepper. Quit pounding that treadmill. Walking is fine.
Too many veggies and beansd may get him leaner but egads Batman the gas he will blow out his ass will keep any babe away from him for miles. He would be better off at his present wt and less stinky hehe
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Too many veggies and beansd may get him leaner but egads Batman the gas he will blow out his ass will keep any babe away from him for miles. He would be better off at his present wt and less stinky hehe
There may be a transition period of a couple days while his stomach adjusts to it. :D No troll. I eat a lot of beans and veg when dieting and really don't get a gas problem.
For sheer stinkiness tho, nothing beats protein farts.
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im telling you, too much protein. its only going to slow down your fat loss. you may have, at the most, 160-170lbs of lean mass. your eating, what, 300-350grams of protein? thats almost double what you need. all that extra protein is going to do is "get in the way" of fat burning.
also, if your eating that little carbs on a daily basis your going to experience a metabolic slow down pretty quickly. youd be much better off lowering your protein so that your burning off as much fat as possible on your low carb days, and then incorporate more frequent "carb up" days. not just a "cheat meal". those are good for mental sanity, but overeating fats doesnt do shit for your muscles or your metabolism. you need carbs, not junk food, in order to boost metabolism, fill up your muscles, and keep strength up.
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im telling you, too much protein. its only going to slow down your fat loss. you may have, at the most, 160-170lbs of lean mass. your eating, what, 300-350grams of protein? thats almost double what you need. all that extra protein is going to do is "get in the way" of fat burning.
also, if your eating that little carbs on a daily basis your going to experience a metabolic slow down pretty quickly. youd be much better off lowering your protein so that your burning off as much fat as possible on your low carb days, and then incorporate more frequent "carb up" days. not just a "cheat meal". those are good for mental sanity, but overeating fats doesnt do shit for your muscles or your metabolism. you need carbs, not junk food, in order to boost metabolism, fill up your muscles, and keep strength up.
but isnt protein going to retain muscle mass? so its needed in a diet..
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but isnt protein going to retain muscle mass? so its needed in a diet..
absolutely. 1 gram per lb lean body mass for optimal growth and recovery. disturbias got maybe, maximum, 170lbs lean mass. and thats being generous. he's eating more than double what he needs to eat to sustain his muscle and recover from his workouts.
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absolutely. 1 gram per lb lean body mass for optimal growth and recovery. disturbias got maybe, maximum, 170lbs lean mass. and thats being generous. he's eating more than double what he needs to eat to sustain his muscle and recover from his workouts.
how do i figure out my LBM? im 200 right now, not "lean" though.
aceto suggests 1.5 PER POUND of WEIGHT (or lbm?correct me if im wrong)
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im telling you, too much protein. its only going to slow down your fat loss. you may have, at the most, 160-170lbs of lean mass. your eating, what, 300-350grams of protein? thats almost double what you need. all that extra protein is going to do is "get in the way" of fat burning.
also, if your eating that little carbs on a daily basis your going to experience a metabolic slow down pretty quickly. youd be much better off lowering your protein so that your burning off as much fat as possible on your low carb days, and then incorporate more frequent "carb up" days. not just a "cheat meal". those are good for mental sanity, but overeating fats doesnt do shit for your muscles or your metabolism. you need carbs, not junk food, in order to boost metabolism, fill up your muscles, and keep strength up.
Hmm, got to disagree here - firstly, he's not eating 300-350 grams of protein in that diet - more like 250.
I don't think he's taking in too much either - even during weight loss fat loss you should be taking in 1.5 grams per pound of bodyweight (not lean bodyweight) to maintain muscle whilst dropping carbs and doing cardio to initiate fat reduction.
My first thought when I looked at his diet was that it probably wasn't enough - but then we're all different - I would starve on that.
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here tbombz, heres whos doing my stuff---Disgusted thats who--you are trying to say you know more than him
get a fucking grip junior, he's on another planet light years ahead of you
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here tbombz, heres whos doing my stuff---Disgusted gh15 thats who--you are trying to say you know more than him
get a fucking grip junior, he's on another planet light years ahead of you
fixed
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1 gram per pound of lean body weight. and that is more than enough. actually, its 2 grams per kilogram, which is slightly less than 1 gram per pound. ;) you will never find any science or studies to back up a protein intake higher than that. you will find some "gurus" who think more is better, but the body doesnt work that way, not even on massive amounts of juice3 and training like a savage. moreover, when dieting the goal is to eat as little as possible to sustain mass while losing bodyfat as quickly as possible. yoru not trying to be anabolic, your just trying to avoid catabolism.
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1 gram per pound of lean body weight. and that is more than enough. actually, its 2 grams per kilogram, which is slightly less than 1 gram per pound. ;) you will never find any science or studies to back up a protein intake higher than that. you will find some "gurus" who think more is better, but the body doesnt work that way, not even on massive amounts of juice3 and training like a savage. moreover, when dieting the goal is to eat as little as possible to sustain mass while losing bodyfat as quickly as possible. yoru not trying to be anabolic, your just trying to avoid catabolism.
translation:
Disgusted > you
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translation:
Disgusted > you
if you think you need 7 meals per day your delusional. you havent worked out seriously in years and youve got zero muscle. dieted down you will be 160-170 tops, with lots of loose skin ;D. only dudes with 220lbs+ lean mass need to eat like that. your just wasting food, money, and time by eating that many meals and that much protein. trust me
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I was doing HIIT trainiing for cardio but Im still too heavy and its murdering my joints. I am switching to a fast (4.0 mph) walk on a slight incline on the treadmill. Now based on the fact my main interest is losing weight (have to be 237 by Sept 23 MULTIPLE $ weight loss bets (262 today)), and can go morning, afternoon, evening, whenever. How often do you think I should go and for what length of time sessions? Also here is what I eat
brother, i would say stay with the slow steady cardio (for now) THEN switch back to hit
btw, seriously, good luck on your goals- we are all pulling for you
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if you think you need 7 meals per day your delusional. you havent worked out seriously in years and youve got zero muscle. dieted down you will be 160-170 tops, with lots of loose skin ;D. only dudes with 220lbs+ lean mass need to eat like that. your just wasting food, money, and time by eating that many meals and that much protein. trust me
bombz, u know i love u bro, but gh15 disgusted, has been doing this for a long long time.
disturbia is in good hands, he'll be just fine!
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bombz, u know i love u bro, but gh15 disgusted, has been doing this for a long long time.
disturbia is in good hands, he'll be just fine!
if you think disturbia needs that much food, your delusional too! ;D
hell get lean on that diet, but its far from optimal.
anyways, ive got to go do some lifting. peace bitch 8)
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if you think disturbia needs that much food, your delusional too! ;D
hell get lean on that diet, but its far from optimal.
anyways, ive got to go do some lifting. peace bitch 8)
haha, have a good workout bro.
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i agree with candy 100% on the protein issue.
disgusted is light years away alright, light years behind the science.
however candy wtf regarding a banana pre/post workout ???
were you joking ?
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if you think you need 7 meals per day your delusional. you havent worked out seriously in years and youve got zero muscle. dieted down you will be 160-170 tops, with lots of loose skin ;D. only dudes with 220lbs+ lean mass need to eat like that. your just wasting food, money, and time by eating that many meals and that much protein. trust me
in no way shape or form can I be 160 pounds, I would literally be dead.
zero muscle hey? zero muscle on a human. ya, you make sense ::)
however I can totally see why you would lean to siding with Goodrum, because facts are facts, you have both taken it in the ass, which must be some kind of bond
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in no way shape or form can I be 160 pounds, I would literally be dead.
zero muscle hey? zero muscle on a human. ya, you make sense ::)
however I can totally see why you would lean to siding with Goodrum, because facts are facts, you have both taken it in the ass, which must be some kind of bond
josh, don't get paranoid.
candy has given you good advice - apart from the banana thing :-\
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in no way shape or form can I be 160 pounds, I would literally be dead.
zero muscle hey? zero muscle on a human. ya, you make sense ::)
however I can totally see why you would lean to siding with Goodrum, because facts are facts, you have both taken it in the ass, which must be some kind of bond
Ha! ;D
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josh, don't get paranoid.
candy has given you good advice - apart from the banana thing :-\
ya Im sure its ok, but I have disgusted doing my thing and I have confidence in him
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Lol@all the people trying to tell Josh how to diet, when he has a guy that gets guys in shape for a living doing his diet. Epic lolz.
Where is you guys National winning conditioning? Where is your olympia caliber conditioning? Where is the guys paying you to do there diets? Everyone is quick to say "well this is what science says your body is gonna do", then why do you have nothing to show for all your "knowledge"? Sometimes what science says, isnt exactly how shit works in the real world.
Just like Im finding out at school where we build race engines. What works flies in the face of science a lot of the time. Physicists say that wont work, all you need is this, but the fact is that the human body is a very complex mechanism that people dont fully understand, just like the internal combustion engine. To think you know more than the guys that do it for a living cause science says so, is absolutley absurd.
Bombz I really like most of your advice, but the fact is that its like you arguing how to build a race engine with a guy that builds NASCAR motors, and you just finished rebuilding your 1st small block chevy in your pickup truck. :-\
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Tbomz is correct. That is WAY too much food for a natural over 40 who's trying to lose a lot of weight.
WAY too much food. And disturbia, I'm seriously wishing you the best of luck in this.
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that diet shows exactly how jim is behind the times.
its the typical keto type that he's been using since he first read about it.
however the lack of carbs may not be ideal for josh as he's a manic depressive/ bipolar.
the lack of seratonin producing carbs will not do much to help improve his moods.
if josh manages to stick to through, he will have to overcome his moods, his cravings, and his very biological demand for carbs. this will require a tremendous feat of will power from josh.
i would suggest a better approach would be for josh to go down my own route ( that he knows about from my pm) but basically it is what adonis and wavelength have been advocating here for a long time.
the science backs it as being just as effective as the keto diet, easier to stick too, and perhaps biologically more suitable for someone in josh's situation.
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Why are you guys trying to get him to change? The worst thing he can do now is start changing things around.
Hes goin with someone who is proven to get the man in shape... let him do it. If he isnt happy or something, next time he can try something different.
You guys are like a bunch of women constantly trying to get their friend to break up with their BF and date this guy they know, cause hes "perfect" for them (the friend).
Josh has already said hes not interested in your guys diet advice, hes set on Disgusted's diet. And I dont blame him. Even if hes behind the times, hes proven he can get people into shape.
None of you can say the same.
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Why are you guys trying to get him to change? The worst thing he can do now is start changing things around.
Hes goin with someone who is proven to get the man in shape... let him do it. If he isnt happy or something, next time he can try something different.
You guys are like a bunch of women constantly trying to get their friend to break up with their BF and date this guy they know, cause hes "perfect" for them (the friend).
Josh has already said hes not interested in your guys diet advice, hes set on Disgusted's diet. And I dont blame him. Even if hes behind the times, hes proven he can get people into shape.
None of you can say the same.
::) i have told josh to stick to jims diet via pm, i was simply making some observations, and giving some advice based on science.
if he feels bad etc then i think he should change, untill then good luck to him.
god the way you jump to conclussions is just like a woman jumping down ......... oh wait never mind ::)
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interestingly the thread was started about cardio
I will follow what Disgusted says, so it truly doesnt matter what anyone else says in the thread
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that diet shows exactly how jim is behind the times.
i would suggest a better approach would be for josh to go down my own route ( that he knows about from my pm) but basically it is what adonis and wavelength have been advocating here for a long time.
Yup. Really jumped to conclusions since you posted multiple times how you think he should change to your diet.
Totally jumped to conclusions. Yup. ::)
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Yup. Really jumped to conclusions since you posted multiple times how you think he should change to your diet.
Totally jumped to conclusions. Yup. ::)
i suggested my own type of diet may be better, if/and/or when jims gets too much/effects him in ways he is not expecting.
no need to get upset about this princess.
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i suggested my own type of diet may be better, if/and/or when jims gets too much/effects him in ways he is not expecting.
no need to get upset about this princess.
Lol.
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interestingly the thread was started about cardio
I will follow what Disgusted says, so it truly doesnt matter what anyone else says in the thread
Screw these numbnuts and stick to your plan. Good luck
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just out of absolute pure curiousity, with everyone having an opinion on the diet thing,....
what is the Calorie Number you would have me on daily
assuming 1 hour a day cardio 6/week and weights 4-5 times a week
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just out of absolute pure curiousity, with everyone having an opinion on the diet thing,....
what is the Calorie Number you would have me on daily
assuming 1 hour a day cardio 6/week and weights 4-5 times a week
Is that shaving cream or toothpaste on your forehead?
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Is that shaving cream or toothpaste on your forehead?
shaving cream ;D
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shaving cream ;D
haha ;D
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in no way shape or form can I be 160 pounds, I would literally be dead.
this just shows how delusional you are. have you seen the leafy bug thread? dudes 180 lbs at 5'11''. do you honestly think you have anywhere near as much muscle as he does ? your goign to end up around 160-165 if you diet away all of your fat and get down to visible abs.
zero muscle hey? zero muscle on a human. ya, you make sense ::)
however I can totally see why you would lean to siding with Goodrum, because facts are facts, you have both taken it in the ass, which must be some kind of bond
actually, i hope you get in shape! im only trying to help you get faster results. your eating more protein than you need to, and too many meals. its going to slow down your fat loss. why suffer a no carb and low fat diet if your going to slow down fat loss by overeating protein? doesnt make any sense dude. just trying to help.. didnt even have your stupid bet with goodrum in my head. :)
Tbomz is correct. That is WAY too much food for a natural over 40 who's trying to lose a lot of weight.
WAY too much food. And disturbia, I'm seriously wishing you the best of luck in this.
qft, same here..
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just out of absolute pure curiousity, with everyone having an opinion on the diet thing,....
what is the Calorie Number you would have me on daily
assuming 1 hour a day cardio 6/week and weights 4-5 times a week
2500 a day avg but cycle that to prevent burn out. You are trying to get leaner! You need to move the numbers on the scale and simply preserve muscle. HAVE , 5 meals a day with around 500 cals each, good quality protein and complex carbs with low fat.
The more complicated it becomes the less likely you are to stay with it for the next 100 plus days . Good luck :)
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bananas candy bananas ???
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actually, i hope you get in shape! im only trying to help you get faster results. your eating more protein than you need to, and too many meals. its going to slow down your fat loss. why suffer a no carb and low fat diet if your going to slow down fat loss by overeating protein? doesnt make any sense dude. just trying to help.. didnt even have your stupid bet with goodrum in my head. :)
qft, same here..
relax skippy Im not trying to get into bodybuilding show shape
geez take a vicodin,...........
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josh, i may be mistaken but isn't there a pic of you ripped and built from when you were younger ???
why don't you go back to doing what you did then - it obviously worked.
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relax skippy Im not trying to get into bodybuilding show shape
geez take a vicodin,...........
Even my senile old fart ass relized you were not going for an actual BB contest, just trying to get leaner and harder looking.
What did you think about my 2500 cal a day diet with 5 meals ?
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josh, i may be mistaken but isn't there a pic of you ripped and built from when you were younger ???
why don't you go back to doing what you did then - it obviously worked.
drugs then
no drugs now
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drugs then
no drugs now
aren't you full of drugs to control your moods ?
which drugs were you on then and why not now ?
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aren't you full of drugs to control your moods ?
which drugs were you on then and why not now ?
sorry
steroids I mean
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bananas candy bananas ???
maybe because of the ph-buffering effects of an all natural fruit, or because of the systemic benefits of replacing liver glycogen with the fructose, or maybe its the glucose content that bumps up insulin, depresses cortisol, increases vasodialation, and boosts muscle endurance.
or maybe its just because im a hippy child and think natures got the best stuff to offer.
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or maybe its just because im a hippy child and think natures got the best stuff to offer.
LOL, come on man........with all the chemicals you've taken? ;D
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maybe because of the ph-buffering effects of an all natural fruit, or because of the systemic benefits of replacing liver glycogen with the fructose, or maybe its the glucose content that bumps up insulin, depresses cortisol, increases vasodialation, and boosts muscle endurance.
or maybe its just because im a hippy child and think natures got the best stuff to offer.
hahahahaha you high ?
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One Snickers bar and a can of vegetable beef soup a day will rip you up in a few days. It worked at Devils Island. The point is it's all calorie reduction.
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LOL, come on man........with all the chemicals you've taken? ;D
tesosterone is natural, so is weed, mushrooms, and most stuff i consume. :)
besides, just because i think that nature's food is the best and healthiest, which it is, doesnt mean that im a super strict health nut and eat only the most healthy things and treat my body as a temple. i do try to be as healthy as possible, but alot of times i like doing things that are unhealthy, even though i know it, just because to me its worth the trade-off.
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Josh, post a pic of yourself in your best shape back in the day. Im curious as to what kind of shape we can expect you in.
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Josh, post a pic of yourself in your best shape back in the day. Im curious as to what kind of shape we can expect you in.
I honestly just have clothed pics from my past, nothing showing my physique
ewwww that sounded gay
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I honestly just have clothed pics from my past, nothing showing my physique
ewwww that sounded gay
bench
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interestingly the thread was started about cardio
I will follow what Disgusted says, so it truly doesnt matter what anyone else says in the thread
Disgusted knows his shit for sure. What does he think you should do for cardio?
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thats way more meals and way more protein than you need. disturbia you could cut down nicely on three meals a day, 50 grams protein in each meal. you can eat some carbs too ya know! they arent the enemy. they may slow down fat loss a tad, but with the benefit of retaining more muscle. and you dont need to do alot of carbs, just take in 20-30 grams of carbs, like a banana, before and after your workout. thats all you need.
a nice sample diet for disturbia:
breakfast: 2 cups egg whites 1 yolk and veggies
lunch: 10 ounce chicken breast and veggies.
_____pre training : banana
_____post training: banana
dinner: 10 ounces steak and veggies + fish oil
x2
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bench
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
i enjoyed that waaaay more than i should have :P
thanks
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I honestly just have clothed pics from my past, nothing showing my physique
ewwww that sounded gay
Plazmosis ???
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I was doing HIIT trainiing for cardio but Im still too heavy and its murdering my joints. I am switching to a fast (4.0 mph) walk on a slight incline on the treadmill. Now based on the fact my main interest is losing weight (have to be 237 by Sept 23 MULTIPLE $ weight loss bets (262 today)), and can go morning, afternoon, evening, whenever. How often do you think I should go and for what length of time sessions? Also here is what I eat
Meal 1 12 egss whites 2 yolks
Meal 2 8oz chicken with green beans
Meal 3 50g whey with 2 tablespoons all natural peanutbutter
Meal 4 8oz salmon with 1 cup asparagus
this is a shake that I miss sometimes
Meal 6 8oz chicken with some green veggy
Meal 7 50 grams whey in water
Now an unmentioned high profile name is doing my diet and everything (not Palumbo he doesnt give a shit) so what he says I will follow to a T, but I am ultra curious what cardio suggestions people have as this person is mainly with me for my eating plan
Thanks
ps--today is cheat meal day--weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
He isn't that "high profile" as your diet looks like garbage.
What are you paying for that cookie cutter program?
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He isn't that "high profile" as your diet looks like garbage.
What are you paying for that cookie cutter program?
i personally wouldn't last a day on that diet.
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He isn't that "high profile" as your diet looks like garbage.
What are you paying for that cookie cutter program?
I wouldnt pay anyone anything for a diet---ever
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bench
wow.. instant boner.. ;D
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I wouldnt pay anyone anything for a diet---ever
In that case it looks like you got what you paid for! :D
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In that case it looks like you got what you paid for! :D
Im not saying the following in a demeaning way:
are you another one of those who talks but has no picture to back it up? I have no idea who you are so Im curioous
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Im not saying the following in a demeaning way:
are you another one of those who talks but has no picture to back it up? I have no idea who you are so Im curioous
How does me having a picture effect that awfull cookie cutter diet you are following? ???
No matter how I look that diet is absolutely awfull!
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How does me having a picture effect that awfull cookie cutter diet you are following? ???
No matter how I look that diet is absolutely awfull!
that statement speaks VOLUMES about you
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that statement speaks VOLUMES about you
Sounds like you are doubting your diet!
50g whey + peanutbutter! LOL! Some real genius went into the development of this "diet" lol/
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Sounds like you are doubting your diet!
50g whey + peanutbutter! LOL! Some real genius went into the development of this "diet" lol/
I have ZERO doubts about Disgusted and his method---I'd say he had more than proven himself
Why don't we just wait for 20 weeks down the road and see what happens
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I have ZERO doubts about Disgusted and his method---I'd say he had more than proven himself
Why don't we just wait for 20 weeks down the road and see what happens
i had to do a PT test at work today, and i thought of you.....there were guys out there throwing up, and falling down, and totally unable to finish......i said, "damn, disturbia isnt in that bad of shape! look at these fucking guys!!"
bench
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i had to do a PT test at work today, and i thought of you.....there were guys out there throwing up, and falling down, and totally unable to finish......i said, "damn, disturbia isnt in that bad of shape! look at these fucking guys!!"
bench
gayer than thinking of me at work :D
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gayer than thinking of me at work :D
i wasnt at work.....i read this thread....then went and did the PT test....so it was fresh on my mind...
seriously....we had to run a mile, then run into a 1/2 mile obstacle course in under 15 minutes.....then do a timed 1 minute sit up, and push up.....then we took a break and had to do a 300 meter sprint....
most of those piles of shit couldnt even finish the initial mile, and they started out walking!!!!
bench
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I was doing HIIT trainiing for cardio but Im still too heavy and its murdering my joints. I am switching to a fast (4.0 mph) walk on a slight incline on the treadmill. Now based on the fact my main interest is losing weight (have to be 237 by Sept 23 MULTIPLE $ weight loss bets (262 today)), and can go morning, afternoon, evening, whenever. How often do you think I should go and for what length of time sessions? Also here is what I eat
Meal 1 12 egss whites 2 yolks
Meal 2 8oz chicken with green beans
Meal 3 50g whey with 2 tablespoons all natural peanutbutter
Meal 4 8oz salmon with 1 cup asparagus
this is a shake that I miss sometimes
Meal 6 8oz chicken with some green veggy
Meal 7 50 grams whey in water
Now an unmentioned high profile name is doing my diet and everything (not Palumbo he doesnt give a shit) so what he says I will follow to a T, but I am ultra curious what cardio suggestions people have as this person is mainly with me for my eating plan
Thanks
ps--today is cheat meal day--weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Without AAS, what is the maximum amount of protein the body can absorb and use in a given time period? I've heard 40 g after a workout is about the most and the rest is excess, though I can't recall seeing any source for the information.
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Without AAS, what is the maximum amount of protein the body can absorb and use in a given time period? I've heard 40 g after a workout is about the most and the rest is excess, though I can't recall seeing any source for the information.
I think the post workout protein absorption questions have always been in regards to protein powder. Some guys will take a couple scoops of protein which is close to 60 grams when the body can only process/absorb close to 30-35 grams of whey at a time. I remember reading a while back although no source that you can take 50g or something similiar to that at a time of actual food. Chicken, Beef, Fish.
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I have ZERO doubts about Disgusted and his method---I'd say he had more than proven himself
Why don't we just wait for 20 weeks down the road and see what happens
Fair enough!
Are you on cycle or drug free?
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Fair enough!
Are you on cycle or drug free?
I am drug free and always will be due to the medication I take for my bipolar and borderline personality disorder
I worry about interaction if I took any type of steroid or drug to assist me
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I am drug free and always will be due to the medication I take for my bipolar and borderline personality disorder
I worry about interaction if I took any type of steroid or drug to assist me
How much weight have you dropped bro?
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Without AAS, what is the maximum amount of protein the body can absorb and use in a given time period? I've heard 40 g after a workout is about the most and the rest is excess, though I can't recall seeing any source for the information.
it appears to be only 20g.
i've made a post on this on the nutrition board - where i talk about studies that have found this out.
check it out.
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it appears to be only 20g.
i've made a post on this on the nutrition board - where i talk about studies that have found this out.
check it out.
yes, but there are also studies that prove the opposite.....in the end all they tell us is your body needs protein we just dont know how much...
anyone who has ever taken slin will laugh at the 20 gram study...
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How much weight have you dropped bro?
Ive dropped 15 pounds but I rebounded after my cheat meals, also I have no idea about this but would lifting weights again instead of just cardio counteract weight loss with the regaining of muscle? I have no clue about this stuff
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Ive dropped 15 pounds but I rebounded after my cheat meals, also I have no idea about this but would lifting weights again instead of just cardio counteract weight loss with the regaining of muscle? I have no clue about this stuff
lifting weights doesnt grow muscle.....the rest after lifting weights grows muscle........let your nervous system rest....and just do cardio...and dont double up on the weights...
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Ive dropped 15 pounds but I rebounded after my cheat meals, also I have no idea about this but would lifting weights again instead of just cardio counteract weight loss with the regaining of muscle? I have no clue about this stuff
Yes gaining muscle will result in weight gain due muscle weighing more than fat hence just weight per se on the scales doesnt tell the whole story. If your goal is pure weight loss not muscle gain then just do cardio and diet however muscle loss will occur it all depends on what you want to achieve. Maybe some light weight lifting to keep muscle tone would be the ticket plus the diet and cardio.
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Ive dropped 15 pounds but I rebounded after my cheat meals, also I have no idea about this but would lifting weights again instead of just cardio counteract weight loss with the regaining of muscle? I have no clue about this stuff
If anything, lifting will preserve more lean muscle as you diet. And the same number of calories can sustain more fat than muscle, so you'll probably end up lighter and looking better. See for instance: http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/47/1/19
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Ive dropped 15 pounds but I rebounded after my cheat meals, also I have no idea about this but would lifting weights again instead of just cardio counteract weight loss with the regaining of muscle? I have no clue about this stuff
couple thoughts here from my extensive experience of losing and gaining weight for yrs before getting it under control..
IMO you are too soon into your weight loss journey to be doing cheat meals. You shouldn't be longing for foods of yester year at this point because you just stopped eating them so recently. I think it will offset your progress more than help you at this point. I was about 6 weeks into my weight loss and doing great before I allowed cheat meals. The danger was just to high that not having formed the good habits, I would fall back into my old habits if I had them. So get some time, and some pounds off before considering them
Absolutley lift weights. You are not in a contest to lose the most weight on a scale in a given period of time. You are in a contest to look better than Goodrum. If you don't lift weights, you will lose muscle mass with the reduced calories you are probably consuming (going out on a ledge here considering the gaining weight on the cheat meals). Along with the cardio, the weight training will help you maintain and build some muscle while you lose body fat. For you, thats possible. Weight lifting itself burns calories and increases metabolism.
There are other fat burning things you can do athat incorporate both. For example, take a 45 lbs plate or Olympic bar and do clean and jerk type explosive movemements for al the reps you can do in a minute, rest 30 seconds and repeat about 10 times.
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Yes gaining muscle will result in weight gain due muscle weighing more than fat hence just weight per se on the scales doesnt tell the whole story. If your goal is pure weight loss not muscle gain then just do cardio and diet however muscle loss will occur it all depends on what you want to achieve. Maybe some light weight lifting to keep muscle tone would be the ticket plus the diet and cardio.
initially my goal was weight loss and weight loss only due to multiple weight loss bets I was in. But as time went on I said fuck the weight loss I want to have some muscle and look the best I possibly can. So I conceded the weight loss bets in exchange for doing this properly. And hopefully it will pay off.
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yes, but there are also studies that prove the opposite.....in the end all they tell us is your body needs protein we just dont know how much...
anyone who has ever taken slin will laugh at the 20 gram study...
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what exactly is the opposite of 20 g ? perhaps you could enlighten me ?
anyone who laughs at those studies are clowns - i bet you laughed didn't you ::)
they are very good well rounded studies - if you cannot see that you are indeed quite the fool.
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what exactly is the opposite of 20 g ? perhaps you could enlighten me ?
anyone who laughs at those studies are clowns - i bet you laughed didn't you ::)
they are very good well rounded studies - if you cannot see that you are indeed quite the fool.
if you couldn't understand my post perhaps you need to return to grade school for the basics......your words and body speaks volumes of your knowledge in this field....good day..
you can continue guessing the truth....and i can continue KNOWING the truth..
bench
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initially my goal was weight loss and weight loss only due to multiple weight loss bets I was in. But as time went on I said fuck the weight loss I want to have some muscle and look the best I possibly can. So I conceded the weight loss bets in exchange for doing this properly. And hopefully it will pay off.
Now THAT is one of thre most sensible ideas I ever heard on this board.
Good luck and look fwd to seeing your ripped in 132 days.
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Now THAT is one of thre most sensible ideas I ever heard on this board.
Good luck and look fwd to seeing your ripped in 132 days.
I will never be ripped--ever--especially drug free--I just want to look as good as I possibly can at the end of the 20 weeks.
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I will never be ripped--ever--especially drug free--I just want to look as good as I possibly can at the end of the 20 weeks.
Tone up a little and beef up on top...look more like a beast than he will...if your trying on getting cut, it aint going to happen where your at but your more muscular than the house neg ro and he can never get cut like you as well. in the end it doesnt matter, Mrs. Vissy always looks like a loser ..